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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 10:00pm

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The thing that confuses people is the difference between racism (pre-judging people based on their race) and culturism (pre-judging based on behavior).

Racism is shameful. Color is irrelevant to what you can expect from someone.

Judging someone as you see their behavior, their cultural expression? That's a different story. Someone (any color) comes swaggering at me with pants below their hips, anger on their face, and a lack of consideration for others around them - why wouldn't you use the information in front of you?

But these are subtle distinctions that people, and the media, are unwilling to make. Instead of looking and thinking about color, they jump to the obvious: what color are they?  

"Nothing. I just don't like the lifestyle." {#Wink}
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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 9:25pm

The thing that confuses people is the difference between racism (pre-judging people based on their race) and culturism (pre-judging based on behavior).

Racism is shameful. Color is irrelevant to what you can expect from someone.

Judging someone as you see their behavior, their cultural expression? That's a different story. Someone (any color) comes swaggering at me with pants below their hips, anger on their face, and a lack of consideration for others around them - why wouldn't you use the information in front of you?

But these are subtle distinctions that people, and the media, are unwilling to make. Instead of looking and thinking about color, they jump to the obvious: what color are they? 
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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 9:12pm

I'm sorry I haven't been keeping up with this thread but I think the only people that feel there isn't racism in America are the racists themselves.
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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 7:44pm

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What I see coming from you,as always,is a post with a pointless,provacative C&P link from some random,stick poking  viewpoint or angle that is designed to get a response that you can mock.

 
bump folks

 It's time to put this rabid dog down.
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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 7:44pm

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Kurt,don't feed this troll.

 
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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 7:40pm

Kurt,don't feed this troll.
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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 7:35pm

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(changes the subject)
 
That's still not in the article. By all means continue to justify your ideological hatred of one group, while furiously handwaving when confronted to the dangers of your own klan. {#Mrgreen}
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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 7:21pm

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Aside from clearly being unable to read, where did you see any conclusions? What I see coming from you is not unusual: more lies.

 

Speaking of lies.  I let this go over in the Global Terror thread, but since you brought up the subject of lying ...

The article when read deeply as opposed to your superficial take clearly deals with the wounded as a factor.  As I said, I got my information from reading the article you posted.  I did not make up the numbers as you stated.  It isn't just about the dead as you try and make the case repeatedly.

RichardPrins wrote:

The article doesn't talk about the wounded.

Ultimately the point is that there's only media-induced hysteria about one group (and eagerly lapped up and repeated by some folks). A.k.a. scapegoat politics and tribalism.

There is no Global War on Right Wing Extremists or billions/trillions of dollars spent to hunt them down. 

When all is tallied (globally) in the GWOT the biggest killers aren't the Muslim extremists when compared to their supposed targets. It's the people who at first use them for their own purposes, then creating larger imaginary threats that eventually re-materialize as real threats when lots of innocent people get killed in the game. Self-fulfilling prophecies of good and evil.

  

From the source material ...

And from line items in the article ...

Maj. Nidal Hasan was a U.S. Army psychiatrist who opened fire in a medical facility at the Fort Hood military base on November 5, 2009, killing 13 people and wounding more than 30 others. He was sentenced to death by a military court-martial in August 2013. Hasan was scheduled to deploy to Afghanistan a few weeks after the shooting took place. He had shouted “Allahu ¬akbar!” (“God is great”) before opening fire with a high-powered, high-capacity handgun with laser sights. After firing more than 200 rounds, he was shot by military police and was paralyzed from the waist down. Medical school classmates interviewed after the incident said that he had voiced strong opinions against the war in Afghanistan.

ParticipantsYear indicted or killed
Nidal Malik Hasan2009
 
 Victims killed  13
 
Victims wounded  32

Deadly Jihadist Attacks

On April 15, 2013, two pressure cooker bombs exploded at the Boston Marathon. The bombing triggered a massive investigation, and on April 18, photos of two suspects were released to the public. After the suspects were identified as Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the two brothers shot a policeman at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in the early morning of April 19 and hijacked a car. The resulting manhunt ended when police shot and killed Tamerlan and later arrested Dzhokhar after he was discovered hiding in a boat in the Boston suburb of Watertown. Dzhokhar was indicted on multiple charges related to the bombing, including the use of a weapon of mass destruction. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was found guilty and sentenced to death by a federal jury. According to NSA Director Gen. Keith Alexander, the NSA’s database of phone call records did not help identify the Tsarnaevs though it was used in the follow up investigation.

ParticipantsYear indicted or killed
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev2013
Tamerlan Tsarnaev2013

 
Victims killed  4
 
Victims wounded  170

 
On June 18, 2015, Dylann Roof was arrested and charged with killing nine people in a shooting on at the historic black Emmanuel AME Church in Charleston, South Carolina on June 17, 2015. According to one of the victims, Roof said: "You rape our women, and you’re taking over our country. And you have to go," during the shooting. Roof had posted a manifesto citing his radicalization after seeing the coverage of the Trayvon Martin case and laying out a racist worldview. He had also posted pictures on his website and Facebook featuring white supremacist imagery, including the Confederate battle flag, patches of the Apartheid South African flag, and a T-shirt featuring the number "88," which is often used as a symbol for "Heil Hitler."
ParticipantsYear indicted or killed
Dylann Roof2015
 
 
Victims killed  9
 
Victims wounded  0



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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 7:09pm

 RichardPrins wrote:

Aside from clearly being unable to read, where did you see any conclusions? What I see coming from you is not unusual: more lies.

 
What I see coming from you,as always,is a post with a pointless,provacative C&P link from some random,stick poking  viewpoint or angle that is designed to get a response that you can mock.


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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 7:03pm

 kurtster wrote:
 
 
You're willing to stick up for chemtrails because you're so attuned to things that you can see obvious patterns where others just see business as usual... and yet...


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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 6:56pm

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More race baiting on your part as usual.  Maybe you should have waited a little longer before jumping to conclusions.

 Lightning might have caused South Carolina church fire, FBI says

I
n other breaking news ...  the shark attacks in the South have been determined to be racist.

They are clearly an example of Great White privilege ...
 
Aside from clearly being unable to read, where did you see any conclusions? What I see coming from you is not unusual: more lies.
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Posted: Jul 1, 2015 - 6:44pm

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Greeleyville African-American church seventh burned across South in wake of Emanuel shooting

Flames engulfed a prominent African-American church Tuesday night that was already destroyed once by a blaze ignited by the KKK in 1995.

Mount Zion AME Church is the seventh black church to burn across the South in the wake of the killing of nine worshipers at Charleston’s Emanuel AME Church and Gov. Nikki Haley’s subsequent call to bring down the Confederate flag.

State Law Enforcement Division Chief Mark Keel said several agents responded to the fire and that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and other federal agencies were notified. The cause was not immediately known Tuesday night. (...)



 
More race baiting on your part as usual.  Maybe you should have waited a little longer before jumping to conclusions.

 Lightning might have caused South Carolina church fire, FBI says

I
n other breaking news ...  the shark attacks in the South have been determined to be racist.

They are clearly an example of Great White privilege ... 
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Posted: Jun 30, 2015 - 8:50pm

Greeleyville African-American church seventh burned across South in wake of Emanuel shooting

Flames engulfed a prominent African-American church Tuesday night that was already destroyed once by a blaze ignited by the KKK in 1995.

Mount Zion AME Church is the seventh black church to burn across the South in the wake of the killing of nine worshipers at Charleston’s Emanuel AME Church and Gov. Nikki Haley’s subsequent call to bring down the Confederate flag.

State Law Enforcement Division Chief Mark Keel said several agents responded to the fire and that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and other federal agencies were notified. The cause was not immediately known Tuesday night. (...)


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Posted: Jun 30, 2015 - 8:54am

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At this point, I no longer care. It's off the front page of the topic, and I no longer have to mute it. Once upon a time, I might have cared to try and figure out what was going on, but now, with the RP site, new problems seem to arise daily, affecting some but not others. This might be a case of that.

 
Apology(?) accepted, I guess.
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Posted: Jun 29, 2015 - 8:28pm

At this point, I no longer care. It's off the front page of the topic, and I no longer have to mute it. Once upon a time, I might have cared to try and figure out what was going on, but now, with the RP site, new problems seem to arise daily, affecting some but not others. This might be a case of that.
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Posted: Jun 29, 2015 - 6:29pm

ScottFromWyoming wrote:

If we're talking about the Colbert video, it's never autoplayed for me. Chrome, Mac yadda yadda.



didn't autoplay here either
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Posted: Jun 29, 2015 - 6:20pm

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I use FF and Alison used Chrome. It was auto playing for us every time we loaded this topic. I believe bokey had the same problem. I think he uses Chrome, too.

 
If we're talking about the Colbert video, it's never autoplayed for me. Chrome, Mac yadda yadda.
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Posted: Jun 29, 2015 - 6:10pm

 n4ku wrote:

I use FF and Alison used Chrome. It was auto playing for us every time we loaded this topic. I believe bokey had the same problem. I think he uses Chrome, too.

 
That's weird because I use FF and it never did autoplay for me. Strange.
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Posted: Jun 29, 2015 - 5:59pm

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I don't know why you're having a problem. The html code in the embed is not set for autoplay:

 value="autoPlay=false"

Is anyone else having this issue? 

It's not autoplaying in either Chrome or IE for me.

 
I use FF and Alison used Chrome. It was auto playing for us every time we loaded this topic. I believe bokey had the same problem. I think he uses Chrome, too.


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Posted: Jun 29, 2015 - 3:19pm

Investigators Probe Fires At 6 Black Churches In 5 Southern States : NPR

(...) Richard Cohen is the president of the Southern Poverty Law Center, and he says the recent burnings of black churches throughout the South are "very, very suspicious."

"Black churches have long been the focus of civil rights activity," Cohen told NPR. "And for this reason they've been targeted historically."

There was a string of them in the '50s and the '60s, during the civil rights movement. Perhaps the most notorious was the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Ala., on Sept. 15, 1963, which killed four young black girls.

A wave of church burnings swept the nation again in the '90s, prompting then-President Bill Clinton to sign the Church Arson Prevention Act, a law that increased jail time for people who burn churches.

As to this recent wave of church burnings, Cohen said, "It's not unreasonable to suspect that what we're seeing < now > is a backlash to the taking down of the Confederate flag, the determination of our country to face its racial problems." (...)


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