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Posted: Aug 1, 2014 - 2:18pm

Obama: 'We Tortured Some Folks', but...
President urges Americans to remember 'how afraid people were' after 9/11 but says CIA director has his "full confidence" amid controversy over Senate report
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Posted: Aug 1, 2014 - 11:34am

a follow up video to an earlier post {#Arrowd}

'Concrete Facts Are Not Necessary': The Intercept's Ryan Devereaux on the Secret Government Watchlisting Guide



"It's been more than a decade since the September 11th attacks. The question is whether we're on this pendulum and we're going to swing back to some semblance of sanity when it comes to civil liberties," says The Intercept's Ryan Devereaux, who along with Jeremy Scahill, co-authored a shocking expose on the secret government guide to placing people on terrorist watchlists. 

Devereaux spoke with Reason TV's Nick Gillespie about the 166 page document, approved by the Obama administration in March 2013 and developed by no less than 19 government agencies, which greatly expands the scope of the national terror watchlist.

It also substantially lowers the bar for placing a person on the list, definitively stating that "concrete facts are not necessary" for someone to be deemed reasonably suspicious and worthy of government surveillance.

About 7 minutes.


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Posted: Aug 1, 2014 - 11:18am

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I swear it seems this country has gone off the rails and is hurtling into fascism. Somebody tell me I'm wrong. Please.

 
"Hurtling" is a bit strong. And I know it's a bit of a cop out, but I still feel pretty comfortable putting us up against most other .govs and saying "yeah, not so bad". We have lots of freedom, and as mentioned they've always done this, it's just coming out more now.  As we are made aware, we can adjust our behaviors and take precautions as we feel appropriate.

I was in DC this week. It is odd how much surveillance there is.  But at the same time, traffic was bad but not unusually so as we drove past Bethesda while gawking at Marine one and speculating which way the president might have gone from there. I don't know what the real calculus was, but I'd like to think that at least a bit of his travel planning was: helicopter makes less traffic impact than motorcade. Even if it's just for electoral appearance issues that means they still care a bit about what we think.... a little... sort of.
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Posted: Aug 1, 2014 - 8:42am

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I swear it seems this country has gone off the rails and is hurtling into fascism. Somebody tell me I'm wrong. Please.

 
Wish I could, but I think yer oars are in the water.

Stifling public debate and dissenting opinions only hastens the process.   {#Sad}
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Posted: Aug 1, 2014 - 8:33am

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I swear it seems this country has gone off the rails and is hurtling into fascism. Somebody tell me I'm wrong. Please.

 
I guess "the rails" are a matter of perspective.  The CIA has been spying on anyone it wanted since its inception (1947), as has the FBI to a large extent (Hoover's FBI spied on John and Robert Kennedy for years, among many, many others).  Not to brush recent revelations aside, but in some ways, little has changed other than that their methods have seemingly become more sophisticated.  What may have been different 30, 40, or 50 years ago was that far fewer people were made aware of it.  What is disturbing is that since the technology is more sophisticated, it can enable more hubris on their part.  That trend is obviously not a welcome one.


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Posted: Aug 1, 2014 - 8:19am

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I swear it seems this country has gone off the rails and is hurtling into fascism. Somebody tell me I'm wrong. Please.

 

I could, but then I would be wrong.{#Frown}


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Posted: Aug 1, 2014 - 8:12am

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I swear it seems this country has gone off the rails and is hurtling into fascism. Somebody tell me I'm wrong. Please.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2014 - 5:38pm

Yes, Admits CIA Chief, We Spied on Senate Panel Investigating Torture

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Posted: Jul 25, 2014 - 7:45pm

After CIA gets secret whistleblower email, Congress worries about more spying
WASHINGTON— The CIA obtained a confidential email to Congress about alleged whistleblower retaliation related to the Senate’s classified report on the agency’s harsh interrogation program, triggering fears that the CIA has been intercepting the communications of officials who handle whistleblower cases.

The CIA got hold of the legally protected email and other unspecified communications between whistleblower officials and lawmakers this spring, people familiar with the matter told McClatchy. It’s unclear how the agency obtained the material.

At the time, the CIA was embroiled in a furious behind-the-scenes battle with the Senate Intelligence Committee over the panel’s investigation of the agency’s interrogation program, including accusations that the CIA illegally monitored computers used in the five-year probe. The CIA has denied the charges.

The email controversy points to holes in the intelligence community’s whistleblower protection systems and raises fresh questions about the extent to which intelligence agencies can elude congressional oversight.

The email related to allegations that the agency’s inspector general, David Buckley, failed to properly investigate CIA retaliation against an agency official who cooperated in the committee’s probe, said the knowledgeable people, who asked not to be further identified because of the sensitivity of the matter.

Somehow, according to these people, Buckley obtained the email, which was written by Daniel Meyer, the intelligence community’s top official for whistleblower cases, to the office of Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, a leading whistleblower-protection advocate. The Senate Intelligence Committee also learned of the matter, said the knowledgeable people.

After obtaining the email, Buckley approached Meyer’s boss, I. Charles McCullough III, the inspector general for the 17-agency U.S. intelligence community, in what may have constituted a violation of the confidentiality of the whistleblowing process, they said.

Monitoring inspectors’ general communications with lawmakers would clash with efforts by Congress and President Barack Obama to strengthen protections for intelligence community whistleblowers. Government officials outside an inspector general’s office accessed such communications, they could discover whistleblowers’ identities and retaliate against them by targeting them as security risks known as “insider threats.”

The incident involving Meyer’s email occurred shortly before Grassley and Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, wrote to Director of National Intelligence James Clapper demanding to know if all of the communications of federal employees with security clearances are being continually monitored, without protections for whistleblowers. McClatchy’s sources said that the letter and the email were likely connected.

“If whistleblower communications with Inspectors General or with Congress are routinely monitored and conveyed to agency leadership, it would defeat the ability to make protected disclosures confidentially, which is especially important in an intelligence community context,” the senators wrote. (...)


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Posted: Jul 25, 2014 - 3:54pm

The NSA's New Partner in Spying: Saudi Arabia's Brutal State Police - The Intercept/Glenn Greenwald and Murtaza Hussain
Featured photo - The NSA’s New Partner in Spying: Saudi Arabia’s Brutal State Police

"Together we'll make gazillions", said the guy who helps export a brand of rabid Islamism to the guy who helps export weapons...

The National Security Agency last year significantly expanded its cooperative relationship with the Saudi Ministry of Interior, one of the world’s most repressive and abusive government agencies. An April 2013 top secret memo provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden details the agency’s plans “to provide direct analytic and technical support” to the Saudis on “internal security” matters.

The Saudi Ministry of Interior—referred to in the document as MOI— has been condemned for years as one of the most brutal human rights violators in the world. In 2013, the U.S. State Department reported that “Ministry of Interior officials sometimes subjected prisoners and detainees to torture and other physical abuse,” specifically mentioning a 2011 episode in which MOI agents allegedly “poured an antiseptic cleaning liquid down throat” of one human rights activist. The report also notes the MOI’s use of invasive surveillance targeted at political and religious dissidents. (...)


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Posted: Jul 25, 2014 - 12:54pm

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As a matter of fact, I deleted this post because quite frankly I do not feel comfortable expressing my opinions in this country anymore.  I have been sub consciously self censoring for some time and now it has just overlapped into full conscious censoring now.  This is profoundly saddening.{#Cry} (...)
 
Mission accomplished.
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Posted: Jul 25, 2014 - 4:40am

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Thanks Obama! {#Cowboy}

 

As a matter of fact, I deleted this post because quite frankly I do not feel comfortable expressing my opinions in this country anymore.  I have been sub consciously self censoring for some time and now it has just overlapped into full conscious censoring now.  This is profoundly saddening.{#Cry}

Richard, I leave it to you.


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Posted: Jul 25, 2014 - 12:42am

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Thanks Obama! {#Cowboy}
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Posted: Jul 24, 2014 - 10:50pm

Meet Executive Order 12333: The Reagan rule that lets the NSA spy on Americans - The Washington Post
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Posted: Jul 23, 2014 - 4:20pm

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Blacklisted: The Secret Government Rulebook For Labeling You a Terrorist - The Intercept

The Obama administration has quietly approved a substantial expansion of the terrorist watchlist system, authorizing a secret process that requires neither “concrete facts” nor “irrefutable evidence” to designate an American or foreigner as a terrorist, according to a key government document obtained by The Intercept.

The “March 2013 Watchlisting Guidance,” a 166-page document issued last year by the National Counterterrorism Center, spells out the government’s secret rules for putting individuals on its main terrorist database, as well as the no fly list and the selectee list, which triggers enhanced screening at airports and border crossings. The new guidelines allow individuals to be designated as representatives of terror organizations without any evidence they are actually connected to such organizations, and it gives a single White House official the unilateral authority to place “entire categories” of people the government is tracking onto the no fly and selectee lists. It broadens the authority of government officials to “nominate” people to the watchlists based on what is vaguely described as “fragmentary information.” It also allows for dead people to be watchlisted.

Over the years, the Obama and Bush Administrations have fiercely resisted disclosing the criteria for placing names on the databases—though the guidelines are officially labeled as unclassified. In May, Attorney General Eric Holder even invoked the state secrets privilege to prevent watchlisting guidelines from being disclosed in litigation launched by an American who was on the no fly list. In an affidavit, Holder called them a “clear roadmap” to the government’s terrorist-tracking apparatus, adding: “The Watchlisting Guidance, although unclassified, contains national security information that, if disclosed … could cause significant harm to national security.” (...)

 
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Posted: Jul 23, 2014 - 4:02pm

Blacklisted: The Secret Government Rulebook For Labeling You a Terrorist - The Intercept

The Obama administration has quietly approved a substantial expansion of the terrorist watchlist system, authorizing a secret process that requires neither “concrete facts” nor “irrefutable evidence” to designate an American or foreigner as a terrorist, according to a key government document obtained by The Intercept.

The “March 2013 Watchlisting Guidance,” a 166-page document issued last year by the National Counterterrorism Center, spells out the government’s secret rules for putting individuals on its main terrorist database, as well as the no fly list and the selectee list, which triggers enhanced screening at airports and border crossings. The new guidelines allow individuals to be designated as representatives of terror organizations without any evidence they are actually connected to such organizations, and it gives a single White House official the unilateral authority to place “entire categories” of people the government is tracking onto the no fly and selectee lists. It broadens the authority of government officials to “nominate” people to the watchlists based on what is vaguely described as “fragmentary information.” It also allows for dead people to be watchlisted.

Over the years, the Obama and Bush Administrations have fiercely resisted disclosing the criteria for placing names on the databases—though the guidelines are officially labeled as unclassified. In May, Attorney General Eric Holder even invoked the state secrets privilege to prevent watchlisting guidelines from being disclosed in litigation launched by an American who was on the no fly list. In an affidavit, Holder called them a “clear roadmap” to the government’s terrorist-tracking apparatus, adding: “The Watchlisting Guidance, although unclassified, contains national security information that, if disclosed … could cause significant harm to national security.” (...)


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Posted: Jul 15, 2014 - 10:38am

Hacking Online Polls and Other Ways British Spies Seek to Control the Internet - The Intercept

The secretive British spy agency GCHQ has developed covert tools to seed the internet with false information, including the ability to manipulate the results of online polls, artificially inflate pageview counts on web sites, “amplif” sanctioned messages on YouTube, and censor video content judged to be “extremist.” The capabilities, detailed in documents provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, even include an old standby for pre-adolescent prank callers everywhere: A way to connect two unsuspecting phone users together in a call.

The tools were created by GCHQ’s Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group (JTRIG), and constitute some of the most startling methods of propaganda and internet deception contained within the Snowden archive. Previously disclosed documents have detailed JTRIG’s use of “fake victim blog posts,” “false flag operations,” “honey traps” and psychological manipulation to target online activists, monitor visitors to WikiLeaks, and spy on YouTube and Facebook users.

But as the U.K. Parliament today debates a fast-tracked bill to provide the government with greater surveillance powers, one which Prime Minister David Cameron has justified as an “emergency” to “help keep us safe,” a newly released top-secret GCHQ document called “JTRIG Tools and Techniques” provides a comprehensive, birds-eye view of just how underhanded and invasive this unit’s operations are. The document—available in full here—is designed to notify other GCHQ units of JTRIG’s “weaponised capability” when it comes to the dark internet arts, and serves as a sort of hacker’s buffet for wreaking online havoc. (...)


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Posted: Jul 11, 2014 - 1:30pm

Germany asks top US intelligence official to leave country over spy row | World | The Guardian

(...) According to Süddeutsche Zeitung, the US embassy staffer who has been asked to leave is a CIA "chief of station" who coordinates secret service activity in Germany, and who emerged as the key contact for two German officials recently arrested for allegedly spying for the US.

According to German media reports, such drastic action had previously only been thinkable when dealing with "pariah states like North Korea or Iran".

Clemens Binninger, a member of Merkel's Christian Democrats, who chairs the committee that oversees the intelligence services, said at a press conference in Berlin that the action came in response to America's "failure to cooperate on resolving various allegations, starting with the NSA and up to the latest incidents". (...)

{#Whisper} You can come back tomorrow...
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Posted: Jul 10, 2014 - 5:45pm

The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control
At least 80% of all audio calls, not just metadata, are recorded and stored in the US, says whistleblower William Binney – that's a 'totalitarian mentality'
William Binney testifies before a German inquiry into surveillance. Photograph: Getty Images
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