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Posted: Jan 12, 2016 - 5:35pm

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Why Israel has silenced the 1948 story of Nazareth’s survival – Mondoweiss/Jonathan Cook (who lives in Nazareth)

A rarely told story of the 1948 war that founded Israel concerns Nazareth’s survival. It is the only Palestinian city in what is today Israel that was not ethnically cleansed during the year-long fighting. Other cities, such as Jaffa, Lydd, Ramleh, Haifa and Acre, now have small Palestinian populations that mostly live in ghetto-like conditions in what have become Jewish cities. Still others, like Tiberias and Safad, have no Palestinians left in them at all.

Nazareth was not only an anomaly; it was a mistake. It was supposed to be cleared of its Palestinian population, just like those other Palestinian cities now in Israel. Much to Israel’s regret, it has become an unofficial capital for Israel’s 1.6 million Palestinian citizens, a fifth of the Israeli population.

The reason for Nazareth’s survival are the actions of one individual. Ben Dunkelman, a Canadian Jew who was the commander of the Israeli army’s Seventh Armoured Brigade, disobeyed orders to expel Nazareth’s residents.

Dunkelman’s role has been largely obscured in the historical record – and for good reason. Israel would prefer that observers make an unjustified assumption: that “Christian” Nazareth survived, unlike other Palestinian cities, because its leaders were less militant or because they preferred to surrender. Dunkelman’s story proves that was not the case.

It is therefore a welcome development that a major Canadian newspaper, the Toronto Star, has revisited Dunkelman’s role in Nazareth, even if its reporter, Mitch Potter, has contributed in his own way to the mythologising of Dunkelman in an article headlined: “The Toronto man who saved Nazareth”. (...)

An Israeli soldier, armed with a rifle, stops Palestinians in a street in Nazareth, Palestine, July 17, 1948. (AP Photo)


 
A nice town. So different from the rest of the state.
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Posted: Jan 12, 2016 - 12:53pm

Why Israel has silenced the 1948 story of Nazareth’s survival – Mondoweiss/Jonathan Cook (who lives in Nazareth)

A rarely told story of the 1948 war that founded Israel concerns Nazareth’s survival. It is the only Palestinian city in what is today Israel that was not ethnically cleansed during the year-long fighting. Other cities, such as Jaffa, Lydd, Ramleh, Haifa and Acre, now have small Palestinian populations that mostly live in ghetto-like conditions in what have become Jewish cities. Still others, like Tiberias and Safad, have no Palestinians left in them at all.

Nazareth was not only an anomaly; it was a mistake. It was supposed to be cleared of its Palestinian population, just like those other Palestinian cities now in Israel. Much to Israel’s regret, it has become an unofficial capital for Israel’s 1.6 million Palestinian citizens, a fifth of the Israeli population.

The reason for Nazareth’s survival are the actions of one individual. Ben Dunkelman, a Canadian Jew who was the commander of the Israeli army’s Seventh Armoured Brigade, disobeyed orders to expel Nazareth’s residents.

Dunkelman’s role has been largely obscured in the historical record – and for good reason. Israel would prefer that observers make an unjustified assumption: that “Christian” Nazareth survived, unlike other Palestinian cities, because its leaders were less militant or because they preferred to surrender. Dunkelman’s story proves that was not the case.

It is therefore a welcome development that a major Canadian newspaper, the Toronto Star, has revisited Dunkelman’s role in Nazareth, even if its reporter, Mitch Potter, has contributed in his own way to the mythologising of Dunkelman in an article headlined: “The Toronto man who saved Nazareth”. (...)

An Israeli soldier, armed with a rifle, stops Palestinians in a street in Nazareth, Palestine, July 17, 1948. (AP Photo)

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Posted: Aug 10, 2015 - 2:23pm

Netanyahu Must Stop Silencing Intel Chiefs Who Find Iran Deal Acceptable
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Posted: May 24, 2015 - 10:29am

Netanyahu thanks US for blocking nuclear resolution

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu phoned U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry to thank the U.S. for blocking a proposal calling for making the Middle East a nuclear-weapon-free zone through a UN conference.

A senior Israeli official was quoted by Israeli daily Haaretz as saying that Netanyahu had told Kerry on Saturday that the U.S. met the commitment it made to Israel in 2010 with regard to the nuclear issue.

The U.S. had blocked the decision at the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty Review Conference that closed Friday night in New York.

The Egyptian-led drive called for tasking the UN secretary general with convening an international conference on making the Middle East a nuclear weapons-free zone by March 2016.

According to the official, Netanyahu told Kerry that he appreciated his and President Barack Obama's position as well as the efforts of the U.S. delegation to the conference.

The proposal was led by Egypt and other Arab and non-aligned states, calling for UN chief to call on regional conference on banning weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in the Middle East.

U.S. Under Secretary of State Rose Gottemoeller said there was "no agreement", and accused Egypt and other Arab states of bringing "unrealistic and unworkable conditions" to the negotiations, charges that had been denied by Egypt.

Again (with some help from the usual poodles)...

Dimona: Israel’s “Little Hiroshima” » CounterPunch
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Posted: Apr 23, 2015 - 2:12pm

US Lawmakers Quietly Advance Legislation to Penalize Boycott of Israel
Little-noticed amendment was included in controversial Fast Track trade bill that just passed the Senate Finance Committee
Organizations across Canada oppose government effort to criminalize criticism of Israel – Mondoweiss
In recent years, Israel and its allies have become increasingly concerned about the growing international movement to expose and sanction Israel’s behaviour. Their chosen response appears to be one designed to intimidate and suppress this opposition through the threat or actual use of legal punishments. Nowhere has Israel’s call for help in this outrageous endeavor been more enthusiastically embraced than in the right-wing Canadian government of Prime Minister Stephen Harper, which is widely considered Benjamin Netanyahu’s strongest ally.

In the face of growing intimidation from the Harper government, Independent Jewish Voices – Canada (IJV) decided to write a statement that identifies the tangible threat to criminalize criticism of the state of Israel in Canada. We reached out to civil society organizations across the country, with the goal of finding broad public support in defense of our civil liberties, which are already under attack through the terrifying Bill C-51. (...)


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Posted: Mar 26, 2015 - 5:49am

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As you said the "worst kept secret in the world". I used to call them Schroedinger nukes (since they were in a state of neither confirming nor denying their existence), and I've argued their existence in this forum before (probably pointing to the same '87 document). The result? Far-right posters denying the obvious.

I do give you credit for the common sense knowledge of Israel having nukes for all these years.  I was a tongue in cheek poke at you is all.  I never denied the existence of Israel's nukes.  Not aware of anyone here ever denying that either.  Perhaps other sites where you debate.

  
The rest of your post isn't about anything I said. Though it's fairly rife with ideological paranoia as well as more omissions. It's clear you want to talk about Iran, not Israel. A Bibi Light red herring reprise of sorts.

How do you talk about Israel without talking about Iran these days ?  Iran is working hard to accomplish The Final Solution or have you missed that ?

  
Having nukes is an effective deterrent. No talk of offensive capabilities was ever offered.

But why not go back to 1953 though? Overthrowing (coup d'etat) a democratically elected head of state (that threatened nationalization of oil), and putting a corrupt torturing puppet on his throne (who even was allowed to have nuclear technology)? Great way to ensure you get more polarization in a country as well as yet another enemy. A continued practice in line with the first point earlier, which you didn't want to address (I understand why, because whoever follows, Dem., Rep. (even in the unlikely guise of a Teabagger faction star-du-jour) will simply do more of the same).

There is one TP'er who does have the right idea about the USA's role in foreign policy, Rand Paul, at least in my mind.

  
The remark w.r.t. the nuclear free weapons zone stands on its own. Talks were cancelled in 2012. Want to guess by who? And why?


Yep, it failed, and made matters worse, no argument from me.  

  

 
I'll return the floor to you.  I accomplished what I set out to do, which was posting my little assessment of the current alignment of the US political factions presently in play, without relighting a thread to express it.  You just presented the opportunity is all.
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Posted: Mar 25, 2015 - 10:33pm

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on the second notion, Israel has had the bomb for decades.  Its been the worst kept secret in the world.  Did you just become aware of it when you read the article you posted below ? What the nuclear arms race in the ME has been going on since 1967 ?   Gimme a break, unless you want to go back to 1979 and the over throw of the Shah ?  That's when the crazy theocracy was established and their goal has been bring forth the Twelfth Imam, the elimination of first Israel and then the USA ever since.

If you really think Israel developed their bomb for offensive purposes, then why haven't they used it already ?
 
As you said the "worst kept secret in the world". I used to call them Schroedinger nukes (since they were in a state of neither confirming nor denying their existence), and I've argued their existence in this forum before (probably pointing to the same '87 document). The result? Far-right posters denying the obvious.

The rest of your post isn't about anything I said. Though it's fairly rife with ideological paranoia as well as more omissions. It's clear you want to talk about Iran, not Israel. A Bibi Light red herring reprise of sorts.

Having nukes is an effective deterrent. No talk of offensive capabilities was ever offered.

But why not go back to 1953 though? Overthrowing (coup d'etat) a democratically elected head of state (that threatened nationalization of oil), and putting a corrupt torturing puppet on his throne (who even was allowed to have nuclear technology)? Great way to ensure you get more polarization in a country as well as yet another enemy. A continued practice in line with the first point earlier, which you didn't want to address (I understand why, because whoever follows, Dem., Rep. (even in the unlikely guise of a Teabagger faction star-du-jour) will simply do more of the same).

The remark w.r.t. the nuclear free weapons zone stands on its own. Talks were cancelled in 2012. Want to guess by who? And why?

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Posted: Mar 25, 2015 - 9:52pm

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The difference is that I make no pretence that the current occupant is any better or worse than his dismal predecessor. By now it's the nature of the beast.

As for the nuclear arms race in the Middle East, see a few posts down who started it and is allowed to get away with it. Because of this, preventing an arms race there (or creating a nuclear weapon free region as proposed by regional parties) is neither a serious endeavour (supported by the US) nor a possible outcome. Iran policy isn't aimed at that result anyway, despite public claims to the contrary.

 
I knew it couldn't last long ...

Passing on the first notion,

on the second notion, Israel has had the bomb for decades.  Its been the worst kept secret in the world.  Did you just become aware of it when you read the article you posted below ? What the nuclear arms race in the ME has been going on since 1967 ?   Gimme a break, unless you want to go back to 1979 and the over throw of the Shah ?  That's when the crazy theocracy was established and their goal has been bring forth the Twelfth Imam, the elimination of first Israel and then the USA ever since.

If you really think Israel developed their bomb for offensive purposes, then why haven't they used it already ?

I'll get your answer in the morning ...

 
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Posted: Mar 25, 2015 - 9:16pm

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Are we having an agreement on something ?  Aaaack !  
 
The difference is that I make no pretence that the current occupant is any better or worse than his dismal predecessor. By now it's the nature of the beast.

As for the nuclear arms race in the Middle East, see a few posts down who started it and is allowed to get away with it. Because of this, preventing an arms race there (or creating a nuclear weapon free region as proposed by regional parties) is neither a serious endeavour (supported by the US) nor a possible outcome. Iran policy isn't aimed at that result anyway, despite public claims to the contrary.
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Posted: Mar 25, 2015 - 9:09pm

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Meddling, by whatever side of the aisle (or ally), leads to enemies which will evolve/rebrand themselves like a corporation with bad press (Blackwater, Xe, etc.). It's an extremely difficult concept to grasp, but there you have it. {#Wink}

 
Are we having an agreement on something ?  Aaaack !  


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Posted: Mar 25, 2015 - 9:03pm

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Not really, just omitted for brevity.

Besides, they "have been decimated" by Obama's strong leadership ...     {#Mrgreen}
 
Meddling, by whatever side of the aisle (or ally), leads to enemies which will evolve/rebrand themselves like a corporation with bad press (Blackwater, Xe, etc.). It's an extremely difficult concept to grasp, but there you have it. {#Wink}
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Posted: Mar 25, 2015 - 8:54pm

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That would of course be the US-sponsored autocratic majority Sunni governments that are in a marriage of convenience. And I guess you already forgot Sunni Al-Qaeda. {#Mrgreen}

 
Not really, just omitted for brevity.

Besides, they "have been decimated" by Obama's strong leadership ...     {#Mrgreen}
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Posted: Mar 25, 2015 - 8:51pm

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The Sunni are on the side of Israel. (...)
 
That would of course be the US-sponsored autocratic majority Sunni governments that are in a marriage of convenience. And I guess you already forgot Sunni Al-Qaeda*. {#Mrgreen}

* which had a bit of a problem with US boots in Saudi Arabia, as well as the US-sponsored Israeli treatment of Palestinians.
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Posted: Mar 25, 2015 - 8:38pm

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Fuck Zionism.

 
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Posted: Mar 25, 2015 - 8:36pm

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When you're so intimately in bed together and are practically married, you'd think these things would be shared anyway. A jealous (or paranoid) lover who's checking your phone while you're asleep. {#Wink}

 
You would think that, eh ?

Actually from what I have gathered on this particular incident, Israel learned the so called secrets by listening to Iran and not the USA as Obama would like us to believe.

Obama has a real hard on for Israel and Bebe in particular.  Let us not forget that Obama's right hand man is an Iranian, Ms Valerie Jarrett.  Let's take a closer look at what really might be going on in the region over there.

There is civil war between Sunni and Shiia going on.  The Sunni are on the side of Israel.  They would be Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan to name the largest principles and they were elated that Netanyahu got re elected.  On the other side are the Shiia, the Iranians, the Syrians and the Iraqi's by proxy to Iran and The Muslim Brotherhood who wish Israel to cease to exist and bring death to America.  Obama (taking the democrats with him) is on the side of the Shiia while the republicans appear to be on the side of Israel and the Sunni.  Only Obama is trying to say that he is on no side when clearly by looking at how he handled Egypt, Libya, Syria and Israel, he has picked his sides.

ISIS is more Sunni than anything else, but bad for everyone overall.  Let's not forget Yemen, the little country that Obama not too long ago held up as a shining example of his successful foreign policy and also our key intelligence portal over there..  Howze that working for ya now, Mr President ?  

We now have Obama turning over Iraq to Iran and Iran leading the fight against ISIS.  Obama is also helping run interference for the Iranians to get the bomb, setting up a nucular arms race in the Middle East.  With Obama handing over the fight against Sunni ISIS to the Iranians, he keeps his hands clean and can effectively deflect any questions about being against anything over there except Israel.

Then Obama hates petroleum more than he hates republicans.  What better way to disrupt the entire world and screw it based upon its dependence of evil petroleum than by getting the over throw of the Sunnis in Saudi Arabia (just like he did with Qadaffy and Mubarek) and throwing the global market into total chaos with the Iranians controlling all oil flow via the Straits of Hormuz  ?

Oh, meanwhile Obama says that Climate Change is the greatest threat to world peace.  In reality, Climate Change is the shiny object he holds up to distract everyone's attention from what is going on over there.

 This does not end well.

Oh wait, this is just some fantasy dream thing.  Not a chance of any of this being real or in the slightest way possible at any level.

Silly me,  never mind ...
 


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Posted: Mar 25, 2015 - 8:25pm

Fuck Zionism.
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Posted: Mar 25, 2015 - 7:52pm

 kurtster wrote:
Well, duh ...
 
When you're so intimately in bed together and are practically married, you'd think these things would be shared anyway. A jealous (or paranoid) lover who's checking your phone while you're asleep. {#Wink}
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Posted: Mar 25, 2015 - 7:38pm

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Greenwald:

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday vehemently denied a Wall Street Journal report, leaked by the Obama White House, that Israel spied on U.S. negotiations with Iran and then fed the intelligence to Congressional Republicans. His office’s denial was categorical and absolute, extending beyond this specific story to U.S.-targeted spying generally, claiming: “The state of Israel does not conduct espionage against the United States or Israel’s other allies.”

Israel’s claim is not only incredible on its face. It is also squarely contradicted by top-secret NSA documents, which state that Israel targets the U.S. government for invasive electronic surveillance, and does so more aggressively and threateningly than almost any other country in the world. Indeed, so concerted and aggressive are Israeli efforts against the U.S. that some key U.S. government documents — including the top secret 2013 intelligence budget — list Israel among the U.S.’s most threatening cyber-adversaries and as a “hostile” foreign intelligence service.

One top-secret 2008 document features an interview with the NSA’s Global Capabilities Manager for Countering Foreign Intelligence, entitled “Which Foreign Intelligence Service Is the Biggest Threat to the US?” He repeatedly names Israel as one of the key threats.

While noting that Russia and China do the most effective spying on U.S., he says that “Israel also targets us.” He explains that “A NIE ranked as the third most aggressive intelligence service against the US.” While praising the surveillance relationship with Israel as highly valuable, he added: “One of NSA’s biggest threats is actually from friendly intelligence services, like Israel.
” Specifically, the Israelis “target us to learn our positions on Middle East problems.” (...)



 
Well, duh ...
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Posted: Mar 25, 2015 - 7:28pm

Greenwald:

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday vehemently denied a Wall Street Journal report, leaked by the Obama White House, that Israel spied on U.S. negotiations with Iran and then fed the intelligence to Congressional Republicans. His office’s denial was categorical and absolute, extending beyond this specific story to U.S.-targeted spying generally, claiming: “The state of Israel does not conduct espionage against the United States or Israel’s other allies.”

Israel’s claim is not only incredible on its face. It is also squarely contradicted by top-secret NSA documents, which state that Israel targets the U.S. government for invasive electronic surveillance, and does so more aggressively and threateningly than almost any other country in the world. Indeed, so concerted and aggressive are Israeli efforts against the U.S. that some key U.S. government documents — including the top secret 2013 intelligence budget — list Israel among the U.S.’s most threatening cyber-adversaries and as a “hostile” foreign intelligence service.

One top-secret 2008 document features an interview with the NSA’s Global Capabilities Manager for Countering Foreign Intelligence, entitled “Which Foreign Intelligence Service Is the Biggest Threat to the US?” He repeatedly names Israel as one of the key threats.

While noting that Russia and China do the most effective spying on U.S., he says that “Israel also targets us.” He explains that “A NIE ranked as the third most aggressive intelligence service against the US.” While praising the surveillance relationship with Israel as highly valuable, he added: “One of NSA’s biggest threats is actually from friendly intelligence services, like Israel.” Specifically, the Israelis “target us to learn our positions on Middle East problems.” (...)


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Posted: Mar 23, 2015 - 2:07pm

It’s Official: The Pentagon Finally Admitted That Israel Has Nuclear Weapons, Too | The Nation

While the Washington press corps obsessed over Hillary Clinton’s e-mails at the State Department, reporters were missing a far more important story about government secrets. After five decades of pretending otherwise, the Pentagon has reluctantly confirmed that Israel does indeed possess nuclear bombs, as well as awesome weapons technology similar to America’s.

Early last month the Department of Defense released a secret report done in 1987 by the Pentagon-funded Institute for Defense Analysis that essentially confirms the existence of Israel’s nukes. DOD was responding to a Freedom of Information lawsuit filed by Grant Smith, an investigative reporter and author who heads the Institute for Research: Middle East Policy. Smith said he thinks this is the first time the US government has ever provided official recognition of the long-standing reality.

It’s not exactly news. Policy elites and every president from LBJ to Obama have known that Israel has the bomb. But American authorities have cooperated in the secrecy and prohibited federal employees from sharing the truth with the people. When the White House reporter Helen Thomas asked the question of Barack Obama back in 2009, the president ducked. “With respect to nuclear weapons, you know, I don’t want to speculate,” Obama said. That was an awkward fib. Obama certainly knows better, and so do nearly two-thirds of the American people, according to opinion polls. (...)


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