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Posted: Jan 26, 2015 - 2:29am

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I'm not commenting on TPP, but that when folks agree - like how we all like RP - it might be because it's the right thing. Sometimes there's a reason for consensus.

You know, I grew up loving Carlin, when he was hippy and dippy. We should all have some sort of open-eyed realism at the weirdness of the world and turn it into a joke when possible.
But he turned that into misery, which isn't "entertainment" to me.

We all know someone like that, who has a criticism for everything, regardless: "That damned bar of gold you gave me is too freakin' heavy!" 

Life is both: good and bad. If you get stuck in one of those modes, each one is equally head-in-the-sand. 
Those folks get boring fast. They think they're Telling You Something, but I can't wait for them to stop so I can smile politely at their wit and then walk away.

 
I understand what you are saying, but in regards to politics I usually try to stick to issues.  I do not support the TPP because of what it is and I also realize that the biggest problems in our society are caused by perpetual, systemic ills in our government and political process that desperately need to be addressed and all 3 of our branches are thoroughly infected.
As for Carlin, I couldn't disagree more.  I thought he was brilliant and funny and actually thought his act improved the older he got because he started to care less and less about controversy or repercussions to his career.  I do not see misery in his routines, I see shake your head insight delivered in a hilarious fashion.  Now, you are thinking of Lenny Bruce, he just became not funny.  Bottom line is that if you are a comedian, your raison d'etre  is to be funny and make people laugh and to me Carlin delivered to the end. 


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Posted: Jan 25, 2015 - 9:11am

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"Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out."

 
I'm not commenting on TPP, but that when folks agree - like how we all like RP - it might be because it's the right thing. Sometimes there's a reason for consensus.

You know, I grew up loving Carlin, when he was hippy and dippy. We should all have some sort of open-eyed realism at the weirdness of the world and turn it into a joke when possible.
But he turned that into misery, which isn't "entertainment" to me.

We all know someone like that, who has a criticism for everything, regardless: "That damned bar of gold you gave me is too freakin' heavy!" 

Life is both: good and bad. If you get stuck in one of those modes, each one is equally head-in-the-sand. 
Those folks get boring fast. They think they're Telling You Something, but I can't wait for them to stop so I can smile politely at their wit and then walk away.


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Posted: Jan 25, 2015 - 9:02am

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If you oppose re-election on that issue, you couldn't vote for Romney either, it seems 
I couldn't find anything about Romney opposing TPP, but

from Fox: "Romney says he would use trade promotion authority to complete the Trans-Pacific Partnership pact, to pursue a bilateral deal with the EU and explore free trade pacts with other countries such as Brazil and India."

and there was this that says that both "major" candidates supported it.

 


"Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out."
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Posted: Jan 25, 2015 - 8:56am

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I'm on record here opposing the TPP before the 2012 election.  It was a good reason to oppose Obama's re election.  As usual, I received the usual flack accusing me of Obama bashing.  But here we are now.  It was out there back then and here it is now.

 
If you oppose re-election on that issue, you couldn't vote for Romney either, it seems 
I couldn't find anything about Romney opposing TPP, but

from Fox: "Romney says he would use trade promotion authority to complete the Trans-Pacific Partnership pact, to pursue a bilateral deal with the EU and explore free trade pacts with other countries such as Brazil and India."

and there was this that says that both "major" candidates supported it.
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Posted: Jan 25, 2015 - 2:30am

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I'm on record here opposing the TPP before the 2012 election.  It was a good reason to oppose Obama's re election.  As usual, I received the usual flack accusing me of Obama bashing.  But here we are now.  It was out there back then and here it is now.
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Posted: Jan 23, 2015 - 1:22pm

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I'm in support of the TPP, and in fact I always ask my wife to have two rolls ready at all time so we don't run out when we have guests.
In the woods, I understand that sometimes you have to have an alternate plan.But that's what makes America the Land of The Free!

 
Speaking of the land of the free, did you know that you can walk into most grocers and they usually have a water fountain dispensing free water, and bathroom stalls that dispense free toilet paper? Yet, incongruously, you can find toilet paper for sale in aisle 9, and bottled water for sale in aisle 7? 

Occasionally I like to enter the store, purchase a bottle of water and a roll of toilet paper, and then offer the water and toilet paper to people who walking past to use the water fountain/restroom. Just to confuse them. 


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Posted: Jan 22, 2015 - 9:15am

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I'm in support of the TPP, and in fact I always ask my wife to have two rolls ready at all time so we don't run out when we have guests.
In the woods, I understand that sometimes you have to have an alternate plan.But that's what makes America the Land of The Free!

 


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Posted: Jan 22, 2015 - 9:10am

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That's funny, I like Jon Stewart though I fail to see how this has anything to do with the TPP.  Most true progressives that I know vehemently oppose it, how's bout you?

 
I'm in support of the TPP, and in fact I always ask my wife to have two rolls ready at all time so we don't run out when we have guests.
In the woods, I understand that sometimes you have to have an alternate plan.But that's what makes America the Land of The Free!
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Posted: Jan 22, 2015 - 8:53am

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 sirdroseph wrote:
In an otherwise pretty innocuous and uncontroversial SOTU, this was pretty disturbing and I hope more word gets out about this horrible treaty the elites are trying to push through. I applaud the Democrats who are making a stand, we should hold all of our Congress accountable on how they vote and why for this:
 
Make it to the Rand Paul portion about his disdain for "the elites."



 

That's funny, I like Jon Stewart though I fail to see how this has anything to do with the TPP.  Most true progressives that I know vehemently oppose it, how's bout you?
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Posted: Jan 22, 2015 - 8:29am

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In an otherwise pretty innocuous and uncontroversial SOTU, this was pretty disturbing and I hope more word gets out about this horrible treaty the elites are trying to push through. I applaud the Democrats who are making a stand, we should hold all of our Congress accountable on how they vote and why for this:
 
Make it to the Rand Paul portion about his disdain for "the elites."




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Posted: Jan 22, 2015 - 4:07am

In an otherwise pretty innocuous and uncontroversial SOTU, this was pretty disturbing and I hope more word gets out about this horrible treaty the elites are trying to push through. I applaud the Democrats who are making a stand, we should hold all of our Congress accountable on how they vote and why for this:

Democrats to fight Obama on secret trade deal authorization


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Posted: Dec 31, 2014 - 2:38am

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Not just him but this seemed to be as good a place as any.

11 of the worst policy ideas of 2014

 I have to say these are all pretty bad IMO, but especially the civil asset forfeiture.

 
We could argue some of them, but I agree the civil asset forfeiture is the worst.
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Posted: Dec 31, 2014 - 12:45am

Not just him but this seemed to be as good a place as any.

11 of the worst policy ideas of 2014

 I have to say these are all pretty bad IMO, but especially the civil asset forfeiture.
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Posted: Dec 19, 2014 - 9:39am

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Oh, that reminds me.

THANKS, OBAMA!   CURRENT US PRESIDENT

 

FYT 

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Posted: Dec 19, 2014 - 9:35am

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This indicates 2 things; Obama is not the progressive that many claim he is from the partisan left and he is also not the evil Socialist that the partisan right claims.

Obama Didn't Spread the Wealth,  He Concentrated It, Pew Study Finds



 
Oh, that reminds me.

THANKS, OBAMA! 
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Posted: Dec 19, 2014 - 4:54am

This indicates 2 things; Obama is not the progressive that many claim he is from the partisan left and he is also not the evil Socialist that the partisan right claims.

Obama Didn't Spread the Wealth,  He Concentrated It, Pew Study Finds




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Posted: Dec 8, 2014 - 9:37pm

Obama is breaking another major promise, that he would have the US totally out of Afghanistan at the end of 2014.  Not only is he breaking it, he has authorized an additional 1,000 more to be there on top of the 10,000 staying on.

He kept his promise in Iraq.  Oh wait ... he got us out and now he's taking us back in, but with 'no boots on the ground' ...  Oh wait, we now have over 3,000 'no boots on the ground' in Iraq.

I guess it all makes sense though, considering his geopolitical knowledge is second to none ... 

 
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Posted: Dec 6, 2014 - 10:17am

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Because a lot of the jobs are either for the unskilled or the very skilled, and much of the US workforce persists in the moderately skilled sector. The labor market is changing, and too many Americans aren't changing with it: they want those factory jobs that are done by robots, or jobs in industries that are either fading or moving overseas.

I also think too many of us get wrapped up in the "job as identity" trap as opposed to "job as a means to an end". It's a lot easier to make changes if you start from the point that you are something other than doctor, engineer, foreman, whatever - you are what you do when you aren't at work, and all that working is just so you can pay the bills and be who you are. It's great if you can combine the two, and we should all try to do that, but at the end of the day you do what you have to in order to pay the bills. 

 
Don't agree or disagree, see merit in the statement, but, aren't we too stupid to understand all that? God, I hope not, but Gruber may be right....
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Posted: Dec 5, 2014 - 1:46pm

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Even using the 70% claimed there thats still shows a majority of the jobs went to immigrants.

 
Because a lot of the jobs are either for the unskilled or the very skilled, and much of the US workforce persists in the moderately skilled sector. The labor market is changing, and too many Americans aren't changing with it: they want those factory jobs that are done by robots, or jobs in industries that are either fading or moving overseas.

I also think too many of us get wrapped up in the "job as identity" trap as opposed to "job as a means to an end". It's a lot easier to make changes if you start from the point that you are something other than doctor, engineer, foreman, whatever - you are what you do when you aren't at work, and all that working is just so you can pay the bills and be who you are. It's great if you can combine the two, and we should all try to do that, but at the end of the day you do what you have to in order to pay the bills. 
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Posted: Dec 5, 2014 - 1:34pm

 winter wrote:

Perhaps not so much.

 
Even using the 70% claimed there thats still shows a majority of the jobs went to immigrants.
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