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oldsaxon
(Wales via Vancouver, BC.)
Posted: Apr 20, 2013 - 13:10
 

 rdo wrote:

{#Arrowd}  Fred, I don’t usually do this because I don’t like to give legitimacy to the arguments of those who willfully marginalize themselves by their arguments, as you do.  When being serious, which I find very difficult to do when debating with you on politics, I would never call the US an empire in the sense the UK was.  If this word is to signify anything, it means colonization and subjugation of distant lands under the crown for national glory, economic betterment, and missionary zeal; none of which has ever applied to the US.  It is Orwellian to call the US an empire.  Every existing state in the world has sought in the past to expand its borders to whatever they are today (or, conversely, they have had them reduced against their will).  If the US is an empire, then so is Chile, or Bhutan, or Chad.  If it needs pointing out to you the difference between US forces now stationed in Japan, Germany, or South Korea, and those stationed in India by UK in the past, then I can only pray you someday awake from such ignorance and misunderstanding.  Think of what King Leopold and Belgium did in the Congo in the 20th Century (genocide on the scale of millions), or France in Algeria in the 60s! and tell me the US is an empire in the mold of France or Belgium or UK.  It’s too stupid to continue.  Enough.  The last I’ll ever write on this subject.



 
Semantic obfuscation. Same thing, different uniforms. 

Gajdzin
(Warsaw, Poland)
Posted: Apr 20, 2013 - 12:10
 

 rdo wrote:

{#Arrowd}  Fred, I don’t usually do this because I don’t like to give legitimacy to the arguments of those who willfully marginalize themselves by their arguments, as you do.  When being serious, which I find very difficult to do when debating with you on politics, I would never call the US an empire in the sense the UK was.  If this word is to signify anything, it means colonization and subjugation of distant lands under the crown for national glory, economic betterment, and missionary zeal; none of which has ever applied to the US.  It is Orwellian to call the US an empire.  Every existing state in the world has sought in the past to expand its borders to whatever they are today (or, conversely, they have had them reduced against their will).  If the US is an empire, then so is Chile, or Bhutan, or Chad.  If it needs pointing out to you the difference between US forces now stationed in Japan, Germany, or South Korea, and those stationed in India by UK in the past, then I can only pray you someday awake from such ignorance and misunderstanding.  Think of what King Leopold and Belgium did in the Congo in the 20th Century (genocide on the scale of millions), or France in Algeria in the 60s! and tell me the US is an empire in the mold of France or Belgium or UK.  It’s too stupid to continue.  Enough.  The last I’ll ever write on this subject.



 
Bravo, rdo. Here, in Europe, we love to hate the USA. I could never figure out why - any wrongs that the US did in the world is child's play compared with what most European nations did, as you very correctly point out (and you mercifully left out the UK out of your examples...)

I guess little people love to hate the big guys out of envy.

Marcin Bruczkowski
www.marcin.bruczkowski.com



old_shep
(Iowa)
Posted: Apr 20, 2013 - 12:05
 

UB40.

rdo
(DC)
Posted: Feb 16, 2013 - 16:27
 

{#Arrowd}  Fred, I don’t usually do this because I don’t like to give legitimacy to the arguments of those who willfully marginalize themselves by their arguments, as you do.  When being serious, which I find very difficult to do when debating with you on politics, I would never call the US an empire in the sense the UK was.  If this word is to signify anything, it means colonization and subjugation of distant lands under the crown for national glory, economic betterment, and missionary zeal; none of which has ever applied to the US.  It is Orwellian to call the US an empire.  Every existing state in the world has sought in the past to expand its borders to whatever they are today (or, conversely, they have had them reduced against their will).  If the US is an empire, then so is Chile, or Bhutan, or Chad.  If it needs pointing out to you the difference between US forces now stationed in Japan, Germany, or South Korea, and those stationed in India by UK in the past, then I can only pray you someday awake from such ignorance and misunderstanding.  Think of what King Leopold and Belgium did in the Congo in the 20th Century (genocide on the scale of millions), or France in Algeria in the 60s! and tell me the US is an empire in the mold of France or Belgium or UK.  It’s too stupid to continue.  Enough.  The last I’ll ever write on this subject.



25demayo
(dreaming of an asado)
Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 08:45
 

Will be at their show in DC this Friday. Can't wait......

Proclivities
(Paris of the Piedmont)
Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 08:35
 

 S-curvy wrote:

  Here's an interesting factoid:  only 10% of US citizens hold a US passport...

 
It's more like 33%.  Still, a pretty low number compared to some other nations.  

ziakut
(Slightly North of Obvlivion)
Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 08:34
 

For my tastes...it has too much 'reggae' feel...the spacy feel is cool...but it's ruined with the "Marley" overtones...I'll take this over actual reggae any day.

bluecshells
Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 08:34
 

{#Daisy}

rdo
(DC)
Posted: Nov 14, 2012 - 14:50
 

 S-curvy wrote:

A) A perfect little troll statement, or B) you are so utterly brilliant as to have an epiphanous and unique understanding of the entirety of artistry's collective soul....  Let's see, A or B????

It might be hard to accept in our greed driven nation, but not all people in the world are driven by money.  Some people are motivated by other things.  Here's an interesting factoid:  only 10% of US citizens hold a US passport, and it's a guess as to how many or few of those actually put that passport to use!  Like most things, experience leads to knowledge ... people, get out and see the world!

 

I think for the sake of accuracy in statements, it should be pointed out that you are the troll and not me.  Your statement, if put to a vote, would be supported by about 1% if the US population.  Mine 99%.  That makes you the troll, not me.  I may be in the minority on this comment board, but not the listeners of this station.  Most people ignore trolls like you and don't even bother responding to your hatred.  I get a little annoyed every now and then and speak up.  But let's be clear about who is the troll.  BTW, I am glad you speak up.  All opinions are welcome here, even the trolls like you.  {#Cheers}  I like trolls.  {#Wave}

TomJB
(Shelburne, VT)
Posted: Oct 14, 2012 - 06:03
 

{#Sunny}

hippiechick
(topsy turvy land)
Posted: May 09, 2012 - 07:45
 

Thievery Corporation rock BURNING MAN

neuticle
(fog fog fog)
Posted: Apr 07, 2012 - 13:54
 

HEAD......SPACE

Blastcat900
Posted: Apr 07, 2012 - 13:54
 

You can't expect to love every song on an album..

coy
(san antonio)
Posted: Apr 07, 2012 - 13:50
 

turning it way up . . . high

ckcotton
(Adding snarky comments since 2007)
Posted: Jan 03, 2012 - 10:11
 

MORE PLEASE!
 

S-curvy
(Lovely Alameda, the Isle of Style)
Posted: Dec 02, 2011 - 16:08
 

 rdo wrote:
 
... The dirty little secret is that nearly all artists, with barely an exception, are dilettantes who play to a dilettante audience.  I cannot think of a single performer who has ever said anything profound on politics.  Slamming the US sells records. It's cheap and vulgar but that's where the money is.  The irony is that all of the artists slam the US for "corporate greed".  What nonsense.  If anyone takes this stuff seriously they are stupid.   

We're the good guys, but not the only good guys.  If we are bad, then we are no worse than any other country.


 
A) A perfect little troll statement, or B) you are so utterly brilliant as to have an epiphanous and unique understanding of the entirety of artistry's collective soul....  Let's see, A or B????

It might be hard to accept in our greed driven nation, but not all people in the world are driven by money.  Some people are motivated by other things.  Here's an interesting factoid:  only 10% of US citizens hold a US passport, and it's a guess as to how many or few of those actually put that passport to use!  Like most things, experience leads to knowledge ... people, get out and see the world!


1wolfy
(Mission Viejo California)
Posted: Dec 02, 2011 - 15:43
 

Like this alot
I think it is the use of the horns

Limpopoking
(The Parish of St. Alfonzo)
Posted: Nov 01, 2011 - 01:04
 

 bluecshells wrote:
Damn if only I could dance in my cube! 
 

If Picasso could paint in them, you can dance in them {#Bananasplit}

piñata
(ibagué)
Posted: Sep 30, 2011 - 07:34
 

This song reminds me my first days with my boy.... beautiful...{#Hearteyes}

bluecshells
(EARTH)
Posted: Jul 29, 2011 - 12:29
 

Damn if only I could dance in my cube! 

fredriley
(Nottingham, UK)
Posted: Jun 28, 2011 - 02:49
 

 rdo wrote:

"Try substituting UK, or England, France, Italy, for America in one of these idiotic songs.  I doubt you'd feel the same way if you were from one of those countries."

I am, being half-English, and not only is it not a problem, it's actually a duty to oppose UK imperialism as much as to oppose, say, US imperialism, from the inside. There are many countries in a country, the US being a classic example. When rightists in the US say "USA: love it or leave it", they mean their particular USA. Similarly, when English conservatives lay claim to England as their own, they're defining the whole country according to the one dominant, highly reactionary, and culturally-specific part. The Amerimacka referred to in this song is a specific culturally- and politically-dominant US, the US of "American Dream" propaganda - most of the US doesn't belong to that bit, and if you can't see that and continue to identify with the dominant culture then you might need to wipe the scales from your eyes.

"We're the good guys, but not the only good guys.  If we are bad, then we are no worse than any other country."

Oh, I think you're being a bit disingenuous there. The US 'projects its force' worldwide and stiffs an awful lot of folk who oppose its 'vital interests', which for imperialists is very good indeed, but for many others, particulary those getting the rough end of the pineapple from Uncle Sam, it makes it worse than most other imperialist nations simply because it's the most militarily powerful. Much as Britain was before Uncle Sam supplanted it as the world's #1 imperial power after WWII.



rdo
(DC)
Posted: May 27, 2011 - 11:34
 

 fredriley wrote:
Thievery Corporation are arch-provocateurs and leftist radicals, likely to wind up anybody to the right of, ooh I dunno, Manu Chao, and they've certainly succeeded on here. Which is no bad thing - that's the whole point of agitprop, to get people arguing about important issues. For me, the nice thing is that they couch the agitprop in such smooth danceable sounds.

Until I looked at the track title I was wondering who the feck Mary Markup was...
  
Try substituting UK, or England, France, Italy, for America in one of these idiotic songs.  I doubt you'd feel the same way if you were from one of those countries. How many artists wrote similar songs about the USSR in the 1970's, or now write about China?  Answer: none.  The dirty little secret is that nearly all artists, with barely an exception, are dilettantes who play to a dilettante audience.  I cannot think of a single performer who has ever said anything profound on politics.  Slamming the US sells records. It's cheap and vulgar but that's where the money is.  The irony is that all of the artists slam the US for "corporate greed".  What nonsense.  If anyone takes this stuff seriously they are stupid.   

We're the good guys, but not the only good guys.  If we are bad, then we are no worse than any other country.



jagdriver
(Just a nod and a wink south of Paradise)
Posted: May 27, 2011 - 11:20
 

In the 'hood, the lyrics to this track are bit different....

bnlkuhns
(The Pacific NW)
Posted: May 27, 2011 - 11:20
 

This song is WAY too long!

unclehud
(300 feet above the planet)
Posted: Mar 25, 2011 - 08:03
 

Jeez!  
 
I was only gonna say, "Love their groove," and discovered that this thread is in the middle of a big political debate.  As an US Navy vet, I can assure you that we're not always the good guys.  Most of the time, however, we do come down on the side of truth and justice.  The problem, is that lots of folks are not interested in truth and justice; they're only interested in keeping the revenue stream aimed at their own pocket.
 
Just my opinion, and thanks to the electrons that surrendered their freedom so I can post it onto the world wide web.

Jelani
(Home of the freak, land of the vague)
Posted: Mar 25, 2011 - 07:58
 

 conscious42 wrote:
The lyrics are definitely "beautiful LIE", not beautiful life, as corrected in a previous comment, and also well noted was that "beautiful lie" matches the irony of "licking honey off the edge of a knife".  A great song.  All you super-patriots that are offended by this song need to wake up, the U.S. has been, and still is, the largest purveyor of violence in the world.  Your pride is misplaced if what you really value is freedom; unless you are one the few super rich you are a money/debt slave like the majority, and our elections and supposed "democracy" are a joke... oh and though you'll probably never do the research that shows this without a doubt, 9/11 was an inside job.  "Land of the Free" (built on slavery) and a "Force for Democracy & Peace in the world" is indeed a beautiful lie.
————-> They try to keep us in the mud Separating us from love But me nah go let dem conquer de I <————-
 {#Roflol} 


cohifi
(Denver)
Posted: Feb 21, 2011 - 21:01
 

 fredriley wrote:
Thievery Corporation are arch-provocateurs and leftist radicals, likely to wind up anybody to the right of, ooh I dunno, Manu Chao, and they've certainly succeeded on here. Which is no bad thing - that's the whole point of agitprop, to get people arguing about important issues. For me, the nice thing is that they couch the agitprop in such smooth danceable sounds.

Until I looked at the track title I was wondering who the feck Mary Markup was...
 
(Fred doesn't hate DB after all then maybe!)


fredriley
(Nottingham, UK)
Posted: Nov 19, 2010 - 12:06
 

Thievery Corporation are arch-provocateurs and leftist radicals, likely to wind up anybody to the right of, ooh I dunno, Manu Chao, and they've certainly succeeded on here. Which is no bad thing - that's the whole point of agitprop, to get people arguing about important issues. For me, the nice thing is that they couch the agitprop in such smooth danceable sounds.

Until I looked at the track title I was wondering who the feck Mary Markup was...

swelements
(Leipzig, Germany)
Posted: Sep 17, 2010 - 02:48
 

Gives my ears a relief from the omnipresent american road trip guitar sound on RP. And I'm NOT referring to the lyrics. Or should I start a aimless debate every time someone sings about Germany during 33 to 45?

ziggytrix
(Dallas, TX)
Posted: May 12, 2010 - 14:08
 

 shutter wrote:
It's simple: Since some folks hate it so much, find a better place than the Godawful U.S. and go there (as jpziller has apparently done).  We won't stop you.  Take the parasitic Neil Young with you, too.
 
Funfact #713:  when the forefathers of America did not like the actions of their government, they moved to Canada.

Never look behind the curtain. 

Ignorance is Strength. 

We've always been the good guys and we always will.

Marcuse
(Ouilmette)
Posted: May 12, 2010 - 13:42
 

 conscious42 wrote:
The lyrics are definitely "beautiful LIE", not beautiful life, as corrected in a previous comment, and also well noted was that "beautiful lie" matches the irony of "licking honey off the edge of a knife".  A great song.  All you super-patriots that are offended by this song need to wake up, the U.S. has been, and still is, the largest purveyor of violence in the world.  Your pride is misplaced if what you really value is freedom; unless you are one the few super rich you are a money/debt slave like the majority, and our elections and supposed "democracy" are a joke... oh and though you'll probably never do the research that shows this without a doubt, 9/11 was an inside job.  "Land of the Free" (built on slavery) and a "Force for Democracy & Peace in the world" is indeed a beautiful lie.
————-> They try to keep us in the mud Separating us from love But me nah go let dem conquer de I <————-
 
Well said and true Conscious One.
The Patriot Act, recent McCain/Lieberman proposed legislation http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/03/a-detention-bill-you-ought-to-read-more-carefully/37116 
and the usual enemy combatant/national security/terrorism catch-all excuse to put anyone's butt in jail if the powers that be choose so, are unfortunately overlooked by the superficially patriotic. 


conscious42
Posted: Apr 28, 2010 - 20:24
 

The lyrics are definitely "beautiful LIE", not beautiful life, as corrected in a previous comment, and also well noted was that "beautiful lie" matches the irony of "licking honey off the edge of a knife".  A great song.  All you super-patriots that are offended by this song need to wake up, the U.S. has been, and still is, the largest purveyor of violence in the world.  Your pride is misplaced if what you really value is freedom; unless you are one the few super rich you are a money/debt slave like the majority, and our elections and supposed "democracy" are a joke... oh and though you'll probably never do the research that shows this without a doubt, 9/11 was an inside job.  "Land of the Free" (built on slavery) and a "Force for Democracy & Peace in the world" is indeed a beautiful lie.
————-> They try to keep us in the mud Separating us from love But me nah go let dem conquer de I <————-



EssexTex
(Gitche Gumee)
Posted: Mar 10, 2010 - 05:06
 

I love this more than fondue.

srose96
(grandma's house)
Posted: Feb 06, 2010 - 16:51
 

One of the best of their genre — of all time. Long live Thievery Corporation!!!!    {#Crown}

bhallmark
(The Administrative Zone of the District of Columbia)
Posted: Dec 05, 2009 - 22:21
 

 Misterfixit wrote:
Ah yes, we are all evil slave masters and Amerikkka is even worse. Huummmm, let's go compare us with one of those middle eastern countries worshiping their bundles of sticks and mud, circumcising young girls with rusty razor blade, chopping off hands, etc etc. Oh yes, how can we possible compare Amerikka with those Wonderful Places? Yep, time to move and Convert. Oh and get momma and the girls a burkah and the boys a nice exploding belt. "Aerimacka" What a pile of naive bullshit. So tiresome. But wait Kids! When the Revolution Comes, there will be only One Channel on the TV and One song played over and over again! And Thou Shalt Obey! (666)
His Mark and Seal.
 
I generally prefer to stay out of these debates, but I just feel compelled to respond.

Just because there are places on the planet that are much, much worse doesn't mean we don't have problems we should address.  Honestly, one has nothing to do with the other.  The US is the leader of the free world, and as with any celebrity, its actions will be scrutinized to the nth degree.  It is the price we pay for our spot in the limelight.

Getting back to my original point though - we should always strive to make things better, irrespective of the behaviors of those around us.  We should fight for what we know is right, not shrug our shoulders and say, "well, at least we're not Yemen."

Your argument is provocative in its imagery but has no teeth. 

j7
(Earth's largest mountain)
Posted: Dec 05, 2009 - 21:42
 

This would be filed under "lukewarm" therefore irrelevant for rating.

DoctorK
(Rockland, MA)
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 12:37
 

 shutter wrote:
 jpziller wrote:
OK...I've listened to this song hundreds of times. As an expatriate living in New Zealand since 9/11, I think it expresses perfectly the ambivalent attitude of millions of non-Americans about the most powerful and influential country on the planet. Besides it's just a great song.

Since the lyrics have been posted and this is a comment board I'll comment.  It's simple: Since some folks hate it so much, find a better place than the Godawful U.S. and go there (as jpziller has apparently done).  We won't stop you.  Take the parasitic Neil Young with you, too.
 
Yeah, let's get rid of all those pesky folks who want our country's actions to, at least, attempt to match its rhetoric.  We'll be oh so much better with a nation full of self-contented do-nothings.



DaveInVA
(In a crumbling Queen Anne mansion in Damnville, VA)
Posted: Nov 04, 2009 - 12:23
 

This is about the only Thievery Corp song I don't feel the urge to mute when it comes on..

shutter
(You can't get here from there)
Posted: Sep 02, 2009 - 11:08
 

 jpziller wrote:
OK...I've listened to this song hundreds of times. As an expatriate living in New Zealand since 9/11, I think it expresses perfectly the ambivalent attitude of millions of non-Americans about the most powerful and influential country on the planet. Besides it's just a great song.

Since the lyrics have been posted and this is a comment board I'll comment.  It's simple: Since some folks hate it so much, find a better place than the Godawful U.S. and go there (as jpziller has apparently done).  We won't stop you.  Take the parasitic Neil Young with you, too.



hellokitty98
Posted: Sep 02, 2009 - 11:00
 

 coy wrote:
i was playing this in the rental car 'visiting' my family in michigan
the culture shift it created was memorable
actually left the cd in the player
some lucky renter got amerimackad all the way to their sales meeting
 
so?


coy
(san antonio)
Posted: Aug 01, 2009 - 22:21
 

i was playing this in the rental car 'visiting' my family in michigan
the culture shift it created was memorable
actually left the cd in the player
some lucky renter got amerimackad all the way to their sales meeting

Welly
(Lotusland)
Posted: Dec 23, 2008 - 10:56
 

 jpziller wrote:
OK...I've listened to this song hundreds of times. As an expatriate living in New Zealand since 9/11, I think it expresses perfectly the ambivalent attitude of millions of non-Americans about the most powerful and influential country on the planet. Besides it's just a great song.

But I am convinced the lyrics posted everywhere else are not quite right. Maybe it's just sung differently from the lyric sheet, which is a common practice, but this is what I get (with my variations in bold):

Miss Liberty turn inna Jezebel
All a de dreams you go sell turn inna hell
Her bed of roses are filled with thorns
Her righteous robes are tattered and torn
If she had only stood for love
That would have been enough
She wouldn't have to hide in her shame
If she had only stood for love
That would have been enough
But now we are all burning in her flames

Amerimacka
Amerimacka, oh what a beautiful lie
Amerimacka
It’s like licking honey off of a knife
Amerimacka
Oh what a beautiful sight
Amerimacka
Amerimacka, oh what a beautiful lie

The land of the free built on slavery
Her conscience is in captivity
The promised land is in the lion’s den
Your culture of greed is got to end
Now we’re laying in the mud
Looking up above
‘Til water just a drop from the sky
They try to keep us in the mud
Separating us from love
But me nah go let dem conquer de I

Amerimacka
Amerimacka, oh what a beautiful lie
Amerimacka
It’s like licking honey off of a knife
Amerimacka
Oh what a beautiful sight
Amerimacka
Amerimacka, oh what a beautiful lie

Generally minor variations except of course for the closing line:
from the pointless "oh what a beautiful LIFE"
to the ironic "oh what a beautiful LIE."
(Ironic as in "licking honey off of a knife.")

AFAIK, if it isn't actually the correct lyric, it certainly ought to be!

Cheers all,
-jpz
 
Your version is what I always thought he was singing. It only makes sense.


jpziller
Posted: Dec 18, 2008 - 22:49
 

OK...I've listened to this song hundreds of times. As an expatriate living in New Zealand since 9/11, I think it expresses perfectly the ambivalent attitude of millions of non-Americans about the most powerful and influential country on the planet. Besides it's just a great song.

But I am convinced the lyrics posted everywhere else are not quite right. Maybe it's just sung differently from the lyric sheet, which is a common practice, but this is what I get (with my variations in bold):

Miss Liberty turn inna Jezebel
All a de dreams you go sell turn inna hell
Her bed of roses are filled with thorns
Her righteous robes are tattered and torn
If she had only stood for love
That would have been enough
She wouldn't have to hide in her shame
If she had only stood for love
That would have been enough
But now we are all burning in her flames

Amerimacka
Amerimacka, oh what a beautiful lie
Amerimacka
It’s like licking honey off of a knife
Amerimacka
Oh what a beautiful sight
Amerimacka
Amerimacka, oh what a beautiful lie

The land of the free built on slavery
Her conscience is in captivity
The promised land is in the lion’s den
Your culture of greed is got to end
Now we’re laying in the mud
Looking up above
‘Til water just a drop from the sky
They try to keep us in the mud
Separating us from love
But me nah go let dem conquer de I

Amerimacka
Amerimacka, oh what a beautiful lie
Amerimacka
It’s like licking honey off of a knife
Amerimacka
Oh what a beautiful sight
Amerimacka
Amerimacka, oh what a beautiful lie

Generally minor variations except of course for the closing line:
from the pointless "oh what a beautiful LIFE"
to the ironic "oh what a beautiful LIE."
(Ironic as in "licking honey off of a knife.")

AFAIK, if it isn't actually the correct lyric, it certainly ought to be!

Cheers all,
-jpz



Govi
(Left Coast)
Posted: Oct 21, 2008 - 08:31
 

This sounds like the death knell of reggae.  Oh, would that it were.


Kittee
(NC- Dreaming of the Mountains)
Posted: Oct 21, 2008 - 08:30
 

 softjeans wrote:

I used to agree...now I know the chorus by heart. This is one of those songs that can get under your skin and become part of your life, so much so that now I can divide my entire musical existence into a "before Amerimaka" and an "after Amerimacka." I never listened to electronica before; now I find the cross-over between electronica and dub fascinating...and wonder if these guys (whoever they are) were pioneers.
 
I always thought he was saying " Mary Marker" which is the name of a girl I went to school with years ago. LOL


softjeans
(Upper Ojai, CA)
Posted: Sep 06, 2008 - 12:34
 

 Burningstar wrote:
Nice relaxing background tunes ... easily forgettable though.
 
I used to agree...now I know the chorus by heart. This is one of those songs that can get under your skin and become part of your life, so much so that now I can divide my entire musical existence into a "before Amerimaka" and an "after Amerimacka." I never listened to electronica before; now I find the cross-over between electronica and dub fascinating...and wonder if these guys (whoever they are) were pioneers.



sporkster
Posted: Sep 06, 2008 - 12:29
 

A solid 7.  Pretty good but I feel like I've heard this track at every mediocre wine bar and lounge in NYC.  A little snoozy.

jdorn1
(Land o' Milk & Cheese)
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 12:44
 

America is great in spite of ourselves. There is room for criticism and its not all black and white (pardon the pun). The fact that we can listen to this song as it criticizes America points out one of the (as of yet) redeeming qualities that make it great...freedom of speech. Lets protect that at all costs peeps.

Besides that...its good music
Ericac
(Lakeville, MN)
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 12:25
 

That was nice and relaxing.
Burningstar
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 12:23
 

Nice relaxing background tunes ... easily forgettable though.