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Posted: Apr 24, 2016 - 9:00am

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See? Just one more reason not to bathe.

 
...and one more reason not to drink shampoo.
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Posted: Apr 24, 2016 - 8:38am

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See? Just one more reason not to bathe.

 
How many do you need for FSM sake?  Here's another one for you.  Al, the guy you met at the Yankee's game, was a chemical buyer for a large manufacturer of shampoo and other cosmetics before like me giving up the shackles of employment to pursue a life of indolence and Cubs games.


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Posted: Apr 24, 2016 - 8:25am

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See? Just one more reason not to bathe.
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Posted: Apr 24, 2016 - 8:00am

 

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Posted: Mar 16, 2016 - 6:15am

This is a good thing.

 

The Department of Justice Throws Its Weight Behind Ending the Jailing of the Poor for Unpaid Fines

 

 https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/department-justice-throws-its-weight-behind-ending-jailing-poor-unpaid-fines


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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 - 9:31am


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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 - 7:58am

 sirdroseph wrote:

I saw this posted on FB and this sums it up nicely:

 

Long story short, what the FBI is asking Apple to do is the create a "fake" signed OS with a backdoor, something that currently doesn't exist in the world. Once this technology is created, it can be used as a backdoor to EVERY device currently running iOS.

It's also very important to note that this piece of technology doesn't currently exist. Apple literally will have to get a team of engineers to create it. Now once they have created this OS with a backdoor, there is nothing stopping other governments with less regards for human rights (China with regards to political dissidents, and many other countries that have capital punishment for homosexuality) , to demand Apple to install such OS on every single device sold in their country so that they can snoop on their citizens.

It's not about "opening" one device, it's about creating a master key that can open EVERY device. Once that backdoor has been created, there is no turning back.



 
So that article is from the '90's?
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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 - 6:37am

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Its probably a chain of custody problem where it could be claimed the FBI didn't have control over the process and the data recovered could be in question. Plus Apple doesn't want their customers thinking that their encrypted stuff can be decoded on a whim from the NSA or a judge.

 
I saw this posted on FB and this sums it up nicely:

 

Long story short, what the FBI is asking Apple to do is the create a "fake" signed OS with a backdoor, something that currently doesn't exist in the world. Once this technology is created, it can be used as a backdoor to EVERY device currently running iOS.

It's also very important to note that this piece of technology doesn't currently exist. Apple literally will have to get a team of engineers to create it. Now once they have created this OS with a backdoor, there is nothing stopping other governments with less regards for human rights (China with regards to political dissidents, and many other countries that have capital punishment for homosexuality) , to demand Apple to install such OS on every single device sold in their country so that they can snoop on their citizens.

It's not about "opening" one device, it's about creating a master key that can open EVERY device. Once that backdoor has been created, there is no turning back.




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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 - 6:15am

 DaveInVA wrote:

Its probably a chain of custody problem where it could be claimed the FBI didn't have control over the process and the data recovered could be in question. Plus Apple doesn't want their customers thinking that their encrypted stuff can be decoded on a whim from the NSA or a judge.

 
Good points. I hadn't thought about the chain of custody issue.
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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 - 6:07am

 olivertwist wrote:

From the letter:

"In today’s digital world, the “key” to an encrypted system is a piece of information that unlocks the data, and it is only as secure as the protections around it. Once the information is known, or a way to bypass the code is revealed, the encryption can be defeated by anyone with that knowledge."

I'm a tech and legal novice, but couldn't a compromise be reached in which Apple uses its technological expertise to unlock this specific phone, but doesn't provide the solution to the FBI, thus protecting the privacy of iPhone users?

 
Its probably a chain of custody problem where it could be claimed the FBI didn't have control over the process and the data recovered could be in question. Plus Apple doesn't want their customers thinking that their encrypted stuff can be decoded on a whim from the NSA or a judge.
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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 - 6:02am

 olivertwist wrote:

From the letter:

"In today’s digital world, the “key” to an encrypted system is a piece of information that unlocks the data, and it is only as secure as the protections around it. Once the information is known, or a way to bypass the code is revealed, the encryption can be defeated by anyone with that knowledge."

I'm a tech and legal novice, but couldn't a compromise be reached in which Apple uses its technological expertise to unlock this specific phone, but doesn't provide the solution to the FBI, thus protecting the privacy of iPhone users?

 
I wondered the same thing, but there must not be because I have not even heard anything like that mentioned and you would think this would be a no brainer.
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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 - 5:51am

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From the letter:

"In today’s digital world, the “key” to an encrypted system is a piece of information that unlocks the data, and it is only as secure as the protections around it. Once the information is known, or a way to bypass the code is revealed, the encryption can be defeated by anyone with that knowledge."

I'm a tech and legal novice, but couldn't a compromise be reached in which Apple uses its technological expertise to unlock this specific phone, but doesn't provide the solution to the FBI, thus protecting the privacy of iPhone users?
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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 - 5:08am

 haresfur wrote:

 
Fighting the good fight though their passion is more commensurate with the potential damage to their bottom line than the chivalrous act of protecting their customers civil liberties. Nevertheless the cause is extremely important and let's be thankful that it is the market that demands encryption because quite frankly that is the only saving grace we have to stem the tide of "patriotism".{#Rolleyes}

 

Edit: I would love for this to be a question posed to all candidates running for office during both parties debates; this is a great litmus test to where they stand on the importance of civil liberties in relation to our Constitution and Bill of Rights.  I know one candidate who has certainly revealed his hand and perhaps his ignorance when weighing in on this issue:

 

http://www.hackbusters.com/news/stories/535819-donald-trump-on-apple-who-do-they-think-they-are-cnet


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Posted: Feb 17, 2016 - 1:59pm

http://www.apple.com/customer-letter/
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Posted: Aug 10, 2015 - 6:49am

The reason I posted this in this thread is because it is a window into the true oligarchy moreso than a story on Clinton:
BREAKING: Hillary Clinton Destroyed Communications Connecting State Dept. To ISIS Leader
 
Above: Current ISIS leader of Libya, Abdelhakim Belhadj receiving an award from Senator Richard Bumenthal, Senator John McCain, and Senator Lindsey Graham. It should be noted that this photo took place at a time when all three senators knew Belhadj had direct ties with the very militant groups that helped create and then carry out, the September 11th, 2001 attacks. Within months of this photo being taken, Belhadj oversaw the murders by ISIS of 21 Coptic Christians in Libya. He has since implemented Sharia Law throughout much of Libya and is utterly devoted to promoting ISIS throughout not only the Middle East, but the world. 


Above: Then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton poses with Libyan militants in October of 2011, shortly after the overthrow of that nation’s long ruling dictator, Moammar Gadhafi. One year later would see the death of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans after an attack upon an American consulate in Benghazi by Islamic militants similar to the ones Mrs. Clinton is seen posing with above.
   
   A D.C. Whispers source had this to say regarding the incestuous relationship between the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton, and certain Republican members of Congress:

“The real reason so little has been said regarding the Clinton email scandal is that some of those emails implicated some very powerful figures around here. From top Republicans, to Mrs. Clinton, to the most senior members of the Obama White House. By destroying the evidence, Hillary Clinton was not only protecting herself, but the White House and certain Republicans in both the House and the Senate. The Libya/Benghazi grave is very wide, very deep, and there’s too much power vested in its continued cover-up. There were communications that made clear the links between the administration and the same Islamic militants who are now ISIS in Libya. Money and weapons continue to be be funneled from Libya to Syria and Iraq. The word has gone out to anyone who makes a serious attempt to get to the bottom of this scandal – LEAVE IT ALONE or it might just be more than your career that is terminated.”




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Posted: Jul 10, 2015 - 7:50am

Busy Soccer Mom Renewed Dog Tags Late — And Police Responded By Doing THIS?


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Posted: Jun 30, 2015 - 5:30am

 sirdroseph wrote: 
Is this where I'm supposed to say:

USA !   USA !!   USA !!!   ????

A pack a day smoker in NYC pays $2190 per year in cigarette taxes (6 X 365) and gets absolutely nothing in return.  Nationwide, smokers pay over $100 billion per year in direct cigarette taxes and get absolutely nothing in return.

USA  USA  USA ... 
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Posted: Jun 30, 2015 - 2:23am

Butting in: NYC mayor wants to stop smoking in private homes


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Posted: Apr 7, 2015 - 12:15pm

Texas Man Serving 17 Days in Jail for Overgrown Lawn.
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Posted: Feb 13, 2015 - 10:24am

 Proclivities wrote:

Yeah, I know what you mean.  Most regulations were probably rooted in logical, reasonable needs, but some seem pretty bizarre when looked at closely, and odd ones do try to creep in sometimes.  California's assault on cigarette smoking is often absurd - why regale in legalization of pot if there's no place to smoke it?

 
Thanks for the acknowledgement.

I added this to my post after your reply ...

 So personal property rights as well as free will are being attacked. The property owner can no longer rent out their unit unless he / she quits smoking, even if a non smoker is willing to move in knowing that a smoker lives next door.

I truly think that this is a big deal.


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