![]() Substance (1987) [ larger cover art ] |
This is why events unnerve me
They find it all a different story
No concern, for wheels are turning
Turn again and turn towards this time
All she asks the strength to hold me
Then again the same old story
Word will travel oh so quickly
Travel first and lean towards this time
Oh, I'll break them down, no mercy shown
''(in the original New Order version: "I'll break them all ...")''
Heaven knows, it's got to be this time
Watching her, these things she said
The times she cried, too frail to wake this time
Oh, I'll break them down, no mercy shown
Heaven knows, it's got to be this time
Avenues all lined with trees
Picture me and then you start watching
Watching forever
Forever, watching love grow
Forever, letting me go
Forever
| :+:_DL (RVA) | Posted: May 15, 2013 - 13:07 I hate this band not so much for their mediocre noise, but for opening the doors for so many untalented whiners who shamelessly mimic them. I don't care what anybody says, New Order sucks. IMHO ![]() |
| Ag3nt0rang3 (Canada) | Posted: May 15, 2013 - 13:06 DaMoGan wrote: Do you feel old? Wait, before you answer... ![]() Now, do you feel old? You bastard. |
| kingart (Brooklyn NY) | Posted: Apr 19, 2013 - 13:02 rdo wrote: IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THIS THEN PLEASE JUSTIFY YOUR EXISTENCE TO YOU? |
| Giselle62 (many bear, big rock, estuary California) | Posted: Apr 19, 2013 - 13:01 it sounds good mixing a little of this kind of stuff in with the other stuff---- |
| jt1 | Posted: Apr 10, 2013 - 03:04 rdo wrote: IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THIS THEN PLEASE JUSTIFY YOUR EXISTENCE To give you someone to feel superior to? |
| Lazarus (Bethany) | Posted: Mar 13, 2013 - 20:04 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote: Better than an enema. I would run with an enigma... love this song... |
| rdo (DC) | Posted: Feb 15, 2013 - 16:40 IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THIS THEN PLEASE JUSTIFY YOUR EXISTENCE |
| cal_tyke (Hampshire, U.K.) | Posted: Feb 10, 2013 - 11:30 One of my favourite tracks ever. It's up there with "Teenage Kicks" (Undertones) and "Say What You Want" (Texas) as 'perfectly' constructed songs. I'm not a musician, so I can't really explain what I mean, other than I could listen to them again and again. While I'm list building, there's also "Tempted" (Squeeze) and "Don't Stop Believin'" (Journey) to go on the perfect songs list. Any other fans of Ceremony might be interested to know that Radiohead did a very listenable cover of the song (and I hate covers). You can find it on YouTube. Lastly, there's plenty of discussion elsewhere on whether this track was officially a Joy Division track or a New Order track. I think it's a Joy Division song first released on a New Order album, but written and first performed by Joy Division. The lyrics are Ian Curtis' and a live version can be found on Joy Divisions' "Still" album with Ian on vocal of course. I grew up in the north of England in the '70s and regret never having seen Joy Division live during those days. Did see plenty of other good bands though... :-) Pink Floyd and Hawkwind played my school hall. Who else can say that? |
| DaMoGan (Beer on the east coast, Beer on the west coast.) | Posted: Feb 10, 2013 - 11:13 Do you feel old? Wait, before you answer... ![]() Now, do you feel old? |
| ambrebalte (Wolxheim (France) - Dreaming about resuming my life in Beijing province) | Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 09:12 Adds substance to the day - |
| ziakut (Slightly North of Obvlivion) | Posted: Jan 15, 2013 - 09:10 Very supremely mediocre. |
| amanzanom | Posted: Jan 10, 2013 - 03:01 freakin good song would definetely like to listen to it more often |
| cShaggy (..inna state of being..) | Posted: Dec 15, 2012 - 00:21 Ag3nt0rang3 wrote: Thanks for this; I've been meaning to dredge up the lyrics to this song for a long time now. peacockangel wrote: This is why events unnerve me, They find it all, a different story, Notice whom for wheels are turning, Turn again and turn towards this time, All she ask's the strength to hold me, Then again the same old story, World will travel, oh so quickly, Travel first and lean towards this time. Oh, I'll break them down, no mercy shown, Heaven knows, it's got to be this time, Watching her, these things she said, The times she cried, Too frail to wake this time. Oh I'll break them down, no mercy shown Heaven knows, it's got to be this time, Avenues all lined with trees, Picture me and then you start watching, Watching forever, forever, Watching love grow, forever, Letting me know, forever. ..thx indeed!..first NO single, released in 1981..reflects more of the darkness of their Joy Division origins.. |
| misterbearbaby (Marina del Rey, California) | Posted: Nov 08, 2012 - 09:12 Pretty insubstantial.... 1. |
| Bobert_ParkCity (Actually, No longer in Park City Utah) | Posted: Aug 01, 2012 - 21:09 hayduke2 wrote: Quality vibes and abit of New Order removes gray hairs! Hoka hey Bobert, you have more spectacular nights in your canyons than you'll find in alphabet town these recent years, a weakened pulse Never the same after Giuliani - I much preferred the edge of the 70's and 80's. Damn. ( btw - I met Seldom Seen. Unfortunately Hayduke (the Abbey Hayduke) is no longer with us. HD2 roams the east end, it seems. ) |
| (former member) (hotel in Las Vegas) | Posted: Jul 10, 2012 - 19:08 Cynaera wrote: I think what caught me first about this song was the drums - very Mick Fleetwood-ish. Heavy-handed, but in a good way; they offset the bass quite effectively. I like this music. Miss you so much, Ann... rest in peace... |
| hayduke2 (Southampton, NY) | Posted: Jul 01, 2012 - 13:39 Quality vibes and abit of New Order removes gray hairs! Hoka hey Bobert, you have more spectacular nights in your canyons than you'll find in alphabet town these recent years, a weakened pulse |
| Bobert_ParkCity (Park City Utah) | Posted: Jun 03, 2012 - 17:29 hayduke2 wrote: memories of being skinny, my hair sheared off by my nubile teen lover, pulsing drums, throbbing lights, just moving to this like a bopping tribe, the sound and the action of young life, for the whole dark night, a dark pulsing room of us Seemed like a dark pulsing city, back then... |
| Bobert_ParkCity (Park City Utah) | Posted: Jun 03, 2012 - 17:22 Still have my 12 inch single from Tower Records on Broadway. God I am feeling old! |
| drsteevo (Location Location) | Posted: May 30, 2012 - 13:06 Wow, that brought back some memories. I am going to have to dig out that CD when I get home and play the whole thing. |
| kcar | Posted: May 30, 2012 - 13:02 Nice contrast with the preceding song—The Dead's "Not Fade Away/Going Down the Road Feeling Bad." Couldn't listen to many consecutive songs of either band, but back to back they're a nice change from the other style. |
| Ag3nt0rang3 (Canada) | Posted: May 08, 2012 - 07:42 rtrudeau wrote: Why do the vocals sound like they were recorded on a dimestore mic? It kind of ruins the song for me. Beats the hell out of the vocal line on the incomplete live recording of this song by Joy Division (which as far as I know is the only recording of this song with Ian Curtis on vocals). The Sound tech had the vocals buried for most of the song. Damn shame. |
| slr242 (San Francisco) | Posted: Apr 28, 2012 - 19:23 Wow, what a surprise. I never hear New Order on RP. I love their early stuff (like this) especially. Thanks for playing it. |
| rtrudeau (Bay Area, California) | Posted: Mar 05, 2012 - 21:53 Why do the vocals sound like they were recorded on a dimestore mic? It kind of ruins the song for me. |
| hayduke2 (Southampton, NY) | Posted: Feb 29, 2012 - 14:34 memories of being skinny, my hair sheared off by my nubile teen lover, pulsing drums, throbbing lights, just moving to this like a bopping tribe, the sound and the action of young life, for the whole dark night, a dark pulsing room of us |
| Bobert_ParkCity (Park City Utah) | Posted: Feb 29, 2012 - 14:25 Yaaaay - an all-time fav. Love love love it. Brings me back to the East Village in the 80's. |
| KurtfromLaQuinta (Deep in the heart of South California) | Posted: Feb 29, 2012 - 14:20 romeotuma wrote: Oh yes we do, metaphorically... and this song squeezes mine... I can feel it! Better than an enema. |
| mcgram10 | Posted: Feb 29, 2012 - 14:17 Right here right now, one of the best things they ever did, kills me every time. |
| Cowboyslikeus (Oklahoma City, Oklahoma) | Posted: Feb 29, 2012 - 14:17 No misplacing that guitar....Love New Order/Joy Division |
| Glencoe_JC (GlasVegas) | Posted: Feb 25, 2012 - 09:42 timeless classic beautifully raw |
| Cynaera (In a hammock under my own vine and fig tree.) | Posted: Nov 26, 2011 - 10:05 I think what caught me first about this song was the drums - very Mick Fleetwood-ish. Heavy-handed, but in a good way; they offset the bass quite effectively. I like this music. |
| Ag3nt0rang3 (Canada) | Posted: Sep 29, 2011 - 08:43 peacockangel wrote: This is why events unnerve me, They find it all, a different story, Notice whom for wheels are turning, Turn again and turn towards this time, All she ask's the strength to hold me, Then again the same old story, World will travel, oh so quickly, Travel first and lean towards this time. Oh, I'll break them down, no mercy shown, Heaven knows, it's got to be this time, Watching her, these things she said, The times she cried, Too frail to wake this time. Oh I'll break them down, no mercy shown Heaven knows, it's got to be this time, Avenues all lined with trees, Picture me and then you start watching, Watching forever, forever, Watching love grow, forever, Letting me know, forever. Thanks for this; I've been meaning to dredge up the lyrics to this song for a long time now. |
| (former member) (hotel in Las Vegas) | Posted: Jul 28, 2011 - 14:04 a_genuine_find wrote: Oh yes we do, metaphorically... and this song squeezes mine... I can feel it! |
| thefoodoflove (Sydney) | Posted: Jun 17, 2011 - 13:26 Love it completely no questions |
| rickhoran (Eastern PA) | Posted: Apr 19, 2011 - 14:10 nice. brings back a lot of memories. |
| a_genuine_find (not me, Radio P) (3rd stone, sol, orion belt, milkyway) | Posted: Apr 15, 2011 - 09:06 romeotuma wrote: This song squeezes my gizzards... love it... |
| DD rabbi_phil (beach) | Posted: Mar 14, 2011 - 22:07 Biscobret wrote: Early New Order & Joy Division made some perfect music. Try Bad Lieutenant. It's Sumner and Cunningham. You might like "Never cry another tear" |
| nelsonha (NOR ¤ CAL) | Posted: Mar 14, 2011 - 22:00 A great song and a great 80's album. I still have this album in shuffle rotation for listening. |
| contractor07 (Ann Arbor Michigan) | Posted: Feb 11, 2011 - 13:16 Simply Awesome |
| Biscobret (Vashon, WA) | Posted: Jan 20, 2011 - 16:31 Early New Order & Joy Division made some perfect music. |
| cirruss (Curacao, Netherlands Antilles) | Posted: Jan 15, 2011 - 11:09 Perfect 10. |
| socalhol (Seattle) | Posted: Oct 12, 2010 - 14:06 jademon wrote: Brilliant. Interpol is certainly channeling this era of New Order, but their music is unique and beautiful in its own right. Whoa! Good call — I somehow never noticed that before, but it's definitely there with this song (and Interpol's "Rest My Chemistry" comes to mind). |
| mbyaudible | Posted: Oct 12, 2010 - 14:06 A brilliant sparse work that would supply New Order with instead street cred before they would go on and mess up in later years. |
| (former member) (hotel in Las Vegas) | Posted: Oct 12, 2010 - 14:06 This song squeezes my gizzards... love it... |
| htowncoog (Texas) | Posted: Oct 08, 2010 - 10:37 Stingray wrote: Certainly not their album with the biggest SUBSTANCE! Still - NEW ORDER is a great band. This song means nothing to me, though! NOTHING AT ALL! |
| salice (51st state) | Posted: Sep 16, 2010 - 02:56 Brings back great memories for me. Driving at night in my friends car at 17. Their 'last' gig at Reading in 1989 etc etc.. |
| cohifi (Denver) | Posted: Sep 10, 2010 - 19:39 I never related to new order. sorry=4. |
| Stingray (EUROPE) | Posted: Sep 06, 2010 - 10:13 Certainly not their album with the biggest SUBSTANCE! Still - NEW ORDER is a great band. This song means nothing to me, though! NOTHING AT ALL! |
| (former member) (hotel in Las Vegas) | Posted: Aug 09, 2010 - 19:02 We be dancing... love it... |
| kittyharker (Arkham) | Posted: Aug 05, 2010 - 09:53 Thanks for playing New Order — Blue Monday would be a welcome addition to the playlist some time soon as well! |


