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Posted: May 29, 2015 - 5:13pm

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Posted: May 29, 2015 - 4:54pm

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Mankind is truly fvcked once some weaponry is added and Darpa installs Skynet into that thing.

 
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Posted: May 29, 2015 - 10:08am

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Mankind is truly fvcked once some weaponry is added and Darpa installs Skynet into that thing.
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Posted: May 27, 2015 - 2:50pm

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The Trouble With Scientists

How one psychologist is tackling human biases in science.

 

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one of the reasons i posted this was that ball referenced retraction watch and more importantly this

Oransky believes that, while all of the incentives in science reinforce confirmation biases, the exigencies of publication are among the most problematic. “To get tenure, grants, and recognition, scientists need to publish frequently in major journals,” he says. “That encourages positive and ‘breakthrough’ findings, since the latter are what earn citations and impact factor. So it’s not terribly surprising that scientists fool themselves into seeing perfect groundbreaking results among their experimental findings.”

Nosek agrees, saying one of the strongest distorting influences is the reward systems that confer kudos, tenure, and funding. “To advance my career I need to get published as frequently as possible in the highest-profile publications as possible. That means I must produce articles that are more likely to get published.” These, he says, are ones that report positive results (“I have discovered …”, not “I have disproved …”), original results (never “We confirm previous findings that …”), and clean results (“We show that …”, not “It is not clear how to interpret these results”). But “most of what happens in the lab doesn’t look like that”, says Nosek—instead, it’s mush. “How do I get from mush to beautiful results?” he asks. “I could be patient, or get lucky—or I could take the easiest way, making often unconscious decisions about which data I select and how I analyze them, so that a clean story emerges. But in that case, I am sure to be biased in my reasoning.”

and nosek was inspired do something about it

Nosek has since devoted himself to making science work better.10 He is convinced that the process and progress of science would be smoothed by bringing these biases to light—which means making research more transparent in its methods, assumptions, and interpretations. “Fighting these issues isn’t easy, because they are cultural challenges—and no one person can change a culture,” he says. “So I started with the issue that I could control: the power of my research designs.”

Surprisingly, Nosek thinks that one of the most effective solutions to cognitive bias in science could come from the discipline that has weathered some of the heaviest criticism recently for its error-prone and self-deluding ways: pharmacology. It is precisely because these problems are so manifest in the pharmaceutical industry that this community is, in Nosek’s view, way ahead of the rest of science in dealing with them. For example, because of the known tendency of drug companies and their collaborators to report positive results of trials and to soft-pedal negative ones, it is now a legal requirement in the Unites States for all clinical trials to be entered in a registry before they begin. This obliges the researchers to report the results whatever they say.

Nosek has instituted a similar pre-registration scheme for research called the Open Science Framework (OSF). He had planned it for many years, but it really took off when former software developer Jeff Spies joined his lab in 2009-2010 and took it on as a dissertation project. “Lots of people got involved and it became a much bigger thing pretty quickly,” says Nosek. “We started a website for the OSF, and a community—and funders—gathered around it.” Nosek and Spies cofounded the Center for Open Science in Charlottesville in 2013, which now administers the OSF and is able to offer its services for free.

The idea, says Nosek, is that researchers “write down in advance what their study is for and what they think will happen.” Then when they do their experiments, they agree to be bound to analyzing the results strictly within the confines of that original plan. It sounds utterly elementary, like the kind of thing we teach children about how to do science. And indeed it is—but it is rarely what happens. Instead, as Fiedler testifies, the analysis gets made on the basis of all kinds of unstated and usually unconscious assumptions about what would or wouldn’t be seen. Nosek says that researchers who have used the OSF have often been amazed at how, by the time they come to look at their results, the project has diverged from the original aims they’d stated.





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Posted: May 27, 2015 - 1:30pm

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On the brighter side, Carl Carlton did do "Everlasting Love" some years later.
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Posted: May 27, 2015 - 11:23am

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 I can feel the PMs headed in.
 
 
 
 
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Posted: May 27, 2015 - 11:00am

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So you speak for everyone here.  How nice.

There are plenty of people here who I do agree with on many points.  But the dominant viewpoint has systematically shut down all discussion between those who agree on things contrary to a certain point of view.  This tribe has become very intolerant of any discussion, no matter how amicable between parties that doesn't go along with that certain point of view.

You and others are trying to turn this place into FB where only those who agree with certain views are allowed to participate.  You wish there was an ignore button or a way to delete posts that disagree with yours.  Just wishing for that is a demonstration of intolerance.  But there isn't.  This is like meat space where just because there may be disagreement on matters it doesn't end up in ad hominen shouting matches.   Civilized people know how to peacefully disagree, else there would be anarchy.

What is different from an intolerant point of view and ISIS ?  Convert or die is what you are asking.  Fall in line or leave, we don't like your kind of thinking, regardless of its merits.  We disagree on things, but I'm not telling you to shut up or choke on pixie dust.

Oh and yes I had a good holiday, thanks for asking.  Hope yours was enjoyable as well.

peace, out ... 

 
No, that's really not how it is. It may not jibe with the way you want it to be, but it's not the dissenting opinion that puts people off, it's your insistence on being an asshat.  Plenty of people here disagree about plenty of topics. A couple are heated enough that a lot won't participate. Most of the ground has been trod so many times it's probably not worth going over again. But people don't hate you because your a republican (sure you're not, teaparty, randian,  whatever), people hate you because you are an asshat.

I'm sure you think I'm being an asshat as well, and I am. It's cause you won't take a hint. Lots of people will criticize me for jumping on you now, I can feel the PMs headed in. But JFC you can be insufferable and when you are like this it takes a big stick to whack you back to tolerable. I'm not asking you to leave, just to leave your lunacy. No, I don't have moderator points, but I do have the right to call you on it when I see you doing it over and over again.  You don't have to listen, but you might be taken a little more seriously if you did.

I've said my peace, I'll go on my way now. But expect to hear it again in a couple months if/when you rile up again. 
 
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Posted: May 27, 2015 - 10:37am

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Nice misdirection. You're not debating or even trying to legitimately make a point. You are just crying victim and throwing poo.  You aren't dissenting, you are crying that the world won't echo your worldview, boo hoo. 

Yeah, it's a personal attack. I'm as sick of your shit as you apparently are of all of ours. 

 
So you speak for everyone here.  How nice.

There are plenty of people here who I do agree with on many points.  But the dominant viewpoint has systematically shut down all discussion between those who agree on things contrary to a certain point of view.  This tribe has become very intolerant of any discussion, no matter how amicable between parties that doesn't go along with that certain point of view.

You and others are trying to turn this place into FB where only those who agree with certain views are allowed to participate.  You wish there was an ignore button or a way to delete posts that disagree with yours.  Just wishing for that is a demonstration of intolerance.  But there isn't.  This is like meat space where just because there may be disagreement on matters it doesn't end up in ad hominen shouting matches.   Civilized people know how to peacefully disagree, else there would be anarchy.

What is different from an intolerant point of view and ISIS ?  Convert or die is what you are asking.  Fall in line or leave, we don't like your kind of thinking, regardless of its merits.  We disagree on things, but I'm not telling you to shut up or choke on pixie dust.

Oh and yes I had a good holiday, thanks for asking.  Hope yours was enjoyable as well.

peace, out ... 


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Posted: May 27, 2015 - 10:15am

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(...) As to those disagree, there is no tolerance for any dissent on the subject.  Being called a denier is simple proof of that.

See the post below yours.
 
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Posted: May 27, 2015 - 9:50am

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Nice personal attack.  You're becoming quite accomplished with them.

As to those disagree, there is no tolerance for any dissent on the subject.  Being called a denier is simple proof of that.

See the post below yours. 

 
Nice misdirection. You're not debating or even trying to legitimately make a point. You are just crying victim and throwing poo.  You aren't dissenting, you are crying that the world won't echo your worldview, boo hoo. 

Yeah, it's a personal attack. I'm as sick of your shit as you apparently are of all of ours. 
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Posted: May 27, 2015 - 9:46am

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What airline?  The mixed drinks you get on a plane are usually pretty sub-par, but I might try that.

 
Probably Delta... or United.  
 
I think if you're on a flight that offers cocktails, they probably keep snap-e-tom on hand but just don't necessarily promote it. So I guess ask 'em. 
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Posted: May 27, 2015 - 9:39am

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What's gotten you all worked up?  Didn't get any holiday? Too much adrenaline left in your system from your scary encounter with the scary criminals? Bee in your bonnet?  

 
Nice personal attack.  You're becoming quite accomplished with them.

As to those disagree, there is no tolerance for any dissent on the subject.  Being called a denier is simple proof of that.

See the post below yours. 
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Posted: May 27, 2015 - 9:36am

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I've actually never done that. I just drink imaginary bloody marys ... but the last flight I was on offered Snap-E-Tom... since I don't really like vodka, that was the best bloody mary yet. But speaking of cheap, the drinks prices on a plane seem high, but when you factor in that the crew aren't allowed to accept tips, it comes out pretty even...

 
What airline?  The mixed drinks you get on a plane are usually pretty sub-par, but I might try that.
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Posted: May 27, 2015 - 9:33am

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I've actually never done that. I just drink imaginary bloody marys ... but the last flight I was on offered Snap-E-Tom... since I don't really like vodka, that was the best bloody mary yet. But speaking of cheap, the drinks prices on a plane seem high, but when you factor in that the crew aren't allowed to accept tips, it comes out pretty even...

 
In HS, I went out with the daughter of the inventor and owner of Snap-E-Tom.  We dated for awhile but didn't hit it off really well.  But she figured that I was a decent enough guy so she set me up with her friend who is now my wife.  That was nearly 48 years ago.  Friday October 13, 2017 will be the 50th anniversary of our first date.
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Posted: May 27, 2015 - 9:33am

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The most common use of the phrase is with Global Warming.  We hear it used everywhere regarding the topic.  Here included.  Its usage states that we know everything about it and the case is closed.  I disagree. 
 
So what? What level of standard do you think we need to achieve before we act on something? At what point can we stop experimenting and actually go use the knowledge gained?  Does it just have to be knowledge you agree with or that won't impact you personally?

And so what if you disagree? Again - it's always open for discussion, but you need to have some evidence, some reproducible experiment, some smidgen of a trace of some rational thought that doesn't end with "see, you guys aren't so smart after all, I knew it all along".  



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  There is also widespread disagreement in the scientific community.
  
No, there really isn't. but feel free to keep spouting this. It exposes you and your sources quite well.

What's gotten you all worked up?  Didn't get any holiday? Too much adrenaline left in your system from your scary encounter with the scary criminals? Bee in your bonnet?  

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Posted: May 27, 2015 - 9:22am

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The most common use of the phrase is with Global Warming.  We hear it used everywhere regarding the topic.  Here included.  Its usage states that we know everything about it and the case is closed.  I disagree.  There is also widespread disagreement in the scientific community.
 
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Posted: May 27, 2015 - 9:12am

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Once again you demonstrate your basic misunderstanding of real science (and also manage to demonstrate your continued will to tilt at intellectual windmills). Real science is never settled. Have an alternate theory?  Write it up, get some funding, do some experiments, publish your results. Others will try to reproduce your results, and if they can then you get acceptance and maybe tenure or a nice plaque. Sure we say some things are settled, because there has been so much work one and the results so consistent. But even those ideas would be open for challenge if you had any real evidence.  But you don't, so you just keep up with your anti-intellectual 'gotcha' crap.  But hey, it's reproducible, so we can count on it.  

 
The most common use of the phrase is with Global Warming.  We hear it used everywhere regarding the topic.  Here included.  Its usage states that we know everything about it and the case is closed.  I disagree.  There is also widespread disagreement in the scientific community.

 
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