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Posted: Oct 15, 2014 - 9:52am

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Ah, the lunatic fringe has been heard from.
 
They're too much fun to ignore... {#Mrgreen}
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Posted: Oct 15, 2014 - 9:43am

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Posted: Oct 13, 2014 - 4:03pm

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Vatican Signals More Tolerance Toward Gays and Divorce - NYTimes.com

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Under furious assault from conservative Catholics, the Vatican backtracked Tuesday on its surprisingly positive assessment of gays and same-sex relationships. (...)

One South African cardinal called Monday's statement, which also included positive language about unmarried couples who cohabitate, "irredeemable."

"The message has gone out that this is what the synod is saying, this is what the Catholic Church is saying," said Cardinal Wilfrid Fox Napier, referring to the special meeting of Catholic clergy gathered here through Saturday.

"It's not what we're saying at all."

In response to such reactions, the Vatican backtracked a bit Tuesday. In a statement, it said the report on gays and lesbians was a "working document," not the final word from Rome.

The Vatican also said that it wanted to welcome gays and lesbians in the church, but not create "the impression of a positive evaluation" of same-sex relationships, or, for that matter, of unmarried couples who live together. (...)


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Posted: Oct 12, 2014 - 8:56am

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Posted: Oct 7, 2014 - 9:09am

Marriage Meltdown...
Look Who Wants To Amend The Constitution Now: Ted Cruz Wants States' Rights Amendment on Marriage | Right Wing Watch
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Posted: Oct 3, 2014 - 12:36pm

Sorry Republicans But Jesus Was a Marxist | Dan Arel 

(...) How then can the Republican Party, the party that aligns itself as closely as it can with Christianity and the Christian Bible, be so against Marxism or any other kind of social welfare or wealth equality programs?

It may make sense that they may reject Marxism itself as Marx advocated for the elimination of religion saying, "The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of religion."

Yet socialism itself does not require the elimination of religion and actual socialist organizations outright defend the freedom of religion as a fundamental right.

Yet Werleman looked at the data in a YouGov poll that showed:

(...) Only 18 percent of Republicans believe Jesus would support higher taxes on the rich; taxes that benefit the funding of the common good - schools, hospitals, and safety nets for those the capitalist machine leaves downtrodden. (Sixty-three percent of Democrats believe Jesus would support raising taxes on the rich.)

That seems to imply only 18 percent of Republicans have even the slightest idea about what Jesus taught.

Republicans have fought to bring an end to government funded food programs, to end funding to broader healthcare coverage, women's health clinics, public education, educational programing and all sorts of programs that are used for the betterment of society, all while voting over and over again to protect the wealth of the top one percent of the nation. (...)


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Posted: Sep 27, 2014 - 5:32pm

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Posted: Sep 27, 2014 - 5:24pm

Erick Erickson: People Who Believe In Evolution Are Dumb And Jealous | Right Wing Watch

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Posted: Sep 8, 2014 - 6:58pm

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Gary Cass Calls For Holy War: 'Islam Has No Place In Civilized Society'

Yesterday, anti-Islam activist Gary Cass, founder of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission, posted a piece on his website in which he calls for Christians to prepare to wage holy war in an effort to utterly destroy all 1.6 billion of the world's Muslims because Christians simply have to "face the harsh truth that Islam has no place in civilized society."

Saying that there is no possibility of converting Muslims to Christianity and forcibly sterilizing all Muslims in order to prevent them from building an "Army of Islam" is impractical, Cass declares that the only solution is biblical violence, which is why Americans must now begin preparing to launch an "overwhelming Christian just war" by arming themselves and their children and forming "small cells" that will "crush the vicious seed of Ishmael in Jesus name":
Here’s three possible solutions, but really there’s only one.

1.) Conversion: Wouldn't it be wonderful to see Muslims turn from Satan (Allah) to Christ? But, I agree with Phil Robertson, this is not biblically doable. Why? God has a plan and he revealed it at the birth of Ishmael, the father of the Arabs. "The Angel of the Lord said....He will be an ass of a man; His hand shall be against every man, and every man's hand against him..." (Genesis 16:11,12) The Arab Muslims are God's sworn enemies and are ordained by God to be against everyone. That’s not to say there will not be a small percentage of Muslims who will be saved by faith in Christ. But, even if they escape with their lives after “apostatizing” from Islam, their influence will be negligible. History does not record a mighty move of God in saving masses of Muslims. I believe the scriptures militate against mass Muslim conversions.

2.) D.A.M.N.: Depart All Muslims Now. Deport them like Spain was forced to do when they deported the Muslim Moors. Muslims in America are procreating at twice the rate of other groups. So, either we force them all to get sterilized, or we wait for the “Army of Islam” to arise in our midst and do what Muslims always do, resort to violence. Just see what they are doing in France, Britain and Scandinavia. Fat chance our politicians will do anything until its too late, unless, of course, "We the People" demand otherwise. But, history shows America is always late to the fight. Or, we can do what most Americans are doing, wishfully think we are the exception and Muslims will all of a sudden change and want to co-exist. This is irrational and stupid, but it makes life more tolerable. Knowing that every Mosque in America is conspiring to kill you and yours is terrifying.

3.) Violence: The only thing that is biblical and that 1400 years of history has shown to work is overwhelming Christian just war and overwhelming self defense. Christian Generals Charles Martel in 732 and Jon Sobieski in 1672 defeated Islamic Turks and their attempts to take the West. Who will God raise up to save us this time? Will God even intervene or turn us over to the Muslims for turning against Him?
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I'd love to hear him explain how his perspective is any different from radical Islamists; aside from the titles, of course. Also, he should learn how to write, edit and spell-check if he's gonna be running a web site.


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Posted: Sep 8, 2014 - 6:42pm

Gary Cass Calls For Holy War: 'Islam Has No Place In Civilized Society'

Yesterday, anti-Islam activist Gary Cass, founder of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission, posted a piece on his website in which he calls for Christians to prepare to wage holy war in an effort to utterly destroy all 1.6 billion of the world's Muslims because Christians simply have to "face the harsh truth that Islam has no place in civilized society."

Saying that there is no possibility of converting Muslims to Christianity and forcibly sterilizing all Muslims in order to prevent them from building an "Army of Islam" is impractical, Cass declares that the only solution is biblical violence, which is why Americans must now begin preparing to launch an "overwhelming Christian just war" by arming themselves and their children and forming "small cells" that will "crush the vicious seed of Ishmael in Jesus name":
Here’s three possible solutions, but really there’s only one.

1.) Conversion: Wouldn't it be wonderful to see Muslims turn from Satan (Allah) to Christ? But, I agree with Phil Robertson, this is not biblically doable. Why? God has a plan and he revealed it at the birth of Ishmael, the father of the Arabs. "The Angel of the Lord said....He will be an ass of a man; His hand shall be against every man, and every man's hand against him..." (Genesis 16:11,12) The Arab Muslims are God's sworn enemies and are ordained by God to be against everyone. That’s not to say there will not be a small percentage of Muslims who will be saved by faith in Christ. But, even if they escape with their lives after “apostatizing” from Islam, their influence will be negligible. History does not record a mighty move of God in saving masses of Muslims. I believe the scriptures militate against mass Muslim conversions.

2.) D.A.M.N.: Depart All Muslims Now. Deport them like Spain was forced to do when they deported the Muslim Moors. Muslims in America are procreating at twice the rate of other groups. So, either we force them all to get sterilized, or we wait for the “Army of Islam” to arise in our midst and do what Muslims always do, resort to violence. Just see what they are doing in France, Britain and Scandinavia. Fat chance our politicians will do anything until its too late, unless, of course, "We the People" demand otherwise. But, history shows America is always late to the fight. Or, we can do what most Americans are doing, wishfully think we are the exception and Muslims will all of a sudden change and want to co-exist. This is irrational and stupid, but it makes life more tolerable. Knowing that every Mosque in America is conspiring to kill you and yours is terrifying.

3.) Violence: The only thing that is biblical and that 1400 years of history has shown to work is overwhelming Christian just war and overwhelming self defense. Christian Generals Charles Martel in 732 and Jon Sobieski in 1672 defeated Islamic Turks and their attempts to take the West. Who will God raise up to save us this time? Will God even intervene or turn us over to the Muslims for turning against Him?
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Posted: Jul 28, 2014 - 5:00pm

Satanic Temple seeks Hobby Lobby-style exemption from anti-abortion laws
If Christian business owners cannot be compelled to violate their faith, why should the same protection not apply to Satanists? That's the argument the Satanic Temple is making to claim that, in the wake of the Supreme Court's Hobby Lobby ruling, women who share their beliefs should not be forced to follow some of the more restrictive state-level abortion laws to crop up in recent years.

Specifically, the Satanic Temple wants women to be exempt from having to view legally mandated "informational" materials — which it calls "biased" and "medically invalid" — prior to having an abortion. Dozens of states require women to attend counseling before receiving an abortion, while 10 mandate that they receive written materials before undergoing the procedure, according to the Guttmacher Institute.

"While we feel we have a strong case for an exemption regardless of the Hobby Lobby ruling, the Supreme Court has decided that religious beliefs are so sacrosanct that they can even trump scientific fact," a spokesperson for the group said in a press release. 

The Satanic Temple added that all women who share their belief that the "body is inviolable subject to one's own will alone" — and not merely temple members — should be free to claim the exemption.

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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 5:43pm

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Now he's let the cat out of the bag.  We need to convert them first, get them to tithe, then let them know the bad news.
 
Yes, those Ham-fisted fundies could learn a thing or thousand from the Catholics. They understand the biz. {#Mrgreen}
Pope Francis has said that he would be willing to baptise aliens if they came to the Vatican, asking “who are we to close doors” to anyone - even Martians. (...)

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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 3:58pm

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Creationist Ken Ham Says Aliens Will Go To Hell So Let's Stop Looking For Them
Creationist Ken Ham, who recently debated Bill Nye the Science Guy over the origins of the universe, is calling for an end to the search for extraterrestrial life because aliens probably don't exist — and if they do, they're going to Hell anyway.

"You see, the Bible makes it clear that Adam’s sin affected the whole universe," Ham wrote on his blog on Sunday. "This means that any aliens would also be affected by Adam’s sin, but because they are not Adam’s descendants, they can’t have salvation."

The post was driven in part by NASA experts saying that they expect to find evidence of alien life within the next 20 years. (...)
Send the saved money to me instead, so I can build an ark...

 
Now he's let the cat out of the bag.  We need to convert them first, get them to tithe, then let them know the bad news.
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 1:33pm

Creationist Ken Ham Says Aliens Will Go To Hell So Let's Stop Looking For Them
Creationist Ken Ham, who recently debated Bill Nye the Science Guy over the origins of the universe, is calling for an end to the search for extraterrestrial life because aliens probably don't exist — and if they do, they're going to Hell anyway.

"You see, the Bible makes it clear that Adam’s sin affected the whole universe," Ham wrote on his blog on Sunday. "This means that any aliens would also be affected by Adam’s sin, but because they are not Adam’s descendants, they can’t have salvation."

The post was driven in part by NASA experts saying that they expect to find evidence of alien life within the next 20 years. (...)
Send the saved money to me instead, so I can build an ark...
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Posted: Jul 8, 2014 - 5:45pm

In general, Muslims, pagans, and atheists suffered the highest levels of discriminatory treatment from employers, a fictitious religious group and Catholics experienced moderate levels, evangelical Christians encountered little, and Jews received no discernible discrimination.

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Posted: Jun 29, 2014 - 12:14pm

The Great Secession
Faced with sweeping social change, conservative Christians are walling themselves off from secular society. But when religion isolates itself, both sides lose.

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Posted: Jun 22, 2014 - 2:00pm

How We Know the Bible Was Written by Human(s) Hand #books
Three Scholars Face Truth Of Biblical History

According to a Gallup poll taken last month, 40% of Americans believe that the Bible is the literal record of words spoken by God. A new crop of books from Yale University Press shows why this belief is illogical and incoherent.

All three cover ground that is largely familiar to scholars of religion, but still has the capacity to shock traditionalists. Far from being a unified set of texts, the Bible is the product of multiple hands, contradictory agendas, and a gradual process of codification that proceeded according to the prevailing political agendas of the times. Indeed, the boundaries of biblical literature were themselves contested over an extended period of time, settling only in the first centuries of the common era.

This is true even of the Torah itself, which scholars have long understood to be a redaction of multiple texts, threaded together from different traditions. This view, known as the “documentary hypothesis,” has been remarkably successful over its 150-year lifespan. Joel Baden’s 2012 volume, “The Composition of the Pentateuch,” surveys the history of the documentary hypothesis, observing that subsequent scholarship has provided better evidence for the hypothesis than did the original theorists.

Baden emphasizes that this hypothesis is, first and foremost, a literary solution to a literary problem. Traditionalists sometimes treat it as a religious point of view — a matter of opinion, much like some fundamentalists regard the theory of evolution. But neither evolution nor the documentary hypothesis is a “point of view.” They both try to explain otherwise perplexing evidence.

In the case of the Pentateuch, Baden thoroughly summarizes the “problem”: The text as we have it is rife with factual and doctrinal contradictions, repetitions, omissions and errors. Some are well known, such as the two versions of the Ten Commandments, and the stitched-together narrative of Joseph being sold into slavery, which makes no sense as a single narrative. Others only reveal themselves upon close inspection. (...)

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