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Posted: Jul 2, 2015 - 12:18pm

Don't worry kids... {#Wink}

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Posted: Jul 2, 2015 - 10:52am

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I always thought Mr. Whipple was a creep but this is beyond the pale.
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Posted: Jul 2, 2015 - 9:07am

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Posted: Jun 22, 2015 - 4:29pm

Confidence in Religion at New Low, but Not Among Catholics
Americans' confidence in the church and organized religion has fallen dramatically over the past four decades, hitting an all-time low this year of 42%. Confidence in religion began faltering in the 1980s, while the sharpest decline occurred between 2001 and 2002 as the Roman Catholic Church grappled with a major sexual abuse scandal. Since then, periodic improvements have proved temporary, and it has continued to ratchet lower. (...)

Trend: Percentage of Americans With a

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Posted: Jun 14, 2015 - 10:05am

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Marriage is too sacred for gay folk, but divorce as protest is okay.... {#Think}
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Posted: Jun 14, 2015 - 6:09am

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Australian couple vows to divorce if same-sex marriage allowed
'Marriage is sacred {sic} and what is truly marriage will only ever be what it has always been'

Marriage is too sacred for gay folk, but divorce as protest is okay.... {#Think}
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Posted: Jun 12, 2015 - 2:21pm

Australian couple vows to divorce if same-sex marriage allowed
'Marriage is sacred {sic} and what is truly marriage will only ever be what it has always been'
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Posted: Jun 9, 2015 - 1:53pm

I know the female body can have a certain power over people but.. wtf?
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Posted: Jun 9, 2015 - 12:01pm

Evangelicals Open Door to Debate on Gay Rights - NYTimes.com

As a young, gay Christian activist, Matthew Vines considered it a victory just to get into a room at a conservative Christian university here with four influential evangelicals who disagreed with him over what the Bible says about homosexuality.

He ended up in a polite, heartfelt three-hour debate last month over Scripture passages about topics like celibacy, eunuchs, slavery — and the connections between sex and marriage.

“Every single system you have within your body — whether it’s your respiratory system, your excretory system, your muscular system — can be completed as an individual,” said Sean McDowell, a professor here at Biola University and a well-known Christian author and speaker. “But there’s only one system in which male and female have half and become a united whole, and that’s in reproduction.”

But God intended marriage to be about more than “plumbing,” Mr. Vines argued: “Marriage ideally should be about permanent, mutual, self-giving, self-sacrificing love.”

As acceptance of same-sex marriage has swept the country and as the Supreme Court prepares to release a landmark decision on the issue, a wide variety of evangelical churches, colleges and ministries are having the kinds of frank discussions about homosexuality that many of them say they had never had before.

Youth ministers and chaplains are studying how to respond to students struggling with their sexual identities. Governing boards are re-examining their policies on allowing openly gay people in Bible studies. And pastors are preaching and writing about, rather than ignoring, the recent books arguing that the Bible can be read to support same-sex marriage.

Few are dropping their opposition. But aware that they are seen by many as bigots, some evangelical leaders are trying to figure out how to stand firm without alienating the rising share of Americans — especially younger ones — who know gay people and support gay rights, or who may themselves come out as gay. (...)

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Posted: Jun 5, 2015 - 5:22pm

I swear to God that after my divorce I will not be using pay-day loans anymore to feed my family...
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Posted: May 30, 2015 - 8:55pm

Ultra-Orthodox Jewish sect tells London mothers to stop driving
Belz rabbis in Stamford Hill say children driven to school by their mothers will be turned away for breaching ‘traditional rules of modesty’

(...) Not all Orthodox sects discourage women from driving. This is believed to be the first time a ban has been imposed in the UK.

The Belz, who originated in Ukraine in the early 18th century and established their headquarters in Israel after the second world war, are one of the most prominent Hasidic sects.

In September last year, there was similar controversy when posters put up by an Orthodox Jewish group warned women to walk on one side of the road for a religious parade. The posters were removed by Hackney council after they were deemed unacceptable.

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Posted: May 22, 2015 - 1:27pm

Grand ol' big family values
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Posted: May 6, 2015 - 11:41am

Chlamydia Outbreak Hits Texas High School With No Sex Eds

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Posted: Apr 24, 2015 - 6:40am

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Posted: Apr 23, 2015 - 3:09pm

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Posted: Apr 19, 2015 - 10:25am

Perverting Religious Freedom
Hiding Hatred Behind Religion

Religion is commonly believed to be inherently good. “God” is equated with love, justice, truth, peace. Thus, those who represent “God” are assumed to possess these godly qualities— with their prayers and piety providing a reinforcing saintly effect. Their Christian churches in public squares, with steeples pointing upward, are a constant reminder of religion’s reverence for people’s lives. And if that is not enough conditioning, people put their right hand over their heart to pledge allegiance to “one nation under God.” You can even find “God” in your pocketbook” by following the money, on which is printed the motto, ‘IN GOD WE TRUST.’ Besides that, “. . . so help me God” is the gold standard for truth-telling. And “God bless America” is the Benediction ending every president’s address. With such a high, holy, moral reputation, and armed with an infallible “Good Book” as a guide, religion is often a “righteous” place behind which to hide hatred of other persons.

An influential number of Conservative Christians are seeking to use religion as a cloak to hide their hated of gay and lesbian persons– with a “straight” face. In Indiana, Arkansas and numerous other states, these Christians want protection from laws that would require them to provide services for same-sex persons and couples, laws which they claim violate their beliefs and thus impose a “substantial burden” on their practice of religion. In other words, they want the “religious freedom” to impose a “substantial burden” on those their Biblical bias defines as The Other.

If society were governed by laws protecting the “religious freedom” of Biblically-bound believers and not by civil law, imagine the “substantial burden” that would be placed on anyone who is deemed lesser, or different, or who supports those so maligned and marginalized. If evangelical Christian Islamophobes and homophobes like Rev. Franklin Graham had the legal power, they would create the hell on earth for The Other that they envision for them in the after-life.

The freedom to believe as one wants and to worship as one chooses are not under attack in America. On the contrary, limits must be set on “religious freedom” for the protection of everyone in society.

A personal example reveals why “religious freedom” must have limits for the protection of others in society. In 1973, I performed the same-sex marriage of two male members of Boston’s Old West United Methodist Church. The two men had been students at Boston University School of Theology, and I minister of Old West Church for eight years. In performing their marriage, I was guided by their love for each other, and not by United Methodism’s Book of Discipline, which stated that “homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching” and that “we do not recommend marriage between two persons of the same sex.” I was guilty by association.

Two days after I performed the marriage, my denominational superiors (the Bishop and District Superintendent) met secretly with the psychiatrist with whom I had terminated, and allegedly obtained detrimental psychiatric information about me. The Bishop proceeded to use the allegations to publicly (in a press conference) and privately (to the Conference’s Board of Ministry) say that “indications pointed to a possible illness which might be seriously affecting” my “usefulness as a United Methodist minister.” That I “was not presently in a position to assume pastoral responsibilities anywhere.” And that his “judgment as chief pastor (was) based on competent consultation.” (RECORD APPENDIX, the official lawsuit document before the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts, 1985, pages 109, 110.) These allegations laid the foundation for the Bishop and his Cabinet of Five District Superintendents to charge me with other alleged improprieties, effectively assassinating my character and influencing a majority of Conference ministers to vote for my forcible retirement. (For a detailed analysis of my case, see Alberts, Easter Depends on Whistleblowers: The Minister Who Could Not Be “Preyed” Away, Counterpunch, March 29-31, 2013)

In 1974, I brought a lawsuit against the psychiatrist, the Bishop and the District Superintendent for violating my right of privacy. Ten years later, when their lawyers could no longer hide behind legal machinations, the case finally came before the Justices of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court. It was here especially that the defendants tried to hide their violation of my civil right of privacy behind their “religious freedom.” (...)

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Posted: Apr 18, 2015 - 1:31pm

What ‘religious freedom’ used to mean
Today it’s becoming the cry of the privileged and powerful concerning what they can deny someone else because of religious beliefs.
At the turn of the 17th century, an English lawyer named Thomas Helwys had become part of a separatist congregation in Lincolnshire (it is to this congregation that many Baptists trace their roots). They were dissenters from the Church of England, established by King Henry VIII. In what is considered the first written call for religious freedom in the English language, Helwys wrote, “If the King’s people be obedient and true subjects, obeying all humane laws made by the King, our Lord the King can require no more: for men’s religion to God is betwixt God and themselves; the King shall not answer for it, neither may the King be judge between God and man.”

According to William M. Pinson Jr., “(King James I) had Helwys thrown in Newgate Prison, a terrible place, filled with rodents, insects, disease, filth, and hardened criminals. Helwys, a devout pastor and peaceful citizen, had done nothing violent or immoral to warrant such punishment.” He died in prison.

Across the Atlantic, a few decades later, Anglican clergyman-turned-separatist Roger Williams had developed his own religious convictions that put him at odds with the Puritans. In the Massachusetts Bay Colony, you were subject to whippings or imprisonment for not attending worship or other offenses against the church. You could not vote if you were not a member of the correct church. Your taxes supported the church. Pinson writes, “The attitude of those in power in Massachusetts was that if people did not agree with the ruling saints, they could leave.” (Sound familiar?) If you chose to stay but insisted on a different way of worshiping and believing, “the consequences were severe. For example, four Quakers were hanged in the colony.”

Roger Williams (not Thomas Jefferson) was the first to speak of a “wall of separation” between church and state, and wrote that “an enforced uniformity of religion throughout a nation or civil state, confounds the civil and religious, and denies the principles of Christianity ….” Williams was threatened with exile, so he fled to modern-day Rhode Island, where he not only established the first Baptist church on American soil but chartered the first colony that guaranteed complete religious freedom for all people. He knew firsthand what religious persecution was.

Once upon a time, “religious freedom” was the cry of the oppressed minority when basic human rights were being denied them by their own government because of their religious beliefs. Today, in the United States, “religious freedom” is becoming the cry of the privileged and powerful concerning what they can rightfully deny someone else because of religious beliefs. It has been a radical shift, and it is an embarrassing travesty.

Religious freedom used to be about gaining the protection of the law, not putting oneself above the law. In the late 1700s, Baptist minister John Leland wrote, “Let every man speak freely without fear — maintain the principles that he believes — worship according to his own faith, either one God, three Gods, no God, or twenty Gods; and let government protect him in so doing." (...)

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Posted: Apr 17, 2015 - 3:41pm

 ScottN wrote:
The "Religious Freedom" that Robertson and others refer to as being part of The First Amendment is one they would interpret as having the right as a religious principle to be bigoted, and in exercising their rights as they see them, deny rights to others. {#Frustrated}
And some moral absolutism...
"Thought for today" has been postponed until tomorrow.
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Posted: Apr 17, 2015 - 3:29pm

 RichardPrins wrote:

The "Religious Freedom" that Robertson and others refer to as being part of The First Amendment is one they would interpret as having the right as a religious principle to be bigoted, and in exercising their rights as they see them, deny rights to others. {#Frustrated}
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Posted: Apr 17, 2015 - 3:15pm

Xian terrorism...
Why This Longtime Abortion Provider May Never Reopen Her Practice
One year ago, Susan Cahill's clinic was destroyed. She's still not sure what she's going to do.
In the nearly 40 years that Susan Cahill, the only physician's assistant in Montana to provide abortions, operated a clinic in the state, she saw picketers, lawsuits, even a firebombing. But nothing matched what she says she witnessed in 2014, when she first entered her clinic after it had been systematically destroyed by Zachary Klundt, the son of a local anti-abortion activist. Klundt recently pleaded guilty to the crime, but a year after the break-in and vandalism, Cahill has been unable to resume her practice. Now, she tells Cosmopolitan.com how the attack affected her life and why she may never reopen, a real concern for a 600-mile stretch of the country where there are fewer than 10 clinics remaining.

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