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Posted: Jun 30, 2015 - 5:30am

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Is this where I'm supposed to say:

USA !   USA !!   USA !!!   ????

A pack a day smoker in NYC pays $2190 per year in cigarette taxes (6 X 365) and gets absolutely nothing in return.  Nationwide, smokers pay over $100 billion per year in direct cigarette taxes and get absolutely nothing in return.

USA  USA  USA ... 
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Posted: Jun 30, 2015 - 2:23am

Butting in: NYC mayor wants to stop smoking in private homes


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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 10:24am

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Yeah, I know what you mean.  Most regulations were probably rooted in logical, reasonable needs, but some seem pretty bizarre when looked at closely, and odd ones do try to creep in sometimes.  California's assault on cigarette smoking is often absurd - why regale in legalization of pot if there's no place to smoke it?

 
Thanks for the acknowledgement.

I added this to my post after your reply ...

 So personal property rights as well as free will are being attacked. The property owner can no longer rent out their unit unless he / she quits smoking, even if a non smoker is willing to move in knowing that a smoker lives next door.

I truly think that this is a big deal.


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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 10:20am

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My point is to think about how much is regulated versus what isn't.

Things are creeping and creeping into our lives.  Once a precedent is established ...  The privacy of your own home is no longer sacrosanct with legal activities. 

Here's one example ...

 California City Bans Smoking at Home

By definition, if you own a duplex and smoke and rent out the other side to another smoker, you can no longer do that.

 
Yeah, I know what you mean.  Most regulations were probably rooted in logical, reasonable needs, but some seem pretty bizarre when looked at closely, and odd ones do try to creep in sometimes.  California's assault on cigarette smoking is often absurd - why regale in legalization of pot if there's no place to smoke it?
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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 10:08am

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That's why I refuse to live in California - well, that and their clocks are the wrong time (*kidding*).  I didn't mean to suggest that you had ulterior motives or that you are overly pessimistic.  I guess a lot of it is about perception sometimes, and lack of attention other times - on the part of individuals.  I'm sure you've met people over the years who always seemed pessimistic and miserable about "the rules" and others who seemed like naive, Pollyanna types.  Sure, I have to have some money and be over 21 to drink a beer, but that doesn't diminish my enjoyment of a beer.

 
My point is to think about how much is regulated versus what isn't.

Things are creeping and creeping into our lives.  Once a precedent is established ...  The privacy of your own home is no longer sacrosanct with legal activities. 

Here's one example ...

 California City Bans Smoking at Home

By definition, if you own a duplex and smoke and rent out the other side to another smoker, you can no longer do that.

So personal property rights as well as free will are being attacked.  The property owner can no longer rent out their unit unless he / she quits smoking, even if a non smoker is willing to move in knowing that a smoker lives next door.

I truly think that this is a big deal. 
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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 10:01am

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The IRS activities aren't regulated and neither are the NSA's.

 
Winner !!!!!
 
They are on paper, but that doesn't stop them ...
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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 10:00am

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The IRS activities aren't regulated and neither are the NSA's.

 

Nice one, Dave!{#Mrgreen}
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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 9:55am

The IRS activities aren't regulated and neither are the NSA's.
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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 9:54am

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Nope, I have no ulterior motives on this question.

Reading, sure one can read, use their 5 senses, etc.  How about bicycle riding ?  There are many cities that do not allow you to ride without a helmet for example.

And on sex ...  A New California Law Requires College Students To Give Consent Before Sex

 
That's why I refuse to live in California - well, that and their clocks are the wrong time (*kidding*).  I didn't mean to suggest that you had ulterior motives or that you are overly pessimistic.  I guess a lot of it is about perception sometimes, and lack of attention other times - on the part of individuals.  I'm sure you've met people over the years who always seemed pessimistic and miserable about "the rules" and others who seemed like naive, Pollyanna types.  Sure, I have to have some money and be over 21 to drink a beer, but that doesn't diminish my enjoyment of a beer.
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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 9:38am

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An integral aspect of regulating something often involves taxing it, right?

 

 
Absolutely !
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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 9:38am

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If that's how you want to view it.  
What about reading, drawing, writing, playing a musical instrument?  If you want to believe that those (and all) activities are regulated by some bureaucratic boogie-men then that's another issue.  Many people choose to construct their own prisons, some virtual inmates are proud of them.

 
Nope, I have no ulterior motives on this question.

Reading, sure one can read, use their 5 senses, etc.  How about bicycle riding ?  There are many cities that do not allow you to ride without a helmet for example.

And on sex ...  A New California Law Requires College Students To Give Consent Before Sex
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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 9:33am

An integral aspect of regulating something often involves taxing it, right?

 
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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 9:28am

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Nope, its probably one of the most codified and regulated.  By age, price, where, religion, etc.

This is a totally open question for which I do not have an answer that I am holding out.
 
If that's how you want to view it.  
What about reading, drawing, writing, playing a musical instrument?  If you want to believe that those (and all) activities are regulated by some bureaucratic boogie-men then that's another issue.  Obviously, there are rules just about everywhere, but some people choose to construct their own prisons, some virtual inmates are proud of them.
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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 9:19am

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Sex

 
Nope, its probably one of the most codified and regulated.  By age, price, where, religion, etc.

This is a totally open question for which I do not have an answer that I am holding out.

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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 9:16am

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Farting - But the EPA is working on that one.

 
That was the first thing that came to mind, but they are working on regulating cow farts as greenhouse gas emissions.
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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 9:16am

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Sex

 

Maybe not by everyone, but I know I regulate it and get cranky when the numbers aren't to my liking.{#Grumpy}{#Mrgreen}
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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 9:11am

 kurtster wrote:
Here is some food for thought ...

Name an activity which has not been codified or is unregulated ... 
 
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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 9:10am

 kurtster wrote:
Here is some food for thought ...

Name an activity which has not been codified or is unregulated ... 

 
Farting - But the EPA is working on that one.
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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 9:04am

Here is some food for thought ...

Name an activity which has not been codified or is unregulated ... 


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