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Nov 29, 2012 - 3:57pm |
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U.S. prisons could safely hold Guantanamo prisoners, report saysFederal and military prisons in the United States could securely hold the remaining 166 Guantanamo prisoners, according to a U.S. report that assessed the logistics but not the politics of closing the controversial detention facility.
The prisoners were captured during counterterrorism operations overseas and have been held at the Guantanamo Bay U.S. Naval Base in Cuba, most without charge for more than a decade.
The report by the Government Accountability Office said 98 federal prisons and six military prisons could safely hold them under the same type of security conditions that exist at Guantanamo. (...) Yemeni Detainee at Guantánamo Died of Overdose - NYTimes.com |
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RichardPrins


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RichardPrins


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Sep 8, 2012 - 12:06pm |
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A Court Denounces ‘Executive Fiat’In a scalding opinion issued on Thursday, Judge Royce Lamberth of Federal District Court rejected new rules imposed by the Obama administration last spring that limit access to counsel for prisoners at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, who are not actively challenging their detention. Calling the government’s position an untenable challenge to the separation of powers, he said the administration had improperly given itself “final, unreviewable power to delay, hinder or prevent access to the courts, ” which amounted to “executive fiat.” Under the new rules, those not challenging their detention would not be guaranteed access to their lawyers. Instead, the military commander of Guantánamo would have “authority and discretion” to decide whether they could meet, and about other matters, like whether lawyers would have access to their own files containing classified information.(...)
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RichardPrins


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Sep 8, 2012 - 11:51am |
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Eleven Years After 9/11, Guantánamo Is A Gulag Political Prison Eleven years since the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, the majority of the remaining 168 men in Guantánamo are not held because they constitute an active threat to the United States, but because of inertia, political opportunism and an institutional desire to hide evidence of torture by US forces, sanctioned at the highest levels of government. That they are still held, mostly without charge or trial, is a disgrace that continues to eat away at any notion that the US believes in justice.It seems like an eternity since there was the briefest of hopes that George W. Bush’s “war on terror” prison at Guantánamo would be shut down. That was in January 2009, but although Barack Obama issued an executive order promising to close Guantánamo within a year, he soon reneged on that promise, failing to stand up to Republican critics, who seized on the fear of terrorism to attack him, and failing to stand up to members of his own party, who were also fearful of the power of black propaganda regarding Guantánamo and the alleged but unsubstantiated dangerousness of its inmates. The President himself also became fearful when, in January 2010, the Guantánamo Review Task Force, which he himself had appointed, and which consisted of career officials and lawyers from government departments and the intelligence agencies, issued its report based on an analysis of the cases of the 240 prisoners inherited from George W. Bush (PDF). The Task Force recommended that, of the 240 men held when he came to power, only 36 could be prosecuted, but 48 others were regarded as being too dangerous to release, even though insufficient evidence existed to put them on trial. (...)
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miamizsun

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May 10, 2012 - 4:42am |
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RichardPrins wrote:'Vomiting and screaming' in destroyed waterboarding tapesSecret CIA video tapes of the waterboarding of Osama Bin Laden's suspected jihadist travel arranger Abu Zubaydah show him vomiting and screaming, the BBC has learned.
The tapes were destroyed by the head of the CIA's Counterterrorism Center, Jose Rodriguez.
In an exclusive interview for Newsnight, Rodriguez has defended the destruction of the tapes and denied waterboarding and other interrogation techniques amount to torture.
The CIA tapes are likely to become central to the trial of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of 9/11, at Guantanamo Bay. (...)
Torture: The Bush Administration on Trial by Andy Worthington, May 7, 2012
Rodriguez joins an elite club of public officials — including George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld — who have not been prosecuted for using torture or authorizing its use. Instead, they have been writing books, going on book tours, and appearing on mainstream TV to attempt to justify their unjustifiable actions. They all claim to be protected by a “golden shield,” a legal opinion issued by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel crafted by attorney John Yoo. While the office’s mandate is to provide impartial legal advice to the executive branch, the opinion redefined torture and approved its use — including the use of waterboarding, an ancient torture technique and a form of controlled drowning — on a supposed “high-value detainee,” Abu Zubaydah. The opinion came in the form of two memos, dated August 1, 2002, that will forever be known as the “torture memos.” A four-year internal ethics investigation concluded in January 2010 that Yoo and Bybee had been guilty of “professional misconduct,” which ordinarily would have led to professional sanctions, but a senior Department of Justice official, David Margolis, overrode that conclusion, stating that both men had been under great pressure following the 9/11 attacks, and had merely exercised “poor judgment,” which was the equivalent of nothing more than a slap on the wrist. No one bothered mentioning that Article 2.2 of the UN Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, to which the U.S. became a signatory under Ronald Reagan, declares, “No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat of war, internal political instability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture.” |
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RichardPrins


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May 10, 2012 - 12:18am |
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'Vomiting and screaming' in destroyed waterboarding tapes
Secret CIA video tapes of the waterboarding of Osama Bin Laden's suspected jihadist travel arranger Abu Zubaydah show him vomiting and screaming, the BBC has learned.
The tapes were destroyed by the head of the CIA's Counterterrorism Center, Jose Rodriguez.
In an exclusive interview for Newsnight, Rodriguez has defended the destruction of the tapes and denied waterboarding and other interrogation techniques amount to torture.
The CIA tapes are likely to become central to the trial of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of 9/11, at Guantanamo Bay. (...) |
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Apr 26, 2011 - 11:36am |
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romeotuma wrote: It's more complicated than that... that gulag has been around for a while... long before Bush... he just used it poorly after 9/11... he made it much worse... the time has come for the USA to give it back to Cuba... it was possible to rationalize it after the Bay of Pigs, the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the Cold War, but now it just makes the USA look imperialistic... time to go...
Also, some of these people have been in there since just after 9/11. 10 years ago! If they were still torturing them up until just recently, what information do they think they have? I would imagine any information these people once had (if they had any at all which seems more and more unlikely as the years pass by) is too outdated now to do anything with. But going back to the main point, most of these people are in there based an pretty sketchy evidence and without trial. Imagine how you would feel if you were locked up in a hell hole like that, severely tortured, both mentally and physically because you happen to follow a certain faith and so therefore presumed guilty. Forget the Taliban, terrorist breeding grounds, America have created their very own right there in Guantanamo! |
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geordiezimmerman

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Apr 26, 2011 - 11:10am |
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What I don't get is those that were pro Bush when he opened this place are now more anti Obama because he hasn't closed it! Make your friggin' minds up will ya? |
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cc_rider
Love the Meatball. BE the Meatball.

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Apr 26, 2011 - 10:50am |
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romeotuma wrote:
Yeah, they are a TINY minority... the upside to this is that we still have some journalists— including wikileaks— to tell us the truth...
The stuff coming from Rolling Stone's guy, what's-his-name Tabibbi? has been pretty spot-on lately.
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cc_rider
Love the Meatball. BE the Meatball.

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Apr 26, 2011 - 10:46am |
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romeotuma wrote:
Yes, there are... Bernie Sanders... also that dude in Ohio— what's his name? I don't want to try to list them all, but there are some scattered around... unfortunately, a minority...
Good point. I like him a lot. Damn rare breed though.
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cc_rider
Love the Meatball. BE the Meatball.

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Apr 26, 2011 - 10:36am |
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romeotuma wrote:
The torture has stopped. The inmates' cases have been reviewed. But the detention camp in Cuba remains a festering sore on this country's global reputation. Hampered by ideologues and cowards in Congress, President Obama has made scant progress in healing it... Is there anybody ELSE in Congress?
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Apr 26, 2011 - 10:34am |
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An editorial today from the very best newspaper in the USA...
The Guantánamo Papers
The internal documents from the prison in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, published in The Times on Monday were a chilling reminder of the legal and moral disaster that President George W. Bush created there. They describe the chaos, lawlessness and incompetence in his administration's system for deciding detainees' guilt or innocence and assessing whether they would be a threat if released. Innocent men were picked up on the basis of scant or nonexistent evidence and subjected to lengthy detention and often to abuse and torture. Some people were released who later acted against the United States. Inmates who committed suicide were regarded only as a public relations problem. There are seriously dangerous prisoners at Guantánamo who cannot be released but may never get a real trial because the evidence is so tainted. The torture has stopped. The inmates' cases have been reviewed. But the detention camp in Cuba remains a festering sore on this country's global reputation. Hampered by ideologues and cowards in Congress, President Obama has made scant progress in healing it...
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Apr 25, 2011 - 12:04pm |
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geordiezimmerman wrote: Exactly. How anyone on here can defend Guantanamo is beyond me. Personally i think elements of racism come into it. People have the attitude that if they are Muslim then they must be guilty.
The right to a due process goes all the way back to Clause 29 of the Magna Carta, from the year 1215... so Guantanomo Bay is inexcusible beyond medieval... on top of that, the USA is occupying another country as a host for this gulag, so it is a double disgrace...I am disappointed that Obama promised to close that abomination and has not done so yet... maybe he will in his second term... I have hope... Obama be my hero... he ain't done yet... it ain't over until it's over...
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cc_rider
Love the Meatball. BE the Meatball.

Location: Austin Texas. Y'all. Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Apr 25, 2011 - 11:54am |
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bokey wrote:
No battery charger, no foul.
Remember that scene in 'Brubaker'? Yeouch.
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geordiezimmerman

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Apr 25, 2011 - 11:36am |
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cc_rider wrote:What torture? There was no torture. Sure, there were some 'advanced interrogation techniques', but torture? No way. The Justice Department said so. The Vice President said so. Even the President said so. If we can't trust THEM, who can we trust?
Sheesh. Throw some water on some guys and all'a sudden they start crying 'torture'. What a buncha babies. Besides, you wanna make an omelet, you gotta break some eggs.
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bokey
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Apr 25, 2011 - 11:35am |
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cc_rider wrote:What torture? There was no torture. Sure, there were some 'advanced interrogation techniques', but torture? No way. The Justice Department said so. The Vice President said so. Even the President said so. If we can't trust THEM, who can we trust?
Sheesh. Throw some water on some guys and all'a sudden they start crying 'torture'. What a buncha babies. Besides, you wanna make an omelet, you gotta break some eggs.
No battery charger, no foul.
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geordiezimmerman

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Apr 25, 2011 - 11:31am |
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Monkeysdad wrote:So...why then hasn't President Obama shut down Guantanamo and started the proceedings in civil court as he promised to multiple times during his campaign?!  Do you think President Obama or AG Holder are racists? Like Beamends said further up there ^^^, threat of lawsuits etc. However, although I think it's fair game to criticise Obama because of his lack of action in closing the place down, the very fact that this torture chamber was ever even allowed to exist is the much bigger crime in my opinion. Did you criticise Bush when he opened this place? Do you criticise him now, now you know more of the realities of what's going on in there?
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BillJ
turn off your mind, relax and float downstream

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Apr 25, 2011 - 11:09am |
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cc_rider wrote:What torture? There was no torture. Sure, there were some 'advanced interrogation techniques', but torture? No way. The Justice Department said so. The Vice President said so. Even the President said so. If we can't trust THEM, who can we trust?
Sheesh. Throw some water on some guys and all'a sudden they start crying 'torture'. What a buncha babies. Besides, you wanna make an omelet, you gotta break some eggs.
Right, and don't forget, if life gives you lemons, make lemonade.
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cc_rider
Love the Meatball. BE the Meatball.

Location: Austin Texas. Y'all. Gender:  Zodiac:  Chinese Yr:  
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Apr 25, 2011 - 10:30am |
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beamends wrote:
It hasn't been shut down because that would be a huge climb-down, effectively acknowledging is was an illegal farce. I suspect a huge number of massive claims for compensation would follow as current detainees would either have to be released immediately or put into the US justice system. Claims for rendition alone would make WikiLeaks look like mere rumour compared to the damage and embarrassment a trial would cause. And then there's the torture...
As for racism, I suspect Geordie is referring to the endemic assumption that all Muslims are evil, uncultured thicko terrorists that is held my many, or most ?, in the West.
What torture? There was no torture. Sure, there were some 'advanced interrogation techniques', but torture? No way. The Justice Department said so. The Vice President said so. Even the President said so. If we can't trust THEM, who can we trust?
Sheesh. Throw some water on some guys and all'a sudden they start crying 'torture'. What a buncha babies. Besides, you wanna make an omelet, you gotta break some eggs.
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beamends


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Apr 25, 2011 - 10:23am |
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Monkeysdad wrote:So...why then hasn't President Obama shut down Guantanamo and started the proceedings in civil court as he promised to multiple times during his campaign?!  Do you think President Obama or AG Holder are racists? It hasn't been shut down because that would be a huge climb-down, effectively acknowledging is was an illegal farce. I suspect a huge number of massive claims for compensation would follow as current detainees would either have to be released immediately or put into the US justice system. Claims for rendition alone would make WikiLeaks look like mere rumour compared to the damage and embarrassment a trial would cause. And then there's the torture...
As for racism, I suspect Geordie is referring to the endemic assumption that all Muslims are evil, uncultured thicko terrorists that is held my many, or most ?, in the West.
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