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kurtster
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Posted: Jul 30, 2014 - 5:09am

 BlueHeronDruid wrote:

Pick one and get the care you need NOW. Your foot isn't going to wait too long, right? You can always change next enrollment period.

 
FWIW, we have Anthem as a provider for several years now and are happy.  They do have people that will call you and follow up as well as you can ask them questions for concerns.

Its about who has the biggest network and doctors closest to you.  Anthem is a big national, which can be a good thing these days. And yes, you can always change the next enrollment period if it doesn't work as well as you hope.

 
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Posted: Jul 30, 2014 - 5:02am

 BlueHeronDruid wrote:

Pick one and get the care you need NOW. Your foot isn't going to wait too long, right? You can always change next enrollment period.

 
i agree

take some action there dude

chin sac up please
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Posted: Jul 29, 2014 - 10:11pm

 BlueHeronDruid wrote:

Pick one and get the care you need NOW. Your foot isn't going to wait too long, right? You can always change next enrollment period.

 
I'll call the county medical tomorrow and talk to someone. they have some people there just for that.
I know I saw a ratings guide and the one I wanted to pick has a big hand-made
sign on their building that says NO OBAMACARES ACCEPTED HERE!!! 
Is this red neck country or what? Once again, the autistic gets to scrape the
bottom of the barrel. 
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Posted: Jul 29, 2014 - 10:03pm

 Manbird wrote:
I have some kind of obamacare/medical and they gave me 3 choices of plans. One eas kaiser so I picked that one.
Then they call and said I couldn't pick kaiser unless I was already a member for at least a year. Now I have two to pick
from:California Health and Wellness or Anthem. How do I know which to pick> Jeez, what a runaround. I'm thinking about
keeping the guy I was seeing in Santa Rosa but he's so far. I have a feeling whatever I pick, it's going to be shit
quality care. 

 
Pick one and get the care you need NOW. Your foot isn't going to wait too long, right? You can always change next enrollment period.
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Posted: Jul 29, 2014 - 9:52pm

I have some kind of obamacare/medical and they gave me 3 choices of plans. One eas kaiser so I picked that one.
Then they call and said I couldn't pick kaiser unless I was already a member for at least a year. Now I have two to pick
from:California Health and Wellness or Anthem. How do I know which to pick> Jeez, what a runaround. I'm thinking about
keeping the guy I was seeing in Santa Rosa but he's so far. I have a feeling whatever I pick, it's going to be shit
quality care. 


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Posted: Jul 29, 2014 - 8:54pm

 kurtster wrote:

The VA did a lot to help keep my Dad going his last 10 or so years and he had Medicare with a damn good supplement.  But that wasn't enough.  The help he got from the VA especially with Rx medicines the folks couldn't have otherwise afforded made all the difference.

There is no panacea to our health care mess.  When it comes to quality health care, more choices and options are better.  Obamacare is the opposite fewer choices designed to meet all needs.  That is impossible, period end of story.  One size never fits all.  Will never come close and in medicine, close is no cigar.

Having said that, the VA is broken beyond repair.  It needs to be replaced, or at the very least all Vets should have the VA pay their bills in private facilities when the VA cannot provide them in a timely fashion or is simply not close enough for our veterans to easily reach.  This can be done right now, with the stroke of a President;s pen.  WTF is he waiting for ? 
Oh and welcome to the loony bin ...

  "Vets should have the VA pay their bills in private facilities when the VA cannot provide them in a timely fashion."  That Bill is becoming law as we speak. - 07-29-14


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Posted: Jul 27, 2014 - 10:07am

Keep spending/whining... {#Mrgreen}

Why Anti-Obamacare Ads Actually Increased Obamacare Enrollment
Opponents of the Affordable Care Act outspent Obamacare's proponents 15-to-one, but they might have been funding their rivals' cause.

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Posted: Jul 24, 2014 - 6:03pm

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The Koch Brothers Want To Scare The Obamacare Out Of You

What the heck? Have we no shame?

"Brawndo. It's got electrolytes."

 
Brawndo, its what George Soros has for breakfast !

Since yer new around here, every time you bring up the Koch bros there is an obligation to respond with a Soros reference.

Carry on ... 


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Posted: Jul 24, 2014 - 2:11pm

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Not surprising, sadly, that you were insured. The little graph I posted notes that it's usually the case (78%).
The ACA has faults, but the goal of eliminating these crap policies was an important, necessary, part of its implementation.

*shakes fist a ScottN's kidney, and the folks that crafted a crap insurance policy* 

Yes. I knew that.  The policy did pay a bit.  The policy's primary value was in getting me decent care w/minimum hassle.  The hospital saw I was insured and admitted me, though this was not an "ER" situation and they had no obligation to do so.  I had many chats with the acct'g folk at the hospital following treatment.   They said they are frequently blind-sided too by lousy insurance policies.  It was their *whispered* advice to file br when they became aware of my overall financial situation.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2014 - 1:34pm

 expertTexpert wrote:

Sorry to hear. And, sadly, you have plenty of company.

.... 
btw, I had insurance. Obviously it was very deficient.  A policy that would not be valid under ACA now.  My kidney timed it all wrong.

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Posted: Jul 24, 2014 - 1:26pm

 expertTexpert wrote:

That's an excellent point. The politics surrounding the "one term President" made it imperative that he not get any credit for any positive work. (Step one: he's not even from America!)
Identifying the obvious need for universal health care, for reform of the outrageous cost/care delivery problem that Americans face, and trying to make progress - it was doomed from the moment he espoused it.

Not because providing health care to all Americans is wrong. It's right for many many reasons.
But it was obstructed because of who he is. (Socialist! Liar! Egomaniac!)

The millions of uninsured Americans, or those that are poorly insured by scam companies, or those paying exorbitant sums that bankrupt them, or the people struggling through the VA system - all of those people are frustrated or ill or going to die young to make sure we have a one term President. Otherwise, our "leaders" could've compromised on something much more useful.

But, like they say in golf: play the ball from where it lies.
From where we are now, how can we protect our citizenry from illness and bankruptcy? Neither of those things seem good for our nation.
 
I declared a medical cost induced bankruptcy two weeks ago, so I know.  Hindsight certainly shows alternatives that would have been better, but were not thought feasible at the time.  Additionally, the ACA is tremendously complex (note recent court rulings).  We simply have to get  to UHC and that will take a new POTUS and Congress to do. 

"As if", say the lobbies.


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Posted: Jul 24, 2014 - 12:43pm

 sirdroseph wrote:
I agree, it is just too bad we have a President that not only did not push for that, but implemented a plan that continues to line the pockets of the for profit insurance companies and at the same time decreasing freedom even more by putting the burden on the middle and lower middle class forcing those that cannot afford insurance to enter into the poor coverage heath insurance debacle like the rest of us and maybe get reinbursed for it down the beaurocratic line as these families struggle to buy groceries because of their new "gift" premium. All implemented by our good trustworthy friends at the IRS.{#Rolleyes}  Why? All for his legacy so he can say he pushed through "affordable health care for everyone".  What a joke.
 
UHC was his first choice.  It was declared not doable by congressional leaders. The ACA was seen as the next best thing.  It has faults—everybody can see that, but imo, is better than what is in effect prior to its enactment.

Hilary Clinton tried for UHC back in '93/94 and got nowhere.  The HC and Big Pharma lobbies are too strong to allow government to shake their money trees.
I don't think Obama made a very good strategic move by accepting, as he did during his re-election, the moniker Obamacare.  Too many people detest him and it gets in the way of clear thinking and progress.  The ACA is/was intended to be a step to UHC.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2014 - 12:30pm

ObamaCare getaway: 5 US territories released from health care law


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Posted: Jul 24, 2014 - 4:03am

 ScottN wrote:

Yes, far, far, too sensible.  The people making billions off the current for-profit HC system in America will never allow it.  It's not "freedom" {#Doh}.

 

I agree, it is just too bad we have a President that not only did not push for that, but implemented a plan that continues to line the pockets of the for profit insurance companies and at the same time decreasing freedom even more by putting the burden on the middle and lower middle class forcing those that cannot afford insurance to enter into the poor coverage heath insurance debacle like the rest of us and maybe get reinbursed for it down the beaurocratic line as these families struggle to buy groceries because of their new "gift" premium. All implemented by our good trustworthy friends at the IRS.{#Rolleyes}  Why? All for his legacy so he can say he pushed through "affordable health care for everyone".  What a joke.


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Posted: Jul 23, 2014 - 6:28pm

 expertTexpert wrote:

If we insure everyone in our nation, then the VA as a general health care system is irrelevant except for satellite government clinics that deal with their specific battle-related issues.
Otherwise, our vets' general healthcare is covered by other private companies and we don't need the government-run hospitals and the costs/inefficiency that accompany. Our obligation to our servicemen/women would be to cover their insurance costs, not provide structures and staff that are less efficient than other systems that exist.

The hard part: we need to have the general health care infrastructure that can care for so many new insured. Part of that can be the re-definition of what the county hospitals do. You don't need those any more if everyone has insurance. Absorb their infrastructure into existing health care systems (Blue Cross, etc) when possible to make sure we have the facilities and people. They're just not paid by the state tax dollars any more.

 
The VA did a lot to help keep my Dad going his last 10 or so years and he had Medicare with a damn good supplement.  But that wasn't enough.  The help he got from the VA especially with Rx medicines the folks couldn't have otherwise afforded made all the difference.

There is no panacea to our health care mess.  When it comes to quality health care, more choices and options are better.  Obamacare is the opposite fewer choices designed to meet all needs.  That is impossible, period end of story.  One size never fits all.  Will never come close and in medicine, close is no cigar.

Having said that, the VA is broken beyond repair.  It needs to be replaced, or at the very least all Vets should have the VA pay their bills in private facilities when the VA cannot provide them in a timely fashion or is simply not close enough for our veterans to easily reach.  This can be done right now, with the stroke of a President;s pen.  WTF is he waiting for ? 
Oh and welcome to the loony bin ...
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Posted: Jul 23, 2014 - 4:28pm

Statistics released today:
From  beginning of enrollment in October 2013 through April 2014, the number of uninsured in America decreased from 21 percent to 16 percent. 10.3 million went from previously uninsured to insured. 
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Posted: Jul 23, 2014 - 3:25pm

 cc_rider wrote:

That cannot possibly work.

 
just keep backing up those truckloads of borrowed money

and it'll all work out

{#Wink}

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Posted: Jul 23, 2014 - 3:18pm

 MrsHobieJoe wrote:
 DaveInVA wrote: 
This one is solvable........state provided health care coverage for all citizens.  Then there won't be fraud as you'll all be entitled to the same care.
 

What will happen to the layers and layers of bureaucracy?  {#Wink}
 


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Posted: Jul 23, 2014 - 3:18pm

 MrsHobieJoe wrote:
 DaveInVA wrote: 
This one is solvable........state provided health care coverage for all citizens.  Then there won't be fraud as you'll all be entitled to the same care.
 
Yes, far, far, too sensible.  The people making billions off the current for-profit HC system in America will never allow it.  It's not "freedom" {#Doh}.
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Posted: Jul 23, 2014 - 3:15pm

 MrsHobieJoe wrote:
 DaveInVA wrote: 
This one is solvable........state provided health care coverage for all citizens.  Then there won't be fraud as you'll all be entitled to the same care.
 
That cannot possibly work.
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