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Posted: Dec 8, 2014 - 6:11am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

I think what Kurt was saying, my belligerent friend, is that setting yourself as "against" other people here is ultimately a loser's game. Disagreeing with others here leaves open the possibility of actual dialog.

Nevertheless, kudos for using the "I'm a Rebel, Dottie" gambit so early in the game. If we gathered up all the people who claimed to be alone in this hostile environment but are determined to fight the good fight as long as the ammo holds out, we could invade some small island nation and take all their rum and cigars.

 

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Posted: Dec 6, 2014 - 11:33am

 islander wrote:
 

It was noticeable enough that a lot of people other than myself noticed it. 

Despite the claims, we really don't mind dissent. We clearly enjoy a good, even heated, argument.  Don't play the victim though and own it when your wrong.  

I'll go first - I'll give you the benefit here and say Sorry. I hope I was wrong. It's been a long week for me and I'm easily agitated right now. We can start over at 0 if you like. It's up to you know to see which way we go with it.

 
So that I don't inadvertently bite the hand that feeds, let me make sure I understand. As long as I don't defy you and your bullying publicly, you will let me play?  Wait, that may seem unnecessarily antagonistic, huh?

Sorry. Really, really sorry.

Unless, of course (once again), wealth + privilege does not = class. But, I'm sure that doesn't apply here.

Oh, and of course I accept your humble, slightly qualified apology, and will consider us the bestest of friends. I just couldn't stand it if we couldn't be friends....

Hope you find some fun this weekend, and that your stresses are assuaged with some peace.

 
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Posted: Dec 6, 2014 - 11:05am

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OK, I'll bite. Like I never left?

Man, you are displaying a really aggressive attitude, and though you certainly seem to feel entitled to run roughshod on whomever, I'm not getting it. As I asked another member, please educate me, make this a teachable moment, tell me what I did (factually) that drew your ire....

That's reasonable, isn't it?

 
Okay, for the benefit of the doubt I'll give you 60 seconds here. Your style, tone, demeanor and even wording are very reminiscent of another member who came in, got all offended by the bad rabid liberals (band name!) around here, eventually got really belligerent and then threatening and was tossed out for bad behavior.

These two responses are not really the polite innocent intro you claim to have come in with before being rudely responded to
porphyrius wrote:

Sorry, prof, I'll try not to raise my hand in class anymore.

  porphyrius wrote:

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to speak out of turn, sir. I will make no more comments today, OK prof? Gotta run.....

  

It was noticeable enough that a lot of people other than myself noticed it. 

Despite the claims, we really don't mind dissent. We clearly enjoy a good, even heated, argument.  Don't play the victim though and own it when your wrong.  

I'll go first - I'll give you the benefit here and say Sorry. I hope I was wrong. It's been a long week for me and I'm easily agitated right now. We can start over at 0 if you like. It's up to you know to see which way we go with it.
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Posted: Dec 6, 2014 - 10:31am

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No, welcome back. Really, it's like you never left.

 
OK, I'll bite. Like I never left?

Man, you are displaying a really aggressive attitude, and though you certainly seem to feel entitled to run roughshod on whomever, I'm not getting it. As I asked another member, please educate me, make this a teachable moment, tell me what I did (factually) that drew your ire....

That's reasonable, isn't it?
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Posted: Dec 6, 2014 - 10:20am

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"Et tu, Brute?"

Just kidding. If that's supposed to be me, its pretty funny. Thanks.

 

Actually no, I just like to post silly pics when discussions get heated to lighten the mood.{#Lol}
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Posted: Dec 6, 2014 - 10:03am

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"Et tu, Brute?"

Just kidding. If that's supposed to be me, its pretty funny. Thanks.
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Posted: Dec 6, 2014 - 7:52am


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Posted: Dec 6, 2014 - 5:12am

 porphyrius wrote:

Hmm. Lots for me to "grasp". Thank you for the feedback. So far, I'd say say self-moderation has been wildly successful! {#Liar}

 
Didn't say it works all that well or smoothly, just is what it is.
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Posted: Dec 5, 2014 - 7:02pm

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I truly and honestly bow to and acknowledge your superior experience, intellect, and knowledge of internet board games. Thank you. Welcome to Radio Paradise?

 
No, welcome back. Really, it's like you never left.
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Posted: Dec 5, 2014 - 7:00pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

I think what Kurt was saying, my belligerent friend, is that setting yourself as "against" other people here is ultimately a loser's game. Disagreeing with others here leaves open the possibility of actual dialog.

Nevertheless, kudos for using the "I'm a Rebel, Dottie" gambit so early in the game. If we gathered up all the people who claimed to be alone in this hostile environment but are determined to fight the good fight as long as the ammo holds out, we could invade some small island nation and take all their rum and cigars.

 
Hey!
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Posted: Dec 5, 2014 - 6:21pm

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Its perfectly fine to take a position, but support it well, for you will be challenged from all sides if it is hinky or has a less than normal source.  And if no one responds, that doesn't mean you are agreed with either or ignored.  People pop in and out all the time.  Most here are well informed, regardless of political alignment.  We self moderate and work hard to clean up our own messes and try to find ways to agree to disagree when the point of impasse is reached.  ( Highlighted because of reading the exchanges going on while I was writing this.  The rules are simple and posted by our host.  So before you dig yourself in too deep, take a deep breath and exhale.  You are over reacting already.  You will find that you get all the rope you can run with here, but don't be running full tilt when it runs out, cuz it will not feel good.  Sometimes its a good idea to wait 10 minutes before responding here and to sit back and digest the comment, rather than react to it.  This is not a chat room, some of our conversations have been going on for years, not minutes. )

As SFW mentioned, kudos for your start, but your welcome is somewhat typical.  We all want to broaden our gene pool here, its just that we are all a little weary about heavy handed openers, regardless of the angle.  There is plenty of wit, humor and inconsistent sarcasm in play and it takes a little while to read the occasional snark.   Passions and personal convictions can also tone some remarks unnecessarily, but each day is a new day.  

Its kinda quiet right now in the politically oriented threads being the holidays an all.  Explore and watch, cuz when the new Congress starts in January, it may get a little bit busier.  But remember, no one can fight all the fights, so pick your battles wisely (in the conversational sense)  Most of who still participate in the political stuff are trying to keep things civil.  One way to see the trend is to backscroll or even change the order from newest post first to oldest and see the progression over time.  You will see a lot and learn a lot about us already here.  We are all good people here and want to get along with each other and in the end despite some of us going off the rails now and then, it works rather nicely.




 
Hmm. Lots for me to "grasp". Thank you for the feedback. So far, I'd say say self-moderation has been wildly successful! {#Liar}
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Posted: Dec 5, 2014 - 5:28pm

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A good and valid point, except that I stopped wearing undies. I now wear Depends. However, I will heed the advice. So, uh, clear this up for me - is it not ok to say you're against something? If not, you could hardly say what you are actually for, could you? That doesn't seem like a good rule, somehow. Also, I was wondering if this is the kind of greeting RP wants to extend to new people? Another rule I think might not be so good.....

 
Its perfectly fine to take a position, but support it well, for you will be challenged from all sides if it is hinky or has a less than normal source.  And if no one responds, that doesn't mean you are agreed with either or ignored.  People pop in and out all the time.  Most here are well informed, regardless of political alignment.  We self moderate and work hard to clean up our own messes and try to find ways to agree to disagree when the point of impasse is reached.  ( Highlighted because of reading the exchanges going on while I was writing this.  The rules are simple and posted by our host.  So before you dig yourself in too deep, take a deep breath and exhale.  You are over reacting already.  You will find that you get all the rope you can run with here, but don't be running full tilt when it runs out, cuz it will not feel good.  Sometimes its a good idea to wait 10 minutes before responding here and to sit back and digest the comment, rather than react to it.  This is not a chat room, some of our conversations have been going on for years, not minutes. )

As SFW mentioned, kudos for your start, but your welcome is somewhat typical.  We all want to broaden our gene pool here, its just that we are all a little weary about heavy handed openers, regardless of the angle.  There is plenty of wit, humor and inconsistent sarcasm in play and it takes a little while to read the occasional snark.   Passions and personal convictions can also tone some remarks unnecessarily, but each day is a new day.  

Its kinda quiet right now in the politically oriented threads being the holidays an all.  Explore and watch, cuz when the new Congress starts in January, it may get a little bit busier.  But remember, no one can fight all the fights, so pick your battles wisely (in the conversational sense)  Most of who still participate in the political stuff are trying to keep things civil.  One way to see the trend is to backscroll or even change the order from newest post first to oldest and see the progression over time.  You will see a lot and learn a lot about us already here.  We are all good people here and want to get along with each other and in the end despite some of us going off the rails now and then, it works rather nicely.





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Posted: Dec 5, 2014 - 4:56pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

About a decade ago, when people would get all upset and leave over some perceived slight, I used to really beat myself up. Maybe we could/should have tried harder to accept whatever their issue was? But I got over it. Because, as it turns out, they usually weren't trying at all, and their issue was usually that they were an anonymous-on-the-internet jerk. STFU if it makes you happy. Expect to be ignored if you continue trolling. Or re-read this thread and maybe you'll see that nobody has ganged up on you. They simply, and politely, disagreed with your position. Which made you cry foul. :shrug: If you don't feel welcome here, it's because you just pissed in the sink.

 
Hmm. Lot of venom there. I merely stated the facts. So, Harry Potter, who you really mad at? Can't be me, but you're throwing out some harsh vibes. By the way, I'm not an expert, but it sure looks like you "trolled" me. Mm, eh, wot?
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Posted: Dec 5, 2014 - 4:47pm

 porphyrius wrote:

I truly and honestly bow to and acknowledge your superior experience, intellect, and knowledge of internet board games. Thank you. Welcome to Radio Paradise?

 
About a decade ago, when people would get all upset and leave over some perceived slight, I used to really beat myself up. Maybe we could/should have tried harder to accept whatever their issue was? But I got over it. Because, as it turns out, they usually weren't trying at all, and their issue was usually that they were an anonymous-on-the-internet jerk. STFU if it makes you happy. Expect to be ignored if you continue trolling. Or re-read this thread and maybe you'll see that nobody has ganged up on you. They simply, and politely, disagreed with your position. Which made you cry foul. :shrug: If you don't feel welcome here, it's because you just pissed in the sink.
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Posted: Dec 5, 2014 - 4:34pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

I think what Kurt was saying, my belligerent friend, is that setting yourself as "against" other people here is ultimately a loser's game. Disagreeing with others here leaves open the possibility of actual dialog.

Nevertheless, kudos for using the "I'm a Rebel, Dottie" gambit so early in the game. If we gathered up all the people who claimed to be alone in this hostile environment but are determined to fight the good fight as long as the ammo holds out, we could invade some small island nation and take all their rum and cigars.

 
I'm sorry, I forgot...

to acknowledge, that,

maybe YOU make the rules, and I should JSTFU?
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Posted: Dec 5, 2014 - 4:25pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

I think what Kurt was saying, my belligerent friend, is that setting yourself as "against" other people here is ultimately a loser's game. Disagreeing with others here leaves open the possibility of actual dialog.

Nevertheless, kudos for using the "I'm a Rebel, Dottie" gambit so early in the game. If we gathered up all the people who claimed to be alone in this hostile environment but are determined to fight the good fight as long as the ammo holds out, we could invade some small island nation and take all their rum and cigars.

 
I truly and honestly bow to and acknowledge your superior experience, intellect, and knowledge of internet board games. Thank you. Welcome to Radio Paradise?
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Posted: Dec 5, 2014 - 4:20pm

 porphyrius wrote:

A good and valid point, except that I stopped wearing undies. I now wear Depends. However, I will heed the advice. So, uh, clear this up for me - is it not ok to say you're against something? If not, you could hardly say what you are actually for, could you? That doesn't seem like a good rule, somehow. Also, I was wondering if this is the kind of greeting RP wants to extend to new people? Another rule I think might not be so good.....

 
I think what Kurt was saying, my belligerent friend, is that setting yourself as "against" other people here is ultimately a loser's game. Disagreeing with others here leaves open the possibility of actual dialog.

Nevertheless, kudos for using the "I'm a Rebel, Dottie" gambit so early in the game. If we gathered up all the people who claimed to be alone in this hostile environment but are determined to fight the good fight as long as the ammo holds out, we could invade some small island nation and take all their rum and cigars.
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Posted: Dec 5, 2014 - 4:06pm

 kurtster wrote:

It might be two against three.  Ya never know.

Don't let them get your undies in a bunch, they're pros at it and find much pleasure in doing what they do.  Those who come from the wrong side of the political aisle here are held to a much higher standard.

But FWIW, it will take you farther here to lose the against notion and think of it more in terms of disagree with.  Just saying as a veteran of this combat ...

 
A good and valid point, except that I stopped wearing undies. I now wear Depends. However, I will heed the advice. So, uh, clear this up for me - is it not ok to say you're against something? If not, you could hardly say what you are actually for, could you? That doesn't seem like a good rule, somehow. Also, I was wondering if this is the kind of greeting RP wants to extend to new people? Another rule I think might not be so good.....
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