Finally some FZ on RP!
.....beside 'Apostrophe','One Size Fits All','Sheik Yerbouti','The Grand Wazoo','In New York','Joe's Garage','Them Or Us','200 Motels','Sleep Dirt','Studio Tan','Hot Rats','We're Only In It For The Money','Weesels Ripped My Flash','Freak Out!', 'Bongo Fury','Fillmore 1971','Just Another Band From LA','Roxy & Elsewhere', and all the others...

Does anyone know who the 2nd male voice in this song is...?

Yay Bill! Great stuff! More Audience please! Maybe I should just upload all of their CD "Unchained".

Like it, but it seems we're hearing it a bit too much these days on RP...

which war?

Yeah, though I like John Bonham, I actually think Keith is a little better...(

Peter Garrett is an absolute fucking legend! One of the few true australian's left. Get John Howard out of parlimanet and put this man in his place!

Huh. Quite right.
"We were the first band to vomit in the bar, and find the distance to the stage too far"!
('course, I don't remember if Iggy came before or after... rolling around on broken glass bits onstage is pretty damn punk.)

We agree!

I HATE RUSH!
:puke:

N I C E

Good Grace Slick sound with Laurie Anderson highlights.

why so much bad music this morning. you're killin me over here.

AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH! I've always hated John Lennon going back 30 years...

Undoubtedly!

You know, sometimes, I think age really mellows you out. I can't say I cared that much for Bob when I was younger and yet over the last 6 months I have come to be a humongous Bob fan.....can't get enough of Bob....old stuff or even newer. It all really happened when I broke up with a long term beau and a friend said you need to listen to the ultimate break up album...Blood On the Tracks. I had to admit....I am not quite that bitter towards the ex but through that album and a few others, I became a huge fan. Also became a fan watching Scorcese's "No Direction Home". A good insight into Bob's life as much as he will let you in. Also read his biography...Chronicles, Vol 1 which was fabulous.

soooo good

Vivaldi and then Kashmir?

It doesn't get any better!!!

Uh, Stevie died many years ago.

The only real problem I have with the False Flag theory is that it must have involved quite a lot of people to pull off properly, not just "government agents" but a lot of people in everyday positions must have looked the other way or had their workday seriously tampered with. People are notoriously talkative so several lekas should have surfaced by now.
Naturally there are ways to silence people... Money, Threats, Accidents and of course Mysterious Disappearances always work fine.

Maybe a public fund offering big fat anonymous rewards for people showing evidence for a cover up would be the way to go. =)

Stevie's good, but why doesn't he move me like Jimi Hendrix does?

I think it's because he's technically brilliant, but there's just no soul there.

Yes. Too bad they were in their prime over 30 years ago.

Pity bout the hick who writes such comments. Is that the best you can come up with?
GB is an American treasure. If I was prez he'd be getting one of those Medals of Honor for reminding us about all that is good in life.

I'm shocked at the amount of dislike for the Doors here on RP...

....y'all crack me up though with the "pope" stuff. If you were held continually accountable for all the stoopid stuff you did in your youth.... a ha...

People who don't like this song have no sense of humor.

(How's that for tolerance?!?)

Lucifer would never want God's mercy, he's too busy convincing men that we don't need it. Saying no to mercy and grace is the only un-forgivable sin. It's a gift. If you don't accept it, you don't receive it.

Powerful song indeed.

This makes me want to hear to some Frank Zappa. Zappa would take this to another level.

.....I have uploaded the lead track from Zulu Jive and it's being reviewed now on the LRC. It's not one that Simon appropriated, but it's great. If it gets accepted I'll post the ones that were redone on Graceland. Look for Selishonile Ilanga by Aaron Mbambo. It'll stick in your head for days at least. Been in mine for over 20 years.

Oops, just realized I have heard of him...just didn't know he has solo stuff as well.

Post Script on that.....every song from The White Album deserves a top rating!

"I own every bell that tolls me."

Dunno what it means, but I like it.

There's a trend at RP that I'm noticing -

#1: "I really love this"
#2: "I really hate this"
#3: "You, #2, are an idiot."

Which is much meaner than it needs to be. Can we keep this about the music instead of insulting the poster for their opinion? It would be so much less...Republican, and so much more in line with what the Beatles were trying to stand for, right?

bill i sense your playing for a certain audience sometimes. one who's compassionate is one gives more for the cause (donations) *cough*sellout*cough*

You are, without any competition, the most smug, arrogant, self-righteous and pompous blowhard on RP.Sad.

And I've never tried to impress you or anyone here. I just try to keep the commenting fair. And that means allowing for the negative and ignorant comments, too.

That is really cool...
Your dog have probably better musical perception than some of the Radio Paradise listeners...Who would give a low rate (1) to this wondeful song?!!

I would. And I did.......but you don't have a right to say that a dog has better musical perception than I.

Yes, Yes, Yes!

What, the way you and everyone else with too tight a rectum on these boards are behaving?

When will you freakin' uptight posters get it: our opinions are our own, and they're not always directly connected to our knowledge of something. Plenty of well-educated classical musicians hate Jazz, for their own reasons. Plenty of ignorant music lovers may hate your precious Frank Zappa (but I think he's awesome).

That's why they're opinions! They're not measures of a bands influence/impact, and they certainly don't have to line up with "common knowledge" or average opinion.

No matter what folks spout about "not getting it" or artists intentions, or cultural impact, or historic value, the message being screamed loud and clear is, "I'm pissed off that you don't like what I like." We don't have to like the same art. The moment you think we do, you try to rob art of its subjectivity and its ability to reach different people in different ways.

What a cultural hotpot ! Even some Kwela & shades of Mannenburg mixed in !

Very nice...

try RL Burnside version

Just had to push this one up a bit.

The lyrics are a little odd... "seems like the wrath of the gods got a punch on the nose, and it started to flow, I think I might be sinkin'"

All you need is a little heart & soul really.....

as well as a sense of irony and humor

Oh redneck...huh, well thats mature. I'm glad when it comes to debating a subject, you advance to name calling. It really supports your cause. And if being American and being able to voice my opinion makes you a redneck so be it. If you read my blurb maybe you might realize I am on your side of the argument about the war. Its unfortunate that people like you who have no intelligence for debate consider name calling fair play. I wouldn't stoop to your level in a debate, I need a more intellectual conversation. Why don't you reread this blurb and see what my point is and if you still can't figure it out then the war opposition has far greater problems.

Marley wasn't a seer, he was a dope-head saddo.

I'm compelled to concur with the others here: hot goddamn, that was a smooth segue (from Paco De Lucia - Concierto de Aranjuez to this).

I don't know if the left channel was Paco de Lucia....

Go raibh maith agat!

I'm a huge Marley fan, but I gotta say........ this song, while I love it, always creeps me out a bit. "This could be the first trumpet, might as well be the last". Yikes! 'Cause there is a natural mystic in the air right now.

With a moniker like "flyboy" you're not about to have your viewpoint regarding the military changed. I'm sure it's set in stone, so I'm not even going to try. However, I would like to add my comments to something you wrote on Sept 09. To set the record straight, I served in the US army from Jan 1968 till Jan 1971 (that's right, RA, not US) and I am foursquare against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Furthermore, I am a member of Veterans for Peace and I took part in a protest march here in Warsaw in 2003 just before the US invaded Iraq. Now to the reasons for my opposition. These two wars being waged by the US are illegal and based totally on lies, the most egregious of which you repeated in your post. I won't address them, rah did that already, but I would like to comment on the biggest lie of all. The attacks on NYC and the Pentagon were not carried out by 19 muslims, as the US government has been telling the world for five years. They were done by elements of the Bush administration in order to produce fear, promote hatred, and generate public support for a war designed to position the US strategically in the world's top oil producing region. The "war on terror" is bogus, it's a tool for manipulating public opinon and ensuring the submissiveness of US citizens to ever more Draconian measures. Last week, as a citizen, you lost the right of habeaus corpus, a law that has been part of western legal systems since before the Magna Carta (1215). Is that what your soldiers are fighting and dying for? And who took that right away from you? A lying chickenhawk who never even served on active duty. Is that who your soldiers are fighting and dying for, flyboy?

She's not a chick...she's an angel! At least she sings like one.

But with a Beatles reference!!! Now how does that sit!!!!

Come on man...be a little more coherant...I'm not taking either side here, but first you say:

"Your education taught you to ignore your inner voice. Your brain overwrites your heart."

And you immediately contradict yourself with:

"You don't think. You act on instinct..."

Is he using his brain, or isn't he?

Yeah, all music does have it's place. For me personally, this song's place is far away as possible.

Nobody's yet been able to explain to me why not liking most Marley or most reggae is ignorant, or displaying a lack of knowledge (that's what ignorance is, after all).

If you're going to make a personal statement like that, you should be able to qualify it. If my dislike of this song, or use of the emoticon that Bill provided, makes me ignorant, than tell me why.

I just don't really understand what Dylan thinks he is adding with this. It sounds like an old man with no voice left singing to a basic R&B outfit playing quietly in the background trying not to drown out his oh so weak voice. I can hear the same thing at the local pub if I want. But I don't want. It's just plain pointless.

Politics and Music can be placed together.

There is no song that can compare (imho). I mean across all things: lyrically, musically, theologically, historically and yes spritually. By the way I think this is about the hypocrisy of western religion. If god is all forgiving why cant he forgive lucifer whose sin was his refusal to serve man. Without an essay here, it is all metaphor for mans internal struggle between good and evil. Man blames the devil on historys evil deeds and yet "after all it was you and me" I think this is about acceptance of the choices and therefore consequences we as individuals have and that blaming a mythological fallen angel will never allow you to grow spiritually as a human being. (not tripping, just expressing what flows to me from this masterpiece)
Play On

If by western religion you mean christianity, you've got the basics wrong. In christianity God is not all-forgiving but forgives those that choose to accept the atonement Jesus made. Also lucifer's sin was not choosing not to serve man, it was choosing not to serve God. If you want to call christianity hypocritical that is your business but calling it hypocritical for a reason that does not exists is quite careless and does not promote "spirituality" i think. IMHO you might need to re-asses whether you were in fact tripping or not.

....Is this about the Bush admin?

....I hate Tom Cruise.

If only he were still with us.......

Hey Lets vote Neil for president....oh yeah thats right...we can't...he's Canadian. That's the freakin' point!!!!! I don't want our soldiers over there either but I voice my opinion freely under the flag of my country, the USA, voting who I want or who I don't want unlike Neil who lives in the USA, living comfortably but loyal to the Canadian flag who can't vote because he is not a citizen. I will say this a million times over and over, I am sick and tired of non citizens of the USA preaching to me about crap they can't even fix in their own country. Clean up your house before you clean up mine. Everyone has an opinion but the hypocrasy is annoying. I for one can not support Neil for this reason whether I agree with him or not. Besides a whole album dedicated to one concept...I hope he got it all off his chest.

Reminds me of the Clash.

I do get the impression that Mr V is a good bloke and all that. However, he's a crap singer, they're a sloppy band and their music is rubbish. For me, they are like fingernails on a blackboard . Just needed to get that off my chest. Sorry if I messed with the flow for all you PJ fans.

100% positive comments. There's hope for us yet!

okay... which Leonard Cohen cd should a Cohen newbie check out? i'm not necessarily a fan of this song, but i like others i've heard on here...

....how come we don't get to know who the pianist is?

I concur wholeheartedly. Seven people, as of this date, have given this song a "1"...un-friggin-believable...

Never been accused of not being bright before. Ignorant, maybe. Not quite sure what you may be basing your insult to my intelligence on, but let me assure you that I'm far from being the uneducated hick that you must assume I am.

More on Cat Stevens' (aka Yusef Islam):

(click here)

Friggin liberals. George Bush is my hero.

Thanx. Yes. If it was a real criticism, I wouldn't have given an 8. Although I still maintain that the aim of the song is not as clear as some of you seem to think.

You can't possibly know how much emotion and soul is or isn't in (Sonny's) music.

Get to do a presentation on Mr. Z for one of my senior seminar classes. How he was tied to the "beat generation". Any of you beatniks out there have any nuggets of wisdom you think I should be including?...stories, favorite songs, ect.? Would appreciate the help from someone of that generation! Thanks!

There is little I hate more than to be told I "don't get it". Yes, I get it. But even if I don't, telling me I'm wrong accomplishes nothing--explain the real nature of it, don't just dismiss me with a "you just don't get it".

Yea, I believe you, I chat with a few folks from your country and Forums would suggest that most people, here on RP at least, are against aggression across the board(s) and to say any war is justified, except in defense, is to be party to every death incurred.

Attention everyone who reads this post from outside the US... this guy does NOT speak for the vast majority of us.

Really? Dylan's bike crash was in '66, while Low was made 11 years later ... not what I'd call "recent" ...

Yeah. I want to like him but I just don't.

My ex-gf loved Sarah and she dumped me therefore I hate her and McLachlan.

Irrational, I know.

Makes me want to go back to Beirut.

Clearly very talented playing, but a bit disjointed overall - at least for my tastes.

Before EC became a corporate whore.

I'm a militant Neil Young hater...

I'm going to tip you guys off to something you may not be aware of: Bob Marley sucks.

Not in a "turn that horrible crap off" way (usually, though this one is in the running) but in a "how could anyone actually want to listen to this, rather than just be too hopped up on goofballs to be able to get up the gumption to turn the channel?" way.

to the people who have an issue with Nazi medical experimentation in concentration camps: Reality check folks, without Nazi medical experimentation, particularly hyperbaric chambers, we wouldn't have means to save divers who depressurize too fast, which we've enjoyed for decades. Why demonize it? It's not that big of a deal. Everything in moderation and sometimes in excess can create a healthy perspective on life....cheez you people are close minded.

I still have a crush on her...

Nope he speaketh the truth. I find this track too long and utterly boring.

Guess you either love it or hate it...

Great voice, quality writing... beautiful understated production. For some reason the sound of this guy's records always reminds me of Zep's Physical Graf. Am I a bit mad?

...I'm a white girl, so maybe I like blue-eyed soul better than the real thing...sad, I guess...

The Rolling Stones are a crucial and important band when it comes to the history of rock music and how it progressed, and they did great, great things. But really... the gig is getting old.

Nobody put any words in your mouth besides you. It is impossible to support someone's work if you disagree with what they are doing.

The war was predicated on the following facts, despite what the liberal media would have you believe:

1) Iraq funded Muslim terrorists, including Osama bin Laden.

2) Muslim terrorists killed almost 3,000 innocent Americans.

3) Saddam Hussein declared war on the U.S.A.

4) Iraq had developed chemical and biological weapons and had tons of yellow cake uranium and weapons grade uranium. Don't believe me, let's just ask the thousands of Kurdish people in his own country that he gassed. Whoops, too late.

5) Muslim terrorists in Iraq and funded by Iraq continued to plot terrorist activities against the citizens of the United States.

6) Iraq refused to comply with UN weapons inspection resolutions for a decade.

I could go on, but this isn't really the place. Just get your facts right before you dismiss a real threat to our country as "nothing".

Quote from my boss, two tours in Vietnam,

"War is a hell of a lot of fun."

You think there's a Navy Seal or Army Ranger out there that doesn't enjoy what they are doing....

....Not sure what non-Dylan fans must make of this esoteric cultural cross referencing!

But that's not really for you to say, is it? And God has always used the human hand, such as in His many dealings with Israel in biblical times.

There is a time for peace, and there is a time for war.

This anecdote, among many others, is realted in the Beatles biolgraphy "Shout!"

unfortunately the morons....

"Imagine there are no countries."
No one wants to do THAT anymore. It would be unpatriotic. But look at what kind of world we've gotten as a consequence.

can we all just get over the beatles? i mean, c'mon. i grew out of them when i was 14....

A friend (who I have now lost touch with) who was schizofrenic took this song very personally. He hated Lennon for it. I have to agree, that it can be a very hurtful song for some people. Lennon never really made it clear where this song was aimed. But taking purely on rock music basis, I give it an 8

Clearly a great artist - but he has never quite done it for me. I always have the feeling of a certain "coldness" in his performance. My spine just refuses to tingle in the way that Mitchell, Martyn or Buckley almost invariably provoke.

Beautiful. Makes me sad, though. A wonderful talent and a beautiful man that is sorely missed.

To appreciate Dylan you have to know his roots and understand the time.....

Yeah, but this isn't a heartfelt song: it's talking trash about how tanked and rowdy we're going to get tonight! So I have to side with the Clapton opinion, sorry.

I hear in this song two things that the complainers often complain of about Midnight Oil; the message in the lyrics and the stretched-too-thin vocals. Before I've never thought too much of it as it never bothered me so bad, but here they both kinda stand out. Still not a *bad* song, but not so good either.

Hmmm...I don't believe you're thinking enough.

My point is that I AM feeling the music - and it doesn't feel good to me. Since simple explanations don't work with you, I had to resort to rational explanations. That appears not to have worked either.

When will you ever understand that some people don't like the same music as you? Where did you get this incredible sense of musical superiority?

I don't like this song. That's simple. REALLY simple. Every time people mention they dislike music that you DO like, you act as if something's wrong with them.

This is my last word for this thread. I know you'll grab the last word, because it's your way, but I don't care anymore for tonight. Go ahead and make some more statements about lessons and feeling and learning and pathology and whatever.

I don't think you "get" that there's nothing to "get" when you simply don't like something.

My body, mind, and senses work a certain way, and that's different from you. To my ears, this out-of-tune bass is unpleasant. It's not the same quirky intentional-sounding out-of-tune in Paul Simon's "I Know what I Know."

Even if I can't articulate exactly why, my dislike of a musical element in no way means that I don't "get" something.

I'm not so fond of that out-of-tune bass...

Tsk tsk tsk, Sir Nugster, I know you're smarter than that.

You know that just because somebody makes a stupid, off-hand comment about somebody doesn't mean he/she is a "rightwing fundamentalist."

Belafonte is a total asshole and this song is as stupid as he is.

This is one of the most profoundly moving songs ever.

Wow, this guy is like physicsgenius and nuggler combined! All the inflamitory remarks about the music melded oh-so-roughly with the crazy condescension!

I still like this song, quite a bit. Her voice is so smooth...

..... Man, those were the days!

come on clap along, this is pretty jaunty too
Radio Paradise Air Play... ...

Why? Why play this....

No and no. Theory #2?

ugh! radio bush strikes again.

I wonder if Eddie Vedder is ever happy, you guys ever wonder the same thing??? Bono and Michael Stipe have their causes, but they lighten up once in a while

Beethoven leading into Smells like Teen Spirit, lol. Love it!!!

Gack, overplayed in the 70's.

The connection is that Jimi Hendrix who I like is just as loud and hard rock as Led Zeppelin and I hate their sound and that is why I made the exact same comments about them I have nothing else to say about them! I hate *all* Led Zeppelin songs I have heard!

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :verymad: :puke: I hate all Led Zeppelin songs but I like Jimi Hendrix and he's just as loud hard rock!

Fab4fan,

I can certainly appreciate your loyalty to such a ho-hum group as the Beatles, as many people like things that I don't care for. I guess that not liking mediocre music, which was pretty much marketed to the masses back then as Brittney Spears is today, makes someone ignorant in your views. I can live with your name calling, as it is typical of someone who has no valid point left to make. Quoting famous peoples viewpoints doesn't validate your claims, just demonstrates your inability to think for yourself.

When TP is bad he's awful imho - this song is a case in point. I'm really mystified as to why people like it. Boring and droning. Oh well, as my brother says, that's why they make chocolate AND vanilla.

i cannot rate any beatles 'godlike' just because they (john lennon?) claimed to be more important than (someones) 'god'.

Nice to hear this from a great American

what a dumb french whore

So those who disagree with your position aren't "thinking" people?

Nuggler, I'll assume for the moment that you've misinterpreted my comments. I was not making a judgement on the lyrics of the song, nor on Baby_M's comment. I was speaking of NICKNAME's baseless attack on Baby_M's comment that he didn't like Midnight Oil's politics. It is rather ironic to be attacked by someone spouting open-mindedness for simply expressing your own mind.

I can't and won't speak for Baby_M, but with comments like the one quoted above, I get the impression that you are not open minded. Why must one attack another for expressing a valid opinion?

I hate this song.

What's with the singing, it sounds as if he has an extreme case of sinusitis.... ewww.... can't get that thought of Dylan's snot poker out of my mind now.... ewww ewww ewwwwww

One of the greatest bands in the history of music...

rythme envoutant et voix mythique !!

génial !

Neil Young's new song?

If you got the urge for this type of music, listen to Strunz and Farrah. In peticular, the album "Heat of the Sun" is good from first to last. They play a couple of their songs here on RP.

I think this is damn good blues.....

because it's Wilco AND Billy Bragg!

Whoa...weird.

But I do know about the Jazz action in Scandiland...

My wife spent 7 weeks studying furniture design in Copenhagen, Denmark two summers ago, and they had a HUGE jazz fest.

She actually got me a CD by some Danish Jazz Quartet...Enberg/Jeffson, I believe? VERY good stuff.

I choose not to listen to Miles Davis because he was a wife beater

I have to be trained to listening this crap...!!!!

He is very very very very very very very boring!!!!!!!SUCKS!!

Ok, James fans, who's Lester Piggott? (no cheating!)

its amazing how entrenched and intolerant some old boomers are when you critique what they hold so dear,
ie. eric clapton, paranoid conspiracy theories, tie dye, pot bellies, etc...

Far too overplayed by radio paradise. You play this every bloody day, don't you?

Not even, this is boring and has no depth-unlike Annie!

New Orleans is my #1 favorite city in the world, and I've just been so tore up over what has happened there. For the life of me, I can NOT understand how the federal government has just allowed so many people to suffer and suffer down there!?!? This is our country, and our people and our city! We can do better, and if we dont, then to hell with us.

He did this with only 3 or 4 fingers...?

Only when you can first.

But at least now you seem to say that your windbag is empty.

As long as you keep splitting hairs, as long as you keep getting philosophical and sentient when you say that you're not trained in it, and when you accuse others of being "sentient", as long as you irrationally attack other folks for daring to say the do not like the same music as you, I WILL HOUND YOU.

Immature? Maybe. Annoying? Mostly to you. Harrassment? You started it, so I think not.

If ANYBODY were to read back over our exchanges, I think they would conclude that you're hopped up on something, if only your own hubris.

Good day, and good riddance (unless of course, as is your wont, you go quite exuberantly for the last word).

Captain, you made it the forum when you dug into me.

So once again, you state without explanation...

How is it that I rely MOSTLY on my senses? And how are you relying LESS on senses? Your complete catalogue of derision is built on what you are PERCEIVING. Your description of THEATER was totally perception and subjectivity.

You have to explain what's different about the way you're approaching this stuff, and why it is good, and why I'm somehow misguided and bad. You still haven't done that. You've simply (with one exception) insulted, condescended, and implied.

Explain away...I'm still waiting.

A compliment! You said that I'm very, very "finely sensitive in perception or feeling" in how I process information! Thanks!

Or maybe you meant I was very, very "aware" in how I process information?

Or perhaps you meant I was very, very "responsive to or conscious of sense impressions" in how I process information? Well, none of those are negative, so je suppose you've complimented me! Thanks!

When Clapton was with "Cream", back in 1968-69, people in London began posting graffiti that read "Clapton is God."

I'm not trying to take anything away from Eric Clapton, heaven knows, his talent is god-like.

BUT,

to me, SRV was absolutely incredible!

Seeing videos of this guy perform, or re-runs of his performance on "Austin City Limits," makes me wonder why "the good die young."

....YADA YADA YADA....

And yes, those are all in quotes on purpose, to illustrate the absurdity of your accusations. I think you've officially beat out Physicsgenius for Troll of the Century...At least he doesn't generally defend his trolling.

Although I can't give it a 1, because of how well it leads into Manic Street Preachers' "To Repel Ghosts."

Ah yes, I forgot - your wisdom is like pearls, and I'm a swine.

I bet the fact that the girl looks 12 had something to do with that. And she's holding a phallic looking hood ornament. Quite a bold piece of art for the day.

The first time I've heard Third World on RP! Wow! We need everything this excellent band has produced somewhere on the RP playlist!

See, nugget, everything you've just described is no less subjective than :puke:

Okay, so unless English isn't your first language, and you simply don't grasp many common idiomatic expressions (which if that's the case, fine, no harm done intentionally), please explain, and I mean REALLY explain, the difference between calling one song "a lame attempt" or "lacking life" and using the :puke: emoticon that BILL HIMSELF PROVIDED FOR OUR USE ON THESE BOARDS.

And personal prejudices? Yes, that's what these are...personal prejudices towards sounds we don't like. That's what you just regurgitated when you said this song had no life in it. What are your reason for not like this? And why are they more valid than somebody saying that they can't stand reggae or any other music that you enjoy? Real explanations, man, I'm willing to entertain those. Come on, out with 'em. And none of this, "not until you explain yourself first" stuff. I'm calling you out here.

Oh, hey, cool! Once again, you get to make a negative comment about a song despite your attacks on other people who do the same! Awesome!

why is he pointing at me? listen pal, speak for yourself. thank you. F.

me thinks he was a victim of instant karma...not shining on anymores. maybe because he sang about having no religion. now he's burning in the firey depths of hell!

OMG Bill, PLEASE! Enough with the reggae!!!

Did this album have a bunch of pop-up characters in the middle when you opened it? I can't remember

Not true...to say "Picasso sucks" can potentially mean simply that the speaker dislikes Picasso's work. I know about the skill of guitar playing, tonality, composition, music history etc. to a reasonable degree, but I still think that Yngwie Malamstien sucks. That's not ignorance, it's taste.

the instrumental santana is definately some of the best shagging music around, sets the mood and the rhythym so well

ya baby, ya

love and peace or else? or else what? sounds like a violent threat. self righteous fools.

Couldn't agree more. Justify Cobain all you want -- his delusions ("I never wanted to be famous"), his selfishness ("Suicide solves my problems and no one else's"), his denial of the reality before him ("I'd rather end my existence than change my career"). However, the final message of his life is this: As long as life is hard, it's okay to give up.

And yes, anyone who abandons his daughter to be raised by a single Courtney Love is a bastard. But I love every Nirvana song I've ever heard, so apparently, Geffen Records doesn't care what I think. As it should be.

Yay yay yay! This song is jus twhat I needed. In fact, I need lots and lots more Pixies.

Hmmm this sounds so like J.J. Cale. Did Dylan discover the cool rythmns and sounds of J.J. Cale and virtually emulate them?

If only this guy could sing.

it is spelled sulfurous, or sulphurous, not sulpherous.
For your birthday,(lets see how old would a burned out boomer like you be?), we can buy you spell check. However, we can not buy you intelligence, tact, wit or good taste.
Have a nice day.

Boy do I miss my homeland. More so when I hear this sort of music. Very pensive and melancholy.

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Sulph'U'rous. Little vampire doesn't know his english either...little vampire is *stupid*...spelled S - T - U - P - I - D
Fly away, little vampire...

ahhhh, when Clapton didn't suck

YES! this guy is channeling John...good call.

He may possibly have meant that the comment itself was from the 80's

in an age of Peak Oil and massive, rampant Denial, a song that becomes more necessary than when it was first released.

Sure, piss and moan about MO's "politics." And then wonder what yer gonna do when you wake up to four dolllar a gallon gas, permanently shifted global weather (and no more "cheap meat" in your grocery stores!)

I really like this song, and although I still prefer Tori to Kate, I have an enormous amount of respect for Kate in what she did for women in music and how she influenced the likes of Tori and Sarah Mclachlan.

idiocy crosses the political spectrum, as the nuggler so effectively proves.

I'm all for foreign languages and all, but come on. German is so abrasive. Now if it were a German song with german lyrics I wouldn't even be typing this. But it's friggin' Bowie, man. Play the vastly superior english speaking version.

The jaw harp is my favorite instrument.

You need to see Donnie Darko, then you can appreciate this song.

You're playing my song!

if it wasn't for a band like this, bands like REM,Coldplay,Radiohead and countless others would not have a sound to go by

Moore was a fan of Peter Green(Fleetwood Mac)when green had a breakdown he quit playing and gave his prized 59 Les Paul to Gary Moore. When Moore found out that Green was living on the street he made a blues album as a tribute to him and helped get him back on his feet. If you like early Fleetwod Mac Jumping at shadows is a great tune.

...Your derision and warping of my intentions....

....Yes, my comments were negative, but they were not aimed at belittling. I'm glad you think you're psychic....

Are you just a troll? What's your deal, man?

So great to know that yet another person assumes that people who have different tastes in music are arrogant and inexperienced. You're the reason why people are afraid to post why they rate songs low.

Check your assumptions, fella, because your statement is the type of sentiment I'd expect from an ignorant unstable little kid.

Blech! Boring, repetitive...yuck.

This is masterful!

This sounds very distorted. Is it supposed to sound like this?

Doves meets Stereolab ?

Songs like this are the exact reason that my 500-CD collection on that shelf over there does not have 1 single Beatles album in it.

While that's a nice image, I'm positive Jimi is there too.

this guy is awesome...........

For me, one of the best bands since The Beatles.

This is a truly fantastic song! Midnight Oil should never be forgotten.

Awful. Lame. Weak. Pathetic. Who needs this?? What's the purpose? Might as well play guitar to 12 bar blues with the lyrics from a commercial jingle.

Nice try, but you can't slip Peter Gabriel past me that easily. 3

There's a reason Jimi Hendrix was all about Albert Collins...

Playing stuff like this and the Pretenders, and Creedence to me, is just FILLER...and possibly only giving someone's brain a 30 second break in intelligent listening. Spare me this overplayed stuff please, I can hear this on any classic rock clear channel brainwash 'zombie" station! :puke:

Perfect lead in from Radiohead....now your talking, something to inspire!

First true World Music single! Youssou N'Dour on drums, Ladysmith Black Mambazo, Bakiti Kumalo on bass, Picket, Foster and Garnder as the brass section - a part of the end of Apartheid and start of a new chapter in pop music.

Sucko Barfo

Another personal attack. #-o How juvenile. <-X

Keep the comments about the music and the artists. Try and play like the big boys and girls.

And did I mention how much this song sucks?

Pro: It kinda has a melody
Con: It sounds like Kenny G circa 1953

Might have been able to rate it higher if it hadn't had to follow Rockin' Long John Baldry!

I'm starting to dread hearing Dar Williams "Play the Greed" (a song I like) because it seems like it's usually followed by this. :puke:

(I know, I know... I should get over it since I'm the only person on earth who doesn't like Van Morrison...)

I'm not sure who did it first, but I think Roy Orbison's is better because of his better vocals. However, I love Ray's long instrumental

I love the song....but this has always confused me....

What's with the haphazard, impromptu, random, obviously, intentionally, badly played guitar solo(s)?

I agree (but they are still good enough) Another band is La Bottine Souriante. One song of them is in the RP répertoire, but it has not been played yet.... (after a year or so) yet way better than Beausoleil ... Oh well

Eric Clapton should be ashamed of himself to do this song with Sheryl Crow. Utter DRECK.

My wife and I went to JazzFest a few years back and it rained the whole weekend! I mean the track at the JazzFest grounds was one big mudpit and people were just sliding all over the place - some on purpose, some not :) Anyway, the Neville Brothers were the last act on Sunday evening and during their show the rain finally stopped. We were all really digging the tunes and Aaron's soulful voice and having a grand time. As he began to sing the last song, Amazing Grace, the sun appeared below the clouds and bathed us all in a golden glow. Talk about amazing grace - it still sends shivers up my spine just thinking about it.

Makes me think of Van Morrison.

One of our greatest songwriters IMO.

He just smiled and gave me a Vitamite sandwhich :puke: (not puke song, puke vitamite!)

Look at how many songs he's given a rating of 1-5 too as compared to the number of songs he's given a 6-10. Now look at the kind of songs he's given a 1-5 rating too. Obviously ignorant.

AGREED WHOLEHEARTEDLY! :!:

Can't sing (either musically or intelligibly). Noodles around on an out-of-tune, terribly-sound-quality guitar. Can't even spell his own name right. A 2, at best.

Every time I hear/think of Miles Davis these days, I think of the comment that I read somewhere that Jimi Hendrix was just about to get together with Miles Davis before he died.

Can't help but to wonder what amazing journeys they would have taken together.... :(

I can't believe they colorized the album cover.

That's just so wrong. So very, very wrong.

While I still like most any New Order, I would still like to hear some of their older stuff played more often.


Come to think of it, I'd like to hear some Joy Division too.

philistines! patti smith is and always has been a talented gutsy acerbic knifewielding artistartistartist. and those aren't hairy armpits. that hair is soft and sweet, you prepubescent boys slathered with madison avenue skin lotions. you wanna see hairy armpits? right here, puppies!!! hahahahaha!!!!!!

It seems to me that a lot of people like to jump on the bandwagon of calling successful artists of days past "washed up"

Was it Stevie Winwood or Traffic?...Still, this is not a bad cover this song. Did I actually say that? What was I thinking?

One of my favorites by him. Great instrumentation along with deeply internal lyrics!

U2 rides out the years of it's fame - I hope they go away soon.

I've never heard any song of his that didn't make me want to change the station or plug my ears. Probably the grating voice and tone-deaf wailing. The harmonica is probably the most tolerable thing about his music.

I don't think I'll ever understand the fascination with these guys.

I've always thought Dylan was a talentless hack and this has done nothing to change my opinion.

Flame away.

Is your "drift" that hating a Yes song is like hating poison ivy? If it's not, then you are the one who has "drifted." If it is... If it is...

Here is your argument with the phrase "that Yes song" replacing the pronoun it. Let's see if your argument is as silly as I make it out to be, shall we?

"We hate (that Yes song) because we had a bad experience with it or simply because everyone else hates it. We hate (that Yes song) without knowing anything about it. We hate (that Yes song) without taking a closer look & seeing the microcosm of life that symbiotically co-exists along with (that Yes song) or how it uniquely contributes to its microenvironment. We hate (that Yes song) because we have chosen not to educate ourselves on its unique roll in the natural order of things. We hate (that Yes song), essentially, because we are ignorant. Yes. We *hate* because we are *ignorant*."

If you are the self-aware student of life and nature as you proclaim, then learn this: You overreacted, and your views on the power of words are extreme if not fringe. Words have no power, only the ideas they convey. I'd no sooner praise a car battery rusting in the grass than I'd praise words without context.

And most important of all, I hate this song.

You've taken an innocent, unguarded, VERY obviously exaggerated statement and turned it into an indicative example of how a segment of the population, proceeding with disregard for the feelings and needs of their fellows, are responsible for exaccerbating a pervasive subculture of animosity which threatens to undo society's attempts at good, such as the artistic expression "It Can Happen" by the band Yes.

I sincerely hope you're being disingenuous, because no one can be that dumb. But just in case these ramblings of yours represent what can only loosely be called your system of beliefs, allow me to point out one more time that Jagdriver is simply expressing his dislike (cf. the definition you posted) for a song, whereas you point out the mere existence of dislike as tantamount to suffering from a disease.

You big bully.

Did you catch that line? "Most common vernacular use." Please don't tell me you really believe that most people who use the word "hate" ALWAYS use it in terms of the first definition. When my wife says she hates peas, do you really think she's afraid of them? Or perhaps you think my wife is afraid of injury? Death by peas? Or maybe, she simply means they are her least favorite vegetable, or one of her least favorite vegetables. I'm pretty sure that's what the original commentor mean when posting slingin' hatred towards this song...

So okay, I'm sittin' back waiting for you to tell us all that this was an elaborate joke, and silly us for taking you seriously.

You didn't really call the guy pathological, did you? Seriously? That's your attempt at objectivity?

You don't really think "It Can Happen" is the pinnacle of human expression, right? Because if you don't, your awkward sentence structure implies it and makes your other salient points suspect.

Lastly, you don't really think he HATES the song, do you? I mean, it's just a little ditty. I can barely muster distaste.

You big bully.

My pleasure. I freely confess that I'm partial toward not committing suicide and leaving your wife and infant daughter behind. If that also makes me judgemental, intolerant and shallow, then I don't really want to be a part of your morbid "non-judgemental, tolerant and deep" world.

No, sorry. Your drift still doesn't make sense. Considering the most common vernacular use of "hate" is "extreme dislike or antipathy," I think it is still quite easy for somebody to be completely turned off to the fruits of an artist's expression.

Even when you understand what goes into the creation of an artistic expression, you can still have utter dislike for the result; you can hate it. So unless you're using a different meaning for hate than most other people, the only thing using the word, "hate" says about the user is that he/she has "extreme dislike or antipathy" for the song/painting/etc.

That's a lot of presumption on your part, though. You can no more determine the "inner thought process" of somebody based on verbal communication than you can determine the emotion of a guitar player by the visible performance.

Should we all be required to provide a thorough, outlined explanation of why we don't like a song before we say we "hate" it? If that's the case, we should also be required to do the same when we say we "love" a song.

Yeah, I prefer to hear sound reasons for why somebody doesn't like something, but I don't think that should be required of anybody here before posting an opinion - positive, or negative. Love, or hate.

Hold on...why does the use of "hate" say more about the user than the song? What does it say about the user of the word? That he/she is willing to express the most extreme form of dislike for something? Or perhaps it's hyperbole? That would make it no worse than saying "I've heard this a million times."

Simplistic as it is, I think for someone to say that he/she HATES a song says something about the song: it doesn't fit with the hater's tastes.

:verymad: :headshake: :puke:

Oh, did I mention how much I HATE this group?

Excellent period piece.

You young whippersnappers need to understand that this came from a time when rock music was trying to "expand". It was at this time that Procol Harum was doing sessions with the London Philharmonic and Keith Emerson was recording preludes by Ginastera, and all the hip people were into this idea that the popsy sugar-coated lasciviousness of rock could somehow be merged with high art.

Those ideas got shoved aside by disco, and were finally annihilated by punk, which counted as the dialectical opposite of stuff like Those Were The Days. Now, after a thousand permutations, we're back to rock music that sounds basically like the Kinks and the MC5 from the mid-sixties (witness Jet and the White Stripes), neither of which would really count as "expansive". You might not enjoy it as music, but at least try to listen with an awareness of where we were and how we got here.

...yada yada yada...

For now I give this a 6.

Who was the bassist on that record? I can see him playing a Fender Percision bass on the inner cover. It has that very round tone!!

Interesting. I somewhat agree, why do you think this is the case? That the music industry is now trying to target specific markets and hense tastes? Or is it that people now are more likely to identify their musical tastes to a specific genre and more likely to discount all other genres?

Nice how he slips REPUBLICANS in there... Oh, and BTW those pesky PARADIGMS are pronounced' traditional values.' I shudder to think where we'd be without THOSE.

Keith Moon ... most underrated drummer of all time ... listen to '5.15' from this album for an example ....

Why arent these guys more popular Stateside?

This guy needs to be flushed along with all the master tapes he ever made. He. Sucks.

Dude, he's allowed to say it sucks. It doen't have to be eloquent. You understood him, didn't you? You got the picture that he doesn't like the song.quote>


"Dude", what's your relationship with "physicsGeniuS" ? Just asking....

Wait...isn't Bork the name for a bathtub fart?

But surely you meant Bjork...

Hey! He sounds like . . . . oh, never mind.

I am tired of this mindless swallowing of news-media and government propaganda that has infused the pseudo-political pop-culture of this country- and people are being hurt by it, and it sucks. If you want to be a bigot, fine, just don't blame it on someone else's perceived bigotry and pass it off as some kind of snide self-righteous truth.

People! Why is it that some users here have to insult other listeners just because they don't agree on musical tastes? Why can't we allow the opinions to be as ecclectic as the music? Geez...

Enough of this good ol' boy americana rubbish!

Eclectic? I don't think so!

Hey-ho back to Xfm...

Not necesserily a gaping hole...this is (and here comes the line that will inevitably invite derision from the masses) just another blues guy.

Different voice, different song, but this is nothing new whatsoever.

I like some blues, but any genre built on a scale pattern is bound to run out of steam sooner or later.

Hmmm, doesn't make me horny, guys ;)

Mmmm... Santana.... like a warm glass of piss on a cold day in hell.

Whether you love it or hate it, there's no getting around the fact that U2 is one of the most overplayed bands in history. Take them off the public airwaves for at least 20 years and they might sound fresh again.

i spot a supertrampy chord progression there

12:59 pm - Nirvana - The Man Who Sold The World
12:54 pm - Pink Floyd - Hey You

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12:48 pm - Elton John - Madman Across The Water
12:44 pm - Radiohead - Exit Music (For A Film)
12:40 pm - Rubyhorse - Warning Bells
12:37 pm - Air - Cherry Blossom Girl
12:33 pm - Over the Rhine - Spark

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12:28 pm - Portishead - A Tribute To Monk & Canatella
12:25 pm - Buena Vista Social Club - El Carretero
12:21 pm - Jacques Loussier Trio - Gavotte In B Minor
12:16 pm - Genesis - The Carpet Crawlers
12:10 pm - AfroCelts - Green
12:07 pm - The Cure - Love Song

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12:03 pm - Joseph Arthur - A Smile That Explodes
12:00 pm - David Bowie - Lady Grinning Soul

This song is been overplayed recently, I think.

It's easy to fall into the trap of thinking the Stones are the most overrated band in the history of music when all you normally hear are the staples that have played on commercial radio for the past 40 years. Gems like these prove there was more to them.

Someone told me that there is a rumor floating around out there that the Kinks didn't really know how to play their guitars and that they had session artists come in to do "You Really Got Me" and one other song that had good guitar solos in it.

Anyone else hear that one? Is it true?

Wilco does it right, wow!

I feel that way about Beatles songs but not other British bands. I listened to the Beatles slavishly, but the Who and Stones and Police and Genesis were always on the periphery. They still seem new to me.

Is this is the best song out of Oz ever?

Yes, it is.

Dude, Mich Gerber is SWISS. Calm down.

You wanna rant politics, hit the political forums. I'm sure plenty of people will debate you there if you so desire.

Don't know much about biology nor Mark Almond, but I dig the 70's Jazz Fusion sound. Thanks RP.

Wow. Just.....wow. It's not enough that we have to endure crappy "World Beat" music. It's not even enough we have to endure it from the most overexposed musician in the genre, Bob Marley. We also have to have squeaky-voiced singers in the background.

Nobody can honestly tell me they like this crap apart from their memories of hours spent high and kicking the hacky around.

I guess it beats Cream's version. Yes it does.

I have to say I heartily agree. Not a jazz fan, never have been. I've tried, it just doesn't work for me.

I strongly second the confinement of genres like jazz, & classical into their own happy little corners. That way everyone gets what they want. What say ye, Bill?

Can't we all just enjoy the song? I get so tired of all of you whining about the war. I just got back from the Caribbean, and it was refreshing down there. No uptight holier than thou liberals down there forcing protests down your throat. Didn't you ever think that maybe some of us don't want to listen to your whining? On the islands, they all just want to get along. We should take a lesson from them. Chill out!!!

P.S. For those of you that would suggest that I go there (or somewhere else!) permanently, I tried. Heaven for me would be to own a bar on a small Caribbean island. Even though I tried to stay, they put me back on the plane anyway....

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Wave that freak flag, Sister ! Like George Orwell said..."If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they don't want to hear".
Esp. in this day & age