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Posted: Aug 20, 2014 - 7:11pm


The Limitations and Problems with "Just War" Theory
Military Academy in West Point, New York on 4/20/2006
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Posted: Aug 5, 2014 - 9:06pm

How Many Minutes to Midnight?
(Why National Security Has Nothing to Do With Security)
Hiroshima Day 2014
By Noam Chomsky
If some extraterrestrial species were compiling a history of Homo sapiens, they might well break their calendar into two eras: BNW (before nuclear weapons) and NWE (the nuclear weapons era).  The latter era, of course, opened on August 6, 1945, the first day of the countdown to what may be the inglorious end of this strange species, which attained the intelligence to discover the effective means to destroy itself, but — so the evidence suggests — not the moral and intellectual capacity to control its worst instincts.

Day one of the NWE was marked by the “success” of Little Boy, a simple atomic bomb.  On day four, Nagasaki experienced the technological triumph of Fat Man, a more sophisticated design.  Five days later came what the official Air Force history calls the “grand finale,” a 1,000-plane raid — no mean logistical achievement — attacking Japan’s cities and killing many thousands of people, with leaflets falling among the bombs reading “Japan has surrendered.” Truman announced that surrender before the last B-29 returned to its base.

Those were the auspicious opening days of the NWE.  As we now enter its 70th year, we should be contemplating with wonder that we have survived.  We can only guess how many years remain.

Some reflections on these grim prospects were offered by General Lee Butler, former head of the U.S. Strategic Command (STRATCOM), which controls nuclear weapons and strategy.  Twenty years ago, he wrote that we had so far survived the NWE “by some combination of skill, luck, and divine intervention, and I suspect the latter in greatest proportion.”

Reflecting on his long career in developing nuclear weapons strategies and organizing the forces to implement them efficiently, he described himself ruefully as having been “among the most avid of these keepers of the faith in nuclear weapons.” But, he continued, he had come to realize that it was now his “burden to declare with all of the conviction I can muster that in my judgment they served us extremely ill.” And he asked, “By what authority do succeeding generations of leaders in the nuclear-weapons states usurp the power to dictate the odds of continued life on our planet? Most urgently, why does such breathtaking audacity persist at a moment when we should stand trembling in the face of our folly and united in our commitment to abolish its most deadly manifestations?”

He termed the U.S. strategic plan of 1960 that called for an automated all-out strike on the Communist world “the single most absurd and irresponsible document I have ever reviewed in my life.” Its Soviet counterpart was probably even more insane.  But it is important to bear in mind that there are competitors, not least among them the easy acceptance of extraordinary threats to survival. (...)

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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 7:06pm

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As predicted.

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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 6:55pm

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I expect that you will continue to frantically dance on command at the sight of my various retorts to your propaganda.  Because you can't tolerate an opposing view without a condescending or unprovoked ad hom response.  Same like always.
  
Still projecting, cupcake? {#Mrgreen}

 
As predicted.

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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 6:50pm

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I expect that you will continue to frantically dance on command at the sight of my various retorts to your propaganda.  Because you can't tolerate an opposing view without a condescending or unprovoked ad hom response.  Same like always.
 
Still projecting, cupcake? {#Mrgreen}
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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 5:56pm

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Surely you didn't expect me to defend Obama in the same way that you defended the Bush adventures? {#Mrgreen}

 
I expect that you will continue to frantically dance on command at the sight of my various retorts to your propaganda.  Because you can't tolerate an opposing view without a condescending or unprovoked ad hom response.  Same like always.
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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 5:48pm

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Surely you didn't expect me to defend Obama in the same way that you defended the Bush adventures? {#Mrgreen}
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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 5:36pm

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“I don’t usually admire Sarah Palin, but when she was making fun of this ‘hopey-changey’ stuff, she was right,” Chomsky said. “There was nothing there. And it was understood by the people who run the political system.”

Chomsky, author of over 100 books and trenchant critic of mass mainstream media, said that the presidency is a prize awarded to the best campaigner.

“It’s no great secret that the U.S. electoral system is mainly a public relations extravaganza to keep away from issues,” Chomsky continued. “It’s sort of a marketing affair. And the people who run it are the advertisers. … They had their national convention right after the 2008 election and revealed that they understood perfectly what was going on. And they gave Obama the award for best marketing campaign of the year.”

The author dismissed Obama from the beginning — he never expected anything but “smoke and mirrors” from his administration, he said, and has stridently criticized the president’s positions on civil liberties. Back in June, Chomsky said Obama’s drone strike policy terrorized civilians and turned them against the U.S.

“Obama is running the biggest terrorist operation that exists, maybe in history: the drone assassination campaigns, which are just part of it. … All of these operations, they are terror operations,” he said in an interview with GRITtv. “You are generating more terrorist operations.”


He's right there too. {#Mrgreen}

 

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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 5:28pm

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“I don’t usually admire Sarah Palin, but when she was making fun of this ‘hopey-changey’ stuff, she was right,” Chomsky said. “There was nothing there. And it was understood by the people who run the political system.”

Chomsky, author of over 100 books and trenchant critic of mass mainstream media, said that the presidency is a prize awarded to the best campaigner.

“It’s no great secret that the U.S. electoral system is mainly a public relations extravaganza to keep away from issues,” Chomsky continued. “It’s sort of a marketing affair. And the people who run it are the advertisers. … They had their national convention right after the 2008 election and revealed that they understood perfectly what was going on. And they gave Obama the award for best marketing campaign of the year.”

The author dismissed Obama from the beginning — he never expected anything but “smoke and mirrors” from his administration, he said, and has stridently criticized the president’s positions on civil liberties. Back in June, Chomsky said Obama’s drone strike policy terrorized civilians and turned them against the U.S.

“Obama is running the biggest terrorist operation that exists, maybe in history: the drone assassination campaigns, which are just part of it. … All of these operations, they are terror operations,” he said in an interview with GRITtv. “You are generating more terrorist operations.”


He's right there too. {#Mrgreen}
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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 5:19pm



 

“I don’t usually admire Sarah Palin, but when she was making fun of this ‘hopey-changey’ stuff, she was right,” Chomsky said. “There was nothing there. And it was understood by the people who run the political system.”

Chomsky, author of over 100 books and trenchant critic of mass mainstream media, said that the presidency is a prize awarded to the best campaigner.

“It’s no great secret that the U.S. electoral system is mainly a public relations extravaganza to keep away from issues,” Chomsky continued. “It’s sort of a marketing affair. And the people who run it are the advertisers. … They had their national convention right after the 2008 election and revealed that they understood perfectly what was going on. And they gave Obama the award for best marketing campaign of the year.”

The author dismissed Obama from the beginning — he never expected anything but “smoke and mirrors” from his administration, he said, and has stridently criticized the president’s positions on civil liberties. Back in June, Chomsky said Obama’s drone strike policy terrorized civilians and turned them against the U.S.

“Obama is running the biggest terrorist operation that exists, maybe in history: the drone assassination campaigns, which are just part of it. … All of these operations, they are terror operations,” he said in an interview with GRITtv. “You are generating more terrorist operations.”

 

 


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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 5:10pm

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"In fact they don't want to hear anything. So they throw pies." {#Mrgreen}

Woe be on the oppressed victims in the far-right...
Prove Me Wrong: Response to Paul Bogdanor's Top 200 Chomsky Lies
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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 5:07pm

The Chomsky Hoax
 Articles and documents exposing the dishonesty and fanaticism of extreme left-wing propagandist and genocide denier Noam Chomsky.

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Paul Bogdanor, The Devil State: Chomsky’s War Against Israel 
Comprehensively refutes Chomsky’s fictions about the Arab-Israeli conflict. From Edward Alexander and Paul Bogdanor, eds., The Jewish Divide Over Israel; an abridged version appeared in Peter Collier and David Horowitz, eds., The Anti-Chomsky Reader.
Alan Dershowitz, Chomsky’s Immoral Divestiture Petition 

Benjamin Kerstein, Noam Chomsky is an Iconic Mass Murderer...
The Chomsky-Dershowitz debates on Israel.
Ali Hussein, Chomsky Needs to Learn a Lot More About Lebanon 
David Horowitz and Jacob Laksin, Noam Chomsky’s Love Affair With Nazis 
Zachary Hughes, Noam Chomsky’s Support For Hezbollah
Chomsky travels to Lebanon and openly embraces the genocidal fanatics of Hezbollah.
Noam Chomsky, Hamas Policies Are More Conducive to a Peaceful Settlement Than Those of the US or Israel
Chomsky tells Lebanese viewers that Hamas positions are “preferable to the policies of the United States and Israel,” which are “very similar to those of Hitler.”
Paul Bogdanor, Chomsky and the Terror Masters
Chomsky travels to Gaza for a meeting with the leader of Hamas.
David Bernstein, Chomsky on Moshe Dayan 
Adam Holland, Quoting Chomsky’s Misquotes 
Oliver Kamm, Chomsky and Conspiracy Theory 
Adriene Sere, The Dance of Deception 
Alan Dershowitz, Chomsky’s New Blood Libel 
Oliver Kamm, Chomsky on Palestine & Israel 
Joel B. Pollak, 60 Years of Self-Destruction
Typical Chomsky falsehoods exposed.



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For Gaza, ‘The Norm’ Is Devastating
With its latest offensive, Israel’s objective is simple: to return to the status quo.
BY Noam Chomsky

Amid all the horrors unfolding in the latest Israeli offensive in Gaza, Israel's goal is simple: quiet-for-quiet, a return to the norm.

For the West Bank, the norm is that Israel continues its illegal construction of settlements and infrastructure so that it can integrate into Israel whatever might be of value, meanwhile consigning Palestinians to unviable cantons and subjecting them to repression and violence.

For Gaza, the norm is a miserable existence under a cruel and destructive siege that Israel administers to permit bare survival but nothing more.

The latest Israeli rampage was set off by the brutal murder of three Israeli boys from a settler community in the occupied West Bank. A month before, two Palestinian boys were shot dead in the West Bank city of Ramallah. That elicited little attention, which is understandable, since it is routine.

“The institutionalized disregard for Palestinian life in the West helps explain not only why Palestinians resort to violence,” Middle East analyst Mouin Rabbani reports, “but also Israel's latest assault on the Gaza Strip.”

In an interview, human rights lawyer Raji Sourani, who has remained in Gaza through years of Israeli brutality and terror, said, “The most common sentence I heard when people began to talk about cease-fire: Everybody says it's better for all of us to die and not go back to the situation we used to have before this war. We don't want that again. We have no dignity, no pride; we are just soft targets, and we are very cheap. Either this situation really improves or it is better to just die. I am talking about intellectuals, academics, ordinary people: Everybody is saying that.”

In January 2006, Palestinians committed a major crime: They voted the wrong way in a carefully monitored free election, handing control of Parliament to Hamas.

The media constantly intone that Hamas is dedicated to the destruction of Israel. In reality, Hamas leaders have repeatedly made it clear that Hamas would accept a two-state settlement in accord with the international consensus that has been blocked by the U.S. and Israel for 40 years.

In contrast, Israel is dedicated to the destruction of Palestine, apart from some occasional meaningless words, and is implementing that commitment.

The crime of the Palestinians in January 2006 was punished at once. The U.S. and Israel, with Europe shamefully trailing behind, imposed harsh sanctions on the errant population and Israel stepped up its violence.

The U.S. and Israel quickly initiated plans for a military coup to overthrow the elected government. When Hamas had the effrontery to foil the plans, the Israeli assaults and the siege became far more severe.

There should be no need to review again the dismal record since. The relentless siege and savage attacks are punctuated by episodes of “mowing the lawn,” to borrow Israel's cheery expression for its periodic exercises in shooting fish in a pond as part of what it calls a “war of defense.” (...)

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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 4:56pm

I'd rather be inspired by intellect than manipulated by emotion
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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 4:55pm

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Here's another messenger for you:

Good ol' Beaker bringing out the neo-con marching band/brain trust in response to a failing propaganda war... {#Mrgreen}

{#Clap} I'm loving all the familiar faces/names goose-stepping in sync to a familiar tune...

 
What was that you were saying about shooting the messenger?  

Next time I'll knock first and drop some leaflets to help you out.


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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 4:53pm

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Here's another messenger for you:

Good ol' Beaker bringing out the neo-con marching band/brain trust in response to a failing propaganda war... {#Mrgreen}

{#Clap}I'm loving all the familiar faces/names goose-stepping in sync to a familiar tune...
Individual Palestinians also testified to IDF abuses such as looting, beatings, vandalism of property and the use of the local population as human shields. But by far the strongest reverbration in Israel was that created by the Israeli organization "Breaking the Silence", which collected testimony from 26 unnamed IDF soldiers. All of the soldiers had been involved in Operation Cast Lead in the Gaza Strip, and testified to instances where Gazans were used as human shields, incendiary phosphorous shells were fired over civilian population areas, and other examples of excessive firepower that caused unnecessary fatalities and destruction of property.
No occupation/siege?
GAZA: LIMITED FOOD, FUEL, AND MEDICINE; INFRASTRUCTURE UNDER STRESS
CASHLESS IN GAZA?
 
A History of Terrible Predictions and Ludicrous Assessments {#Cheesygrin}
Krauthammer Syndrome
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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 4:38pm

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And we're back to shooting the messenger... {#Mrgreen}
 
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Krauthammer: Apologists for Hamas should repudiate lack of morality
Charles Krauthammer says the Palestinian faction, whose goal is to eradicate the Jewish state, is hiding its aggression behind civilians.
By Charles Krauthammer | July 17, 2014 | Updated: July 17, 2014 7:46pm

Israel accepts an Egyptian-proposed Gaza cease-fire; Hamas keeps firing. Hamas deliberately aims rockets at civilians; Israel painstakingly tries to avoid them, actually telephoning civilians in the area and dropping warning charges, so-called roof knocking.

"Here's the difference between us," explains the Israeli prime minister. "We're using missile defense to protect our civilians, and they're using their civilians to protect their missiles."

Rarely does international politics present a moment of such moral clarity. Yet we routinely hear this Israel-Gaza fighting described as a morally equivalent "cycle of violence." This is absurd. What possible interest can Israel have in cross-border fighting? Everyone knows Hamas set off this mini-war. And everyone knows Hamas' proudly self-declared raison d'etre: the eradication of Israel and its Jews.

Apologists for Hamas attribute the bloodlust to the Israeli occupation and blockade. Occupation? Does no one remember anything? It was less than 10 years ago that worldwide television showed the Israeli army pulling diehard settlers off synagogue roofs in Gaza as Israel uprooted its settlements, expelled its citizens, withdrew its military and turned every inch of Gaza over to the Palestinians. There was not a soldier, not a settler, not a single Israeli left in Gaza.

And there was no blockade. On the contrary. Israel wanted this new Palestinian state to succeed. To help the Gaza economy, Israel gave the Palestinians its 3,000 greenhouses that had produced fruit and flowers for export. It opened border crossings and encouraged commerce.

The whole idea was to establish the model for two states living peacefully and productively side by side. No one seems to remember that simultaneous with the Gaza withdrawal, Israel dismantled four smaller settlements in the northern West Bank as a clear signal of Israel's desire to leave the West Bank too and thus achieve an amicable two-state solution.


And how did the Gaza Palestinians react to being granted by the Israelis what no previous ruler, neither Egyptian, nor British, nor Turkish, had ever given them - an independent territory? First, they demolished the greenhouses. Then they elected Hamas. Then, instead of building a state with its attendant political and economic institutions, they spent the better part of a decade turning Gaza into a massive military base, brimming with terror weapons, to make ceaseless war on Israel.

Where are the roads and rail, the industry and infrastructure of the new Palestinian state? Nowhere. Instead, they built mile upon mile of underground tunnels to hide their weapons and, when the going gets tough, their military commanders. They spent millions importing and producing rockets, launchers, mortars, small arms, even drones. They deliberately placed them in schools, hospitals, mosques and private homes to better expose their own civilians. And from which they fire rockets at Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.

Why? The rockets can't even inflict serious damage, being almost uniformly intercepted by Israel's Iron Dome anti-missile system. Even West Bank leader Mahmoud Abbas has asked: "What are you trying to achieve by sending rockets?"

It makes no sense. Unless you understand, as a Washington Post editorial explained, that the whole point is to draw Israeli counterfire.

This produces dead Palestinians for international television. Which is why Hamas perversely urges its own people not to seek safety when Israel, which has now launched a ground offensive, drops leaflets warning of an imminent attack.

To deliberately wage war so that your own people can be telegenically killed is indeed moral and tactical insanity. But it rests on a very rational premise: Given the Orwellian state of the world's treatment of Israel (see: the U.N.'s grotesque Human Rights Council), fueled by a mix of classic anti-Semitism, near-total historical ignorance and reflexive sympathy for the ostensible Third World underdog, these eruptions featuring Palestinian casualties ultimately undermine support for Israel's legitimacy and right to self-defense.

In a world of such Kafkaesque ethical inversions, Hamas' depravity begins to make sense. This is a world in which the Munich massacre is a movie and the murder of Klinghoffer is an opera - both deeply sympathetic to the killers.

This is a world in which the U.N. ignores humanity's worst war criminals while condemning Israel, a state warred upon for 66 years which nonetheless goes to extraordinary lengths to avoid harming the very innocents its enemies use as shields. It's to the Israelis' credit that amid all this madness they haven't lost their moral scruples. Or their nerve. Those outside the region have the minimum obligation, therefore, to expose the madness and speak the truth. Rarely has it been so blindingly clear.




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Posted: Aug 4, 2014 - 4:28pm

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Articles and documents exposing the dishonesty and fanaticism of extreme left-wing propagandist and genocide denier Noam Chomsky. (...)
 
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