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Posted: Apr 26, 2016 - 4:06am

Obamacare disaster will be Obama’s enduring domestic legacy






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Posted: Mar 26, 2016 - 6:23am

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Employers to drop millions from health care plans as Obamacare premiums spike, CBO projects

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/24/obamacare-coverage-costs-spike/?page=all#pagebreak

 

Strangely enough in respect to the deficit anyway, Clintons bitter pill is becoming more palatable to swallow:

 

 

An analysis by the Center for a Responsible Federal Budget, which crunched the numbers on the available plans of each of the five major presidential candidates still in the race, found only Ohio Gov. John Kasich, on the GOP side, would cut government spending, by about 2 percent.

 

Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton would oversee a 2 percent spending hike over the next decade, GOP front-runner Donald Trump would raise spending by 3 percent, Sen. Ted Cruz would boost it by 6 percent, and Sen. Bernard Sanders wants a massive 33 percent hike in government outlays.

 



No mention of the interest that will come due on Obama's debt and the 1 trillion that isn't budgeted yet but has to go into the nuclear triad?Maybe it'll just go away after the election.


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Posted: Mar 26, 2016 - 5:03am

Employers to drop millions from health care plans as Obamacare premiums spike, CBO projects

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/24/obamacare-coverage-costs-spike/?page=all#pagebreak

 

Strangely enough in respect to the deficit anyway, Clintons bitter pill is becoming more palatable to swallow:

 

 

An analysis by the Center for a Responsible Federal Budget, which crunched the numbers on the available plans of each of the five major presidential candidates still in the race, found only Ohio Gov. John Kasich, on the GOP side, would cut government spending, by about 2 percent.

 

Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton would oversee a 2 percent spending hike over the next decade, GOP front-runner Donald Trump would raise spending by 3 percent, Sen. Ted Cruz would boost it by 6 percent, and Sen. Bernard Sanders wants a massive 33 percent hike in government outlays.

 


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Posted: Mar 25, 2016 - 9:11am

A lot of conservative partisans will gloat when they see this, but I actually have a different take.  As someone who is not caught up in the partisan bullshit and realize most mainstream candidates are full of it, I am actually pleased to hear that Clinton is listening and has a plan to alleviate some of the atrocities of Obamacare and seeing how she is going to be our President whether we like it or not, this is indeed good news!

 

Chelsea Clinton: Obamacare Has Created 'Crushing Costs'

 

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/chelsea-clinton-hillary-clinton-obamacare-healthcare/2016/03/24/id/720798/

 

 


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Posted: Mar 16, 2016 - 4:00pm

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The idea that an insurance plan that pays for things, with an affordable deductible and a max OOP that has a survivable upper limit... that's derisively called a Cadillac plan... too good for the likes of us. So we should all be happy with a plan that doesn't begin to pay for anything until we've sold a car to meet the whopping deductible, and thanks to negotiated rates, really never pays a penny for anything under, say, $50K worth of broken bones.

 
  Ain't that the truth. Well said.
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Posted: Mar 16, 2016 - 8:39am

The idea that an insurance plan that pays for things, with an affordable deductible and a max OOP that has a survivable upper limit... that's derisively called a Cadillac plan... too good for the likes of us. So we should all be happy with a plan that doesn't begin to pay for anything until we've sold a car to meet the whopping deductible, and thanks to negotiated rates, really never pays a penny for anything under, say, $50K worth of broken bones.
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Posted: Mar 16, 2016 - 7:30am

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ObamaCare’s ‘Cadillac Tax’ Will Hit Chevy-Class Families Hardest, Study Finds

http://www.investors.com/politics/capital-hill/obamacares-cadillac-tax-will-hit-chevy-class-families-hardest-study-finds/

 

We could really use some health care reform, it is about to get even uglier for us middle class working families.{#Frown}



 
You didn't expect that to go well?
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Posted: Mar 16, 2016 - 6:52am

ObamaCare’s ‘Cadillac Tax’ Will Hit Chevy-Class Families Hardest, Study Finds

http://www.investors.com/politics/capital-hill/obamacares-cadillac-tax-will-hit-chevy-class-families-hardest-study-finds/

 

We could really use some health care reform, it is about to get even uglier for us middle class working families.{#Frown}


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Posted: Nov 21, 2015 - 7:15am

Well maybe this will force us all to finally implement some type of desperately needed health care reform:

UnitedHealth warns it may exit Obamacare plans



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Posted: Dec 8, 2014 - 9:45am

MIT's Gruber called to testify at D.C. Obamacare hearing

Gruber has collected as much as $6 million in taxpayer money for contracts with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Resources, the Department of State, the Department of Justice, the US National Institutes of Health and several states, including Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Vermont, which this week announced it was severing ties with the professor.
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Posted: Dec 8, 2014 - 9:37am


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Posted: Dec 8, 2014 - 6:11am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

I think what Kurt was saying, my belligerent friend, is that setting yourself as "against" other people here is ultimately a loser's game. Disagreeing with others here leaves open the possibility of actual dialog.

Nevertheless, kudos for using the "I'm a Rebel, Dottie" gambit so early in the game. If we gathered up all the people who claimed to be alone in this hostile environment but are determined to fight the good fight as long as the ammo holds out, we could invade some small island nation and take all their rum and cigars.

 

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Posted: Dec 6, 2014 - 11:33am

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It was noticeable enough that a lot of people other than myself noticed it. 

Despite the claims, we really don't mind dissent. We clearly enjoy a good, even heated, argument.  Don't play the victim though and own it when your wrong.  

I'll go first - I'll give you the benefit here and say Sorry. I hope I was wrong. It's been a long week for me and I'm easily agitated right now. We can start over at 0 if you like. It's up to you know to see which way we go with it.

 
So that I don't inadvertently bite the hand that feeds, let me make sure I understand. As long as I don't defy you and your bullying publicly, you will let me play?  Wait, that may seem unnecessarily antagonistic, huh?

Sorry. Really, really sorry.

Unless, of course (once again), wealth + privilege does not = class. But, I'm sure that doesn't apply here.

Oh, and of course I accept your humble, slightly qualified apology, and will consider us the bestest of friends. I just couldn't stand it if we couldn't be friends....

Hope you find some fun this weekend, and that your stresses are assuaged with some peace.

 
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Posted: Dec 6, 2014 - 11:05am

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OK, I'll bite. Like I never left?

Man, you are displaying a really aggressive attitude, and though you certainly seem to feel entitled to run roughshod on whomever, I'm not getting it. As I asked another member, please educate me, make this a teachable moment, tell me what I did (factually) that drew your ire....

That's reasonable, isn't it?

 
Okay, for the benefit of the doubt I'll give you 60 seconds here. Your style, tone, demeanor and even wording are very reminiscent of another member who came in, got all offended by the bad rabid liberals (band name!) around here, eventually got really belligerent and then threatening and was tossed out for bad behavior.

These two responses are not really the polite innocent intro you claim to have come in with before being rudely responded to
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Sorry, prof, I'll try not to raise my hand in class anymore.

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I'm sorry. I didn't mean to speak out of turn, sir. I will make no more comments today, OK prof? Gotta run.....

  

It was noticeable enough that a lot of people other than myself noticed it. 

Despite the claims, we really don't mind dissent. We clearly enjoy a good, even heated, argument.  Don't play the victim though and own it when your wrong.  

I'll go first - I'll give you the benefit here and say Sorry. I hope I was wrong. It's been a long week for me and I'm easily agitated right now. We can start over at 0 if you like. It's up to you know to see which way we go with it.
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Posted: Dec 6, 2014 - 10:31am

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No, welcome back. Really, it's like you never left.

 
OK, I'll bite. Like I never left?

Man, you are displaying a really aggressive attitude, and though you certainly seem to feel entitled to run roughshod on whomever, I'm not getting it. As I asked another member, please educate me, make this a teachable moment, tell me what I did (factually) that drew your ire....

That's reasonable, isn't it?
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Posted: Dec 6, 2014 - 10:20am

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"Et tu, Brute?"

Just kidding. If that's supposed to be me, its pretty funny. Thanks.

 

Actually no, I just like to post silly pics when discussions get heated to lighten the mood.{#Lol}
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Posted: Dec 6, 2014 - 10:03am

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"Et tu, Brute?"

Just kidding. If that's supposed to be me, its pretty funny. Thanks.
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Posted: Dec 6, 2014 - 7:52am


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Posted: Dec 6, 2014 - 5:12am

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Hmm. Lots for me to "grasp". Thank you for the feedback. So far, I'd say say self-moderation has been wildly successful! {#Liar}

 
Didn't say it works all that well or smoothly, just is what it is.
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Posted: Dec 5, 2014 - 7:02pm

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I truly and honestly bow to and acknowledge your superior experience, intellect, and knowledge of internet board games. Thank you. Welcome to Radio Paradise?

 
No, welcome back. Really, it's like you never left.
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