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Posted: Jul 1, 2014 - 5:48am

As of today, I am covered through my employer. Halleluia.
 
 
 
Hopefully, there won't be any retroactive fine for the first half of the year, come tax time. I'm sorry, but Affordable Health Care was STILL not affordable—not for my budget.
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Posted: Jun 30, 2014 - 8:24am

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I'm a fan of the proposal to save energy by putting microwave generators in the corners of the rooms in everyone's house so you can heat the people, not the room. {#Devil_pimp}

  And, in a best case scenario, they can be holding their next meal.  Two birds! {#Cowboy}


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Posted: Jun 30, 2014 - 8:19am

 cc_rider wrote:
In their defense, they navigate myriad governmental agencies as well. And since I am designing wireless devices, I am learning WHY the government needs to be involved. One example: wireless frequencies are assigned to certain carriers. Like radio stations, you're not allowed to just broadcast anywhere on the dial with as much power as you want. The FCC is the 'traffic cop' that keeps everybody in their own lanes. But it gets better.

All those radio frequencies running around out there? Well, I recently learned the LTE frequencies (in North America only), are very close to the same frequency as microwaves. Yep, the same ones that heat your food. That band has the potential to cook YOU. Our devices require sensors to detect when your body is close-by (an inch or so away), and the unit cuts the power to the LTE signal to prevent harm. In this case, I'm kind of glad the government requires this kind of feature.

 
I'm a fan of the proposal to save energy by putting microwave generators in the corners of the rooms in everyone's house so you can heat the people, not the room. {#Devil_pimp}
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Posted: Jun 30, 2014 - 7:49am

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Indeed. In the last year I have had extensive customer service wrangles with DirectTV, AT&T, COX Communications and now US Cellular. It amazes me that these people are able to accomplish anything.

  In their defense, they navigate myriad governmental agencies as well. And since I am designing wireless devices, I am learning WHY the government needs to be involved. One example: wireless frequencies are assigned to certain carriers. Like radio stations, you're not allowed to just broadcast anywhere on the dial with as much power as you want. The FCC is the 'traffic cop' that keeps everybody in their own lanes. But it gets better.

All those radio frequencies running around out there? Well, I recently learned the LTE frequencies (in North America only), are very close to the same frequency as microwaves. Yep, the same ones that heat your food. That band has the potential to cook YOU. Our devices require sensors to detect when your body is close-by (an inch or so away), and the unit cuts the power to the LTE signal to prevent harm. In this case, I'm kind of glad the government requires this kind of feature.


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Posted: Jun 30, 2014 - 7:48am

 miamizsun wrote:
very busy but i thought i'd offer definitive definitions

moral people seek profit

immoral people seek plunder

we all seek profit (or means to acquire property like food, shelter, clothing, better lifestyle, etc.)

profit turns to plunder when there is coercion involved

coercion, broadly speaking comes in two forms

force (physical) and fraud (intellectual)

will check in later today

regards
 

I like this. I'll try to give you credit when I regurgitate it later. I know many of both types - I'll expound on that at a later date too.
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Posted: Jun 30, 2014 - 7:40am

very busy but i thought i'd offer definitive definitions

moral people seek profit

immoral people seek plunder

we all seek profit (or means to acquire property like food, shelter, clothing, better lifestyle, etc.)

profit turns to plunder when there is coercion involved

coercion, broadly speaking comes in two forms

force (physical) and fraud (intellectual)

will check in later today

regards


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Posted: Jun 30, 2014 - 7:39am

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The mindblowing incompetence of FOR PROFIT companies is what truly is destroying this country. Tried to change your cable TV service lately? Cell phone? Heck, tried to update your Health Insurance information? I'm still getting paperwork from Humana, saying I owe a provider. I have not been with Humana for six months now. I checked with my provider and we are all square. Some incompetent at Humana thinks I still owe somebody something. Not even them, but the provider. Why does Humana even care what I owe a third party? Why are they still churning paperwork, when I'm not with Humana anymore?

The only thing worse than government inefficiency is corporate inefficiency.

 
Indeed. In the last year I have had extensive customer service wrangles with DirectTV, AT&T, COX Communications and now US Cellular. It amazes me that these people are able to accomplish anything.
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Posted: Jun 30, 2014 - 7:31am

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That is just plain irresponsible.

My biggest problem with the government is just that ... efficiency.  What is 10% of a Trillion ?  100 Billion ?

Efficiency incorporates dealing with waste, fraud and abuse.  I would have little problem with some increase in taxes if I knew it was going to be used properly, as would most Americans who inhabit the fiscally conservative side of the aisle.

But as long as efficiency is given a look at with a blind eye, I have a problem. 

The acceptance of governmental incompetence is mindblowing and destroying this country. 

  The mindblowing incompetence of FOR PROFIT companies is what truly is destroying this country. Tried to change your cable TV service lately? Cell phone? Heck, tried to update your Health Insurance information? I'm still getting paperwork from Humana, saying I owe a provider. I have not been with Humana for six months now. I checked with my provider and we are all square. Some incompetent at Humana thinks I still owe somebody something. Not even them, but the provider. Why does Humana even care what I owe a third party? Why are they still churning paperwork, when I'm not with Humana anymore?

The only thing worse than government inefficiency is corporate inefficiency.


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Posted: Jun 30, 2014 - 7:28am

 kurtster wrote:

That is just plain irresponsible.

My biggest problem with the government is just that ... efficiency.  What is 10% of a Trillion ?  100 Billion ?

Efficiency incorporates dealing with waste, fraud and abuse.  I would have little problem with some increase in taxes if I knew it was going to be used properly, as would most Americans who inhabit the fiscally conservative side of the aisle.

But as long as efficiency is given a look at with a blind eye, I have a problem. 

The acceptance of governmental incompetence is mindblowing and destroying this country. 

  I should I have been more clear.  Gov't inefficiency is a HUGE challenge.


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Posted: Jun 30, 2014 - 7:04am

 kurtster wrote:

That is just plain irresponsible.

My biggest problem with the government is just that ... efficiency.  What is 10% of a Trillion ?  100 Billion ?

Efficiency incorporates dealing with waste, fraud and abuse.  I would have little problem with some increase in taxes if I knew it was going to be used properly, as would most Americans who inhabit the fiscally conservative side of the aisle.

But as long as efficiency is given a look at with a blind eye, I have a problem. 

The acceptance of governmental incompetence is mindblowing and destroying this country. 

 
Inefficiency or greed/profit...choose your poison. 

p.s., there's no reason government can't be more efficient if you take the greed out of politics...how much of the inefficiency is caused by corporate involvement (e.g. Haliburton - Iraq)
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Posted: Jun 30, 2014 - 6:55am

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The bureaucrat/politicians or the citizens?

Pretty sure that you mean citizens, but that makes a point too. For whose good is the government, and the programs they author and administer? Unfortunately i think far too little effort is truly civic minded.  And far too little of government spending goes to the most effective vendor, or the benefits efficiently delivered to citizens.  IMO.

I take most chances I get to state the UHC question should be a no-brainer.  It (health care) is used by almost everyone and that makes it a public service as are roads, schools, police, defense, fire, et al., and should be single-payer on that basis alone.  Never mind the efficiency. We have the bureaucracy in place; it doesn't need to be re-invented.  Reduce the age of medicare eligibility to zero. Big Pharma, the insurance companies, medical service/suppliers and their kin, spend Billions in lobbying to make sure this doesn't happen.

We have the best government money can buy for those who have the money to spend.

 
That is just plain irresponsible.

My biggest problem with the government is just that ... efficiency.  What is 10% of a Trillion ?  100 Billion ?

Efficiency incorporates dealing with waste, fraud and abuse.  I would have little problem with some increase in taxes if I knew it was going to be used properly, as would most Americans who inhabit the fiscally conservative side of the aisle.

But as long as efficiency is given a look at with a blind eye, I have a problem. 

The acceptance of governmental incompetence is mindblowing and destroying this country. 
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Posted: Jun 30, 2014 - 6:12am

 miamizsun wrote:

i haven't really looked at this in a while

but i remember reading that there was a huge gap/challenge in funding

not to mention that politicians and bureaucrats are horribly inefficient

i wish them well

{#Good-vibes}

 
The bureaucrat/politicians or the citizens?

Pretty sure that you mean citizens, but that makes a point too. For whose good is the government, and the programs they author and administer? Unfortunately i think far too little effort is truly civic minded.  And far too little of government spending goes to the most effective vendor, or the benefits efficiently delivered to citizens.  IMO.

I take most chances I get to state the UHC question should be a no-brainer.  It (health care) is used by almost everyone and that makes it a public service as are roads, schools, police, defense, fire, et al., and should be single-payer on that basis alone.  Never mind the efficiency. We have the bureaucracy in place; it doesn't need to be re-invented.  Reduce the age of medicare eligibility to zero. Big Pharma, the insurance companies, medical service/suppliers and their kin, spend Billions in lobbying to make sure this doesn't happen.

We have the best government money can buy for those who have the money to spend.
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Posted: Jun 30, 2014 - 5:15am

 RichardPrins wrote:
How Vermont Got a Single-Payer Health Care Bill: A Non-Electoral History

In May of 2011, while the nation feuded over Obama's ACA, Governor Peter Shumlin signed Act 48 into law, and Vermont became the first state to enact single-payer health care.

The legislation sent a jolt throughout the nation, inspiring organizers in a number of states to take Vermont's lead and fight for universal health care access in their own communities. This year is an important moment in the process, as a financing plan is being developed and is scheduled to be passed in 2015. With corporate forces - and moneyed interests - looking to dismantle the state's victories, the struggle will continue as Vermont moves to make the plan operational in 2017.

Most mainstream commentary on "Green Mountain Care" has tended to focus on the progressive politics of the state's leaders. The Atlantic reported that it was, "the culmination of decades of work by progressive politicians in the state." There was also, predictably, a fair amount of talk about Bernie Sanders, Vermont's popular progressive Senator, who had been advocating for a single-payer system for decades.

"I am very proud that my home state of Vermont is now taking big steps to lead the nation in health care by moving forward on a plan to establish a single payer health-care system that puts the interests of patients over chasing profits," Sanders wrote after Act 48 passed, in a Guardian piece. In the most surprising of moves, The New York Times (preferred paper of liberals who still blame Bush's election on Ralph Nader) ran an op-ed by Molly Worthen, saying a great many nice things about Vermont's most popular third party. "Mr. Shumlin is a Democrat, and the bill's passage is a credit to his party," wrote Worthen, "Yet a small upstart spent years building support for reform and nudging the Democrats left: the Vermont Progressive Party." (...)



 
i haven't really looked at this in a while

but i remember reading that there was a huge gap/challenge in funding

not to mention that politicians and bureaucrats are horribly inefficient

i wish them well

{#Good-vibes}


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Posted: Jun 29, 2014 - 1:22pm

How Vermont Got a Single-Payer Health Care Bill: A Non-Electoral History

In May of 2011, while the nation feuded over Obama's ACA, Governor Peter Shumlin signed Act 48 into law, and Vermont became the first state to enact single-payer health care.

The legislation sent a jolt throughout the nation, inspiring organizers in a number of states to take Vermont's lead and fight for universal health care access in their own communities. This year is an important moment in the process, as a financing plan is being developed and is scheduled to be passed in 2015. With corporate forces - and moneyed interests - looking to dismantle the state's victories, the struggle will continue as Vermont moves to make the plan operational in 2017.

Most mainstream commentary on "Green Mountain Care" has tended to focus on the progressive politics of the state's leaders. The Atlantic reported that it was, "the culmination of decades of work by progressive politicians in the state." There was also, predictably, a fair amount of talk about Bernie Sanders, Vermont's popular progressive Senator, who had been advocating for a single-payer system for decades.

"I am very proud that my home state of Vermont is now taking big steps to lead the nation in health care by moving forward on a plan to establish a single payer health-care system that puts the interests of patients over chasing profits," Sanders wrote after Act 48 passed, in a Guardian piece. In the most surprising of moves, The New York Times (preferred paper of liberals who still blame Bush's election on Ralph Nader) ran an op-ed by Molly Worthen, saying a great many nice things about Vermont's most popular third party. "Mr. Shumlin is a Democrat, and the bill's passage is a credit to his party," wrote Worthen, "Yet a small upstart spent years building support for reform and nudging the Democrats left: the Vermont Progressive Party." (...)


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Posted: Jun 12, 2014 - 7:04am

 sirdroseph wrote:


Check that guys bill out in link I posted below, until they take care of the pure cost they are passing on to.....whoever,  any plan is irrelevant whether it be controlled by an incompetent government, ruthless and greedy private sector or any combination thereof.  I have full health care coverage supplied by my employer and cannot afford to get an eye exam and new pair of glasses.......with full insurance coverage.

 
Seems to boil down to higher admin costs, higher labor costs and increased use of services, particularly specialists.  My sons have both broke about 3 bones in the last three years, and each one was referred to a specialist because the break was on a "growth plate."  Neither specialist added any value to treating the bone, which simply involved a cast. 

Couple of stories explaining the cost issue:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/why-does-health-care-cost-so-much-in-america-ask-harvards-david-cutler/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/toddhixon/2012/03/01/why-are-u-s-health-care-costs-so-high/


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Posted: Jun 12, 2014 - 6:55am

a little history and perspective may help


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Posted: Jun 12, 2014 - 6:25am

 black321 wrote:
So the government is a wasteful black hole, but the private sector can be a nightmare when something really bad happens?  Let's see, how about a dual system whereby the private sector manages the small claims - routine exams, minor surgeries... - and Medicare kick's in after a certain deductible covered by private insurance.  Allows a more efficient private system cover the vast majority of all claims, while using Medicare as a social safety net to protect us when we are really sick...protect us from financial distress, bankruptcy...and ensure coverage is actually available.

 

Check that guys bill out in link I posted below, until they take care of the pure cost they are passing on to.....whoever,  any plan is irrelevant whether it be controlled by an incompetent government, ruthless and greedy private sector or any combination thereof.  I have full health care coverage supplied by my employer and cannot afford to get an eye exam and new pair of glasses.......with full insurance coverage.


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Posted: Jun 12, 2014 - 6:13am

So the government is a wasteful black hole, but the private sector can be a nightmare when something really bad happens?  Let's see, how about a dual system whereby the private sector manages the small claims - routine exams, minor surgeries... - and Medicare kick's in after a certain deductible covered by private insurance.  Allows a more efficient private system cover the vast majority of all claims, while using Medicare as a social safety net to protect us when we are really sick...protect us from financial distress, bankruptcy...and ensure coverage is actually available.


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Posted: Jun 11, 2014 - 10:40pm

 oldviolin wrote:

Bottom line for me? The same old argument with, I might add, some inconvenient truth. The government is a poor administrator of resources and a proven mega waster of public funds. How do we have a quality product and manage it fairly apart from the political black hole?

 
This option would scare me ( probably more for my children's sake).  But you're grown ups, you make your own choices. Is this American exceptionalism  in practice? i have never been sure what it means, apparently "qualitatively different than other states".
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