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Posted: Jul 20, 2016 - 7:01am

 Steely_D wrote:

Only if it's matched up with birth control. We're already overpopulated, and having people live longer isn't a good thing.

Yes, I'm one of those.
  

see the stuff i've posted regarding hans rosling (immigration thread, etc.)
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Posted: Jul 19, 2016 - 7:54pm

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A biotech firm hopes that DNA will hold the answer to fighting that mother of diseases: aging.

Human Longevity, Inc., says it can sequence a person's DNA and combine it with other clinical tests to identify how long someone will live, and what can be done to extend a patient's life, even before a budding disease, such as cancer, shows symptoms.



 
Only if it's matched up with birth control. We're already overpopulated, and having people live longer isn't a good thing.

Yes, I'm one of those.

 
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Posted: Jul 19, 2016 - 4:49pm


A biotech firm hopes that DNA will hold the answer to fighting that mother of diseases: aging.

Human Longevity, Inc., says it can sequence a person's DNA and combine it with other clinical tests to identify how long someone will live, and what can be done to extend a patient's life, even before a budding disease, such as cancer, shows symptoms.


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Posted: Jul 15, 2016 - 12:34pm

Vaccine that targets second Alzheimers protein reverse the disease once it has developed, human trials in two to three years

Researchers at Adelaide’s Flinders University have made an Alzheimer’s breakthrough that may result in world’s first dementia vaccine. Developed by Australian and US scientists, this vaccine may not only prevent but also reverse early stages of Alzheimer’s, the most common form of dementia. The Alzheimer’s vaccine may be tested on humans within the next two to three years with US Government funding. Scientists from Flinders University and America’s Institute of Molecular Medicine and University of California developed the vaccine by targeting proteins in the brain that block neurons. The formula targets tau proteins and abnormal beta-amyloid that cause Alzheimer’s. The scientists are confident that the vaccine would eventually be used as preventative vaccine. According to Flinders University medicine professor Nikolai Petrovsky, the proteins must be removed from the brain as Alzheimer’s, and dementia sufferers have lots of these broken down proteins inside. The World Health Organisation (WHO) has projected a US$600 billion (AU$790 billion) cost per year as total global societal cost of dementia-related illnesses and care. The WHO also noted there are 7.7 million new cases every year. The first protein “to go wrong” was a-beta. However, targeting the second protein tau actually helped reverse the progression. Targeting the tau protein with the vaccine you can actually reverse the disease even once it has developed.
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Posted: Jul 8, 2016 - 9:04am

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generally individuals, groups or companies don't do this on their own
 
Individuals or groups or companies don't use technology to cause harm and destruction on their own?

You've never heard of arson? Murder by firearm? Car bombing?
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Posted: Jul 8, 2016 - 6:46am

 miamizsun wrote:

sure if your goal was this





these were government projects specifically designed to harm people/property

generally individuals, groups or companies don't do this on their own

hard to retail this stuff (b-52s and warheads) at walmart

the war, death and destruction market is pretty much for governments

even the scientists weren't happy about bbqing fellow humans

i think there was a petition with 50-60 signatures of those scientists urging the president not to use it

i should have been more specific (for the hair splitters and nit pickers {#Wink})

normally outside of the govt market i suspect technology designed by folks like yourself is intended to solve a problems not create them

at my next cookout i could take my t-rex spatula and sever my neighbors hand for inadvertently reaching for my beer or worse trying to put steak sauce on a ribeye

but then i would have to clean that up

 

I think a lot of people take the decision to use nukes when they did, out of context. We were already fire-bombing the crap out of them and they still had no intentions of surrendering. They were in fact digging in and preparing to fight for every inch in the expected ground invasion in which it was estimated it would cost over a million american lives to accomplish. I am not saying it was the right thing, but one could argue that many lives were saved on both sides by bringing it to a swift end. Of course, no war at all is always the best option. There is an almost inevitability that someone will use technology to whatever means at some point. No one did use the a bomb on a population after us, which says something (so far).


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Posted: Jul 7, 2016 - 5:44pm

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Actually the reverse is often true. Easier to use new technology/science to destroy than to preserve/help.

The atom bomb was the first practical use of atomic fission. Power plants came along after additional technological development.

Want to use gasoline to burn down your neighborhood cooperative farm buildings? Just pour it on and light a match. Want to use it to propel your vehicle? You will need a sophisticated device (an otto cycle engine) to accomplish your goal.
 
sure if your goal was this





these were government projects specifically designed to harm people/property

generally individuals, groups or companies don't do this on their own

hard to retail this stuff (b-52s and warheads) at walmart

the war, death and destruction market is pretty much for governments

even the scientists weren't happy about bbqing fellow humans

i think there was a petition with 50-60 signatures of those scientists urging the president not to use it

i should have been more specific (for the hair splitters and nit pickers {#Wink})

normally outside of the govt market i suspect technology designed by folks like yourself is intended to solve a problems not create them

at my next cookout i could take my t-rex spatula and sever my neighbors hand for inadvertently reaching for my beer or worse trying to put steak sauce on a ribeye

but then i would have to clean that up
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Posted: Jul 7, 2016 - 11:54am

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 aflanigan wrote:
Actually the reverse is often true. Easier to use new technology/science to destroy than to preserve/help.

The atom bomb was the first practical use of atomic fission. Power plants came along after additional technological development.

Want to use gasoline to burn down your neighborhood cooperative farm buildings? Just pour it on and light a match. Want to use it to propel your vehicle? You will need a sophisticated device (an otto cycle engine) to accomplish your goal. 

This is true, but we always seem to learn the wrong lessons from it.

We look at the new and see the easy thing, the destruction. We don't see the difficult thing, the worthwhile thing, the one that makes the new our servant rather than our oppressor.

We look at fire and see burning trees, but not a warm home or safe food or bricks that won't melt in the rain.

We look at the atom and see mushroom clouds, but not the clean power that can replace fire and protect the planet from overusing it.

We look at biotechnology and see plague blankets, but miss the conquering of disease, the cures for congenital conditions, the feeding of the hungry without plowing up the entire earth.

We have primitive minds and instincts that tell us to fear everything. We need to see beyond what's easy and use our imaginations for more than conjuring demons in the dark. We need to let the beneficial develop, let it get ahead of the destructive. Because the people who want to use the new for destructive purposes already can—it's easy. It always is. We need to let people harness new technologies for good, and that takes more time and effort. It takes reason and curiosity and creativity rather than fear.

Or we can go back to shivering in the dark, afraid of the noises outside. That's easy too.

 
Some learn the wrong lessons from it (modern day Luddites, I guess you could say).

My point is that it is inappropriate to assume that the potential for good in new technologies has the intrinsic ability to prevent misuse, and that we don't need to take responsibility for ensuring that misuse is prevented or minimized. Science, like any tool, is value-neutral. We are compelled to concern ourselves with the motives and aims of those who pick up the tool to use it.


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Posted: Jul 6, 2016 - 8:03pm

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Interesting but also scary. What if you create RNA that attacks very specific but healthy DNA? Kill certain groups of humans...
Maybe it also can influence behaviour or things like evil birth control.
Future you are scary!

 
Brings up the interesting moral problem I've been considering recently. If cultures that favour male children could engineer fertilisation by only XX sperm, would that be moral? Even if you don't approve of those decisions, is it better than abortion, adoption, abandonment of unwanted babies?
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Posted: Jul 6, 2016 - 6:27pm

 aflanigan wrote:
Actually the reverse is often true. Easier to use new technology/science to destroy than to preserve/help.

The atom bomb was the first practical use of atomic fission. Power plants came along after additional technological development.

Want to use gasoline to burn down your neighborhood cooperative farm buildings? Just pour it on and light a match. Want to use it to propel your vehicle? You will need a sophisticated device (an otto cycle engine) to accomplish your goal. 

This is true, but we always seem to learn the wrong lessons from it.

We look at the new and see the easy thing, the destruction. We don't see the difficult thing, the worthwhile thing, the one that makes the new our servant rather than our oppressor.

We look at fire and see burning trees, but not a warm home or safe food or bricks that won't melt in the rain.

We look at the atom and see mushroom clouds, but not the clean power that can replace fire and protect the planet from overusing it.

We look at biotechnology and see plague blankets, but miss the conquering of disease, the cures for congenital conditions, the feeding of the hungry without plowing up the entire earth.

We have primitive minds and instincts that tell us to fear everything. We need to see beyond what's easy and use our imaginations for more than conjuring demons in the dark. We need to let the beneficial develop, let it get ahead of the destructive. Because the people who want to use the new for destructive purposes already can—it's easy. It always is. We need to let people harness new technologies for good, and that takes more time and effort. It takes reason and curiosity and creativity rather than fear.

Or we can go back to shivering in the dark, afraid of the noises outside. That's easy too.
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Posted: Jul 6, 2016 - 9:36am

 miamizsun wrote:

it's more difficult to harm

 
Actually the reverse is often true. Easier to use new technology/science to destroy than to preserve/help.

The atom bomb was the first practical use of atomic fission. Power plants came along after additional technological development.

Want to use gasoline to burn down your neighborhood cooperative farm buildings? Just pour it on and light a match. Want to use it to propel your vehicle? You will need a sophisticated device (an otto cycle engine) to accomplish your goal. 
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Posted: Jul 5, 2016 - 6:30am

 Kaw wrote:
Interesting but also scary. What if you create RNA that attacks very specific but healthy DNA? Kill certain groups of humans...
Maybe it also can influence behaviour or things like evil birth control.
Future you are scary!
 
anything can be used for evil purposes

it is important to distinguish between intent and unintentional accidents (say like a self driving accident)

this genie isn't going back into the bottle

it's more difficult to harm

especially if your philosophy (human action behavior/science) is properly motivated

regards



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Posted: Jul 5, 2016 - 6:15am

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digitizing biology allows to hop on the back of moore's law (in a sense)

this looks promising...

Programmable RNA vaccines are 100% effective in mice against Ebola and Flu and vaccines against new diseases could be made in seven days

to be rapidly deployed in response to disease outbreaks. So far, they have designed vaccines against Ebola, H1N1 influenza, and Toxoplasma gondii (a relative of the parasite that causes malaria), which were 100 percent effective in tests in mice. The vaccine consists of strands of genetic material known as messenger RNA, which can be designed to code for any viral, bacterial, or parasitic protein. These molecules are then packaged into a molecule that delivers the RNA into cells, where it is translated into proteins that provoke an immune response from the host. In addition to targeting infectious diseases, the researchers are using this approach to create cancer vaccines that would teach the immune system to recognize and destroy tumors.

more...

 
Interesting but also scary. What if you create RNA that attacks very specific but healthy DNA? Kill certain groups of humans...
Maybe it also can influence behaviour or things like evil birth control.
Future you are scary!
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Posted: Jul 5, 2016 - 6:03am

digitizing biology allows to hop on the back of moore's law (in a sense)

this looks promising...

Programmable RNA vaccines are 100% effective in mice against Ebola and Flu and vaccines against new diseases could be made in seven days

to be rapidly deployed in response to disease outbreaks. So far, they have designed vaccines against Ebola, H1N1 influenza, and Toxoplasma gondii (a relative of the parasite that causes malaria), which were 100 percent effective in tests in mice. The vaccine consists of strands of genetic material known as messenger RNA, which can be designed to code for any viral, bacterial, or parasitic protein. These molecules are then packaged into a molecule that delivers the RNA into cells, where it is translated into proteins that provoke an immune response from the host. In addition to targeting infectious diseases, the researchers are using this approach to create cancer vaccines that would teach the immune system to recognize and destroy tumors.

more...


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Posted: Jul 1, 2016 - 4:35am

Apple Patents Concert Camera Blocker

Concerts aren't the only things it could be used to block. 
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Posted: May 20, 2016 - 7:18am

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Interesting. Our last couple of governments have been screwing around with whether to go with fiber to node or copper for the National Broadband Network.

They just ran fiber optic for the NBN down the other side of the street from my house but as near as I can tell, there are no plans to actually make it available in my neighbourhood where I can't even get the faster DSL speeds. I live on the wrong side of the tracks and we are ignored. {#Fire}

 
there are some things on the horizon that are very interesting that may help in this type of situation

in additional to some nice hardware, starry is planning on getting into the provider market with really fast wireless

there are a of couple videos on their site you (and others) should watch

i know the question is when

the tech is literally here, the access is the hitch

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Posted: May 18, 2016 - 6:56pm

 miamizsun wrote:
g.fast looks like it may be rolling out soon

extremely fast internet speed over regular phone lines

 
Interesting. Our last couple of governments have been screwing around with whether to go with fiber to node or copper for the National Broadband Network.

They just ran fiber optic for the NBN down the other side of the street from my house but as near as I can tell, there are no plans to actually make it available in my neighbourhood where I can't even get the faster DSL speeds. I live on the wrong side of the tracks and we are ignored. {#Fire}
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