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westslope
(BC coast)
Posted: May 15, 2013 - 07:43
 

 fredriley wrote:

Yes, so was I in my teens. (For kids of the Net generation reading, SW was the only semi-reliable way of international broadcasting in the pre-Internet days, hence its use by spies.) Back in the Cold War days, SW radio was...interesting, to say the least. My favourite was Radio Tirana, from the seriously weird and extremely repressive and isolationist Albania (Enver Hoxha's Albania made North Korea seem like a beacon of openness and rationality), which had some pretty 'idiosyncratic' takes on world events many of which were unintentionally comic. Like ROTFL, dude :o)

I still have a SW radio at home, though it only has a couple of bands. I must crank it up again to see what remains on the airwaves.

 

Once upon a time in the late 1970s I stuck my thumb out over a 5 year period and managed to cover a good chunk of South America and Africa.  The coolest ex-pats always had SW radios.  The coolest local intellectuals always had SW radios.  

I'll bet big money--C$100K--that 'spies' are still using SW radio.  Safer and more reliable than other techniques that are easily monitored.



FourFortyEight
Posted: Mar 25, 2013 - 15:56
 

Damnit... Can't buy this??? Wtf???

Rockit
(Ottawa ON)
Posted: Mar 13, 2013 - 08:03
 

You know what? If a friend at work never told me about RP I  probably never would have discovered
this very cool group & many other artists. I count my blessings!


4merdj
(donde el viento se devuelve)
Posted: Dec 21, 2012 - 13:33
 

 mistabird wrote:
Einfach guter Sound    !!
 
Ja! {#Cheers}

oldsaxon
(Wales via Vancouver, BC.)
Posted: Dec 21, 2012 - 13:32
 

Numbers stations still creep me out but I just turned this up so....good song. giving it a nine
 edit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvr6o7fBcTY


mistabird
(frei republik allgäu)
Posted: Dec 09, 2012 - 06:06
 

Einfach guter Sound    !!

seangostage
Posted: Oct 07, 2012 - 12:17
 

Love this band, have not heard this track.

oldsaxon
(Wales via Vancouver, BC.)
Posted: Sep 18, 2012 - 07:30
 

Number stations just creep me out.

fredriley
(Nottingham, UK)
Posted: Jul 17, 2012 - 10:32
 

 1wolfy wrote:
Love this !!  As a kid I was really into short wave radio...i'd often listen to the "numbers" and marvel at their secret meanings
 
Yes, so was I in my teens. (For kids of the Net generation reading, SW was the only semi-reliable way of international broadcasting in the pre-Internet days, hence its use by spies.) Back in the Cold War days, SW radio was...interesting, to say the least. My favourite was Radio Tirana, from the seriously weird and extremely repressive and isolationist Albania (Enver Hoxha's Albania made North Korea seem like a beacon of openness and rationality), which had some pretty 'idiosyncratic' takes on world events many of which were unintentionally comic. Like ROTFL, dude :o)

I still have a SW radio at home, though it only has a couple of bands. I must crank it up again to see what remains on the airwaves.

Mr_Cabbagehead
(The Front Range)
Posted: Jul 17, 2012 - 09:33
 

Amen Brother!

blotto
(127.0.0.1)
Posted: Jul 17, 2012 - 09:29
 

PT is pure awesome.

1wolfy
(Mission Viejo California)
Posted: Jul 17, 2012 - 09:27
 

Love this !!  As a kid I was really into short wave radio...i'd often listen to the "numbers" and marvel at their secret meanings

fredriley
(Nottingham, UK)
Posted: Jul 17, 2012 - 09:27
 

 matz wrote:
 spy number stations? What does that mean?
 
See Wikipedia, then have a listen at Numbers Stations. I'd not heard of them before listening to this track then someone commenting on the audio clips at the end. Go back a page or two in the comments and you'll see.



RedGuitar
(Iowa, USA)
Posted: Jul 17, 2012 - 09:25
 

I really like this song!!!

merkin_muffley
(Down the rabbit hole.....)
Posted: Jul 05, 2012 - 00:57
 

There is a great longer version of this on Recordings 2.

Hard to find but well worth it lots of extended versions, jams and demos.

matz
(Bamberg, Germany)
Posted: May 15, 2012 - 00:30
 

 fredriley wrote:
Aw, Bill, you cut off the spy number stations sample at the end of this track, which really are eerie and complement the song. Please reinstate the cut off bits on the next play, pretty please :o)
  spy number stations? What does that mean?



matz
(Bamberg, Germany)
Posted: May 15, 2012 - 00:29
 

Can anyone help?
What do those numbers mean the woman speaks in the outro of the song? 

jnesser
Posted: May 02, 2012 - 11:46
 

LOVE PT!!!

FlatCat
(Chicago)
Posted: Apr 13, 2012 - 07:07
 

Wow, this just gets better and better. Amazing.

stunix
(Narrowboat nr Caen Locks)
Posted: Apr 13, 2012 - 07:02
 

as my ole' man would say...
      "They dont write them like this anymore!"

Stingray
(FREE INTERNET)
Posted: Mar 12, 2012 - 15:48
 

GENESIS 2.0

horstman
(Syracuse, New York)
Posted: Dec 08, 2011 - 06:34
 

Have you heard even less on Recordings? It is so sublime.

"Fuck You and your book too, you can have it back, When I'm gone, these songs will,  Will be my tracks.

And I had a stupid dream that I could change things But I'm a martyr to even less

I hate the ground that I have walked upon Nothing I've done has ever mattered long."

Gotta love the full length version of songs. There is nothing like a 14 minute song. Steven Wilson is a master of song writing.



chilibob
(Peachtree City)
Posted: Dec 08, 2011 - 06:29
 

Indeed!
 
Canlistener wrote:
What a way to get my morning going!  Thanks Bill
 



Canlistener
(Ontario Canada)
Posted: Dec 08, 2011 - 06:23
 

What a way to get my morning going!  Thanks Bill

SinisterDexter
Posted: Nov 06, 2011 - 14:21
 

 fredriley wrote:
Aw, Bill, you cut off the spy number stations sample at the end of this track, which really are eerie and complement the song. Please reinstate the cut off bits on the next play, pretty please :o)
 
Sounds like he re-instated them. Awesome!


fredriley
(Nottingham, UK)
Posted: Oct 25, 2011 - 07:11
 

Aw, Bill, you cut off the spy number stations sample at the end of this track, which really are eerie and complement the song. Please reinstate the cut off bits on the next play, pretty please :o)

westslope
(BC coast)
Posted: Oct 25, 2011 - 07:07
 

Slow-hand prog rock at its best.

Seahunt
(Parent's Basement)
Posted: Oct 25, 2011 - 07:05
 

I would love to see these guys.  Anyone know when the may tour?

lshinkawa
(Berkeley, CA)
Posted: Oct 06, 2011 - 01:25
 

Love the melancholy nature of this band.

1wolfy
(Mission Viejo California)
Posted: Sep 23, 2011 - 14:56
 

YES, so true TheMagus wrote:
PT are a superb band who put as much energy into ensuring excellence of production as they do creating sonic masterpieces. Stupid Dream one of their best.
 



horstman
(Syracuse, New York)
Posted: Aug 04, 2011 - 09:32
 

 smackiepipe wrote:

That's a great DVD, and yes, they kicked this song's ass!

 

The version on Recordings is also Damn Fine! "F* you and your book too, you can have them back!" Haunting tune.

TheMagus
(Memento mori UK)
Posted: Aug 04, 2011 - 05:13
 

PT are a superb band who put as much energy into ensuring excellence of production as they do creating sonic masterpieces. Stupid Dream one of their best.

rtrudeau
(Bay Area, California)
Posted: Jul 11, 2011 - 17:19
 

That Gracie moment is one of the (many) moments that keep me a loyal RP listener. I truly love you guys.

FlatCat
(Chicago)
Posted: Jul 03, 2011 - 19:59
 

This gets better with every listen.

PFM
(Out on a limb)
Posted: May 09, 2011 - 10:58
 

Bill: Gracie needs to have her own entry in the Now Playing list.

leathepea
(Hickory, NC)
Posted: May 09, 2011 - 10:52
 

Classic song from PT.  =9

DrLex
(Belgium)
Posted: May 01, 2011 - 15:23
 

jpdribbler wrote:
anisbet wrote:
$39.99 for the album? .....(Stupid Dream)
 
Why not try the remastered version for $14.28 (over at A.com) instead? Don't think the original mastering and artwork is worth the additional $25.71.
 
The remaster is good, especially if you can play DVD Audio. Or if you're nuts like me and have the tools and skills to rip the 5.1 tracks to disk and create your own stereo downmix. The stereo mix on the remaster is OK especially compared to today's pathetic mainstream CD mastering standards, but a straightforward stereo downmix from the surround version has so much more dynamic range.
There's also an extended version of this song amidst those 5.1 tracks.
I do miss the original artwork though



adamdbenson
(CA->IL)
Posted: Apr 07, 2011 - 19:45
 

the hook smacks of "kick-ass-ness"

jpdribbler
(Northern Germany)
Posted: Mar 31, 2011 - 00:14
 

anisbet wrote:
$39.99 for the album? .....(Stupid Dream)
 
Why not try the remastered version for $14.28 (over at A.com) instead? Don't think the original mastering and artwork is worth the additional $25.71.



anisbet
(Sacramento)
Posted: Mar 07, 2011 - 08:25
 

$39.99 for the album? .....(Stupid Dream)

sirdroseph
(Yes)
Posted: Jan 27, 2011 - 06:06
 

Yea, this is one of the Tree's good'ns!{#Clap}

smackiepipe
(Western North Carolina)
Posted: Jan 27, 2011 - 06:05
 

 Propayne wrote:
Hard for me to pick a favorite PT tune, but this comes close for me.

Check them out playing this live on the "Arriving Somewhere" concert DVD. 
 
That's a great DVD, and yes, they kicked this song's ass!


haretic
(toward Abad, just south of Maitri)
Posted: Jan 03, 2011 - 17:18
 

Bill's dog seems to agree that this is pretty eerie stuff.  He started howling at the speakers when the Conet material played. Great!


             
fredriley wrote:

Bump for info:

 
gabbadar wrote:
It sounds like the sample at the end of this song is from spy number stations. Shortwave radio stations that broadcast strings of spoken phonetic letters, words, or morris code, believed to originate from intelligence agencies, and used to send information, or instructions to undercover spies. The Conet Project records these messages, and has a group working on cracking the code. You can download a huge collection from Archive.org too. They're great for sampling from. Very eerie, often playing strange music before and after the message is broadcast. The voices are usually synthesized, but sometimes recorded voices, even from children which makes them all the stranger.
 
Bosami wrote: 


Wilco used some samples from this very same collection - (The Conet Project) on their album - 'Yankee, Hotel, Foxtrot.'

As an owner of the Conet CD's - I can attest that it is certainly among the strangest, eerie material in my collection.
 



TerryS
(The other SW)
Posted: Jan 03, 2011 - 17:16
 

I agree with Gracie.

nevar23
(Georgia)
Posted: Oct 24, 2010 - 13:23
 

Guh, this song is gut ripping amazing.

Jeff09
(Gainesville, Florida)
Posted: Sep 22, 2010 - 20:50
 

these guys do very interesting, very nice music

garycha
(Bristol, UK)
Posted: Jun 19, 2010 - 01:29
 

 fredriley wrote:

Bump for info:

 
gabbadar wrote:
It sounds like the sample at the end of this song is from spy number stations. Shortwave radio stations that broadcast strings of spoken phonetic letters, words, or morris code, believed to originate from intelligence agencies, and used to send information, or instructions to undercover spies. The Conet Project records these messages, and has a group working on cracking the code. You can download a huge collection from Archive.org too. They're great for sampling from. Very eerie, often playing strange music before and after the message is broadcast. The voices are usually synthesized, but sometimes recorded voices, even from children which makes them all the stranger.
 
 

Cool info thanks.



helgigermany
(Germany)
Posted: Jun 19, 2010 - 00:50
 

Never heared this before! Very, very nice! PT is not very popular in Germany. So i am glad to hear them on RP!
This is really a 8 or maybe more! I have to hear it more times!

Bosami
(Deep in the heart of nowhere)
Posted: May 18, 2010 - 05:46
 

 fredriley wrote:

Bump for info:

 
gabbadar wrote:
It sounds like the sample at the end of this song is from spy number stations. Shortwave radio stations that broadcast strings of spoken phonetic letters, words, or morris code, believed to originate from intelligence agencies, and used to send information, or instructions to undercover spies. The Conet Project records these messages, and has a group working on cracking the code. You can download a huge collection from Archive.org too. They're great for sampling from. Very eerie, often playing strange music before and after the message is broadcast. The voices are usually synthesized, but sometimes recorded voices, even from children which makes them all the stranger.
 
 

Wilco used some samples from this very same collection - (The Conet Project) on their album - 'Yankee, Hotel, Foxtrot.'

As an owner of the Conet CD's - I can attest that it is certainly among the strangest, eerie material in my collection.

countyman
(Pittsburgh)
Posted: May 18, 2010 - 05:42
 

I saw them for the first time here in Pittsburgh May 10th.  Excellent musicians.

 
gregr79 wrote:
Could not resist seeing them again!!- May 1st  - Bogarts in Cincinatti!!  A lot shorter ride than up to Cleveland from Dayton!!