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Posted: Apr 28, 2016 - 1:02pm

SIMPLY THE WORST=> Obama is First President Ever to Not See Single Year of 3% GDP Growth


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Posted: Apr 27, 2016 - 7:29pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Obama is well-documented as disliking the Brits.

 
I think it's funny that the "documentation" is from mostly right-leaning/rightwing columnists in the UK who would gleefully mock a "liberal" who fabricated conspiracies as vaporous as this one. 
 
"There are some who say that Mr. Obama has a deep-rooted suspicion of Britain because of events that affected his forebears in Kenya when it was a British colony. He has, it is argued, a hatred of British imperialism, which is why, rumor goes, he had a presentation bust of Winston Churchill removed from the White House, Churchill being viewed as a British imperialist archetype. It is also suggested that Mr. Obama’s desire to pin the blame for the oil disaster solely on BP and Britain springs from his perception of oil exploration in American waters by a British company as another example of such imperialism."

 
I think its funny that only so-called "right-wing" columnists would report on it.
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Posted: Apr 25, 2016 - 10:42pm


Obama is well-documented as disliking the Brits.

 
I think it's funny that the "documentation" is from mostly right-leaning/rightwing columnists in the UK who would gleefully mock a "liberal" who fabricated conspiracies as vaporous as this one. 
 
"There are some who say that Mr. Obama has a deep-rooted suspicion of Britain because of events that affected his forebears in Kenya when it was a British colony. He has, it is argued, a hatred of British imperialism, which is why, rumor goes, he had a presentation bust of Winston Churchill removed from the White House, Churchill being viewed as a British imperialist archetype. It is also suggested that Mr. Obama’s desire to pin the blame for the oil disaster solely on BP and Britain springs from his perception of oil exploration in American waters by a British company as another example of such imperialism."
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Posted: Apr 25, 2016 - 1:29pm

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The great news is that Obama will have given a big boost to the Leave campaign of BREXIT. What a fool.
  

Well blow me down....

Sky Poll: Obama's EU Warning Counterproductive

 
Surprised ?  Not.  Though I am in favor of exit myself.

Yeah Obama hates Brits, no boughtadoubt it.  If Obama was POTUS during WW II, GB and the rest of Europe would now be speaking German. 
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Posted: Apr 25, 2016 - 11:26am

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The great news is that Obama will have given a big boost to the Leave campaign of BREXIT. What a fool.
 
Well blow me down....

Sky Poll: Obama's EU Warning Counterproductive




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Posted: Apr 25, 2016 - 1:38am

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Obama is well-documented as disliking the Brits.

 
Yes *some* of our media have actually been calling it out. 

Obama Might As Well Have Declared: ‘Britain Lost the War Of Independence Because You Have Small D**ks’

President Obama’s visit to the United Kingdom was nothing more than a trolling exercise, straight out of the Saul Alinsky playbook.

The tactics went like this:

The Provocation

Barack Obama came to Britain and, in the guise of lofty, statesman-like disinterested amity made a statement so outrageously provocative that he might just as well have said: “My historians tell me the reason you guys lost the War of Independence is because your penises were incredibly small.”

No really – his presumption in telling us which way to vote in the European Union debate was that arrogant and rude. The only people in Britain who welcomed Obama’s intervention were the ones already on board with the European Union project. For anyone else, it was a calculated insult from a meddling hypocrite interloper.

The Inevitable Reaction

That’s why, naturally enough, those on the opposing side of the argument – the ones advocating exit from the European Union – responded in kind. If Obama was going to behave like a bumptious prick, well, he deserved to be treated like a bumptious prick.

Hence the perfectly proportionate response by Boris Johnson (Mayor of London; leading light of the Brexit faction) making gentle reference to the President’s Kenyan, anti-British heritage, to Obama’s pointed return of the Winston Churchill bust, and to the meddling, anti-democratic, and thoroughly un-American nature of his suggestion that Britain should remain shackled to the kind of socialist superstate that no American would personally tolerate.

The Manufacture of the Outrage

If you understand how the modern left – especially its Praetorian Guard, the Social Justice Warriors (SJW) – operates, what you’ll realise is this: that the sole tactical purpose of the President’s visit was to generate a kind of “beneficial crisis” which could then be exploited for political ends.

No one could have known beforehand what this beneficial crisis would look like. Essentially it had to be manufactured out of whatever material, however flimsy, that events managed to throw up.

What the SJW hive mind eventually decided on was this: Boris Johnson is a racist.

Probably the finest example of this humbug was to be found not in the Guardian but in the Spectator in this spluttering exercise in over-the-top sanctimoniousness by Nick Cohen.

Here’s a taste:
I’m not someone who throws accusations of racism around – it’s too serious a charge to devalue. But, come now, the fantasy that Obama is the heir of the Mau-Maus with no right to govern is a racist lie that appeals to deep, dark traditions in the US. From slavery, through the Civil War, the backlash against Reconstruction, and Jim Crow, the argument has been the same: blacks have no right to vote, and black politicians have no right to rule.

Yep, that’s it, Nick. Let me translate for you: “Anyone who wants to leave the European Union is the kind of racist bastard who, like Boris Johnson, wants to bring back slavery and hang all black people.”

The Hive Swarms

Vox Day describes this in more detail in his excellent book Social Justice Warriors Always Lie. It’s an essential part of the strategy of the modern left, as laid out decades ago by Saul Alinsky in his Rules for Radicals. Essentially you seek to destroy your most dangerous opponents by isolating them and swarming on them like an angry hive.

Pretty much everyone on the left joins in to condemn Johnson’s outrageous outrageousness. So does everyone else on the Remain campaign. So, amazingly, does one of Winston Churchill’s grandsons – the Conservative MP Nicholas Soames.

The purpose is to leave the victim isolated and confused. And ideally to extract from him some kind of humiliating apology (which of course will not be accepted).

Truth is the First Casualty

Which, in this case, is the fact that Boris Johnson was entirely correct in what he said about Obama and the Churchill bust; that his point was well made; that the scumbags trying to make political capital out of this manufactured scandal are more slippery than a bag of eels in KY jelly and lower than bubonic vermin.




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Posted: Apr 24, 2016 - 11:53am

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Obama is well-documented as disliking the Brits.
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Posted: Apr 24, 2016 - 4:16am

59% of Americans say no, Obama; Britain should never be at back of line



And now more scaremongering from Obama: 

US-UK trade deal could take 10 years if Brexit goes ahead, Obama warns




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Posted: Apr 23, 2016 - 7:38am

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Johnson scored some major own goals in his commentary Which haven't gone down well here. Not too sure how the Obama speech has gone down as I only saw the BBC and guardian commentarybut I just gritted my teeth and flicked over to look at the daily mail. They seem to be fairly moderate/neutral on it and not all shouty as they often are (Obama is liked a lot over here) so over all inevitably some people aren't pleased but that mostly seems to be those who are firmly Brexit already.

ps It would be great if boris sinks out of sight post referendum but sadly that seems unlikely. He's posited as next leader of the Tory party......

 

https://www.facebook.com/brendan.oneill.79/posts/1018634734893286?pnref=story

The fuss over Boris Johnson referring to Obama as a "part-Kenyan hypocrite" in relation to his interference in the British discussion about the EU is nuts. Has anyone actually read Boris's article?

Firstly he doesn't say "part-Kenyan hypocrite" — that's just how the outraged headline-writers and bone-headed tweeters have paraphrased it. And secondly, he merely refers to what *other people said* about Obama when he had the bust of Winston Churchill removed from the Oval Office in 2009.

Boris lists the various explanations people gave for Obama's removal of the bust. Boris's list includes this remark: "Some said it was a symbol of the part-Kenyan President’s ancestral dislike of the British empire – of which Churchill had been such a fervent defender."

And the fact is some people did say that. In 2009, when the bust went AWOL, there was heated media discussion about whether this was Obama's payback to Churchill / Britain for what the Empire did in Kenya. This discussion was widespread. It was in the Telegraph, the Mail, and even the Guardian, which is currently losing its shit over Boris's comment. The Guardian said in 2009 that Obama's "colonial inheritance", his "Kenyan... ancestry", may have been behind his decision to get rid of the Churchill bust, and perhaps his presidency and his relationship with Britain will be influenced by "the darker days of the UK's relationship with Kenya".

So, get this: Boris is currently the leading story at the Guardian for merely reporting what the Guardian, and others, said seven years ago! You couldn't make this shit up. I'm not a big fan of Boris, but these thoughtless Twitterstorms, this weaving of scandals from nothing, are really bad for public debate. This might just be the dumbest Twitterstorm yet. They want Boris to apologise; it's they who should be apologising, for being so dim, and so destructive of rational discussion.


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Posted: Apr 23, 2016 - 4:56am

The great news is that Obama will have given a big boost to the Leave campaign of BREXIT. What a fool. Brits don't like being lectured and threatened by an arrogant president.

Will Barack Obama’s ‘back of the queue’ threat backfire?

Barack Obama’s decision to visit Britain during an election campaign was controversial enough. His writing an article against Brexit in theDaily Telegraph was more controversial still. But to stand in Downing Street and threaten his host country with being dumped ‘at the back of the queue’ for trade talks should it choose to leave the EU is, I think, too much. It’s precisely the comment that could backfire, and spark indignation. And make people ask: who on earth is Obama to come to Britain and speak to us in this way?

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Posted: Apr 23, 2016 - 12:53am

 MrsHobieJoe wrote:

Johnson scored some major own goals in his commentary Which haven't gone down well here. Not too sure how the Obama speech has gone down as I only saw the BBC and guardian commentarybut I just gritted my teeth and flicked over to look at the daily mail. They seem to be fairly moderate/neutral on it and not all shouty as they often are (Obama is liked a lot over here) so over all inevitably some people aren't pleased but that mostly seems to be those who are firmly Brexit already.

ps It would be great if boris sinks out of sight post referendum but sadly that seems unlikely. He's posited as next leader of the Tory party......

 
He's been saying for a year or two that he intends to renounce his US citizenship. He should probably think about filing that paperwork soon...
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Posted: Apr 22, 2016 - 11:10pm

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Johnson scored some major own goals in his commentary Which haven't gone down well here. Not too sure how the Obama speech has gone down as I only saw the BBC and guardian commentarybut I just gritted my teeth and flicked over to look at the daily mail. They seem to be fairly moderate/neutral on it and not all shouty as they often are (Obama is liked a lot over here) so over all inevitably some people aren't pleased but that mostly seems to be those who are firmly Brexit already.

ps It would be great if boris sinks out of sight post referendum but sadly that seems unlikely. He's posited as next leader of the Tory party......
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Posted: Apr 22, 2016 - 5:13pm

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Maybe peeps don't know but Obama has been in the UK and seriously rustling some feathers. 

 



 

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Posted: Apr 22, 2016 - 4:38pm

Maybe peeps don't know but Obama has been in the UK and seriously rustling some feathers. 

 




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Posted: Apr 22, 2016 - 3:14pm

National Border Patrol Council VP: Obama ‘Has Done Everything He Possibly Can’ To Keep Border Patrol From Doing Its Job




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Posted: Apr 21, 2016 - 11:46am

Old but good.



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Posted: Apr 20, 2016 - 6:11am

This week's cover: The great pretender. Tim Montgomerie () and Anne Applebaum on Obama, Britain and Brexit

Obama’s Brexit overreach is typical of his arrogance





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Posted: Apr 1, 2016 - 1:26am

Cuban State Media: ‘Negro’ Obama ‘Incited Rebellion and Disorder’


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Posted: Mar 29, 2016 - 12:36pm

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False according to Snopes and FactCheck. (Not that this should come as a surprise)

 




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