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FourFortyEight

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Posted: Dec 28, 2017 - 9:04pm

 Coaxial wrote:

{#Clap}Keep up the good work!{#Meditate}

 
I appreciate that.  Understand that I know my head and I know that there will be waves and cycles. The consistency has always been the hardest thing to hold onto.  I want more out of my life than what it's been and I promise I'm putting forth the effort.  I'm identifying triggers and trying to find ways around them.  Like tonight, I didn't feel like drinking at all so I made some coffee, warmed up my truck and set out for a peaceful evening ride with some music that I enjoy.  I get out onto the main road and pick up something ugly in my tire, wheel around and limp home before it's completely out of air.  So, out of boredom I had a couple of drinks.  I still recognize these things within myself but I'm trying to stay focused.  I didn't lose my temper over the tire and figured that it might have been for a reason.  Home may have been where I was supposed to be tonight.

Anyway, thanks again. I appreciate you guys. Going to sleep now.  Have a pleasant evening, all.

{#Heartkiss} <— (this means you). 
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Posted: Dec 28, 2017 - 5:50pm

 FourFortyEight wrote:
Well it's been awhile since I updated this post, so I'll share with you where I am.

Christmas was a little difficult but I took 10 days off.  It wasn't horrible and I tried to stay busy. Overall, it was kind of nice to be honest.  I've also found through some time off that I was severely burnt out on work.  Like ready to quit burnt-out.  I still have five days left and I'm almost ready to get back to it, refreshed with a new perspective.  I've had the opportunity to rest and boy have I needed it.  

I've ditched the 12 pack a day habit because I really got sick of how I was feeling every morning.  I've also cut down to a pack of cigs a day because I'm sick of how they're making me feel as well.  My goal is to quit in the next two to three months.  My state of mind is better because I see some light at the end of the tunnel financially and I've developed a plan for the future that I can honestly see working.

I do still partake but I keep it moderate.  Two drinks a day in the evening which seems to give me a calm feeling and I've actually been sleeping better since I stopped the daily binge.  The improvement in how I've felt over the last few weeks is enough assurance to me to keep it up.  

I appreciate the support I've received here from you all more than you know. I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and may your New Year be bright.

Peace! 

 
{#Clap}Keep up the good work!{#Meditate}
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Posted: Dec 28, 2017 - 2:36pm

 Steely_D wrote:

That's a fantastic report. Very glad to hear it.
I meet so many folks who say "here are my transgressions and failures and times I didn't meet my expectations" and I think "Never mind that. Let's hear about the successes. You have those, right?"
And that's what I'm seeing in your post. 

Well done. Happy New Year to you.

 
I’m seeing it, too. It’s awesome.
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Posted: Dec 28, 2017 - 2:23pm

 FourFortyEight wrote:
Well it's been awhile since I updated this post, so I'll share with you where I am.

Christmas was a little difficult but I took 10 days off.  It wasn't horrible and I tried to stay busy. Overall, it was kind of nice to be honest.  I've also found through some time off that I was severely burnt out on work.  Like ready to quit burnt-out.  I still have five days left and I'm almost ready to get back to it, refreshed with a new perspective.  I've had the opportunity to rest and boy have I needed it.  

I've ditched the 12 pack a day habit because I really got sick of how I was feeling every morning.  I've also cut down to a pack of cigs a day because I'm sick of how they're making me feel as well.  My goal is to quit in the next two to three months.  My state of mind is better because I see some light at the end of the tunnel financially and I've developed a plan for the future that I can honestly see working.

I do still partake but I keep it moderate.  Two drinks a day in the evening which seems to give me a calm feeling and I've actually been sleeping better since I stopped the daily binge.  The improvement in how I've felt over the last few weeks is enough assurance to me to keep it up.  

I appreciate the support I've received here from you all more than you know. I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and may your New Year be bright.

Peace! 

 
That's a fantastic report. Very glad to hear it.
I meet so many folks who say "here are my transgressions and failures and times I didn't meet my expectations" and I think "Never mind that. Let's hear about the successes. You have those, right?"
And that's what I'm seeing in your post. 

Well done. Happy New Year to you.
FourFortyEight

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Location: The Dirty South
Gender: Male
Zodiac: Sagittarius
Chinese Yr: Dog


Posted: Dec 28, 2017 - 8:35am

Well it's been awhile since I updated this post, so I'll share with you where I am.

Christmas was a little difficult but I took 10 days off.  It wasn't horrible and I tried to stay busy. Overall, it was kind of nice to be honest.  I've also found through some time off that I was severely burnt out on work.  Like ready to quit burnt-out.  I still have five days left and I'm almost ready to get back to it, refreshed with a new perspective.  I've had the opportunity to rest and boy have I needed it.  

I've ditched the 12 pack a day habit because I really got sick of how I was feeling every morning.  I've also cut down to a pack of cigs a day because I'm sick of how they're making me feel as well.  My goal is to quit in the next two to three months.  My state of mind is better because I see some light at the end of the tunnel financially and I've developed a plan for the future that I can honestly see working.

I do still partake but I keep it moderate.  Two drinks a day in the evening which seems to give me a calm feeling and I've actually been sleeping better since I stopped the daily binge.  The improvement in how I've felt over the last few weeks is enough assurance to me to keep it up.  

I appreciate the support I've received here from you all more than you know. I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and may your New Year be bright.

Peace! 
laozilover
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Posted: Dec 20, 2017 - 10:52am

Lately I have been seeing a lot of people coming back to AA after "going back out". I wonder if it's just a statistical anomaly or if there's something in the general culture pushing them.
FourFortyEight

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Posted: Nov 20, 2017 - 3:52pm

 kurtster wrote:

I've been following along since you started this thread.  There really isn't much that I haven't done that came along before ecstasy.  That's about when I quit doing weird stuff.  But before that the only major thing I missed along the way was smack.  I've helped a few friends turn things around over the years besides myself.  I'm married to a friend of Bill whose got nearly 20 years and learned a lot from her that reinforced my independent conclusions about how to do behaviour modification to get away from the things that lead you the wrong way and can control you.

Most important is to establish a routine as has been already suggested.  When there is only you, there is no one other than you to push you in the right direction.  Routine will help you reset your auto pilot and help you getting up and going to bed at the same time as well as getting you to eat something bordering on a schedule.  Eating regularly will help keep your moods more even which help you away from those moods that lead you to your weaknesses.

To help you organize yourself you might want to try mapping out your week on a chart.  I had a math instructor for a logic course (2007) who gave us a grid that had every day in 7 columns that had the whole 24 hours put into half hour blocks.  You start by highlighting the must do blocks like work, commuting time, eating and sleeping.  Then you see what you have left for things like grocery shopping, laundry, housekeeping, things like that.  You then discover how much discretionary time you have and when it happens and then prioritize how you want to spend it.  Of course it evolves as you go on, but it really tells you where all your time goes and why.  It's also visual aid for your subconscience to internalize and program your autopilot and make it more reliable.  

Secondly and this is just my personal observation over 40 plus years of paying attention is that people who actually love beer and drink it to excess have the most problems getting away from it.  So much different that liquor.  The ritual of the bottles or cans, disposal, etc. make it the difference between cigarettes and cigars.  Beer is the cigs and liquor is the cigar.  One doesn't usually chain smoke cigars.  If you're looking for sleep aids, stay with the weed and try a little melatonin.  Only try to kick one thing at a time.  Many people try to kick everything all at once and set themselves up for a fail by trying to do two impossible things at once.  For the beer, get some beer that you don't like the taste of.  You may get a shot of weening yourself off of it that way.  You still get the sleep help you're seeking, but the taste will get you to start thinking differently about the whole thing.

But get your routine established first.  Probably the most important first step towards treating the problem and not the symptoms.

I have some thoughts about adjusting your (or anyone's) attitude as well but I need to think about how to express it properly.

and for the kids, we called meth crank or crystal back in the 60's and the 70's.  We also said speed kills and for good reason(s).  

all the best, just a pm away if you like ...


 
This is so awesome.  Thank you for writing this up. You nailed some things and definitely know what you're talking about.  I can tell.


kurtster

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Zodiac: Libra
Chinese Yr: Dragon


Posted: Nov 19, 2017 - 1:55pm

 FourFortyEight wrote:

Lonliness, loss, PTSD, tired, bored, etc.  Lots of reasons.  I get what you're saying.  Good ideas and thank you for your input.  Really.

I can't make myself get in bed if my head won't stop. Some nights, a few beers and a bowl will get me there.  If I tried it sober, well... I'd probably need a doctor's help, honestly.  

I feel myself getting closer.  I'd love for a successful story to end up within this thread.   

 
I've been following along since you started this thread.  There really isn't much that I haven't done that came along before ecstasy.  That's about when I quit doing weird stuff.  But before that the only major thing I missed along the way was smack.  I've helped a few friends turn things around over the years besides myself.  I'm married to a friend of Bill whose got nearly 20 years and learned a lot from her that reinforced my independent conclusions about how to do behaviour modification to get away from the things that lead you the wrong way and can control you.

Most important is to establish a routine as has been already suggested.  When there is only you, there is no one other than you to push you in the right direction.  Routine will help you reset your auto pilot and help you getting up and going to bed at the same time as well as getting you to eat something bordering on a schedule.  Eating regularly will help keep your moods more even which help you away from those moods that lead you to your weaknesses.

To help you organize yourself you might want to try mapping out your week on a chart.  I had a math instructor for a logic course (2007) who gave us a grid that had every day in 7 columns that had the whole 24 hours put into half hour blocks.  You start by highlighting the must do blocks like work, commuting time, eating and sleeping.  Then you see what you have left for things like grocery shopping, laundry, housekeeping, things like that.  You then discover how much discretionary time you have and when it happens and then prioritize how you want to spend it.  Of course it evolves as you go on, but it really tells you where all your time goes and why.  It's also visual aid for your subconscience to internalize and program your autopilot and make it more reliable.  

Secondly and this is just my personal observation over 40 plus years of paying attention is that people who actually love beer and drink it to excess have the most problems getting away from it.  So much different that liquor.  The ritual of the bottles or cans, disposal, etc. make it the difference between cigarettes and cigars.  Beer is the cigs and liquor is the cigar.  One doesn't usually chain smoke cigars.  If you're looking for sleep aids, stay with the weed and try a little melatonin.  Only try to kick one thing at a time.  Many people try to kick everything all at once and set themselves up for a fail by trying to do two impossible things at once.  For the beer, get some beer that you don't like the taste of.  You may get a shot of weening yourself off of it that way.  You still get the sleep help you're seeking, but the taste will get you to start thinking differently about the whole thing.

But get your routine established first.  Probably the most important first step towards treating the problem and not the symptoms.

I have some thoughts about adjusting your (or anyone's) attitude as well but I need to think about how to express it properly.

and for the kids, we called meth crank or crystal back in the 60's and the 70's.  We also said speed kills and for good reason(s).  

all the best, just a pm away if you like ...



miamizsun

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Posted: Nov 19, 2017 - 7:18am

 laozilover wrote:



 
i'll say
laozilover
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Posted: Nov 19, 2017 - 4:52am

 Kaw wrote:
Found this inspirational: https://imgur.com/gallery/1w87a

 

FourFortyEight

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Gender: Male
Zodiac: Sagittarius
Chinese Yr: Dog


Posted: Nov 17, 2017 - 6:46pm

 Kaw wrote:
Found this inspirational: https://imgur.com/gallery/1w87a

 
Yep, that guy has been down a pretty jacked up road.  Thanks for sharing.

it's really just weed and beer for me though, dude.  Too much of it, granted.  Way to hit it out of the park with this reference. 
Kaw

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Posted: Nov 17, 2017 - 4:04am

Found this inspirational: https://imgur.com/gallery/1w87a
FourFortyEight

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Posted: Nov 12, 2017 - 3:54pm

 haresfur wrote:

Um, what's wrong with getting that?

 
Not a thing.
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Posted: Nov 10, 2017 - 3:16pm

 FourFortyEight wrote:

Lonliness, loss, PTSD, tired, bored, etc.  Lots of reasons.  I get what you're saying.  Good ideas and thank you for your input.  Really.

I can't make myself get in bed if my head won't stop. Some nights, a few beers and a bowl will get me there.  If I tried it sober, well... I'd probably need a doctor's help, honestly.  

I feel myself getting closer.  I'd love for a successful story to end up within this thread.   

 
Um, what's wrong with getting that?
oldviolin
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Posted: Nov 10, 2017 - 8:37am



I feel myself getting closer.  I'd love for a successful story to end up within this thread.   

 
{#Good-vibes}
FourFortyEight

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Posted: Nov 8, 2017 - 5:09pm

 Kaw wrote:
Although i am not a person that is sensitive for addiction I consider myself a frail person for other reasons. It's more in the direction of depression and sort of intense destructive preoccupation (if that's the correct word) into certain subjects.

I failed doing the self improvement methods. It's not my inner strength. For me the things that helped the most was changing my social environment. I left the toxic environment I grew up in and had the luck to find love. I married her, changed my work and bought a house in a different part of the country.
Having a wife and kids helps me being focused on the more constructive parts of life and they are basically my reason to live.
I must say I am really happy with my life.

But I am aware that I was 'lucky' from an atheist point of view. I believe in God and I like to think that He is responsible for the Forrest Gumpian life story I experienced.

If I was in a position to give advice (which I am aware that this most likely not the case for your situation) I would ask myself what's causing the destructive needs. For me the preoccupation was a way to flee the harsh reality of the miserable life I was living. I believe for most of the addictions this is more or less the same. Why don't you like your life? What can be changed? What's in your power to change? Who can help you to change certain things?
I think creating better living conditions will help you to keep away from your addictions. Cleaning your house might help for example. Reactivate a hobby you had to meet people and avoid social isolation. The breakfast was a good example how you broke away from the killing loneliness.
Go to bed at 10 and go out of bed at 7. Every day. It really helps. Predictable patterns in your life are boring but it's good against depression and destructive habits.
There are a lot more of these little things that combined might give the change you need. A good psych or someone with experience on this subject might help you with this.

I wish you the best of luck.

"We've been searching for our whole lives.
And we have traveled through unexplainable stories.
Swear to God I fought the good fight,
always waiting for the coming of morning.
And I heard the Captain say, I heard the Captain say,
"The more I know, the less I'm knowing."
And I heard the Captain say, I heard the Captain say,
"Activate your force-fields and just keep going..."
Cloud Cult — The Mission: Unexplainable Stories


 
Lonliness, loss, PTSD, tired, bored, etc.  Lots of reasons.  I get what you're saying.  Good ideas and thank you for your input.  Really.

I can't make myself get in bed if my head won't stop. Some nights, a few beers and a bowl will get me there.  If I tried it sober, well... I'd probably need a doctor's help, honestly.  

I feel myself getting closer.  I'd love for a successful story to end up within this thread.   
ScottFromWyoming
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Posted: Nov 8, 2017 - 8:38am

 Kaw wrote:
Go to bed at 10 and go out of bed at 7. Every day. It really helps. 
 
I've got to focus on this. My sleep routine is {there isn't one}.
lily34
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Posted: Nov 8, 2017 - 6:30am

 Kaw wrote:
Although i am not a person that is sensitive for addiction I consider myself a frail person for other reasons. It's more in the direction of depression and sort of intense destructive preoccupation (if that's the correct word) into certain subjects.

I failed doing the self improvement methods. It's not my inner strength. For me the things that helped the most was changing my social environment. I left the toxic environment I grew up in and had the luck to find love. I married her, changed my work and bought a house in a different part of the country.
Having a wife and kids helps me being focused on the more constructive parts of life and they are basically my reason to live.
I must say I am really happy with my life.

But I am aware that I was 'lucky' from an atheist point of view. I believe in God and I like to think that He is responsible for the Forrest Gumpian life story I experienced.

If I was in a position to give advice (which I am aware that this most likely not the case for your situation) I would ask myself what's causing the destructive needs. For me the preoccupation was a way to flee the harsh reality of the miserable life I was living. I believe for most of the addictions this is more or less the same. Why don't you like your life? What can be changed? What's in your power to change? Who can help you to change certain things?
I think creating better living conditions will help you to keep away from your addictions. Cleaning your house might help for example. Reactivate a hobby you had to meet people and avoid social isolation. The breakfast was a good example how you broke away from the killing loneliness.
Go to bed at 10 and go out of bed at 7. Every day. It really helps. Predictable patterns in your life are boring but it's good against depression and destructive habits.
There are a lot more of these little things that combined might give the change you need. A good psych or someone with experience on this subject might help you with this.

I wish you the best of luck.

"We've been searching for our whole lives.
And we have traveled through unexplainable stories.
Swear to God I fought the good fight,
always waiting for the coming of morning.
And I heard the Captain say, I heard the Captain say,
"The more I know, the less I'm knowing."
And I heard the Captain say, I heard the Captain say,
"Activate your force-fields and just keep going..."
Cloud Cult — The Mission: Unexplainable Stories


 

Kaw

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Posted: Nov 8, 2017 - 2:53am

Although i am not a person that is sensitive for addiction I consider myself a frail person for other reasons. It's more in the direction of depression and sort of intense destructive preoccupation (if that's the correct word) into certain subjects.

I failed doing the self improvement methods. It's not my inner strength. For me the things that helped the most was changing my social environment. I left the toxic environment I grew up in and had the luck to find love. I married her, changed my work and bought a house in a different part of the country.
Having a wife and kids helps me being focused on the more constructive parts of life and they are basically my reason to live.
I must say I am really happy with my life.

But I am aware that I was 'lucky' from an atheist point of view. I believe in God and I like to think that He is responsible for the Forrest Gumpian life story I experienced.

If I was in a position to give advice (which I am aware that this most likely not the case for your situation) I would ask myself what's causing the destructive needs. For me the preoccupation was a way to flee the harsh reality of the miserable life I was living. I believe for most of the addictions this is more or less the same. Why don't you like your life? What can be changed? What's in your power to change? Who can help you to change certain things?
I think creating better living conditions will help you to keep away from your addictions. Cleaning your house might help for example. Reactivate a hobby you had to meet people and avoid social isolation. The breakfast was a good example how you broke away from the killing loneliness.
Go to bed at 10 and go out of bed at 7. Every day. It really helps. Predictable patterns in your life are boring but it's good against depression and destructive habits.
There are a lot more of these little things that combined might give the change you need. A good psych or someone with experience on this subject might help you with this.

I wish you the best of luck.

"We've been searching for our whole lives.
And we have traveled through unexplainable stories.
Swear to God I fought the good fight,
always waiting for the coming of morning.
And I heard the Captain say, I heard the Captain say,
"The more I know, the less I'm knowing."
And I heard the Captain say, I heard the Captain say,
"Activate your force-fields and just keep going..."
Cloud Cult — The Mission: Unexplainable Stories



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Posted: Nov 7, 2017 - 9:42pm

 FourFortyEight wrote:

I bought Power of Now.  I've only just begun it but I can see how it could have an impact.  I have to squeeze in bits and pieces where I can but a lot of it sticks with me, specifically incessant thought. I've heard him speak of things that I've already begun thinking about.  Thanks again.

Self-realization won't be the reason I fail if I do.

 
Excellent. It's like being able to ride a bike and you can't go back to not knowing how - once you get to the place of awareness, it's nearly impossible to not be there.


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