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rascal
(Toronto)
Posted: May 30, 2013 - 20:31
 

Depth, good production....well done

dew34
(Wisconsin-quite woodsy)
Posted: Apr 20, 2013 - 14:22
 

 ch83575 wrote:

Thats terrible, I had no idea.  Its awful that we are moving backwards on several conservation issues, sharks come to mind.  The thought that shark-fin soup has led to the wanton mutilation and death of so many animals makes me terribly sad.

 

As it should, maybe apex predator species, ie wolves, bears, big cats all face elimination for one reason or another. Mostly it is the greed of man and his rapacious nature. Humans, espiecally in America, have a gun problem, that is triple fold inflicted upon the animal kingdom. We do it because we can and some instinct inbred since the days of cave dwelling demands we be the only force of great power in this world. That kind of insecurity is both maddening and nealy incomprehensible.

ch83575
Posted: Apr 11, 2013 - 14:49
 

 xkolibuul wrote:

Elephant conservation methods were very successful over large areas of Africa—until 2008 when China jump-started the global ivory trade by convincing the organization that monitors international wildlife trade (CITES) to grant a one-time legal sale of ivory from those countries that had conserved elephants well.  But that legal sale provided cover for many unsavory characters to start poaching elephants again and trading illegally gained ivory, mostly to China and SE Asia.  Since 2008, elephants have been slaughtered steadily across most of Africa, and 2012 was the worst year yet.  

At this point, South Africa is exceedingly atypical in having elephants that are at capacity in their limited habitats, and relatively well protected in parks—thus the contraceptives that catch peoples' attention.  But even there, experts are worried that poaching will arrive:

http://mg.co.za/article/2012-12-05-experts-alarmed-by-dramatic-increase-in-elephant-killings

Across all of West and Central Africa, elephants could disappear entirely if current poaching rates continue.  And East Africa has seen a huge upswing in elephant killing as well.  It is like the dark days of the 1980s when elephants were slaughtered in droves—only with vastly greater ivory demand now from China.  I would love to proclaim an Elephant Revival, but sadly we have a long, long ways to go to reach that.  

 
Thats terrible, I had no idea.  Its awful that we are moving backwards on several conservation issues, sharks come to mind.  The thought that shark-fin soup has led to the wanton mutilation and death of so many animals makes me terribly sad.

xkolibuul
(Chuckanut sandstone)
Posted: Apr 06, 2013 - 23:25
 

 ch83575 wrote:

I am not an expert in the matter, but I was under the impression that elephant conservation methods have been very successful over large areas of Africa.  Successful to the point where humane methods of population control, including birth control vaccines, are being considered in South Africa (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/15/elephant-birth-control_n_1778127.html). Now, I am not saying that poaching is not a serious problem, and I believe that conserving our natural resources is an obligation that we must take much more seriously globally, but I think that obviously there is somebody doing something right with the elephants.  Like I said, im not an expert on elephant conservation or anything like that, but it seems to me that if some areas of Africa are instituting elephant birth control that it is probably unreasonable to think that our kids will grow in a world without wild elephants.  Maybe we could even call it an Elephant Revival!
 
Elephant conservation methods were very successful over large areas of Africa—until 2008 when China jump-started the global ivory trade by convincing the organization that monitors international wildlife trade (CITES) to grant a one-time legal sale of ivory from those countries that had conserved elephants well.  But that legal sale provided cover for many unsavory characters to start poaching elephants again and trading illegally gained ivory, mostly to China and SE Asia.  Since 2008, elephants have been slaughtered steadily across most of Africa, and 2012 was the worst year yet.  

At this point, South Africa is exceedingly atypical in having elephants that are at capacity in their limited habitats, and relatively well protected in parks—thus the contraceptives that catch peoples' attention.  But even there, experts are worried that poaching will arrive:

http://mg.co.za/article/2012-12-05-experts-alarmed-by-dramatic-increase-in-elephant-killings

Across all of West and Central Africa, elephants could disappear entirely if current poaching rates continue.  And East Africa has seen a huge upswing in elephant killing as well.  It is like the dark days of the 1980s when elephants were slaughtered in droves—only with vastly greater ivory demand now from China.  I would love to proclaim an Elephant Revival, but sadly we have a long, long ways to go to reach that.  

Jersey_Joe
(Where else)
Posted: Mar 16, 2013 - 07:40
 

Great group.  Saw them live at the HBT in blairstown. 5 talented players.

Derecho
(A Land Without Traffic Lights)
Posted: Mar 16, 2013 - 07:17
 

Mrs. Iron & Wine?

ch83575
Posted: Feb 20, 2013 - 08:30
 

 xkolibuul wrote:

I never thought I would say this, but Stingray has a point.  

Elephants are being hunted down and slaughtered all across Africa and Asia for their ivory, most of which is shipped by criminal gangs to East and Southeast Asia, especially China, to be carved into mere trinkets.

There is no revival underway.  The tragic destruction of elephant populations is one of the saddest indictments of humankind's greed and lack of vision.  If current trends continue, it is possible that my kids will grow up in a world without wild elephants.  

Please help by supporting global sanctions against China, the Philippines, and other illegal ivory consumers until they get serious about following and enforcing international wildlife laws. 

   
 
I am not an expert in the matter, but I was under the impression that elephant conservation methods have been very successful over large areas of Africa.  Successful to the point where humane methods of population control, including birth control vaccines, are being considered in South Africa (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/15/elephant-birth-control_n_1778127.html). Now, I am not saying that poaching is not a serious problem, and I believe that conserving our natural resources is an obligation that we must take much more seriously globally, but I think that obviously there is somebody doing something right with the elephants.  Like I said, im not an expert on elephant conservation or anything like that, but it seems to me that if some areas of Africa are instituting elephant birth control that it is probably unreasonable to think that our kids will grow in a world without wild elephants.  Maybe we could even call it an Elephant Revival!

kingart
(Brooklyn NY)
Posted: Feb 18, 2013 - 14:22
 

 xkolibuul wrote:


I never thought I would say this, but Stingray has a point.  

Elephants are being hunted down and slaughtered all across Africa and Asia for their ivory, most of which is shipped by criminal gangs to East and Southeast Asia, especially China, to be carved into mere trinkets.

There is no revival underway.  The tragic destruction of elephant populations is one of the saddest indictments of humankind's greed and lack of vision.  If current trends continue, it is possible that my kids will grow up in a world without wild elephants.  

Please help by supporting global sanctions against China, the Philippines, and other illegal ivory consumers until they get serious about following and enforcing international wildlife laws. 

   
 
Wholeheartedly agreed. Elephant slaughter may be the most visible, or the most egregious, but it's far from the only significant crime against animals and nature. Human scumbags are also murdering rhinos by the hundreds for the same reason as elephants. In addition, wolves in the U.S., whales, particularly in the southern oceans, and tigers and orangutans in Indonesia — and that's the short list — are being hunted to endangered status, next stop extinction, and/or their habitat is being annihilated. The offending countries — China, Yemen, Indonesia, Sudan, and others — and/or the mercenaries who kill these animals don't give a shit about sanctions, the moral dilemmas, or any damage to the chain of life. Japan and Iceland may someday heed pressures to suspend their whale hunting. (Want to save a whale? Stop buying Japanese goods, and tell them why.) Otherwise, thugs and gangsters are in it for money or status. Animals hold a very weak hand. Their best chance may be local summary execution of those caught shooting the wildlife or trafficking their parts. Raise the stakes to raise the consciousness of some bad actors.  
If we were to dub a musical act in dedication to the revival of eradicated species, at this rate it would be a long list of bands. 

xkolibuul
(Chuckanut sandstone)
Posted: Jan 20, 2013 - 00:23
 

 Stingray wrote:

To shoot a beautiful adult elephant cost 100.000 Euro in Namibia!

What revival is meant here...?

Stupid name of another (mindless?) folk-band (with beard, I assume)!

 
I never thought I would say this, but Stingray has a point.  

Elephants are being hunted down and slaughtered all across Africa and Asia for their ivory, most of which is shipped by criminal gangs to East and Southeast Asia, especially China, to be carved into mere trinkets.

There is no revival underway.  The tragic destruction of elephant populations is one of the saddest indictments of humankind's greed and lack of vision.  If current trends continue, it is possible that my kids will grow up in a world without wild elephants.  

Please help by supporting global sanctions against China, the Philippines, and other illegal ivory consumers until they get serious about following and enforcing international wildlife laws. 

   

coy
(san antonio)
Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 10:44
 

 joelbb wrote:
These lyrics came from a Dr. Seuss book.  Gimme a break.
 
no they didn't 
i jumped back into my skin
i do that all the time
 

ambrebalte
(Wolxheim (France) - Dreaming about resuming my life in Beijing province)
Posted: Jan 16, 2013 - 10:41
 

 drewd wrote:

Do we get a discount for shooting an ugly one ?
 
I know, it's a serious matter, I mean, shooting an elephant. For 100 000USD.
But your comment truly makes my wrinkles wrinkle more    {#Roflol}{#Mrgreen}


coy
(san antonio)
Posted: Jan 12, 2013 - 13:57
 

aren't we all elephants after all ??

drewd
Posted: Dec 19, 2012 - 15:49
 

 Stingray wrote:

To shoot a beautiful adult elephant cost 100.000 Euro in Namibia!

 

 
Do we get a discount for shooting an ugly one ?

Chipps
(Yorkshire, UK)
Posted: Nov 01, 2012 - 02:45
 

What bizarre timing! I saw the singer playing (a saw) and singing about nine hours ago in a folk club near Liverpool. She was playing with Gregory Isakov. Amazing voice!

Mari
(île de lesvos)
Posted: Nov 01, 2012 - 02:36
 

up an' runnin' again, good one rp, rough trot there without the website, but the music continued nonetheless, 'on ya! ;)*

joelbb
Posted: Oct 17, 2012 - 22:31
 

These lyrics came from a Dr. Seuss book.  Gimme a break.

Stingray
Posted: Sep 21, 2012 - 16:38
 

To shoot a beautiful adult elephant cost 100.000 Euro in Namibia!

What revival is meant here...?

Stupid name of another (mindless?) folk-band (with beard, I assume)!



dachter1love
Posted: Sep 16, 2012 - 09:14
 

Great band and very cool folks on top of their talent.

rp1125
(nola)
Posted: Sep 14, 2012 - 15:03
 

Quite the easy listening Friday afternoon...time for a nap.

lily34
(lexvegas)
Posted: Aug 15, 2012 - 21:41
 

i rated a 1. now i rate a 6. it's all so emotional and timely.

ppak
(3rd spherical clast - [Map Ref. 41°N 93°W])
Posted: Jul 13, 2012 - 17:13
 

So much of life depends on drops

Poacher
(Brighton, UK)
Posted: Jun 28, 2012 - 06:36
 

Elephant droppings. . . 

ziakut
(The Windy City)
Posted: May 16, 2012 - 08:49
 

This plods along...glad the band name isn't 'Elephant Drop' with a song called "Revival".

prophetzarquon
(woodstock 1969)
Posted: Apr 11, 2012 - 07:30
 



leafmold
Posted: Mar 22, 2012 - 21:37
 

Sounds like Cat Power. Why not just play her?

mcYammer
(Beervana)
Posted: Mar 22, 2012 - 21:33
 

The weakest link of the Be Good Tanyas was revived by an elephant. Instrumentals, yes. Vocals, try another form of expression.

HazzeSwede
(Vinyl Land)
Posted: Mar 12, 2012 - 03:25
 

Nope don't like the vocals...at all !

TerryS
(Another SW)
Posted: Mar 08, 2012 - 21:13
 

Well, I saw once a five-legged elephant and the love interest was a recumbent log. Why bother reviving him?

fredriley
(Nottingham, UK)
Posted: Feb 13, 2012 - 07:51
 

 drewd wrote:
Reviving elephants is never easy. Giving mouth to trunk is challenging.{#Roflol}
 
Quite. And you'd need a piledriver for the chest compressions :o)


mrgus
Posted: Feb 13, 2012 - 07:50
 

 jen3005545 wrote:

This sounds a lot like Fiest.


 

That's who I thought it was too.

jen3005545
(Fort Worth, TX)
Posted: Feb 09, 2012 - 09:10
 

This sounds a lot like Fiest.



Proclivities
(Carrboro, NC)
Posted: Jan 26, 2012 - 12:42
 

 drewd wrote:
Reviving elephants is never easy. Giving mouth to trunk is challenging.{#Roflol}
 
A valid point, but it's probably easier than an elephant attempting to revive a human being. {#Propeller}


LifeIsMusic
Posted: Jan 25, 2012 - 13:06
 

I like it. It's different. Interesting.

paulmack
(the hissing swamps)
Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 13:53
 

Gave it a 7 only because of my misguided sense of what deserves an '8' - and my use of the '8' rating in the past. Probably deserves one from me, even then. Fence-sitter? Evidently.

roulleau
Posted: Jan 12, 2012 - 13:32
 

Very nice. Never heard of them, but want to hear more.

zmatzkin
Posted: Jan 08, 2012 - 14:06
 

Love this album...


vandal
(arriving somewhere, but not here. . .)
Posted: Jan 05, 2012 - 09:20
 

I like it. . . 

drewd
Posted: Jan 05, 2012 - 09:19
 

Reviving elephants is never easy. Giving mouth to trunk is challenging.{#Roflol}

Vinni_NL
Posted: Jan 03, 2012 - 12:30
 

Good to see more of the Elephant Revival! They got some really awesome songs.