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Posted: Aug 26, 2014 - 2:55pm

'Google-like' search engine puts NSA snooping back in the spotlight


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Posted: Aug 14, 2014 - 12:37am

Edward Snowden: The Untold Story | Threat Level | WIRED/Bamford

(...) And there’s another prospect that further complicates matters: Some of the revelations attributed to Snowden may not in fact have come from him but from another leaker spilling secrets under Snowden’s name. Snowden himself adamantly refuses to address this possibility on the record. But independent of my visit to Snowden, I was given unrestricted access to his cache of documents in various locations. And going through this archive using a sophisticated digital search tool, I could not find some of the documents that have made their way into public view, leading me to conclude that there must be a second leaker somewhere. I’m not alone in reaching that conclusion. Both Greenwald and security expert Bruce Schneier—who have had extensive access to the cache—have publicly stated that they believe another whistle-blower is releasing secret documents to the media.

In fact, on the first day of my Moscow interview with Snowden, the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel comes out with a long story about the NSA’s operations in Germany and its cooperation with the German intelligence agency, BND. Among the documents the magazine releases is a top-secret “Memorandum of Agreement” between the NSA and the BND from 2002. “It is not from Snowden’s material,” the magazine notes.

Some have even raised doubts about whether the infamous revelation that the NSA was tapping German chancellor Angela Merkel’s cell phone, long attributed to Snowden, came from his trough. At the time of that revelation, Der Spiegel simply attributed the information to Snowden and other unnamed sources. If other leakers exist within the NSA, it would be more than another nightmare for the agency—it would underscore its inability to control its own information and might indicate that Snowden’s rogue protest of government overreach has inspired others within the intelligence community. “They still haven’t fixed their problems,” Snowden says. “They still have negligent auditing, they still have things going for a walk, and they have no idea where they’re coming from and they have no idea where they’re going. And if that’s the case, how can we as the public trust the NSA with all of our information, with all of our private records, the permanent record of our lives?” (...)


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Posted: Aug 12, 2014 - 10:46am

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I remember yelling at the radio when I heard that report, such BS from a "supposed" objective news source.{#Rolleyes}
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Posted: Aug 12, 2014 - 10:37am

NPR Is Laundering CIA Talking Points to Make You Scared of NSA Reporting - The Intercept
(...) With this report, Temple-Raston seriously misled NPR’s millions of listeners. To begin with, Recorded Future, the outfit that produced the government-affirming report, is anything but independent. To the contrary, it is funded by the CIA and U.S. intelligence community with millions of dollars. Back in 2010, it also filed forms to become a vendor for the NSA. (In response to questions from The Intercept, the company’s vice president Jason Hines refused to say whether it works for the NSA, telling us that we should go FOIA that information if we want to know. But according to public reports, Recorded Future “earns most of its revenue from selling to Wall Street quants and intelligence agencies.”)

The connection between Recorded Future and the U.S. intelligence community is long known. Back in July, 2010, Wired‘s Noah Shachtman revealed that the company is backed by both “the investment arms of the CIA and Google.”

Indeed, In-Q-Tel—the deep-pocket investment arm of both the CIA and other intelligence agencies (including the NSA)—has seats on Recorded Future’s board of directors and, on its website, lists Recorded Future as one of the companies in its “portfolio.” In stark contrast to NPR, The New York Times noted these connections when reporting on the firm in 2011: “Recorded Future is financed with $8 million from the likes of Google’s venture arm and In-Q-Tel, which makes investments to benefit the United States intelligence community, and its clients have included government agencies and banks.” (...)

The Recorded Future “report”—which was actually nothing more than a short blog post—is designed to bolster the year-long fear-mongering campaign of U.S. and British officials arguing that terrorists would realize the need to hide their communications and develop effective means of doing so by virtue of the Snowden reporting. Predictably, former NSA General Counsel Stewart Baker promptly seized on the report (still concealing the firm’s CIA connections from readers) to argue in The Washington Post that “the evidence is mounting that Edward Snowden and his journalist allies have helped al-Qaeda improve their security against NSA surveillance.” (...)


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Posted: Aug 9, 2014 - 5:26pm

The meta memory hole...
NSA Tried To Delete Court Transcript In Lawsuit Over Deleting Evidence - Yahoo News
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Posted: Aug 8, 2014 - 2:26pm

Beyond Torture: The CIA's Shameful Kidnapping of a 12-Year-Old Girl
The U.S. and U.K. collaborated to snatch Khadija al-Saadi's family in Hong Kong and deliver them into the custody of a murderous dictator.

 The interior of a prison in Tripoli, Libya, where a rendered prisoner was eventually held. (Anis Mili/Reuters)

President Obama is letting the CIA play a major part in censoring a report on brutal human-rights abuses perpetrated by CIA employees. This has always been self-evidently absurd: No possible arrangement would present a bigger conflict of interest. What many Americans might not know is that the CIA isn't just intent on covering up torture. It's also averse to the public knowing more about renditions, a euphemism for kidnapping people and handing them over to violent thugs. 

A rendition victim is now speaking out to highlight this aspect of the controversy. Today, she's a 23-year-old college student working toward a degree in the humanities. When her family was kidnapped she was a frightened 12-year-old girl.

Libyan dictator Muammar Qaddafi was in power at the time. For years, he'd been hunting opponents of his brutal regime, including the father of Khadija al-Saadi, the 12-year-old. Her family fled to the United Kingdom and later to China (her father was present at times and away from the family at other times–he describes his two stints in Afghanistan in this interview). Around this time, Tony Blair's government and the Bush administration were both trying to cut deals with the dictator, hoping to make him an ally in the war on terrorism. And Dick Cheney was still insisting that America had to operate "on the dark side." (...)


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Posted: Aug 7, 2014 - 1:39pm

Snowden Given Three-Year Residence Permit in Russia
NSA whistleblower will be able to move freely within the country and travel abroad for short durations
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Posted: Aug 5, 2014 - 2:25pm

New leaker disclosing US secrets, government concludes - CNN.com
The federal government has concluded there's a new leaker exposing national security documents in the aftermath of surveillance disclosures by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden,U.S. officials tell CNN.

Proof of the newest leak comes from national security documents that formed the basis of a news story published Tuesday by the Intercept, the news site launched by Glenn Greenwald, who also published Snowden's leaks.

The Intercept article focuses on the growth in U.S. government databases of known or suspected terrorist names during the Obama administration.

The article cites documents prepared by the National Counterterrorism Center dated August 2013, which is after Snowden left the United States to avoid criminal charges.

Greenwald has suggested there was another leaker. In July, he said on Twitter "it seems clear at this point" that there was another. (...)
Spy Agency Stole Scoop From Media Outlet And Handed It To The AP
Barack Obama's Secret Terrorist-Tracking System, by the Numbers - The Intercept

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Posted: Aug 5, 2014 - 5:07am

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practically all war is possible through inter-generational theft and bribery

people are sheltered from the truth and true costs because of the state's ability to sell off future generations

if we had to actually pay, out of our pockets, for the war machine and the interest on the debt to fund it (or feel the wrath of the IRS for non-payment) there would be no war

that sh*t would cease immediately

 
The first looting of the Social Security and Highway Trust funds occurred in the 60's in order to pay for the war in Viet Nam   That is when the first IOU's were deposited.
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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 9:30pm

 miamizsun wrote:
practically all war is possible through inter-generational theft and bribery

people are sheltered from the truth and true costs because of the state's ability to sell off future generations

if we had to actually pay, out of our pockets, for the war machine and the interest on the debt to fund it (or feel the wrath of the IRS for non-payment) there would be no war

that sh*t would cease immediately 

But that is only the future/debt perspective.

There are plenty of people who benefit from it right now, whether through stocks/jobs/pork in the war machine, war/patriotic paraphernalia, as well as investment opportunities (markets) opened up through the war machine. There are probably more angles, but you get the picture.
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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 3:58pm

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The new Snowden documents illustrate a crucial fact: Israeli aggression would be impossible without the constant, lavish support and protection of the U.S. government, which is anything but a neutral, peace-brokering party in these attacks. And the relationship between the NSA and its partners on the one hand, and the Israeli spying agency on the other, is at the center of that enabling. (...)



 
practically all war is possible through inter-generational theft and bribery

people are sheltered from the truth and true costs because of the state's ability to sell off future generations

if we had to actually pay, out of our pockets, for the war machine and the interest on the debt to fund it (or feel the wrath of the IRS for non-payment) there would be no war

that sh*t would cease immediately


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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 1:12pm

Cash, Weapons and Surveillance: the U.S. is a Key Party to Every Israeli Attack - The Intercept/Greenwald

The U.S. government has long lavished overwhelming aid on Israel, providing cash, weapons and surveillance technology that play a crucial role in Israel’s attacks on its neighbors. But top secret documents provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden shed substantial new light on how the U.S. and its partners directly enable Israel’s military assaults – such as the one on Gaza.

Over the last decade, the NSA has significantly increased the surveillance assistance it provides to its Israeli counterpart, the Israeli SIGINT National Unit (ISNU; also known as Unit 8200), including data used to monitor and target Palestinians. In many cases, the NSA and ISNU work cooperatively with the British and Canadian spy agencies, the GCHQ and CSEC.

The relationship has, on at least one occasion, entailed the covert payment of a large amount of cash to Israeli operatives. Beyond their own surveillance programs, the American and British surveillance agencies rely on U.S.-supported Arab regimes, including the Jordanian monarchy and even the Palestinian Authority Security Forces, to provide vital spying services regarding Palestinian targets.

The new documents underscore the indispensable, direct involvement of the U.S. government and its key allies in Israeli aggression against its neighbors. That covert support is squarely at odds with the posture of helpless detachment typically adopted by Obama officials and their supporters.

President Obama, in his press conference on Friday, said ”it is heartbreaking to see what’s happening there,” referring to the weeks of civilian deaths in Gaza – “as if he’s just a bystander, watching it all unfold,” observed Brooklyn College Professor Corey Robin. Robin added: ”Obama talks about Gaza as if it were a natural disaster, an uncontrollable biological event.”

Each time Israel attacks Gaza and massacres its trapped civilian population – at the end of 2008, in the fall of 2012, and now again this past month – the same process repeats itself in both U.S. media and government circles: the U.S. government feeds Israel the weapons it uses and steadfastly defends its aggression both publicly and at the U.N.; the U.S. Congress unanimously enacts one resolution after the next to support and enable Israel; and then American media figures pretend that the Israeli attack has nothing to do with their country, that it’s just some sort of unfortunately intractable, distant conflict between two equally intransigent foreign parties in response to which all decent Americans helplessly throw up their hands as though they bear no responsibility.

“The United States has been trying to broker peace in the Middle East for the past 20 years,” wrote the liberal commentator Kevin Drum in Mother Jones, last Tuesday. The following day, CNN reported that the Obama administration ”agreed to Israel’s request to resupply it with several types of ammunition … Among the items being bought are 120mm mortar rounds and 40mm ammunition for grenade launchers.”

The new Snowden documents illustrate a crucial fact: Israeli aggression would be impossible without the constant, lavish support and protection of the U.S. government, which is anything but a neutral, peace-brokering party in these attacks. And the relationship between the NSA and its partners on the one hand, and the Israeli spying agency on the other, is at the center of that enabling. (...)


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Posted: Aug 1, 2014 - 2:18pm

Obama: 'We Tortured Some Folks', but...
President urges Americans to remember 'how afraid people were' after 9/11 but says CIA director has his "full confidence" amid controversy over Senate report
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Posted: Aug 1, 2014 - 11:34am

a follow up video to an earlier post {#Arrowd}

'Concrete Facts Are Not Necessary': The Intercept's Ryan Devereaux on the Secret Government Watchlisting Guide



"It's been more than a decade since the September 11th attacks. The question is whether we're on this pendulum and we're going to swing back to some semblance of sanity when it comes to civil liberties," says The Intercept's Ryan Devereaux, who along with Jeremy Scahill, co-authored a shocking expose on the secret government guide to placing people on terrorist watchlists. 

Devereaux spoke with Reason TV's Nick Gillespie about the 166 page document, approved by the Obama administration in March 2013 and developed by no less than 19 government agencies, which greatly expands the scope of the national terror watchlist.

It also substantially lowers the bar for placing a person on the list, definitively stating that "concrete facts are not necessary" for someone to be deemed reasonably suspicious and worthy of government surveillance.

About 7 minutes.


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Posted: Aug 1, 2014 - 11:18am

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I swear it seems this country has gone off the rails and is hurtling into fascism. Somebody tell me I'm wrong. Please.

 
"Hurtling" is a bit strong. And I know it's a bit of a cop out, but I still feel pretty comfortable putting us up against most other .govs and saying "yeah, not so bad". We have lots of freedom, and as mentioned they've always done this, it's just coming out more now.  As we are made aware, we can adjust our behaviors and take precautions as we feel appropriate.

I was in DC this week. It is odd how much surveillance there is.  But at the same time, traffic was bad but not unusually so as we drove past Bethesda while gawking at Marine one and speculating which way the president might have gone from there. I don't know what the real calculus was, but I'd like to think that at least a bit of his travel planning was: helicopter makes less traffic impact than motorcade. Even if it's just for electoral appearance issues that means they still care a bit about what we think.... a little... sort of.
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Posted: Aug 1, 2014 - 8:42am

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I swear it seems this country has gone off the rails and is hurtling into fascism. Somebody tell me I'm wrong. Please.

 
Wish I could, but I think yer oars are in the water.

Stifling public debate and dissenting opinions only hastens the process.   {#Sad}
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Posted: Aug 1, 2014 - 8:33am

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I swear it seems this country has gone off the rails and is hurtling into fascism. Somebody tell me I'm wrong. Please.

 
I guess "the rails" are a matter of perspective.  The CIA has been spying on anyone it wanted since its inception (1947), as has the FBI to a large extent (Hoover's FBI spied on John and Robert Kennedy for years, among many, many others).  Not to brush recent revelations aside, but in some ways, little has changed other than that their methods have seemingly become more sophisticated.  What may have been different 30, 40, or 50 years ago was that far fewer people were made aware of it.  What is disturbing is that since the technology is more sophisticated, it can enable more hubris on their part.  That trend is obviously not a welcome one.


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Posted: Aug 1, 2014 - 8:19am

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I swear it seems this country has gone off the rails and is hurtling into fascism. Somebody tell me I'm wrong. Please.

 

I could, but then I would be wrong.{#Frown}


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