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Posted: Oct 22, 2014 - 10:56am

When the lightbulb went on sometime in 2009 for me after voting for him, this is what I have seen since.   Most so called liberals and conservatives refuse to see this or maybe they see it but it does not fit into their partisan agenda or paradigm:

Obama Is a Republican

Excerpt from article:

    One of Obama’s first decisions after the election was to keep national-security policy essentially on automatic pilot from the Bush administration. He signaled this by announcing on November 25, 2008, that he planned to keep Robert M. Gates on as secretary of defense. Arguably, Gates had more to do with determining Republican policy on foreign and defense policy between the two Bush presidents than any other individual, serving successively as deputy national security adviser in the White House, director of Central Intelligence, and secretary of defense.

Another early indication of Obama’s hawkishness was naming his rival for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Hillary Clinton, as secretary of state. During the campaign, Clinton ran well to his right on foreign policy, so much so that she earned the grudging endorsement of prominent neoconservatives such as Bill Kristol and David Brooks.

Obama, Kristol told the Washington Post in August 2007, “is becoming the antiwar candidate, and Hillary Clinton is becoming the responsible Democrat who could become commander in chief in a post-9/11 world.” Writing in the New York Times on February 5, 2008, Brooks praised Clinton for hanging tough on Iraq “through the dark days of 2005.”

Right-wing columnist Ann Coulter found Clinton more acceptable on national-security policy than even the eventual Republican nominee, Senator McCain. Clinton, Coulter told Fox’s Sean Hannity on January 31, 2008, was “more conservative than he is. I think she would be stronger in the war on terrorism.” Coulter even said she would campaign for Clinton over McCain in a general election match up.

After Obama named Clinton secretary of state, there was “a deep sigh” of relief among Republicans throughout Washington, according to reporting by The Daily Beast’s John Batchelor. He noted that not a single Republican voiced any public criticism of her appointment.

By 2011, Republicans were so enamored with Clinton’s support for their policies that Dick Cheney even suggested publicly that she run against Obama in 2012. The irony is that as secretary of state, Clinton was generally well to Obama’s left, according to Vali Nasr’s book The Dispensable Nation. This may simply reflect her assumption of state’s historical role as the dovish voice in every administration. Or it could mean that Obama is far more hawkish than conservatives have given him credit for.




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Posted: Oct 21, 2014 - 12:30pm

 kurtster wrote:

My bad, I thought I saw a 30% number mentioned below.  It was 300,000.  Didn't have my glasses on.  I stand corrected.

The main point remains, that AIDS is an STD vs Ebola, which is not.  That and the times and the length of time for the discovery of AIDS.  30 years ago, gay men and IV drug users were held in very low regard by most people period.  The times have changed about gay men, but not IV drug users.

If my main point is not valid say so and I will move on to something else.  Just trying to add some lacking perspective and nothing more. 

 
You didn't break your glasses by putting them on with one hand, did you?  I'm going to have to tell your optometrist.


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Posted: Oct 21, 2014 - 12:26pm

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I'm not sure where your numbers are from; WHO estimates the overall mortality rate of Ebola patients around 50%.  In the years 1981-87 the mortality rate for AIDS patients was over 95%, from 1988-92 it ticked down to over 89%.  Even from 1981-2000 to mortality rate was over 57%.  The point of that meme was that during Reagan's era, gays were not held in high regard, especially by the President, so they essentially ignored the disease.  The present Administration has not been ignoring ebola.

 
My bad, I thought I saw a 30% number mentioned below.  It was 300,000.  Didn't have my glasses on.  I stand corrected.

The main point remains, that AIDS is an STD vs Ebola, which is not.  That and the times and the length of time for the discovery of AIDS.  30 years ago, gay men and IV drug users were held in very low regard by most people period.  The times have changed about gay men, but not IV drug users.

If my main point is not valid say so and I will move on to something else.  Just trying to add some lacking perspective and nothing more. 
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Posted: Oct 21, 2014 - 12:25pm

In addition to Proclivities' post it is shown that Ebola has dramatically spiked in 2014 from sporadic dozens of cases per year in isolated areas of W. Africa to what we have today.  While the disease was previously known, it was not epidemic by most measures of the word.  Ebola can be a STD, while HIV is not always so, even if you also exclude IV users.


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Posted: Oct 21, 2014 - 12:17pm

 kurtster wrote:
Maybe its just me ...

AIDS was newly discovered in Reagan's days.  The discovery of Ebola predates Reagan IIRC.

Are we comparing the response of a newly discovered disease some 30 years ago with the response today to a disease that has been known for over 30 years and taking into consideration the changes and advances in medical care in the past 30 or so years ?  
  
 AIDS is basically an STD with back in Reagan's days as mentioned below with a 30% mortality rate.  Ebola is not an STD with a mortality rate of about 70%.

AIDS primarily affected gay men and IV drug users, neither class of people held in high regard back in the day.

Safe sex and clean needles took care of AIDS for the most part.  A simple condom is not going to prevent the spread of Ebola.

 Apples and oranges rocks.


 
I'm not sure where your numbers are from; WHO estimates the overall mortality rate of Ebola patients around 50%.  In the years 1981-87 the US mortality rate for AIDS patients was over 95%, from 1988-92 it ticked down to over 89%.  Even from 1981-2000 to mortality rate was over 57%. Though that CDC page does say it has not been maintained.  The point of that meme was that during Reagan's era, gays were not held in high regard, especially by the President, so he essentially ignored the disease.  The present Administration has not been ignoring ebola.


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Posted: Oct 21, 2014 - 11:45am

Maybe its just me ...

AIDS was newly discovered in Reagan's days.  The discovery of Ebola predates Reagan IIRC.

Are we comparing the response of a newly discovered disease some 30 years ago with the response today to a disease that has been known for over 30 years and taking into consideration the changes and advances in medical care in the past 30 or so years ?  
  
 AIDS is basically an STD with back in Reagan's days as mentioned below with a 30% mortality rate.  Ebola is not an STD with a mortality rate of about 70%.

AIDS primarily affected gay men and IV drug users, neither class of people held in high regard back in the day.  Lesbians had the lowest rate of transmission of all sexual orientations.

Safe sex and clean needles took care of AIDS for the most part.  A simple condom is not going to prevent the spread of Ebola.

 Apples and oranges rocks.



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Posted: Oct 21, 2014 - 4:53am

 Red_Dragon wrote:


 

White House Press Briefing — Oct. 15, 1982

Q: Larry, does the President have any reaction to the announcement—the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, that AIDS is now an epidemic and have over 600 cases? MR. SPEAKES: What’s AIDS? Q: Over a third of them have died. It’s known as “gay plague.” (Laughter.) No, it is. I mean it’s a pretty serious thing that one in every three people that get this have died. And I wondered if the President is aware of it? MR. SPEAKES: I don’t have it. Do you? (Laughter.) Q: No, I don’t. MR. SPEAKES: You didn’t answer my question. Q: Well, I just wondered, does the President— MR. SPEAKES: How do you know? (Laughter.) Q: In other words, the White House looks on this as a great joke? MR. SPEAKES: No, I don’t know anything about it, Lester. Q: Does the President, does anybody in the White House know about this epidemic, Larry? MR. SPEAKES: I don’t think so. I don’t think there’s been any— Q: Nobody knows? MR. SPEAKES: There has been no personal experience here, Lester. Q: No, I mean, I thought you were keeping— MR. SPEAKES: I checked thoroughly with Dr. Ruge this morning and he’s had no—(laughter)—no patients suffering from AIDS or whatever it is. Q: The President doesn’t have gay plague, is that what you’re saying or what? MR. SPEAKES: No, I didn’t say that. Q: Didn’t say that? MR. SPEAKES: I thought I heard you on the State Department over there. Why didn’t you stay there? (Laughter.) Q: Because I love you, Larry, that’s why. (Laughter.) MR. SPEAKES: Oh, I see. Just don’t put it in those terms, Lester. (Laughter.) Q: Oh, I retract that. MR. SPEAKES: I hope so. Q: It’s too late.

White House Press Briefing — June 13, 1983

Q: Larry, does the President think that it might help if he suggested that the gays cut down on their “cruising”? (Laughter.) What? I didn’t hear your answer, Larry. MR. SPEAKES: I just was acknowledging your interest— Q: You were acknowledging but— MR. SPEAKES: —interest in this subject. Q: —you don’t think that it would help if the gays cut down on their cruising—it would help AIDS? MR. SPEAKES: We are researching it. If we come up with any research that sheds some light on whether gays should cruise or not cruise, we’ll make it available to you. (Laughter.) Q: Back to fairy tales.

White House Press Briefing — Dec. 11, 1984

MR. SPEAKES: Lester’s beginning to circle now. He’s moving in front. (Laughter.) Go ahead. Q: Since the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta—(laughter)—reports— MR. SPEAKES: This is going to be an AIDS question. Q: —that an estimated— MR. SPEAKES: You were close. Q: Well, look, could I ask the question, Larry? MR. SPEAKES: You were close. Q: An estimated 300,000 people have been exposed to AIDS, which can be transmitted through saliva. Will the President, as Commander-in-Chief, take steps to protect Armed Forces food and medical services from AIDS patients or those who run the risk of spreading AIDS in the same manner that they forbid typhoid fever people from being involved in the health or food services? MR. SPEAKES: I don’t know. Q: Could you—Is the President concerned about this subject, Larry— MR. SPEAKES: I haven’t heard him express— Q: —that seems to have evoked so much jocular— MR. SPEAKES:—concern. Q: —reaction here? I—you know— Q: It isn’t only the jocks, Lester. Q: Has he sworn off water faucets— Q: No, but, I mean, is he going to do anything, Larry? MR. SPEAKES: Lester, I have not heard him express anything on it. Sorry. Q: You mean he has no—expressed no opinion about this epidemic? MR. SPEAKES: No, but I must confess I haven’t asked him about it. (Laughter.) Q: Would you ask him Larry? MR. SPEAKES: Have you been checked? (Laughter.)


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Posted: Oct 21, 2014 - 2:15am

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Throwing in the zen emoticon at the end of that is an amazing amount of irony.
Of course, Zen and other Buddhist philosophy centers itself in non-judgement and non-attachment. You've done the exact opposite.
But, what I love about Zen is its sense of humor.

So thanks for the laugh!

 
Happy to be of service ... 

Yeah, it is all just a joke in the end innit ?  Dint know the meditate emoticon was so specific.  I thought it meant more like Peace, out ... but what do I know ?  I'm just a confused libertarian conservatard type who is not fit for civilization a politically correct world.


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Posted: Oct 20, 2014 - 10:46pm

 kurtster wrote:
I see you playing Dr Phil with a pitiful persona.  Your demeanor has been that someone with the views I have is only worthy of pity rather than exchanging ideas on topic. 

{#Meditate} 

 
Throwing in the zen emoticon at the end of that is an amazing amount of irony.
Of course, Zen and other Buddhist philosophy centers itself in non-judgement and non-attachment. You've done the exact opposite.
But, what I love about Zen is its sense of humor.

So thanks for the laugh!


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Posted: Oct 17, 2014 - 6:23pm

There are none so blind as those who will not see....
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Posted: Oct 17, 2014 - 4:09pm

 islander wrote:

I'm questioning your need to turn every single topic into a referendum on Obama or a chance to throw shit at the walls and chaff in the air.  I think he has very little to do with preparedness at the local level and I think the whole furor over Ebola is more about ratings than awareness. The outcry for seasonal flu shots is barely heard, and there is an active campaign against them, but they kill thousands EVERY year like clockwork. The whole thing has me just scratching my head.

As to the senate, I think the Dems are doing all they can to lose it - it's the smart political move. I think the republicans just woke up and realized "oh shit, we might win the senate" and are really regretting the spot it will put them in for the next two years.  Hillary is doing a little jig right now.

But none of these people have your or my interests at heart. They don't care about us, our careers, our families, our struggles or our hopes. We are as distant to them as the lone Somali pirate is to us.

I took the occasion to try and interact with you normally again. And although it's been relatively civil I feel I've missed the mark I was shooting for.  I don't think you are getting much out of it either. So I'll bid you farewell again for now. See you around the threads, watch out for the steel breeze. 

 
Yes it has been civil.  I've already dealt with the steel breeze in my life over 30 years ago.  I managed to overcome it all by myself, thank you.

This has been only the second time during the past couple of days where you have actually offered any thoughts on matters politic and how it plays or might play out.  The rest of the time I see you playing Dr Phil with a pitiful persona.  Your demeanor has been that someone with the views I have is only worthy of pity rather than exchanging ideas on topic. 

Remember, message sent is not always message received.  I and no one else is immune from that.

{#Meditate} 
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Posted: Oct 17, 2014 - 3:21pm

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You're right about that.  There is no conspiracy I'm offering up for anyone's consideration.

Its just plain politics.  This appointment is pure politics on Obama's part.  If you see it as picking the most qualified individual to direct this crisis devoid of any politics, say so.

I really do believe that Obama is more concerned about saving the Senate right now than dealing with Ebola.  And you think that anyone who comes to the same conclusion is engaging in conspiracy theory ?

This pick is pure damage control in that regard.  Does this guy being put in charge make you feel any safer, more confident that things will be handled better than before ?  Yeah he hasn't started yet, but yes he has cuz he's been around for decades running election campaigns and doing damage control.  That what he does best.

Don't try and spin this as a CT.  You'd be one of the few at this point to think so. Except for those who still don't question anything Obama does and would vote for a third term if they could.

We just seem to trust different people I guess. Ce la vie or however it goes.
 
FWIW, you're questioning me more than Obama.  You have expressed no reservations about Obama's handling of this matter.  

 
I'm questioning your need to turn every single topic into a referendum on Obama or a chance to throw shit at the walls and chaff in the air.  I think he has very little to do with preparedness at the local level and I think the whole furor over Ebola is more about ratings than awareness. The outcry for seasonal flu shots is barely heard, and there is an active campaign against them, but they kill thousands EVERY year like clockwork. The whole thing has me just scratching my head.

As to the senate, I think the Dems are doing all they can to lose it - it's the smart political move. I think the republicans just woke up and realized "oh shit, we might win the senate" and are really regretting the spot it will put them in for the next two years.  Hillary is doing a little jig right now.

But none of these people have your or my interests at heart. They don't care about us, our careers, our families, our struggles or our hopes. We are as distant to them as the lone Somali pirate is to us.

I took the occasion to try and interact with you normally again. And although it's been relatively civil I feel I've missed the mark I was shooting for.  I don't think you are getting much out of it either. So I'll bid you farewell again for now. See you around the threads, watch out for the steel breeze. 
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Posted: Oct 17, 2014 - 2:51pm

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You may think you are blowing off steam. But with the layer of scum that exists, you wind up stirring up a froth.

This isn't about R vs. D. This isn't about liberal vs. conservative. This isn't about the validity of a conspiracy. This is about basic consideration and how you deal with people. You used to be fun to be around, you are not anymore. Your subsequent post here {#Arrowd} is just the latest example. Relax, step back, get a grip. You've become the Syd Barrett to our Pink Floyd. Wish you were here.

 
You're right about that.  There is no conspiracy I'm offering up for anyone's consideration.

Its just plain politics.  This appointment is pure politics on Obama's part.  If you see it as picking the most qualified individual to direct this crisis devoid of any politics, say so.

I really do believe that Obama is more concerned about saving the Senate right now than dealing with Ebola.  And you think that anyone who comes to the same conclusion is engaging in conspiracy theory ?

This pick is pure damage control in that regard.  Does this guy being put in charge make you feel any safer, more confident that things will be handled better than before ?  Yeah he hasn't started yet, but yes he has cuz he's been around for decades running election campaigns and doing damage control.  That what he does best.

Don't try and spin this as a CT.  You'd be one of the few at this point to think so. Except for those who still don't question anything Obama does and would vote for a third term if they could.

We just seem to trust different people I guess. Ce la vie or however it goes.
 
FWIW, you're questioning me more than Obama.  You have expressed no reservations about Obama's handling of this matter.  
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Posted: Oct 17, 2014 - 12:17pm

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Ok, we pretty much agree on the "game".

and on the bolded, that is my overall game plan, despite my rhetoric.  I even offer the same advice to others.  and yes, I admit to its occasional excessive use.  Its part of blowing it out of my system, so it does not eat me from within.

On the other hand, I tend to interpret silence as acceptance and complacency.  This latest chain of events that I have participated in was only started after helenofjoy  wondered aloud why there was no discussion on the current events regarding Ebola.  The ensuing discussions focused on hazmat suits and water quality.  Since that was the extent of it, I decided to kick it up several notches and deal with the immediate and more important aspects of how it is impacting us here in the states and our reactions to date.  Infrastructure in Africa while it is a contributor to the conditions that bring disease about, it has little to do with what is happening here.

So, I brought up a laundry list of events and background on the subject and get embroiled in a debate over the veracity of a report initialized by a union instead.  I rebutted it, yet the person who started that tangent has not responded to my most recent answer to his question that I take is to deconstruct the discussion rather than move it along. ( So did I satisfactorily address how real our nursing shortage is Mr expertTexpert ?  Or were you just interested in making me chase my tail ? )

Otherwise, I have been rather quiet politically, not starting anything, but reacting to others who initiate.  So do keep that in mind.

But back on topic, Ebola and Obama, Obama's reactions have been more scary than the Ebola itself.  I'm not going around buying gloves and masks and telling anyone else to stock up.  Yet, several schools and stores within spitting distance have been closed down the past several days.  There are many people here under quarantine.  The Cleveland Public Health Department has activated their emergency division.  No one here is panicking, yet I will be watching and listening to things like retail traffic to see if people are altering their lives, despite their rhetoric.  

The lying about our government's preparedness has been completely exposed, so there is legitimate reason to criticize Obama and including his supporters who blindly go along with this charade.  I do not include you in that group, btw.  This would be the proper place for that criticism within RP.

This is pretty much out of my system like I said below somewhere, yet it has hit home and yes I am watching the incubation clock tick here in Cleveburg and Dallas.  

Other than that, all that I'm watching now is to see whether or not the Senate flips, which I hope it does and Harry Reid is made to sit down and get out of the way.

 

 
You may think you are blowing off steam. But with the layer of scum that exists, you wind up stirring up a froth.

This isn't about R vs. D. This isn't about liberal vs. conservative. This isn't about the validity of a conspiracy. This is about basic consideration and how you deal with people. You used to be fun to be around, you are not anymore. Your subsequent post here {#Arrowd} is just the latest example. Relax, step back, get a grip. You've become the Syd Barrett to our Pink Floyd. Wish you were here.
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Posted: Oct 17, 2014 - 12:03pm

Yeah, just had to ...

We have an official Ebola Czar !  

Sadly, just the kind of political hack / attorney with zero medical background I expected.  Just checking off another box, running spin and damage control, thinking of elections and not us.

 Ronald A. "Ron" Klain is an American lawyer and political operative best known for serving as Chief of Staff to two Vice Presidents - Al Gore (1995–1999) and Joseph Biden (2009–2011). He is an influential Democratic Party insider. Earlier in his career, he was a law clerk for Supreme Court Justice Byron "Whizzer" White during the Court's 1987 and 1988 Terms and worked on Capitol Hill, where he was Chief Counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee during the Clarence Thomas Supreme Court nomination. He was portrayed by Kevin Spacey in the HBO film Recount depicting the tumult of the 2000 presidential election. On October 17, 2014, President Obama named Klain the newly created "Ebola Czar".

His law firm ...

I would have picked someone with prior hands on real world medical crisis experience such as this guy ...

Col. James R. Andrews

But I know how much Obama hates the military so it couldn't ever happen ...  yeah, I had to say that ...

And no I have not seen this guy's name mentioned anywhere.  I just went and searched for who ran the elite military medical operations and this is who's name popped up.  You'd think Obama or someone else might have thought the same way ...

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Posted: Oct 17, 2014 - 9:42am

 islander wrote:

I'm pretty sure it's called 'screw the little guy'. It's a group of moneyed elite that have used the success of government to turn half this country against the other half. Once they had them distracted they went to work fleecing the next generation while villainizing 'the other guys'. 

I used to think that it was time to change the system from within. But then I got around to connecting some dots and realized the numbers just weren't there yet. So I still do my part and vote conscious every single time. I don't vote from spite or anger, but from hope and eternal optimism. I realize we are not there yet, but I have hope that a good number of people will eventually tire of the spittle and vitriol soaked floor and join the good fight.  Until then I choose to not play the game of hate that politics has become (too bad, I used to really like the idea of debate and discussion). I spend my time working with people and groups who have a positive impact on the world. I do things that make me happy and avoid those that make me unhappy. Things tend to work out better when I follow this path.

You're good at putting things together. Look around. Figure it out. Do what you see the happy / successful people doing. Don't do what you see the angry mopey people doing. I'd love to welcome you back to the fold. 

 
Ok, we pretty much agree on the "game".

and on the bolded, that is my overall game plan, despite my rhetoric.  I even offer the same advice to others.  and yes, I admit to its occasional excessive use.  Its part of blowing it out of my system, so it does not eat me from within.

On the other hand, I tend to interpret silence as acceptance and complacency.  This latest chain of events that I have participated in was only started after helenofjoy  wondered aloud why there was no discussion on the current events regarding Ebola.  The ensuing discussions focused on hazmat suits and water quality.  Since that was the extent of it, I decided to kick it up several notches and deal with the immediate and more important aspects of how it is impacting us here in the states and our reactions to date.  Infrastructure in Africa while it is a contributor to the conditions that bring disease about, it has little to do with what is happening here.

So, I brought up a laundry list of events and background on the subject and get embroiled in a debate over the veracity of a report initialized by a union instead.  I rebutted it, yet the person who started that tangent has not responded to my most recent answer to his question that I take is to deconstruct the discussion rather than move it along. ( So did I satisfactorily address how real our nursing shortage is Mr expertTexpert ?  Or were you just interested in making me chase my tail ? )

Otherwise, I have been rather quiet politically, not starting anything, but reacting to others who initiate.  So do keep that in mind.

But back on topic, Ebola and Obama, Obama's reactions have been more scary than the Ebola itself.  I'm not going around buying gloves and masks and telling anyone else to stock up.  Yet, several schools and stores within spitting distance have been closed down the past several days.  There are many people here under quarantine.  The Cleveland Public Health Department has activated their emergency division.  No one here is panicking, yet I will be watching and listening to things like retail traffic to see if people are altering their lives, despite their rhetoric.  

The lying about our government's preparedness has been completely exposed, so there is legitimate reason to criticize Obama and including his supporters who blindly go along with this charade.  I do not include you in that group, btw.  This would be the proper place for that criticism within RP.

This is pretty much out of my system like I said below somewhere, yet it has hit home and yes I am watching the incubation clock tick here in Cleveburg and Dallas.  

Other than that, all that I'm watching now is to see whether or not the Senate flips, which I hope it does and Harry Reid is made to sit down and get out of the way.

 
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Posted: Oct 17, 2014 - 8:19am

 islander wrote:
Until then I choose to not play the game of hate that politics has become (too bad, I used to really like the idea of debate and discussion). I spend my time working with people and groups who have a positive impact on the world. I do things that make me happy and avoid those that make me unhappy. Things tend to work out better when I follow this path.
 

{#Bananajam}
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Posted: Oct 17, 2014 - 7:27am

 islander wrote:

I'm pretty sure it's called 'screw the little guy'. It's a group of moneyed elite that have used the success of government to turn half this country against the other half. Once they had them distracted they went to work fleecing the next generation while villainizing 'the other guys'. 

I used to think that it was time to change the system from within. But then I got around to connecting some dots and realized the numbers just weren't there yet. So I still do my part and vote conscious every single time. I don't vote from spite or anger, but from hope and eternal optimism. I realize we are not there yet, but I have hope that a good number of people will eventually tire of the spittle and vitriol soaked floor and join the good fight.  Until then I choose to not play the game of hate that politics has become (too bad, I used to really like the idea of debate and discussion). I spend my time working with people and groups who have a positive impact on the world. I do things that make me happy and avoid those that make me unhappy. Things tend to work out better when I follow this path.
 

That's pretty much how I sees it too.{#Yes}
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Posted: Oct 17, 2014 - 7:11am

 kurtster wrote:

I just got to back up the bus.  This went right over my tired, feeble little brain last night.

Just what exactly is this game you refer to and who is in charge ? 

Please elaborate. 

 
I'm pretty sure it's called 'screw the little guy'. It's a group of moneyed elite that have used the success of government to turn half this country against the other half. Once they had them distracted they went to work fleecing the next generation while villainizing 'the other guys'. 

I used to think that it was time to change the system from within. But then I got around to connecting some dots and realized the numbers just weren't there yet. So I still do my part and vote conscious every single time. I don't vote from spite or anger, but from hope and eternal optimism. I realize we are not there yet, but I have hope that a good number of people will eventually tire of the spittle and vitriol soaked floor and join the good fight.  Until then I choose to not play the game of hate that politics has become (too bad, I used to really like the idea of debate and discussion). I spend my time working with people and groups who have a positive impact on the world. I do things that make me happy and avoid those that make me unhappy. Things tend to work out better when I follow this path.

You're good at putting things together. Look around. Figure it out. Do what you see the happy / successful people doing. Don't do what you see the angry mopey people doing. I'd love to welcome you back to the fold. 
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