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Posted: Apr 19, 2015 - 10:25am

Perverting Religious Freedom
Hiding Hatred Behind Religion
by Rev. WILLIAM E. ALBERTS

Religion is commonly believed to be inherently good. “God” is equated with love, justice, truth, peace. Thus, those who represent “God” are assumed to possess these godly qualities— with their prayers and piety providing a reinforcing saintly effect. Their Christian churches in public squares, with steeples pointing upward, are a constant reminder of religion’s reverence for people’s lives. And if that is not enough conditioning, people put their right hand over their heart to pledge allegiance to “one nation under God.” You can even find “God” in your pocketbook” by following the money, on which is printed the motto, ‘IN GOD WE TRUST.’ Besides that, “. . . so help me God” is the gold standard for truth-telling. And “God bless America” is the Benediction ending every president’s address. With such a high, holy, moral reputation, and armed with an infallible “Good Book” as a guide, religion is often a “righteous” place behind which to hide hatred of other persons.

An influential number of Conservative Christians are seeking to use religion as a cloak to hide their hated of gay and lesbian persons– with a “straight” face. In Indiana, Arkansas and numerous other states, these Christians want protection from laws that would require them to provide services for same-sex persons and couples, laws which they claim violate their beliefs and thus impose a “substantial burden” on their practice of religion. In other words, they want the “religious freedom” to impose a “substantial burden” on those their Biblical bias defines as The Other.

If society were governed by laws protecting the “religious freedom” of Biblically-bound believers and not by civil law, imagine the “substantial burden” that would be placed on anyone who is deemed lesser, or different, or who supports those so maligned and marginalized. If evangelical Christian Islamophobes and homophobes like Rev. Franklin Graham had the legal power, they would create the hell on earth for The Other that they envision for them in the after-life.

The freedom to believe as one wants and to worship as one chooses are not under attack in America. On the contrary, limits must be set on “religious freedom” for the protection of everyone in society.

A personal example reveals why “religious freedom” must have limits for the protection of others in society. In 1973, I performed the same-sex marriage of two male members of Boston’s Old West United Methodist Church. The two men had been students at Boston University School of Theology, and I minister of Old West Church for eight years. In performing their marriage, I was guided by their love for each other, and not by United Methodism’s Book of Discipline, which stated that “homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching” and that “we do not recommend marriage between two persons of the same sex.” I was guilty by association.

Two days after I performed the marriage, my denominational superiors (the Bishop and District Superintendent) met secretly with the psychiatrist with whom I had terminated, and allegedly obtained detrimental psychiatric information about me. The Bishop proceeded to use the allegations to publicly (in a press conference) and privately (to the Conference’s Board of Ministry) say that “indications pointed to a possible illness which might be seriously affecting” my “usefulness as a United Methodist minister.” That I “was not presently in a position to assume pastoral responsibilities anywhere.” And that his “judgment as chief pastor (was) based on competent consultation.” (RECORD APPENDIX, the official lawsuit document before the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts, 1985, pages 109, 110.) These allegations laid the foundation for the Bishop and his Cabinet of Five District Superintendents to charge me with other alleged improprieties, effectively assassinating my character and influencing a majority of Conference ministers to vote for my forcible retirement. (For a detailed analysis of my case, see Alberts, Easter Depends on Whistleblowers: The Minister Who Could Not Be “Preyed” Away, Counterpunch, March 29-31, 2013)

In 1974, I brought a lawsuit against the psychiatrist, the Bishop and the District Superintendent for violating my right of privacy. Ten years later, when their lawyers could no longer hide behind legal machinations, the case finally came before the Justices of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court. It was here especially that the defendants tried to hide their violation of my civil right of privacy behind their “religious freedom.” (...)


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Posted: Apr 18, 2015 - 1:31pm

What ‘religious freedom’ used to mean
Today it’s becoming the cry of the privileged and powerful concerning what they can deny someone else because of religious beliefs.
At the turn of the 17th century, an English lawyer named Thomas Helwys had become part of a separatist congregation in Lincolnshire (it is to this congregation that many Baptists trace their roots). They were dissenters from the Church of England, established by King Henry VIII. In what is considered the first written call for religious freedom in the English language, Helwys wrote, “If the King’s people be obedient and true subjects, obeying all humane laws made by the King, our Lord the King can require no more: for men’s religion to God is betwixt God and themselves; the King shall not answer for it, neither may the King be judge between God and man.”

According to William M. Pinson Jr., “(King James I) had Helwys thrown in Newgate Prison, a terrible place, filled with rodents, insects, disease, filth, and hardened criminals. Helwys, a devout pastor and peaceful citizen, had done nothing violent or immoral to warrant such punishment.” He died in prison.

Across the Atlantic, a few decades later, Anglican clergyman-turned-separatist Roger Williams had developed his own religious convictions that put him at odds with the Puritans. In the Massachusetts Bay Colony, you were subject to whippings or imprisonment for not attending worship or other offenses against the church. You could not vote if you were not a member of the correct church. Your taxes supported the church. Pinson writes, “The attitude of those in power in Massachusetts was that if people did not agree with the ruling saints, they could leave.” (Sound familiar?) If you chose to stay but insisted on a different way of worshiping and believing, “the consequences were severe. For example, four Quakers were hanged in the colony.”

Roger Williams (not Thomas Jefferson) was the first to speak of a “wall of separation” between church and state, and wrote that “an enforced uniformity of religion throughout a nation or civil state, confounds the civil and religious, and denies the principles of Christianity ….” Williams was threatened with exile, so he fled to modern-day Rhode Island, where he not only established the first Baptist church on American soil but chartered the first colony that guaranteed complete religious freedom for all people. He knew firsthand what religious persecution was.

Once upon a time, “religious freedom” was the cry of the oppressed minority when basic human rights were being denied them by their own government because of their religious beliefs. Today, in the United States, “religious freedom” is becoming the cry of the privileged and powerful concerning what they can rightfully deny someone else because of religious beliefs. It has been a radical shift, and it is an embarrassing travesty.

Religious freedom used to be about gaining the protection of the law, not putting oneself above the law. In the late 1700s, Baptist minister John Leland wrote, “Let every man speak freely without fear — maintain the principles that he believes — worship according to his own faith, either one God, three Gods, no God, or twenty Gods; and let government protect him in so doing." (...)


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Posted: Apr 17, 2015 - 3:41pm

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The "Religious Freedom" that Robertson and others refer to as being part of The First Amendment is one they would interpret as having the right as a religious principle to be bigoted, and in exercising their rights as they see them, deny rights to others. {#Frustrated}
 
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The "Religious Freedom" that Robertson and others refer to as being part of The First Amendment is one they would interpret as having the right as a religious principle to be bigoted, and in exercising their rights as they see them, deny rights to others. {#Frustrated}
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Posted: Apr 17, 2015 - 3:15pm

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Why This Longtime Abortion Provider May Never Reopen Her Practice
One year ago, Susan Cahill's clinic was destroyed. She's still not sure what she's going to do.
In the nearly 40 years that Susan Cahill, the only physician's assistant in Montana to provide abortions, operated a clinic in the state, she saw picketers, lawsuits, even a firebombing. But nothing matched what she says she witnessed in 2014, when she first entered her clinic after it had been systematically destroyed by Zachary Klundt, the son of a local anti-abortion activist. Klundt recently pleaded guilty to the crime, but a year after the break-in and vandalism, Cahill has been unable to resume her practice. Now, she tells Cosmopolitan.com how the attack affected her life and why she may never reopen, a real concern for a 600-mile stretch of the country where there are fewer than 10 clinics remaining.

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Posted: Apr 16, 2015 - 8:43am

Religious Fanaticism is a Huge Factor in Americans' Support for Israel - The Intercept/Greenwald
Religion appears to play an important role in shaping the numbers. Born-again Christians are more likely than overall poll respondents, 58 percent to 35 percent, to back Israel regardless of U.S. interests. Americans with no religious affiliation were the least likely to feel this way, at 26 percent.
(...) It’s fun, easy and self-satisfying to think of the countries we dislike as being plagued and shaped in their foreign affairs by religious fanaticism. It’s much less fun and comforting to think of ourselves that way. But there’s no question that religious extremism is prevalent among Americans, and the pervasive and bizarrely absolute support for Israel is driven in significant part by extremist religious dogma about God’s will.

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Posted: Apr 8, 2015 - 9:04am

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I am glad you put Mullah in front of his name, that is a very good analogy.  I find it amusing how Fundamental Christians and Muslims have such disdain for each other when in reality they have much more in common than differences.
 
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I am glad you put Mullah in front of his name, that is a very good analogy.  I find it amusing how Fundamental Christians and Muslims have such disdain for each other when in reality they have much more in common than differences.


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Posted: Apr 8, 2015 - 8:40am

{#Fire}Mullah bin Perkins: LGBT-Affirming Christians Committing 'Heresy'{#Fire}
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Posted: Apr 7, 2015 - 3:02pm

Family Research Council Kicks Off Anti-Gay Prayer Campaign | Right Wing Watch

The Family Research Council is kicking off 21 days of prayer today to repent for Americans’ “failure as citizens to stand up to politicians, and elected officials who have overstepped their authority to impose special homosexual rights, including marriage upon the American people.”

Pierre Bynum, the FRC’s chaplain and national prayer director, told members in an email today that conservatives are facing “this evil hour” as a result of their “failure as believers to defend marriage, countering the coordinated effort by homosexuals to advance an agenda to redefine marriage in society, by boldly speaking the truth in love.”

“If the Supreme Court rules wrongly, the fight for everything relating to faith in God, His moral and spiritual laws, and the very gospel will be under accelerated assault for the rest of our lives,” Bynum wrote.

During the next few months the U.S Supreme Court, could rule again, on four same-sex marriage cases, and declare same sex marriage a constitutional right in all 50 states. We all share guilt for having arrived at this place. Our only real hope is God!

As we pray and fast for the next 21 days, asking God to raise up His standard to protect and preserve marriage in our land, we must begin by confession, repentance and cleansing, if our appeal to heaven is to be heard.

With humility and repentance, may we confess our personal and collective sins before God! (...)
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Posted: Apr 2, 2015 - 9:12pm

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The Future of World Religions: Population Growth Projections, 2010-2050
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10 Situations Where Christian Bakers Should Refuse To Bake Wedding Cakes

 


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