No.

Yes - Pogues - Fairytale Of New York 

It is listed as godlike in your personal list.

. . . you did ask. . .  

ooo, yeah, tell 'em, tigger. and along your whiny little trek to some other music source, don't forget to drool over peter "meandering dreck in a more contemporary vein" gabriel.

perhaps someday my standards will be as high as yours. *sigh*

(a boy can dream, can't he?) 

Can we have a 0 rating for tracks like this? 1 seems awfully generous.

Reports of Chris Martin's ridiculously huge ego make it harder to appreciate the good music that Cold Play produce.  I just have to take a deep breath...

Neil and Bob Dylan are arguably the top male lyricists of our time - Period. 

but do we need them 3 times a day?

   Whew-weeee. You make a compelling argument Tiggers. I think I'll just quite while I'm down. Nice one. Very nice.  You "used" your words there. I like that. You're a "thinker", that's for sure.  

 ...Dog           and          Pony        Show.    THuuuu Beatles!  Name even sounds kinda Dog and Pony show-ish. Sorta like the Turltles, or the BoxTops,  oooo -  The Monkeys..   I'm gonna take a wiLD guess here and say Davy Jones and Paul were probably your favorites in those two bands. You dig that boyish bad boy thing dontchuh?       

The "Presence" album came out in 1976. By then, the "hippie era" was pretty much over.

Some of yas in the baggie-pants crowd ought to learn that good music transcends dates, and stereotyping doesn't do anyone any good.

Hey, don't let the screen door hitcha...

 tiggers wrote:  Tiggers, you wanna take a second to buy a vowel or a clue or phone a friend? cause you're lost man.

The Beatles were a bells and whistles dog and pony show, compared to Dylan. Even John got sick of it after awhile. That right there shoulda been your first clue. Their sounds were beautiful and mind expanding, but in that psychedelic escape from reality kind of way. AnD they needed a multi-million dollar studio to make it happen. Dylan, with both feet firmly on the ground, can put you in your head and out of your body with a guitar and lyrics. John got there later with a piano on Imagine.

Dylan was the first Singer/song writer in his time (for relevance google - "tin pan alley"). He transformed folk music in to lyrical, deeply poetic expression. He merged the deepest parts of folk and roots music with rock and roll to make rock music genuine. He generated and lived a value system that defined rock and roll as it exists today, the same one your Love Me Do mop heads envied and copied till they self imploded. Dylan was the first.  And he's is still livin it. WTF is Ringo doin'? And "Sir" Paul? gimme a friggin break.  I say this not to be derisive or condescending to these people but to provide a local road map back to a sound form of reality. Or you can stay lost, I don't care. It's obvious though  ..hey, this is kinda fun

Ignorance is also a worldwide phenomenon. John Prine is not a 'country' artist.

Unfortunately true.  You'd think RP people coming to Dylan late at least would appreciate that (1) like many other artists on RP, he's often not immediately accessible but usually worth the effort, and (2) more important, without Dylan there's no RP at all.  He's the one who took music from "I Want to Hold Your Hand" and "Surfin' USA" (and that was the good stuff compared to the garbage of others) and opened the door to the eclectic and intelligent (and horizon-expanding) music that brings us here.  The man deserves respect and thanks even from those who never take to the voice, or to one of the various stages he's been through (and usually led for others to follow). Sorry — editorial over....

I don't hate him. . . I just think mostly everything I have heard him do is shit

With all due respect to those who don't like Dylan—it's all good, but I don't quite get it.  It somehow reminds me of years ago, standing outside the car before the majestic beauty of the Tetons, soaking up their glory, while my buddy wouldn't even get out to take a look.  He was too pre-occuppied with paging through a new copy of Playboy.  The raw beauty of that mountain range, and the raw emotion and honesty of Dylan, both impacted me deeply, and I have just never fully understood the difference in our perceptions of things like that.  Maybe someone can enlighten me.  Maybe it's partly having to have been there—but the Tetons are still the Tetons, and Dylan is still Dylan (especially the older stuff).

Turn this crap off!

In 2007, Rolling Stone voted it one of the 50 best songs over 7 minutes long.

No, that's not it. Lots of people don't like Dylan, but they don't feel the need to make frequent inflammatory non-constructive comments, clearly intended only to illicit angry responses. I realize the word "troll" is a bit nebulous, but when it reaches the point that you're commenting on your own comments (previously I gave it a 2 and no one responded so now I'm giving it a 1 . . . please somebody notice me) then I think it's safe to use it, if only in reference to your Dylan comments, not in general. But hey, I took the bait, so I guess your post "worked". Now that I think about it, given some of my comments on Tori Amos, I guess I could be called a troll too! On a positive note, I see from your profile that you don't have a disproportionate amount of 1 ratings and that we have lots of common ground in the "highest rated" category, so I suggest we agree to disagree on old Bob, and concentrate on the positive; Gabriel, Bowie, Kate Bush, U2, Pink Floyd, Beatles etc.

Or maybe just a person with good taste, desperate to hear better music.

Why does insulting a Bob Dylan song automatically make someone a troll?

Ah, another sad little troll, desperate for attention.

i know he's a genius, blah blah blah....his voice grates.

Dave why don't you ask Vince back mate. I love Basildon Essex

Although every time I hear something along those lines I'm subtley reminded that rock and roll, along with jazz and blues - and quite possibly the entire concept of "pop music" - are American creations.

I'm in the middle of a teleconference with some less than tolerant people. They heard Dylan in the background and started whining about the "noise". I hit the mute button on the phone and CRANKED Dylan!

Thanks Bill, et al.

Amazing.

Someone can tell me the tuning he uses in this track?

I prefer Ryan Adams original version.

I gave it a 9, but mostly out of a sense of duty. I am not a big fan of Dylan, but I understand the impact that he has had on music for the Babyboom generation.

100% agree.  utterly sick of the talking heads

I thought it was under eclectic?

Nah, it's easy...watch:

Not only does this song blow oats, but Morrissey's gawdawful singing completely overshadows any glimmer of talent any of the other members of the Smiths may have had.

I keed, I keed. Actually it's much worse than I described. I'm usually very open-minded about music, but this song flat-out sucks, IMHO.

Boring and commercial, sold out.

Oooh, double shot!

    Traffic - Freedom Rider
    Traffic - Glad
 

Derek Trucks is one of the most innovative guitarists playing today. Anyone who has rudimentary knowledge of blues, rock, world music immediately knows we are listening to a great talent who connects us to a unique sound. To call his music "garbage"...well that just displays an amazing amount of musical ignorance. You are in the minority...for a very good reason.

 I rated it a 2 as it isn't as bad as most of his other output.

I'm so glad you're in the minority. 

Hi Bill,
Love this tune but can you please play some of the songs from her debut, The Kick Inside.  It is one of the best LPs I've EVER heard start to finish.  KB's talent is simply awesome!    Thank you...

For years I thought this was Fleetwood Mac.

Wow, this is a really really bad song.  Really.  Bad.

How can you not want to get up and dance!

My dad's favorite guitarist...saw him right before he hung himself.

Godalmighty, will the blues never END?

Used to be such a good radio station, now it is like a blues history lesson ever freaking hour.

Is there something like RP that doesn't play all this blues crap?

Christ this is horrible!

 

Buh-bye, now.
Santana's my cue to click over to radioio acoustic.
Sorry.

It really amazes me that people could equate a laid back rhythm to elevator music.  Laid back yes... simple or bland, no f'in way.

Actually, even tho it might seem like it to a tigger with a short attention span (tigger had a short attention span, right?) they (Bill G. & co.) still don't "play crap like this every 3rd song"

Almost makes up for walk of life and twisting by the pool. Almost.

Enigma rises from the dead.
Quick someone beat them back down!

I don't think we'll need to pass the hat for Ryan any time soon.  He's a major concert draw and Tyler Hilton had a huge hit on the country charts with When The Stars Go Blue.

I have never understood the antipathy of the RP audience to Ryan's version of this song.  Everybody I share it with loves it.

10 all the way.

Are all the short attention span jackasses still complaining about songs being too long? I thought they would have gotten over it by now.
Then I realized they just can't remember the last time they did it.

Such self-indulgent dreck.

 

I gotta tell you: I remember those glory pre-Thatcher days. The UK was taking its final trips around the bowl and down to the sewer. The economy was crumbling and so was the culture. Thatcher may have had a personal dislike for Scargill but the battle with the union was not because of that. She expressed an outrage that a small special interest group felt it could dictate terms to a democratically elected government using the threat of destroying the economy as leverage. It was a threat that previous governments had all too often tolerated with the British people being the losers. Nationalization of industry was rampant and the country couldn't seem to do anything right. You do remember British Leyland don't you?

Great Britain is much better off now than it was before Thatcher. She started a revolution of moderation that has largely been continued by her successors. This has allowed the country to rebuild itself and redefine its culture and means of production. The country is not perfect, but nothing ever is then, is it.

That the UK cannot efficiently mine sufficient coal for its own usage is a problem unrelated to breaking the union and certainly not a reason for discounting the country's great accomplishments since Thatcher's election and to the present. If anything, the British should be proud of what they have achieved in the last three decades or so. Although only an empirical determination, but the great majority of the Englanders I know indeed are proud.

this reminds me of something else.
 I just cant seem to place what the other song is.

Wish I had headphones on

never understood the hatred of thatcher. and i was there.
people picketing to be allowed to work in a coal mine that was not making money?
so hammered down by low expectations from the socialism and class system hybrid.

socialist ineffeciencies that destroyed eastern europe and had long term damage on the UK.
she had the courage to say, britain is not a basket case. she was only half right.

I can name that song in two notes!

"All the roads we walk along are winding
And all the lights that lead the way are blinding."

A good song is a good song.

I gave this a 9 and Ryan Adams' version a 10. 

I've been watching it and enjoying it.  I wonder how long they can keep the gimmick interesting though.  It's pretty much a cop show with occasional weirdness that's kinda the same every time.  The weirdness, that is.

Having been continually exposed to Mama-Mia on DVD since Christmas, I'm afriad I've completely fallen out with my feminine side. Not that I dislike Abba, it's just their songs all seem to have melodies which burn themselves into my grey matter and repeat over and over and over and over. And now they're on RP - AAAAAHHHHHH!

So, what are you trying to say here?
That EVERYONE has decided that Bono really does suck, and is an egotistical a-hole who's head is too big for his hat, and has a voice that can strip paint?
I'd go along with that.

the lyrics would stand up just on paper

Checked your ratings. I know understand your diatribes. LOL

This song has become a sort of RP anthem. And I'm really tired of hearing it so often.

If you listen to this song.  He is "singing" and very well I might add.

IMHO one of the most overrated bands ever.

This song would be too long at two minutes and twenty seven seconds. It feels like twenty seven minutes and two seconds. I had to turn the radio off. yuck
also raised on NY. The Mars Bar forever!
 

Check your pulse if you think this is a 1. Sonny burns the house down here. 8 for sure.

I just can't seem to get into rock with flutes, and this is no exception.

Sorry about that Ian Anderson........

Nooooooooooooooo. Go back to Back Street Boys and the like. You get the Thumbs down. Go listen to the idiot Sprinsteen & wallow in your misery.

Just noise.

Uh, get over what? Dylan's been around for over 40 years, his songs are still played and covered over and over, and he's not going away, either here on RP or anywhere else, for probably at least another 40 years. That going to be true no matter how much you try to shout out the truth as you see it to the unwashed masses. So it rather looks like I'm not the one who needs to get over it, doesn't it? Enjoy!

This sucks...this what you do when you have Jumping Jack Flash stuck in your head and your guitar buddys are at the house sucking down beers, then you all start jamming, making it up as you go. The end result, something that sound like Mahgeetah. I have heard this a few times on RP and I have not grown to like it much.

Yes, but no one is laughing. Except Tiggers, that thilly goose. TTFN.

Wow, I certainly glad that we have a True Seer like you to tell us we're all being "conned"! Thank god someone so wise, who's the only one to know the truth, has deigned to come to Radio Paradise and show us what blind fools we've all been.

This is the No. 1 song of all time based on Rolling Stone's rating.

According to you and the rest of your 2.2% of partners in cluelessness.

Toooo many Gabriel's songs... And they are so boring, so progressive, so passe!

Somebody please explain. By the looks mostly everybody rated this high. There were 33 people who had the audacity to rate it a 1. Is that all the people who are on here complaining about one of the greatest song writers ever? If so, why do the hundreds who rated this high not speak up?

Yep. Everyone's out of step except you.

When she does go (assuming she's not one of the living dead who'll go on forever) there'll be dancing on the streets North of Watford, believe me. There'll be parties in Sheffield, Barnsley, Bradford, and many other places which the policies of her regime ruined. When that happens I'm sure this number will be on the soundtrack. And I'll be out there dancing with them.

Please stop playing John Hiatt... especially his live cuts. They're like audio torture.

Sounds like Emily Haines is singing this? Is she a member of this band, or just performed on this song?

Why did Kula Shaker attempt to cover this.....it still sounds so fresh.

wow, someone defending U2 by calling the opposition self indulgent??? have you even heard of U2 before? Bono invented self-indulgence.

I'm fortunate to like both country and Depeche Mode...Johnny Cash's version of "Personal Jesus" is great

Amen. All technicality, no heart.

But try getting the rest of the world to see that.

If you had offered a constructive criticism of the song rather than lumping it with the "tedium of all these guitar led marathons", I might have believed you actually were offering something more informed than a snide opinion.

Continue to, as you put it, "belittle" him as you wish. I find it much more entertaining to belittle the uninformed.

This song is rated way too low.  If you're a fan, please consider raising your rating.

Oh not so fast there Limey, it doesn't take Peter
to give your nation a bad name. Blair Brown and the Wicked Witch of the West Thatcher did a bloody good job of showing their "pompous self reverential guff..."

Not a surprising comment from someone who gives Oasis and The Cranberries a 10 rating.

tiggers wrote:

Self indulgent tedium as are all these guitar led marathons, a nice solid 1

It seems poor Alanis has painted herself into a corner - a jaded corner at that.
Apparently there is nothing quite as scary as pissed-off chick music. Rock it girl

If JC were around he'd send these spineless twits back to their own personal jesus with a guitar string and the back of his fist.

Aargh! Genesis! The group that launched Phil sodding Collins on an unsuspecting world. Is there such a thing as a Music Crimes Tribunal? If so Collins should be hauled before it toot sweet to answer for his crimes. It was nice to see him make a complete arse of himself on the satirical TV programme Brass Eye, the (in)famous 'pedophile' edition, where he was conned into backing a campaign of "nonce-sense". Even better, when he realised he'd been had, instead of just taking it on the chin and shrugging his shoulders, he went ballistic, completely ape, which only added mightily to the entertainment.

Wimp-rock at its very worst. Just awful.

If that reunion tour ever happens, put me on a plane to somewhere far, far away. :puke:

Sounds like a guy? that gets manicures and cries when you tell him that dolphins died when he ate a tuna sandwich. Substance, Lack of.

Sounds like something I heard on Sesame Street.

Followed Little Feat today...Hum.

In fact, I think I might be less intelligent because of it.

Sorry...

Sadly, I had to downgrade this from "Excellent" to merely "Quite Likable," because of the fake cello and flute - especially since I'm sure Counting Crows could've commanded real instruments for the song.

Hmmm.... you rated Pink Floyd a 9 from the Mothers album...seems like you must have been pretty stoned to do that coming from way back in history.

Arguably his best song ever.
I can only assume that anyone that doesn't like it is either:
A) Joking
B) Brain Dead
C) A Celine Dion fan

I think Pete Townshend "borrowed" that between-verse guitar riff for sections of Tommy.

Music from back when the music was important and not the production. Great stuff.

They're London Irish, and it's a Ewan MacColl song about the city of Salford.

Speaking of New Order, just saw the film 'Joy Division' in Dublin. Good movie.

Just because you can use sound effects doesn't mean you should... just another crappy 80's pop song.

Hard to not like.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the song order on this CD change with the reissues? I remember the last song being the "Excellent Birds" on the original issue.

I hear Anna Ternheim

The bf and I had both voted this Sicko Barfo months ago......

...now that's he's just dumped my BY LETTER....

...imagine how i hate this now :puke:

...please Bill, I beg of you, stop playing this song or send us all some pepto bismal!

These spliffs are designed to take you away and if you got another boat to catch, go for it.

Why is this one getting such a rating smackdown?

When I take a ride with my best friend
I hope he never plays this song again
Because if I do, I will stab myself in the eyes
But I'll do it to him first.

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

harsh but fair

What, are you 12? Take your childish trolling elsewhere.

could be the lowest rated "song" i've seen and it deserves it.

So how come on BBC I always hear reference to "BEAR-ack" Obama? That's not how he says it. It's "bah-ROCK." Are we *sure* you folks always get pronunciations right? 8-)

He makes a good point. What, then, shall we make of the word "worchestershire"?

this is one of those songs DJs put on so they can go out and smoke a Marley

I always thought this song had a nice driving sound that should be enjoyed loud. But after "Ride My See-Saw", it just sounds lame.

/signed

pure garbage, i don't care who she is, what she did, or what legacy she carries, this sounds god aweful.

Perhaps he should stay away from politics...? Just a thought, use it don't use it!

I am really amazed at how polarized the comments on PG's music are. Not many artists inspire so much love or hate without much in between. I wonder what that quality is? I have always loved his music. To my mind's ear he carries a voice of sincerity, exudes a conscious, caring awareness and the music always has a depth that can change my mood. Admittedly "So" was an overproduced pop gem, but it still has an enduring depth that very, very few pop records achieve.

Essential Tull!

...especially hearing this after BRMC's all you do is talk (as an example of a recent master), this track doesn't sound like it's received the same pre-broadcast normalisation treatment RP uses on its broadcast library...

...sounds comparatively muffled...

The bf and I both have radioparadisse playing in our apartments. We wince every time this song comes on. We call it that song. We hate it, unfortunately, we seem to be the only two people who voted it Sicko-Barfo.

Electronica can still have some soul, this has nothing for me.

I remember hearing an interview once by Ian about how he hated writing lyrics. He quite readily admits that the lyrics are silly and ridiculous. IMHO these lyrics were never intended to be "acoustically" redone.

Did they rent the services of a 2 year old chimp on drums?

Brits also pronounce Schedule 'Shed-YOO-al'. Why not pronounce School 'SHOOL'?

In the Guantanamo Bay torture room?

How long is the album version.

Perhaps RP's popularity has pulled in all sorts of "mainstreamers" who are dragging down the ratings on great music like this.

Maybe we need to hear that crappy new Bruce Springsteen song again.

For a non-DM fan, can someone please tell me what of theirs is actually good? So for instance, this song I rate a 5. I'd like to like at least a couple of DM tunes.

I am allowed to listen to internet radio, and to a limited extent surf the web at work. Images like that one are right out.

Damn, had to turn the subwoofer down.

Hey dude..The Nirvana version is far superior to this..I don't like his music and think he's overrated...that clear enough for you?
Fancy a coffee ? ">

That's one way of looking at it - being systematically and wilfully destroyed by the Thatcher regime is how many others of us looked at the decline at the time, and since.

By the way, I don't really care about the album cover.

oh well must get back to my Richard Clayderman greatest hit album.

I know many view Security as Gabriel's greatest, or among the best, but it always fell short for me, and marked his departure point into a greater degree of commercialism (which to be fair I now enjoy). Yes, Security demonstrates the beginning of Gabriel's love for technology and digital recording, and for this deserves merit. But at the time, IMHO, the evolution was far too punctuated, and Peter Gabriel (3) still stands in my mind as his greatest album. All of that said (sorry), this is still an excellent tune, though the live version from the following year is perhaps the best recording around.

I love this album... anybody know what Chicane is up to these days?

If by country you mean Johnny Cash Yes I like country, as do you dumbass and YOU like Oasis one of the worst bands in history... , as for Bowie he's CONTRIVED SHIT and if you can't see that you're as stupid as you sound LOL!

So why do all these great artists come from Manchester?

Your comment is a bit radical! but I agree with it... The Joshua Tree was the last U2 album. Is the last U2 album I've bought

If you cared to read the origins of this post you would understand the full picture...if calling Bowie a tosser offends you so much then I suggest you admit yourself into a secure institution as this world is much too cruel and hurtful for those of an ultra sensitive nature such as yours...now to coin a phrase STFU!!!.

What is this whinging limey hour?

Bowie's the tosser here...he was a one horse race, in the right place at the right time...hung with the right set..humped a few of them, re-invented himself over and over,and he's been around ever since like a bad smell. Nirvana were a unique un-pretentious group who just got on with it until Cobains death, leaving a bunch of songs as fresh today as when first heard.

It's sidesplitting that people think it's a Nirvana song, and the fact it pisses him off so much shows his true self..the twat

Excellent tune from an excellent album. (I think it was on "Touch"...)

just wonder: what makes Mr. Peter "Worldmusic" Gabriel so scared to do a new album? I bet he´s just scared that he´s not able to reach his own status.

Stingray

YEP

All I ever wanted
was a ridiculously dated haircut.

yuck yuck yuck yuck YUCK

This gets a 5 from me...would get more if there wasn't the pungent aroma of Sting all over it..

she's the one-eyed fiona
she's the one-eyed fiona
she's the one-eyed fiona
she's the one-eyed fiona
she's the one-eyed fiona
she's the one-eyed fiona
she's the one-eyed fiona
she's the one-eyed fiona
she's the one-eyed fiona

Okay, we get it. Move on.

No...not getting any pleasure from this still the contrived shit it's always been...he belongs with Wizard, T Rex, Slade and all that glam crap

Same here. I've bought so many of their CDs since discovering RP that I haven't had time to listen to them all!! Can't get enough.

This is forever associated in my mind, for good or ill, with ITV's Sunday morning football (that's 'soccer' to those of you the wrong side of the Pond ;-)) highlight programme, which uses the chorus as its theme tune.

Sorry, I still can't find anything to like about this bozo or his songs!

interesting: the faux popcorn intro is highly reminiscent of a Phil Collins hit...

And you're the other half of the reason everyone thinks the 80s sucked!

Ha Ha



DP is great!

Perhaps....if it were a country song.

Definitely Morrissey. Hmm, perhaps that's because I'm an American? Nope. All those whining country singers don't hold a candle to the pit of talentless narcissism known as Morrissey.

The remastered Joshua Tree is out TODAY in the U.S. :-)

And this song is my #2 favorite U2 track. (Bad being #1.)

I Wish I did when Bowie or Blunt are on

How's the gun crime goin over yonder?

Ah, but so much of the show was a deliberate sendup of those cheesy British cop shows. That's what I was refering to. I agree that the show was brilliant. I was very disappointed that it didn't run longer than it did.

It might be a nice piece of writing, but the logic is not nice at all.

"I think the reason the rest of you (you being non Americans) don't choose to like Country is that country comes from our country, the United States of America, and not from your country, some other place. "

Utter tosh.

The reason I don't like country music is that 90% of it cloying, sentimental gloop, bereft of authenticity and presented in a way that jars with my taste buds.

It is an issue of taste, not nationality. Nationality is a matter of fact, taste is a matter of opinion. Once we start listening to music on the grounds of national origin, it is a short step to fascism. You would know you live in a fascist state as you would see national flags everywhere, and externally originated ideas would be trashed, and xenophobes would start appealing to the nationalist streak, talking sentimentally about 'this great country' and constrasting how great 'our country is' and how it is under threat from 'other countries.'

The antidote to this is the free exchange of ideas, so I'm glad to hear a little country on RP, and I hope that I can learn to enjoy the 10% of country music that is acceptable to me, and that we can all share in the joy of music, wherever it comes from...

A fantastic, overlooked track from their best album. I only wish their early albums would be remastered and reissued. Has anyone noticed how poor the CDs sound?

Ibut.... somebody tell me who wrote this song!!! I tought was a '60's song....

Which version are you listening to? Both the remastered versions leave a lot to be desired, but the original 10 track CD sounds great.

wow. I just don't understand the 34 "1" ratings on this.

Coool stereophonic effects on the drum solo (left-to-right, then right-to-left)

Wow. Nice comeback. Let's try this! At least I HAVE a country (listed under my tag). With the abscence of one under yours, I will have to assume that you are a nomad with no country, no home, no family, no friends, no currency (worthless or otherwise) and MOST importantly.....no taste in music (with regards to Bob Dylan)

-you are probably an alright dude and I always appreciate a good cheapshot. :)

First - that's two people singing in harmony, not one vocalist.

white rap

I'm sure there's a better song on this album...

Maybe you have to live in America to appreciate this sort of gloop? Every live music venue in Melbourne will feature better music than this, tonight and every night. I'm sure at least one of the bands could come to the sonic rescue...

Collins not only divorced his wife by fax, but sang Another Day in Paradise about the divisions in society between the 'have's' and the 'have not's' while actively supporting the most socially divisive Prime Minister Britain ever had in Margaret Thatcher.

I'm not interested in microphone technique, I just reject him as a person...

Wasn't this bit in the movie Birdy?

Conclusion: You are a dummy.

(seriously, let's cut the crap. Right? Right.) :)

I have appreciated Bob Dylan's music for many years and have no problem with his voice

If they only had something to say it might justify their contived and dark urbanity.

count me in too 18

The Edge= a human effects box who can barely play. What a poser.

blonde on blonde,nashville skyline,blood on the tracks,hard rain,80s dylan... the guy is a lyrical and musical contortionist, whereas gabriel has the same canned sound, though i liked the sledgehammer video once.

and shame on you for the hawking slur, which is itself likely indicative of the quality of your perception.

Head and shoulders above Dylan? Not down here on planet Earth.
I'm a huge Gabriel fan, but seriously, Dylan is in a league by himself.

Fascinating that Dylan always gives rise to a distinguished bimodal, love-hate rating distribution here on RP. It is very rare otherwise. I thought that Dylan was a sacred cow like the other icons of his time, e.g. Beatles, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd.. These all have very narrow "hate-tails" on their songs here.

I am curious to know what characterizes the two love/hate listeners.

The association with Top Gear and all that car porno has almost ruined this song for me.

This song is so played out, I don't know how anyone can really get excited by it anymore.

I'm 38 and clearly miss the generational impact of this song, but am old enough to have heard it played to death ALL my life. Perhaps the worst of both worlds.

Don't get me started on the piano section that goes on forever.

How can you insult Electronica? Electronica is already an insult to music!!! :puke:

Over the course of a day this song fits in with the whole vibe of RP. For me, it's a little to British sounding.

OK seriously, what the HELL is with RP and Peter Gabriel? He had a novelty song in the late 80s/early 90s and a couple of decent (for commercial radio) comeback songs since then. Everything else is boring.

RP's obsession with him is as weird as coming here and finding that the guy who performed "Dominic the Christmas Donkey" was revered as a musical genius.

Shades of The Smiths?

This is awful! Please make it stop!! Everything is out of tune... the vocals, the guitars. Add in the droning constant beat with no interesting changes, and you get pure drivel. Of course, the defeatist moonbat lyrics don't help. Not up to the usual high RP standard at all.

Songwriting took a quantum leap when Dylan hit his stride.

"Take a look at the lawman
Beating up the wrong guy.
Oh man! Wonder if he'll ever know
He's in the best selling show?"

That would be DCI Gene Hunt. What an uncannily prophetic lyric.

Different usually equals Worser ;) (not a word, but am using it anyways)

You'd like to think Dylan fans are all just pretending to do so, are incapable of any original thought other than "Baaaa" and are just generally bad people. But isn't it really just wishful thinking on your part? Yes. Yes it is.

Not liking Son Volt, well, I guess I could see how some might be able to explain that away. But you don't like Dylan, either? Wow. I guess some people are just born with no musical taste. It's probably genetic so I wouldn't beat yourself up about it too much.

Another "rock classic" that is overplayed and overhyped. Can't we bury this crap and move on?

Enough with the Peter Gabriel already. One trick pony. Time for the pasture or glue factory.

Anyone know anything about this album??

I think you had to be there in time. I was. I love it.

all Brit playlist ???

Blargh, Brit Emo anthem of the 90:ies...

oy. stop whining thru yer goddamn nose you little putz.
strictly for teenangst soap opera soundtracks.
pure rubbish.

On a mac press ctrl-delete and you can give this track the negative score it so richly deserves.

They split up earlier this year

It must be said, however, that none of their subsequent albums (CD's, whatever) had the scope and hunger of their work up to Joshua Tree. Every release since has had at least two excellent pieces, but none has had the same power. It's a burden that most musicians would be glad to have, since Joshua Tree is probably one of the ten greatest albums.

God what a dirge. A mediocre pub band at best, who happened to be in the right place at the wrong (for most of us) time and thus achieve some short-lived yet ill-deserved stardom. Thank christ they're not on the radar any more.

But, I respect Nutsy's well-written and cogently argued support - clearly if someone of his/her intellect says Oasis are the best band in 30 years, the rest of us should sit up and listen.

Fabulous song, mediocre movie.

Of course living in the UK you could go to Solsbury Hill in Somerset, but it would be raining, and you would get stuck at roadworks behind lots of caravan drivers with driving gloves and a packed lunch in tupperware 'just in case i get peckish on the B roads and there is no Little Chef nearby' and then you would find out the hill is only 188 metres high anyway.

can anyone think of a band that people love/hate more than this one? (i happen to love them-but i'm not mad if you hate em)

Could you translate that into English?

I find Carbon Leaf's music to be lacking in something, can't say exactly what it is.

Those that do not have "glory days" memories stirred up by the song may more easily remember it as the dreck that it is.

-Dinsey

Well, this is just ridiculous. How simply do I have to put it? I'm giving the SONG a 1 to bring down the SONG'S rating. I might not be rating the song ACCURATELY, but I am still rating the SONG.

You accused me of rating the BAND, which I am not doing. Whether or not you approve of my method of voting, I am indeed voting on the SONG, not the BAND.

Nice to hear the writer's take, but oh, it makes me long for EmmyLou's version.

I WAS rating the song, numbnuts

Is it just me or is this song just colorless and boring????

I love the extended piano solo at the end. It just goes and goes to the point where I wonder if the engineer hadn't faded him out, that he might still be in there playing today!

If he keep on "singin'," his voicebox gonna break.

Peter Gabriel the Bob Dylan of the UK...cannot believe madonna is more famous. Kinda like movies, trash sells.

Am I going to be crucified for saying that I like the Liza Minnelli/Pet Shop Boys cover of this song much, much better?

wow, somebody that puts down Bobby D really doesn't deserve the pleasure of listening to music. Maybe Fallout boy is more your style?

You are wrong.

NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! NOT THIS CRAP AGAIN!

Gee, I don't think I've ever heard the U2 version....

Whistling like that always reminds me of Tarantino's "Kill Bill" movies

How about making noises that sound like they come from real instruments? :puke: :puke:

Interesting, I'm from rural Iowa, where we only get bombarded by crappy country stations. I would never have thought this was country. Just solid rock.

I think this song deserves about a 4, but I shall give it a 1, just to bring the overall rating down as much as possible.

I wish those English people would just stay over in their country and stop exporting their crappy music.

What a lame comment. It barely rates rebuttal. Some men actually like voices that can sing in tune. You know, like Marianne Faithfull or Beyonce.

What do you mean, NOW? This was released in '72.

Wow - nearly 2 pages of comments from one playing (1/5/07). That must be a near record.

Sorry, but this seems a bit indulgent to me.
Although I could see how it might please a person chemically lubricated, with a comfy beanbag to nod out on...
it's just distracting me while at work.

Does this have the same bass line as Paul Weller / The Jam's "Town Called Malice"?

Anyone ever hear the Paul Young version??? The worst cover of any song, any time, any where, any how!

Phil Collins called, he wants his voice back.

As they had to pay me per half hour, that would have been a very expensive decision to make.
And their problem would then not have been solved.
I guess you would never make a wealthy/rich buisinessman.

That's the criteria by which we're to judge whether or not we like a song? The historical signficance and tragic personal circumstances of its subject?

Not much for well crafted and intelligent lyrics are we?

Yes, and we will leave you people down here with Kelly Clarkson and that idiot Simon on American Idol dictating to you what is cool and not.

I still stand by what I said before. I can't believe I live in a world full of people who would place Visions of Johanna below a 10. Please Aliens, I am waiting.

Song started at a 7 and finished as a 4 after 7 long redundant minutes...

Will probably be a 3 after the next time it comes on.

U2 Fucking suck. I dont care what anyone says. Bono is an absolute doorknob, and they just suck. Completely. Iesu Grist dwi dim yn dallt o gwbl pam mae pawb yn hoffi nhw, iesu, mae nhw'n IFERNOL!!!

They were smart: they turned of the radio. A beautifull day obviously does not include U2.

This album pioneered the use of digital sound files.

It's easy to forget, now, how groundbreaking it was two-and-a-half decades ago. No home computers, no (common) digital sampling, no World Music movement.

Even though I don't care as much now for The Gabe as I did then, this album has Historical Document stamped all over its digitally manipulated photo cover.

Lack of emoticons only affects those that have no sense of humour.
RP is not better off without me, neither off you or anybody else. You're on the edge of being offensive. Personal attacks have absolutely nothing to do with musical taste (or your obvious lack of it). You might be a good person, in some area, but I think with opinions like yours I rather not have you as an acquaintance.
I utterly enjoy all comments, probably the negative more than the possitive, even if they are towards music I really like.

This sounds like cheesy 80's film music-- like something out of Ladyhawke or Krull. :)

I used to think Kate Bush was one of those Capital A Artists that I just happened to not like. But the cover image of Liza Minelli and voice of Cyndi Lauper is convincing me that the I was the one in the right after all.

:)
I really like original comments

Of course not. I'm not suicidal!

It's turgid, melody-free and badly produced. Is that bagpipes in droning the background? The lyrics are incomprehensible where they aren't simply repeated "Aah Aah Aaaaaah" (i.e. the last 2/3s of the song). Also, WTF is "Biko"?

Anyone know if this band has any relation to Pet Shop Boys? Besides sounding a lot alike?

Something that amuses me: A lot of people mocked Fastball a few songs ago for being a one hit wonder. Then PG, who has had one major and one minor hit, and nobody can rush to their keyboards fast enough to fawn over how transcendentally genius he is.

Just play Sledgehammer and get off the stage.

has anybody ever seen a comment by physicsidiot that wasn't utterly negative?

AWESOME

I'm always happy when I have a fresh opportunity to 1 rate a U2 song, but a very, very, very overplayed song really highlights the experience. Thanks!

U2, now CP. That's two 1's in a row.
RP must hate me this morning :(

what's going on here!!!? I'm trying to get a good feel for this CD before buying it and all i get is:

a) people shitting all over it

b) people saying it's the second coming

is there a middle ground somewhere!!!?

1. Because you should realize that there are also people that (really) don't like it
2. Because it is in our rights to share our opinion
3. Because our opinion is as valuable as yours
4. Because it makes me feel good to share the fact that U2 sucks
5. Because it gives a good feeling to people who share this feeling: Yes I utterly enjoy reading comments from people who agree with me, so I guess that is vice versa
6. It is probably as easy for you to skip our comments as it is for us to think that your praise is misplaced
7. Happy new year

Could we please pack these boys onto one leaky boat with Oasis and send them adrift somewhere? Deep water preferably.

Try looking up the original on "Life thru a lens" by Robbie Williams - it's even better.

A typical Peter Gabriel formula-- Create a simple, easily digestible short musical phrase, say very little, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat...

Repeat again.

Someone needs to teach him that music isn't about just making a few nice sounds over and over again. Pop song construction may not be brain surgery, but it's amazing how few pop musicians are truly gifted in it.

Chills me every time!

anyone with the name 'boys' in their band title should be stabbed in the eyes.

Story goes that when the Stones were ready to release a 45 in their early days, they'd stamp a test and drop it off at some miscellaneous radio station in the hinterlands and drive around in a car with an AM radio while the record was playing. Then they'd tweak it so it sounded good in the Mini or whatever crank piece of tin they'd used ... and release it. I adore Gabriel, but I think he must use a Mercedes 500 some other vehicle I will never own.

were people this seriously gay back in the 80's? anyone with the name 'boys' in their band title should be stabbed in the eyes.

This is the first song I have ever seen with only a 5 lowest rating...but give it time.....

I liked the other version of this song better... can't remember who it was.... woman? slower?

This was grabbed from the greatest-hits package of a few years ago - so it's their fade, not mine. I'll dig up a copy of Joshua Tree & fix it when I can.