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Posted: Sep 4, 2014 - 10:37pm

My daughter told me about this. Wow. I wonder where we as a society would be if we just told the truth in our history books and classes? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVc7yru1cqQ


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Posted: Sep 4, 2014 - 8:07pm

Auto play BOO!!!!     {#Arrowd}
Just when I thought you couldn't possibly be more irritating.

POSTING FAIL! 


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Posted: Sep 4, 2014 - 7:43pm


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Posted: Sep 4, 2014 - 5:55am

 kurtster wrote:

I've been seeing a lot of this guy for the past year or so on FNC and FBC for at least the past year or so.  He makes a lot of sense, ala Bill Cosby in dealing with the core issues in the black community.  His wider views are also very insightful.

 
i can see where he would attract attention by critiquing sacred political cows

or taking issue with jackson or sharpton, etc.

i'd like to see his data

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Posted: Sep 4, 2014 - 5:48am

 miamizsun wrote:
this came across on the youtube

never heard of this guy until this morning

(is there any validity? some of this rhetoric will be painful/hurtful and anti-sharpton)


"My beef with the black left is that they want to keep the focus on what government or Washington or politicians or whites in general can do for blacks, instead of what blacks can do for themselves," says Jason Riley, author of Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make it Harder for Blacks to Succeed and editorial board member of the Wall Street Journal

In a wide-ranging conversation with Reason TV's Nick Gillespie, Riley praises the Civil Rights acts of the 1960s even as he takes aim at affirmative action in higher education, which he says keeps black graduation rates low even as it increases diversity among freshman classes at various univesities. He also argues that the drug war doesn't explain black-on-black violence and ending it won't transform urban America in the way libertarians insist. His book lays out the case against the minimum wage in a chapter called "Mandating Unemployment" and he argues that especially among African Americans, an intact family unit is the best anti-poverty program available.

About 20 minutes.



 
I've been seeing a lot of this guy for the past year or so on FNC and FBC for at least the past year or so.  He makes a lot of sense, ala Bill Cosby in dealing with the core issues in the black community.  His wider views are also very insightful.
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Posted: Sep 4, 2014 - 5:38am

 miamizsun wrote:
this came across on the youtube

never heard of this guy until this morning

(is there any validity? some of this rhetoric will be painful/hurtful and anti-sharpton)


"My beef with the black left is that they want to keep the focus on what government or Washington or politicians or whites in general can do for blacks, instead of what blacks can do for themselves," says Jason Riley, author of Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make it Harder for Blacks to Succeed and editorial board member of the Wall Street Journal

In a wide-ranging conversation with Reason TV's Nick Gillespie, Riley praises the Civil Rights acts of the 1960s even as he takes aim at affirmative action in higher education, which he says keeps black graduation rates low even as it increases diversity among freshman classes at various univesities. He also argues that the drug war doesn't explain black-on-black violence and ending it won't transform urban America in the way libertarians insist. His book lays out the case against the minimum wage in a chapter called "Mandating Unemployment" and he argues that especially among African Americans, an intact family unit is the best anti-poverty program available.

About 20 minutes.



 

I completely concur with what he has to say, but take a little issue in the simplistic view that libertarians think that ending the drug war is a panacea to all of the ills of minorities in American society. I know that I don't.  As a matter of fact I view ending the war on drugs as a constitutional issue for all American citizens, not just minorities.  It is just a component and I agree a smaller component than the elephant in the room that is individual responsiblity.  A very important point of view that needs to be discussed more often no doubt and quite frankly can only be put forth by African Americans such as this gentleman to have a proper listening audience.


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Posted: Sep 4, 2014 - 5:21am

this came across on the youtube

never heard of this guy until this morning

(is there any validity? some of this rhetoric will be painful/hurtful and anti-sharpton)




"My beef with the black left is that they want to keep the focus on what government or Washington or politicians or whites in general can do for blacks, instead of what blacks can do for themselves," says Jason Riley, author of Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make it Harder for Blacks to Succeed and editorial board member of the Wall Street Journal

In a wide-ranging conversation with Reason TV's Nick Gillespie, Riley praises the Civil Rights acts of the 1960s even as he takes aim at affirmative action in higher education, which he says keeps black graduation rates low even as it increases diversity among freshman classes at various univesities. He also argues that the drug war doesn't explain black-on-black violence and ending it won't transform urban America in the way libertarians insist. His book lays out the case against the minimum wage in a chapter called "Mandating Unemployment" and he argues that especially among African Americans, an intact family unit is the best anti-poverty program available.

About 20 minutes.


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Posted: Mar 7, 2014 - 8:35am

Part 2:

via

Six Case Studies in Dog Whistle Politics | BillMoyers.com
In his latest book, Dog Whistle Politics, Ian Haney López writes about the subtle, racially coded messages politicians use — “dog whistles” — to harness below-the-surface racial tensions to get elected and to advance policies that are often contrary to voters’ self-interest.

“Think about a term like ‘welfare queen,’ or ‘food stamp president,’” Haney López told Bill. “On one level, like a dog whistle, it’s silent. Silent about race — it seems race-neutral.” But on another level it has a shrill blast “that can be heard by certain folks … a warning about race and a warning, in particular, about threatening minorities.”

We asked Haney López, a law professor at University of California, Berkeley and a senior fellow at the research and policy center Demos, to walk us through some examples of political TV ads aired during the last three decades in which “dog whistle politics” are on display.

First up: Ronald Reagan: “Prouder, Stronger, Better” (1984) »

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Posted: Mar 1, 2014 - 7:32pm

Ian Haney López tells Bill Moyers that dog whistle politics is “the dark magic” by which middle-class voters have been seduced to vote against their own economic interests.

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Posted: Feb 28, 2014 - 1:09pm

Race as a social construct

Colbert's reaction:


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Posted: Aug 23, 2013 - 8:04am

gypsyman wrote:




First saw this guy a couple of months ago when he announced that he was switching parties.  The more I see and hear him, the more I like him.
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Posted: Aug 23, 2013 - 5:57am

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Oooo I like this guy!  He needs to be a Libertarian or Independent though because even though what he says about the Democrats is true, the modern day Republicans are the last refuge of the blatant bigots and evangelicals that bring them down so they aren't the answer either.

 
seems like a nice enough guy

i've tried to break an old habit of political labeling/definitions because the rhetoric just doesn't match the behavior/action

when i see any type of representative the first question i ask myself is this:

am i allowed to disagree?

and by disagree i mean peaceful non-participation both physically and financially, no support whatsoever

if someone says yes you can disagree but you'll be forced to comply to our rules or else we'll rob you and/or lock you in a cage and if you resist and/or try and defend yourself we will use deadly force

um, that's not me being allowed to disagree, that's the other person/party initiating force, coercion, violence or flat out tyranny

imho, the vast majority of people will voluntarily support common sense infrastructure/benefits (beneficial organization)

peace



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Posted: Aug 23, 2013 - 5:01am

 gypsyman wrote:


 

Oooo I like this guy!  He needs to be a Libertarian or Independent though because even though what he says about the Democrats is true, the modern day Republicans are the last refuge of the blatant bigots and evangelicals that bring them down so they aren't the answer either.


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Posted: Aug 22, 2013 - 8:46pm

 aflanigan wrote:
The map at the link below is pretty amazing. How diverse is your neighborhood?

US Population Distribution by Race, 2010 Census Block Data

 
hey, flanigan!... hope you are well.
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Posted: Aug 16, 2013 - 9:02am

The map at the link below is pretty amazing. How diverse is your neighborhood?

US Population Distribution by Race, 2010 Census Block Data
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Posted: Jul 28, 2013 - 10:54am

 RichardPrins wrote:

The election of Barack Obama failed to usher in a post-racial US, with a new poll showing that 51 percent of Americans hold explicitly anti-black views. That figure is up from 48 percent in 2008, the year America elected its first black president.

­Those expressing implicit anti-black attitudes also spiked from 49 percent to 56 percent over the same four-year period, the Associated Press found in a poll released Saturday.

Racial prejudice against blacks cut clearly across America’s left-right political divide, despite perceptions to the contrary. While 79 percent of Republicans willingly expressed racial prejudice when answering questions measuring explicit racism (as opposed to 32 percent among Democrats), the implicit racism test showed that a majority of Republicans (64 percent) and Democrats (55 percent) held implicit anti-black feelings.

According to the survey, political independents were the least racist, with 49 percent exhibiting implicit anti-black feelings. The poll also found that a majority of respondents (57 percent) held implicitly negative views about Hispanics, up 51 percent from an AP poll taken last year.

All of the surveys were conducted online, with research showing that the likelihood of respondents expressing taboo opinions increased when the poll was taken on a computer, as opposed to speaking with an interviewer.

The explicit racism component of the test asked respondents if they agreed or disagreed with a series of statements concerning blacks and Hispanics. The survey also asked how they associated blacks, whites and Hispanics with a range of adjectives including 'friendly,' 'hardworking,' 'violent' and 'lazy.'

The implicit test entailed showing the same respondents a neutral image of a Chinese character on the screen. The image of a black, white or Hispanic male would flash immediately before the character appeared. Respondents were then asked to rate their feeling towards the Chinese character, with previous research suggesting that people transfer their feelings about the photograph onto the character. The technique is described by psychologists as 'affect misattribution.'

In this way, researchers believe they can measure racist sentiments the respondent might be harboring, even if they are consciously or unconsciously suppressed. (...)

I have to wonder if the use of a Chinese character is as neutral as the researchers think it is.

 
If Hillary runs in 2016,I'm voting for her.Her husband(who I expect
she's still mad at) would be the best adviser possible.

Our demon POTUS has used her as a lackey,and used racism to defeat the person who should have been our first female POTUS.

I'm all in if she runs.

 But hey,if you can't get a BJ at home,whats the problem?
I think she'd be a great POTUS.
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Posted: Jul 28, 2013 - 10:20am

 RichardPrins wrote:

The election of Barack Obama failed to usher in a post-racial US, with a new poll showing that 51 percent of Americans hold explicitly anti-black views. That figure is up from 48 percent in 2008, the year America elected its first black president.

­Those expressing implicit anti-black attitudes also spiked from 49 percent to 56 percent over the same four-year period, the Associated Press found in a poll released Saturday.

Racial prejudice against blacks cut clearly across America’s left-right political divide, despite perceptions to the contrary. While 79 percent of Republicans willingly expressed racial prejudice when answering questions measuring explicit racism (as opposed to 32 percent among Democrats), the implicit racism test showed that a majority of Republicans (64 percent) and Democrats (55 percent) held implicit anti-black feelings.

According to the survey, political independents were the least racist, with 49 percent exhibiting implicit anti-black feelings. The poll also found that a majority of respondents (57 percent) held implicitly negative views about Hispanics, up 51 percent from an AP poll taken last year.

All of the surveys were conducted online, with research showing that the likelihood of respondents expressing taboo opinions increased when the poll was taken on a computer, as opposed to speaking with an interviewer.

The explicit racism component of the test asked respondents if they agreed or disagreed with a series of statements concerning blacks and Hispanics. The survey also asked how they associated blacks, whites and Hispanics with a range of adjectives including 'friendly,' 'hardworking,' 'violent' and 'lazy.'

The implicit test entailed showing the same respondents a neutral image of a Chinese character on the screen. The image of a black, white or Hispanic male would flash immediately before the character appeared. Respondents were then asked to rate their feeling towards the Chinese character, with previous research suggesting that people transfer their feelings about the photograph onto the character. The technique is described by psychologists as 'affect misattribution.'

In this way, researchers believe they can measure racist sentiments the respondent might be harboring, even if they are consciously or unconsciously suppressed. (...)

I have to wonder if the use of a Chinese character is as neutral as the researchers think it is.

 

I know of a lot of studies like that.  In one, researchers walked up to random people and showed them a picture.  They asked the people to then rate the likeability of the person in the photo.  Then, they changed one thing.  Some of the researchers would walk up to people, and before showing them the picture, asking them casually "can you hold my drink for a minute".  The people who held a warm drink rated the likeability of the person in the photo higher than those that held nothing, and much higher than those that held a cold beverage.  There are a million surveys done like this to show that our first impressions to people are emotional, and depend upon our own mood.  I would submit to you that at least some adults are mature enough to put their own emotions aside at some point.  It's one thing to have a first impression, it's another to never be able to step back from your own tainted reaction, to modify it.

I think the housing market collapsed before the election, the banking system before the inauguration, and people's reactions to Obama reflected the state of mind they had at the time.  Fox was screaming that he was a bad President before he was elected, and a lot of people are still carrying around that cold glass of water.


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Posted: Jul 28, 2013 - 9:28am


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Posted: Oct 27, 2012 - 2:55pm

The election of Barack Obama failed to usher in a post-racial US, with a new poll showing that 51 percent of Americans hold explicitly anti-black views. That figure is up from 48 percent in 2008, the year America elected its first black president.

­Those expressing implicit anti-black attitudes also spiked from 49 percent to 56 percent over the same four-year period, the Associated Press found in a poll released Saturday.

Racial prejudice against blacks cut clearly across America’s left-right political divide, despite perceptions to the contrary. While 79 percent of Republicans willingly expressed racial prejudice when answering questions measuring explicit racism (as opposed to 32 percent among Democrats), the implicit racism test showed that a majority of Republicans (64 percent) and Democrats (55 percent) held implicit anti-black feelings.

According to the survey, political independents were the least racist, with 49 percent exhibiting implicit anti-black feelings. The poll also found that a majority of respondents (57 percent) held implicitly negative views about Hispanics, up 51 percent from an AP poll taken last year.

All of the surveys were conducted online, with research showing that the likelihood of respondents expressing taboo opinions increased when the poll was taken on a computer, as opposed to speaking with an interviewer.

The explicit racism component of the test asked respondents if they agreed or disagreed with a series of statements concerning blacks and Hispanics. The survey also asked how they associated blacks, whites and Hispanics with a range of adjectives including 'friendly,' 'hardworking,' 'violent' and 'lazy.'

The implicit test entailed showing the same respondents a neutral image of a Chinese character on the screen. The image of a black, white or Hispanic male would flash immediately before the character appeared. Respondents were then asked to rate their feeling towards the Chinese character, with previous research suggesting that people transfer their feelings about the photograph onto the character. The technique is described by psychologists as 'affect misattribution.'

In this way, researchers believe they can measure racist sentiments the respondent might be harboring, even if they are consciously or unconsciously suppressed. (...)

I have to wonder if the use of a Chinese character is as neutral as the researchers think it is.
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