![]() The Wall (1979) [ larger cover art ] |
We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teacher leave them kids alone
Hey teacher leave them kids alone
All in all it's just another brick in the wall
All in all you're just another brick in the wall[[#Notes|1]]
We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey teacher leave us kids alone
All in all it's just another brick in the wall
All in all you're just another brick in the wall
''Wrong! Do it again. Wrong! Do it again.
If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding! How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?
You! Yes, you behind the bike sheds, stand still, laddy!''[[#Notes|2]]
| scrubbrush (All lost in the supermarket) | Posted: May 16, 2013 - 12:01 This album is to my kids as Sgt. Pepper was to me. They have been raised on it. My nine year old can tell Waters from Gilmour in songs he's hearing for the first time. To me, this album is profound in a way that almost no other albums can be |
| snitramc (earth) | Posted: May 05, 2013 - 10:41 I must be broken. Never did like this album. It sounded like the same song played over and over on 4 sides of vinyl. Bring it. |
| fredriley (Nottingham, UK) | Posted: May 05, 2013 - 10:36 Proclivities wrote: I don't know if it's really "lost on most people" - most people probably learned about the use (and misuse) of double negatives in elementary school. It's use in this tune is a good application of verbal irony, sort of like Carly Simon's lyrics to "You're So Vain". It was certainly lost on much of the chatterati and Press commentators at the time. I remember when it came out, and stayed at No. 1 for many weeks, and all the pundits were banging on about the double negative and completely missing the whole feckin' point of the song. Hardly surprising. As it happens, the double negative is very common in European languages, such as French ("je ne sais pas") and Italian ("non so nulla") to my knowledge. |
| coloradojohn (A Mile High and then some, Cherry Creek, Denver) | Posted: May 05, 2013 - 10:34 COOL! It has come to pass -- this, played just after ST's School! --------------- Posted: May 03, 2006 - 08:54 Now this brings back chills... and if we could just cue up Days of Our Lives from The Wall... YOU! YES, YOU! STAND STILL, LADDIE! STAND STILL! Ya can't have any pudding if ya don't eat yer meat! How can ya have any pudding if ya don't eat yer meat? --You're comin' along! |
| linzie | Posted: Apr 16, 2013 - 20:31 Relayer wrote: I absolutely love the fact that Roger purposely penned a double negative in the chorus. It is probably lost on most people, but the double negative is a very clever way of contradicting the phrase that "we don't need no education"; showing that you actually do need education. Saw The Wall 2 weeks ago in Orlando. Second time seeing the show in 2 years. Words cannot describe how incredible it was. ....saw both in 2 years in Ft. Laud!!! ....amazing! Tried to get a fellow Floyd fan to go BOTH times, but he couldnt do it if Gilmour wasn't there?!! TOTALLY his loss....It's like saying you wouldn't see Paul McCartney....."If you can't be with the one you love,......" |
| ziakut (Slightly North of Obvlivion) | Posted: Apr 04, 2013 - 06:55 sajitjacob wrote: Some time in the mid nineties my flat mate at the time asked me if I fancied a road trip to France (from Norfolk) so he could visit his parents and we could have boozy sort of a road trip. As one does when young. I was between jobs and it sounded like fun so off we went. After an adventurously drunk time in Paris we drove to Mulhouse to visit his parents. We listened to the entire album followed by the "Final Cut". The car was completely silent during the whole thing and the following day we visited a WWII cemetery. My head was still full of Waters' scalpel lyrics, the result was one the few genuinely heart rending moments of my life; all those graves and all that horror. Thinking about it still brings a lump to my throat. On the same trip, I also had a religious experience while gazing at a stained glass window in Norte Dame, however I suspect that has more to do with the spectacular hangover, hairy dog and many double espressos than any kind of true spiritual awakening. Fear and Loathing in Alsace Lorraine. Thanks for the sharing the visual. Interesting read. Nice post. |
| sajitjacob (Christchurch NZ) | Posted: Mar 03, 2013 - 20:01 Some time in the mid nineties my flat mate at the time asked me if I fancied a road trip to France (from Norfolk) so he could visit his parents and we could have boozy sort of a road trip. As one does when young. I was between jobs and it sounded like fun so off we went. After an adventurously drunk time in Paris we drove to Mulhouse to visit his parents. We listened to the entire album followed by the "Final Cut". The car was completely silent during the whole thing and the following day we visited a WWII cemetery. My head was still full of Waters' scalpel lyrics, the result was one the few genuinely heart rending moments of my life; all those graves and all that horror. Thinking about it still brings a lump to my throat. On the same trip, I also had a religious experience while gazing at a stained glass window in Norte Dame, however I suspect that has more to do with the spectacular hangover, hairy dog and many double espressos than any kind of true spiritual awakening. Fear and Loathing in Alsace Lorraine. |
| Lazarus (Bethany) | Posted: Mar 03, 2013 - 19:34 Everybody in my church loves this profound song... and this seminal album... |
| kdarwish (Turku, Finland) | Posted: Feb 13, 2013 - 00:33 Dreamy quality art and content (message), thank you. |
| Proclivities (Paris of the Piedmont) | Posted: Dec 12, 2012 - 07:25 Relayer wrote: I absolutely love the fact that Roger purposely penned a double negative in the chorus. It is probably lost on most people, but the double negative is a very clever way of contradicting the phrase that "we don't need no education"; showing that you actually do need education. Saw The Wall 2 weeks ago in Orlando. Second time seeing the show in 2 years. Words cannot describe how incredible it was. I don't know if it's really "lost on most people" - most people probably learned about the use (and misuse) of double negatives in elementary school. It's use in this tune is a good application of verbal irony, sort of like Carly Simon's lyrics to "You're So Vain". |
| ziakut (Slightly North of Obvlivion) | Posted: Dec 12, 2012 - 07:13 Always have been in love with the simplistic, genius bass part! |
| ipo (Germany) | Posted: Nov 29, 2012 - 18:41 The Walll !!! OK, we in Germany came over it. Peace on Earth!!!! |
| Ahnyer_Keester (Chicago Il) | Posted: Nov 29, 2012 - 18:38 The tragic thing is that this really is a very good album, but the classic rock stations grind it into the ground. I you avoid it like the plague for a few years and then let yourself listen again, it is much better. I had to do that with Led Zepplin for a bout 14 years. Stupid radio. |
| ziakut (Right Here) | Posted: Oct 29, 2012 - 10:27 Though I'm sick of this tune and much of this album...it's still stellar and have a soft spot for the way they pushed thru the crap of 1979 with this song! |
| egsstaff | Posted: Oct 10, 2012 - 14:14 The London Royal Philharmonic Orchestra does a wonderful version, just a hint! |
| (former member) (hotel in Las Vegas) | Posted: Oct 10, 2012 - 13:46 bingo by jingo... love this song... love this album... |
| (former member) (hotel in Las Vegas) | Posted: Sep 27, 2012 - 23:00 romeotuma wrote: We love this song... |
| (former member) (hotel in Las Vegas) | Posted: Sep 02, 2012 - 19:04 t00lur wrote: romeotuma = Bill ![]() |
| ziggytrix (Dallas, TX) | Posted: Aug 27, 2012 - 10:33 ![]() |
| JIan (Phoenix, AZ, USA) | Posted: Aug 27, 2012 - 10:31 midigitguy wrote: A simply superb guitar solo... ![]() |
| Rob22 | Posted: Aug 27, 2012 - 10:29 Ouch. |
| spigolli (Peachtree City, GA, USA) | Posted: Aug 08, 2012 - 13:42 stevendejong wrote: ...Also, of the 26 separate numbers on the album, only 4 would qualify as playable on commercial radio (Another Brick In The Wall, Part 2; Mother; Hey You; and Comfortably Numb).... Run Like Hell was a commercial radio staple, and Young Lust made a good run as well. |
| planet_lizard (Sagittarius Dwarf Elliptical Galaxy) | Posted: Jul 30, 2012 - 03:08 midigitguy wrote: A simply superb guitar solo... |
| t00lur (happy petergabriel free land) | Posted: Jul 27, 2012 - 00:40 romeotuma = Bill |
| vanmas (Leiden, Netherlands) | Posted: Jul 27, 2012 - 00:36 One of their biggest hits... Remains good, even after heard it more than a thousand times! |
| Aud (lost in lakecity) | Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 03:03 This song was out when I was studying for my 2nd class FCC license. We would all scream this song at appropriate intervals during study time at school. What good did a 1st class do me? Ray-gun deregulated the Media a very few years after. Now we have Clear Channel and FOX. What an improvement.... |
| stevendejong | Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 03:02 jberko wrote: This was Pink Floyd's big break into commercial rock. Up until then, they were an album rock band. I know that Dark Side was commercially successful, but it was on their terms. This was a whole lot more geared towards AM and FM pop-rock air play. Not saying its awful, but it is nowhere as good as earlier efforts. I don't agree on the commercial rock and radio-aimed songwriting. In fact, The Wall was a concept album, which means it was intended to be played in it's entirety, quite like all predecessors up to and including Dark Side Of The Moon. Also, of the 26 separate numbers on the album, only 4 would qualify as playable on commercial radio (Another Brick In The Wall, Part 2; Mother; Hey You; and Comfortably Numb). That's 15%. Granted, the album that came before, Animals, which is my favorite, had 5 numbers, none of which were radio-friendly. Wish You Were Here had 5 as well, with 2 radio-friendly ones (Have A Cigar; Wish You Were Here), i.e., 40%. Dark Side Of The Moon had 10, with 2 rather successful rock radio tracks (Time; Money), i.e., 20%. |
| stevendejong | Posted: Jul 08, 2012 - 02:53 reindeer wrote: Hate this song and the whole album. It's so depressing that someone close to me committed suicide listening to it. Fucking depressing shit. Please Bill, there are better songs out there. While of course you have every right to hate an album, especially if it has such a negative association for you, which I am sorry to hear, let's be realistic and not confuse correlation and causality. The person close to you did not commit suicide because The Wall is so depressing. |
| SweTex (Swede living in Texas) | Posted: Jun 28, 2012 - 16:55 I think it was New Musical Express back in the day that had come up with an alternate version of the lyrics to this song in their review of this album. I can only remember a few lines, goes something like this: " We dont need no inspiration we dont need no thoughts at all" and "Hey! Rock star! Give the fans a loan!" I'm a big Floyd fan, but I remember thinking that was kinda funny. |
| SweTex (Swede living in Texas) | Posted: Jun 28, 2012 - 16:38 Relayer wrote: I absolutely love the fact that Roger purposely penned a double negative in the chorus. It is probably lost on most people, but the double negative is a very clever way of contradicting the phrase that "we don't need no education"; showing that you actually do need education. Saw The Wall 2 weeks ago in Orlando. Second time seeing the show in 2 years. Words cannot describe how incredible it was. I saw the Austin show in May and yes..incredible. Are you sure he penned that purposely, btw?I mean if that's the case, I guess Waters thinks we need thought control too... |
| 1wolfy (Mission Viejo California) | Posted: Jun 28, 2012 - 16:32 A proper education begins at home only to be 'supplemented' by learning institutions. Unfortunately these institutions have become dangerous ! I often wonder if they do more harm than good. |
| jberko (Franklin, TN) | Posted: Jun 28, 2012 - 16:31 This was Pink Floyd's big break into commercial rock. Up until then, they were an album rock band. I know that Dark Side was commercially successful, but it was on their terms. This was a whole lot more geared towards AM and FM pop-rock air play. Not saying its awful, but it is nowhere as good as earlier efforts. |
| reindeer (Pandora) | Posted: Jun 25, 2012 - 14:13 Hate this song and the whole album. It's so depressing that someone close to me committed suicide listening to it. Fucking depressing shit. Please Bill, there are better songs out there. |
| Relayer (Gainesville, FL) | Posted: Jun 25, 2012 - 14:12 I absolutely love the fact that Roger purposely penned a double negative in the chorus. It is probably lost on most people, but the double negative is a very clever way of contradicting the phrase that "we don't need no education"; showing that you actually do need education. Saw The Wall 2 weeks ago in Orlando. Second time seeing the show in 2 years. Words cannot describe how incredible it was. |
| willmcnaught (Eugene Oregon) | Posted: Jun 25, 2012 - 14:10 Just read on-line — when the Sandusky dude in Pa. reported to jail —the inmates were singing to him "teacher— leave them kids alone!" |
| stevendejong | Posted: Jun 25, 2012 - 14:10 "We don't need no education..." "Yes you do, you just used a double negative!" - Maurice Moss, IT Crowd A comedy series as recommended as this song. Warmly. |
| Hannio (Austin, TX) | Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 09:28 The last bit in the song "Stand still, laddie!!!" reminds me of when I was a guest of Her Majesty's British Forces Education Service while my dad was assigned as liaison to the 1. Deutsch-niederländischen Korps in Muenster. I went to the school at the neighboring Royal Army base since there was no American school. Anyway, our geography teacher, Mr Shepherd, was an old Scot with quite a volatile temper. Our classroom was next to the gym locker room, and one day the kids coming back from PE were particularly boisterous and making quite a bit of noise. Mr Shepherd had all he could take, grabbed an old sneaker out of his desk and stormed out of the room. A few seconds later there was quite a lot of yelling and screaming and boys pleading, "No Mr Shepherd, no!" We were all quite amused, if not a little nervous when he returned, and quite calmly resumed the lesson. |
| TimeWaster | Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 09:19 rommi wrote: this song always makes me take a brake from work :) Hannio wrote: You work at an auto parts store? |
| Hannio (Austin, TX) | Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 09:14 rommi wrote: this song always makes me take a brake from work :) You work at an auto parts store? |
| Imkirok (The Arctic Hinter Land) | Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 09:13 Saw Roger Waters do The Wall live on Sunday night. Fantastic show. It was amazing to be just a few feet from the guy who wrote this masterpiece, and its impact really hits you when you see it live. |
| sirdroseph (Yes) | Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 09:12 This album gets a resounding meh. |
| stunix (Narrowboat nr Caen Locks) | Posted: May 05, 2012 - 15:25 kaybee wrote: Maybe I'm not getting it but the lyrics have always irritated me. I understand that the public (is that the right term?) school system in Britain really sucks and has been used to keep the working and poorer classes down. But children do need a (good!) education otherwise they are easily lead around by the nose by the powers that be... witness the gradual dumbing down of America due to enormous education cuts since the 80's. And Canada's not much better....On the other hand...: If ye don't eat yarrr meat, how can ya get any puddin???? Possibly reading too much in to it, for me, as a Brit, its just about the schooling system whereby the kids are just processed like items on a conveyor. My british schooling was very much like this and I think that it still is. the normal comprehensive schools dont have enough money to pay for educated teachers who are willing to spend extra time supporting the misguided children leave alone channeling the gifted. there is currently a fight to update the teaching of computers which is stuck in a silabus of teaching microsoft word, powerpoint and excel (microsoft donated the teaching supplies some years ago). there is no understanding of networks or programming. RasPi is hopefully going some way to resolve this one issue. However there will always be poor teachers who will use the hatred in their lives and take it out on the defenceless kids . |
| ereme (From a deep, dark fjord, Norway) | Posted: May 05, 2012 - 15:19 I don't know why but this track always get me into a positive mode..strange when I read the lyrics.. |
| coy (san antonio) | Posted: May 05, 2012 - 15:19 to be fair though it's not really the teacher's fault alot of them are trying to do a good job it's the school board and the whole political system of public education that incarcerates the young minds and tries to condition them for society i agree with the sentiment of the song however public education is a crime against humanity |
| lkovathana (Chicago, Illinois) | Posted: May 05, 2012 - 15:16 Yes, a good song for working at the office on a Saturday. Hah, I don't think I am significant enough to qualify as a brick though. |
| toomanyollys (43.360368,77.020855) | Posted: Apr 26, 2012 - 01:42 rommi wrote: this song always makes me take a brake from work :) What a delightfully appropriate comment for this song... |
| rommi (Berkeley, CA) | Posted: Apr 23, 2012 - 00:22 this song always makes me take a brake from work :) |
| kcar | Posted: Apr 03, 2012 - 22:36 fredriley wrote: What amused me enormously when this came out was all the reactionary green inkers and pedants banging on about how ungrammatical "We don't need no education" is, which missed the song's point by a country mile and walked straight into its irony. This reminds me of one fateful year I spent in a cheapissimo boarding school as a kid, when they insisted on feeding me Marmite sandwiches, and told me that if I didn't eat my Marmite I'd not get my sweet. Because they were too feckin' thick to realise that Marmite made (and still makes) me gag, and that I wasn't being wilfully obstinate, I did without my puddings for a whole year. If you don't eat your slime how can you get any swill? Your story smacks of a bait-and-switch tale out of Dickens. It takes me back to own experiences of dealing with dishonest and dim authority figures, thankfully free of Marmite or any foodstuff. I'd think at the time, "We kids all know you're bullshit. Deep down, you must know you're a lump as well. Do you really think you're fooling us for a second?" As I've posted way too many times, I'm really tired of this whole album. But I thank Roger Waters for flipping off all the shams and bullies who were really supposed to teach and guide us. |
| (former member) (hotel in Las Vegas) | Posted: Apr 03, 2012 - 22:24 This song is soooo good it puts a spring in my step this spring night... |
| midigitguy (Massachusetts) | Posted: Mar 25, 2012 - 08:20 A simply superb guitar solo... |



