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Posted: Jun 28, 2015 - 5:37pm

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Magnesium

 
Yes, I know and it works. I'm almost out of a topical cream I use ... lovely lavender smelling stuff.
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Posted: Jun 28, 2015 - 4:05pm

My sleep apnea has been triggering my brains end of life "orderly shut down procedure". 3 times that I can remember so far. Nearly the same each time. First clouds, then a break in the clouds. Then beautiful scenery, mountains, forests etc. Then end up at a town where all the buildings are grand and all sorts of architecture but all are in ruins and unoccupied. The town is full of newly dead people streaming through. Some conversations happening but mostly quiet. Then people line up at various doors at a large building. I always wake up coughing before reaching a door. Almost made it once. I guess sustained lack of oxygen triggers this. 
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Posted: Jun 28, 2015 - 3:42pm

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Oh, what a lovely morning! And after such a dreadful night's sleep (in a long stretch of terrible sleeps). Restless legs, temperature regulation issues AND kidnapping themed nightmares. I predict a nap in my future. First: coffee. 

 
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Posted: Jun 28, 2015 - 6:57am

Oh, what a lovely morning! And after such a dreadful night's sleep (in a long stretch of terrible sleeps). Restless legs, temperature regulation issues AND kidnapping themed nightmares. I predict a nap in my future. First: coffee. 
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Posted: Jun 21, 2015 - 8:33pm

 Someone told me that I had a hole in my right front tire and that it had to be fixed before I hit the road.

  And what road is that,Bokey thought while scratching his head and getting up to pee?
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Posted: Jun 14, 2015 - 7:20pm

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"I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE!"
 
 
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Posted: Jun 14, 2015 - 6:15pm

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Ah, right. Well anyway, I was digging around for the etymology of it and someone found a phrase like "red-headed stepchild" in print in 1820 but they didn't think it was original then... but the prevailing thought is that *possibly* it's an Irish slur but probably is a way of saying someone's lineage might be in question. I thought it was sort of interesting that it seems to have been a sort of offhand insult for hundreds of years; that no one actually now or ever put any stock in it. Like it was always used metaphorically. 

 
The Irish thing makes some sense if this was really a slur, but it's not like there aren't a lot of redhead poms (intentional slur used ironically). Since it says 'stepchild', it wouldn't be about questionable lineage. I would guess that redhead were considered trash and step children commonly were treated like shit so it indicates someone who is really bottom of the barrel.

Interesting side note, here in the gold fields of Victoria, there were apparently a fair number of Chinese-Irish marriages during the gold rush because, socially, they were considered to be in the same low-class. 
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Posted: Jun 14, 2015 - 6:03pm

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Posted: Jun 14, 2015 - 6:03pm

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Recent examples of massive Internet lynch mobs on Twitter and even FB come to mind.  

This being the most recent example:  http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/13/tim-hunt-hung-out-to-dry-interview-mary-collins

 
Yeah, but I reserve the word "hate" for something more than phenomenal assholery witch hunt/lynch mobs. /semantics

And that's a ridiculous extreme but I know what you're saying. The power to get someone removed for being inconsiderate is too great for the general public to have. 
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Posted: Jun 14, 2015 - 5:56pm

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That's what I don't get.  It's been around for a long long time, and I'm sure it was originally a slur.  It's strange what different societies decide are undesirable (or desirable) traits.

 
I'm not, really. Except in the sense that calling someone a bastard is a slur. Everyone knows the red-hair gene runs a little unpredictably sometimes, even centuries ago, but a red-headed kid in a family that's otherwise all non-redhead might always cause mom, dad, and every neighbor everywhere to raise an eyebrow. So that might always make for some uncomfortable hesitation. But to say "you redhead, you!" won't get them all riled up. They'll be like, yeah?
  


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Posted: Jun 14, 2015 - 5:47pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Ah, right. Well anyway, I was digging around for the etymology of it and someone found a phrase like "red-headed stepchild" in print in 1820 but they didn't think it was original then... but the prevailing thought is that *possibly* it's an Irish slur but probably is a way of saying someone's lineage might be in question. I thought it was sort of interesting that it seems to have been a sort of offhand insult for hundreds of years; that no one actually now or ever put any stock in it. Like it was always used metaphorically. 

 
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Posted: Jun 14, 2015 - 5:46pm

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But that's not really hate. It's loud, or it's vile. There are plenty of examples of hate on the internet, but it's usually self-containing. The rude runs rampant.

 
Recent examples of massive Internet lynch mobs on Twitter and even FB come to mind.  

This being the most recent example:  http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/13/tim-hunt-hung-out-to-dry-interview-mary-collins
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Posted: Jun 14, 2015 - 5:43pm

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How Long Can The Internet Run on Hate?
Social media has become a toxic place where the loudest and vilest rule. That’s not what the Internet was supposed to be.
 
But that's not really hate. It's loud, or it's vile. There are plenty of examples of hate on the internet, but it's usually self-containing. The rude runs rampant.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2015 - 5:42pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Ah, right. Well anyway, I was digging around for the etymology of it and someone found a phrase like "red-headed stepchild" in print in 1820 but they didn't think it was original then... but the prevailing thought is that *possibly* it's an Irish slur but probably is a way of saying someone's lineage might be in question. I thought it was sort of interesting that it seems to have been a sort of offhand insult for hundreds of years; that no one actually now or ever put any stock in it. Like it was always used metaphorically. 

 
That's what I don't get.  It's been around for a long long time, and I'm sure it was originally a slur.  It's strange what different societies decide are undesirable (or desirable) traits.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2015 - 5:39pm

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Ooooh.  I'll be sure to deduct this remark from that invoice I have yet to see.  

 
Ah, right. Well anyway, I was digging around for the etymology of it and someone found a phrase like "red-headed stepchild" in print in 1820 but they didn't think it was original then... but the prevailing thought is that *possibly* it's an Irish slur but probably is a way of saying someone's lineage might be in question. I thought it was sort of interesting that it seems to have been a sort of offhand insult for hundreds of years; that no one actually now or ever put any stock in it. Like it was always used metaphorically. 
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Posted: Jun 14, 2015 - 5:26pm

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At the risk of being serious, I think it is about channeling the innate human ability for cruel jokes into harassing the most WASP minority available.

But yeah, blonde jokes. 

 
Delving a bit further into serious-land, this arrived today: 


How Long Can The Internet Run on Hate?
Social media has become a toxic place where the loudest and vilest rule. That’s not what the Internet was supposed to be.

Of course anyone these days who places a whit of truth in blonde jokes isn't playing with a full deck.  They need to get with the times! We ridicule the shit out of a person's politics now, because mocking religions wasn't satisfying enough!
 



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Posted: Jun 14, 2015 - 5:21pm

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Keep it up, I'll beat you like a red-headed stepchild.  

 
Ooooh.  I'll be sure to deduct this remark from that invoice I have yet to see.  
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Posted: Jun 14, 2015 - 5:12pm

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Non sequitur alert: I don't get the whole ginger shaming thing.   I just don't.  When I see people mocking "gingers" I want to slap them.  Like, would they say the same thing to brunettes?  Seems like largely a British thing anyway. 

 
At the risk of being serious, I think it is about channeling the innate human ability for cruel jokes into harassing the most WASP minority available.

But yeah, blonde jokes. 
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Posted: Jun 14, 2015 - 3:49pm

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Non sequitur alert: I don't get the whole ginger shaming thing.   I just don't.  When I see people mocking "gingers" I want to slap them.  Like, would they say the same thing to brunettes?  Seems like largely a British thing anyway. 

 
Keep it up, I'll beat you like a red-headed stepchild.  
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