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Kaisersosay
(Mighty Mighty Bostown)
Posted: Jun 13, 2013 - 11:59
 

RIP Levon

k-man
(SCruz, CA)
Posted: Feb 07, 2013 - 15:31
 

 sirdroseph wrote:
Agree, it just doesn't get any better than this.  10.{#Notworthy}
 
Yes indeed. This song always puts in seriously emotional state.

and I can't say that of many tunes.

tulfan
(Still in SE MI)
Posted: Jan 07, 2013 - 07:23
 

In the words of SNL's Leonard Pinth Garnell: "unrelentingly bad"...

coy
(san antonio)
Posted: Dec 06, 2012 - 22:23
 

dang some high flyin comments on this here song
 

zepher
Posted: Nov 05, 2012 - 13:00
 




Is that freedom rock?  The Band documentary on Net Flix, etc is good to watch.  Lots of live and studio cuts. Cool the Drummer was the lead singer like the Eagles....





lily34
(GTFO)
Posted: Nov 05, 2012 - 12:51
 

oh, i love this so much.
always reminds me of my mom.

ycb661
Posted: Oct 05, 2012 - 03:50
 

 Papernapkin wrote:
Hillbilly music.
 
So? Most modern pop music (apart from Techno) is or at least descended from "Hillbilly music." The Southern and Appalachian cultures and their stories of lost glory, poverty and suffering (both black and white) are about the best American stories. It's always amazing to me that the very white instrument of the banjo is really Africa. "Ain't that America...?"

rdo
(DC)
Posted: Sep 03, 2012 - 15:04
 

 Hannio wrote:


In the politically correct world of Wikipedia what you say is true.  But I have been reading The Economist and Der Spiegel for decades.  They use "American" exclusively for citizens of the USA, except when they are hypocritically contending that Americans can also refer to all inhabitants of the new world.  Which I don't argue against at all, but I doubt you will ever find a Canadian, a Mexican or a Brazilian referred to as an American in the European press.  And the original point I was making is that Canadians themselves want to have it both ways.  They loathe being referred to as Americans and not specifically Canadians, yet at the same time are offended that the term "American" in common usage (by the rest of the world, not just in the US) doesn't include them.
 

In Spain I met a truly nice person who, after I introduced myself via e-mail as "an American", responded, not disingenuously, "So where are you from?".  I met numerous people in Spain who knew the history of the "Norteamericano/Americano" distinction well enough though.  A citizen of Brazil is Brazilian.  If I am not American, then what am I?  Spain has a convenient way around the debate with the word Estadounidense, which I never once heard used in two years living there.  This is the equivalent of saying in English "I am Unitedstatian" instead of "I am American".   You're right about the Economist, BTW.  In the two other countries I have lived in, Israel (in Hebrew) and Russia, we're Americans, no distinction whatsoever exists  - I learned the langauges well.
     

kingart
(Brooklyn NY)
Posted: Sep 03, 2012 - 14:42
 

And the Joan Baez cover, from Diamonds and Rust, is good too.  But the original is seldom equaled, much less surpassed. 

sirdroseph
(Yes)
Posted: Apr 20, 2012 - 09:01
 

 Papernapkin wrote:
Hillbilly music.
 

Agree, it just doesn't get any better than this.  10.{#Notworthy}

wossName
(Earth)
Posted: Mar 29, 2012 - 08:39
 

 Otomi wrote:
On the German disambiguation page the continental sense precedes the national sense. Repeating this trial with the adjectives American, americano, américain, and Amerikaner produced similar results.
 
While this reflects positively on German Wikipedians, I have yet to meet a German who in a regular conversation would interpret the statement "er ist Amerikaner" as "he is from the northern or southern Americas", rather than "he's from the US".

Hannio
(Austin, TX)
Posted: Mar 29, 2012 - 08:39
 

 Otomi wrote:

Howdy, Hannio. I thought you might be right, so I designed a simple experiment to put your claim that "the world recognizes the term 'American' as a USA citizen" to the test. I looked up America, América, Amérique, and Amerika in the English, Spanish, French, and German Wikipedia pages. I decided that Wikipedia was a good place to look, because its democratic orientation can give us a glimpse at what people in a given online language community tend to think. The first search, on the English language web page, took me to a disambiguation page where the continental sense of the word (North, Central, and South America plus nearby islands) is listed first, then the United States of America. Searches in the other three languages took me directly to the continental description. On the Spanish disambiguation page we are warned that the Real Academia Española, arbiters of linguistic propriety in this language, discourage the use of "America" in reference to the United States. On the main French page for Amérique it is stated that this word should not be confused with the United States of America. On the German disambiguation page the continental sense precedes the national sense. Repeating this trial with the adjectives American, americano, américain, and Amerikaner produced similar results. This experiment tends to confirm what I thought I knew from experience in my travels and contacts with people from around the world, that outside the USA most people understand the words America, American and their cognates in the continental sense.

- Otomi in pedant mode (sorry, folks, I'll try to lighten up)
 

In the politically correct world of Wikipedia what you say is true.  But I have been reading The Economist and Der Spiegel for decades.  They use "American" exclusively for citizens of the USA, except when they are hypocritically contending that Americans can also refer to all inhabitants of the new world.  Which I don't argue against at all, but I doubt you will ever find a Canadian, a Mexican or a Brazilian referred to as an American in the European press.  And the original point I was making is that Canadians themselves want to have it both ways.  They loathe being referred to as Americans and not specifically Canadians, yet at the same time are offended that the term "American" in common usage (by the rest of the world, not just in the US) doesn't include them.

shellbella
(so california)
Posted: Mar 29, 2012 - 08:26
 

 Papernapkin wrote:
 And your favorites list is stuck in the 70s.

On_The_Beach wrote:

This from someone who rated a Tori Amos song a 10?! Thanks for the laugh!  {#Lol}
 
 
Not stuck in the 70's - giving props to the timeless and talented...

Papernapkin
(Mountain View, CA)
Posted: Mar 29, 2012 - 08:25
 

Hillbilly music.

shellbella
(so california)
Posted: Mar 29, 2012 - 08:25
 

{#Notworthy} 

Papernapkin
(Mountain View, CA)
Posted: Mar 29, 2012 - 08:24
 

 And your favorites list is stuck in the 70s.

On_The_Beach wrote:

This from someone who rated a Tori Amos song a 10?! Thanks for the laugh!  {#Lol}
 



scraig
(Santa Barbara, CA)
Posted: Nov 23, 2011 - 11:17
 

Is that Adam Sandler on vocals?

(former member)
(hotel in Las Vegas)
Posted: Nov 23, 2011 - 11:16
 



Everybody in my hotel room loves this song...


 

On_The_Beach
(The Blue Planet)
Posted: Oct 22, 2011 - 21:08
 

 Curley24 wrote:
By far the worst song by the worst band in the history of rock 'n roll. I have never understood the reason we MUST like this band; after all, EVERY pop music critic in every newspaper or magazine would go on and on in love with these guys. I've never met a person who likes the group or any of their songs. . . .
 
This from someone who rated a Tori Amos song a 10?! Thanks for the laugh!  {#Lol}

HazzeSwede
(Vinyl Land)
Posted: Sep 21, 2011 - 05:00
 

We have met the band. {#Yes}

Mita
(Santa Fe, NM)
Posted: Aug 20, 2011 - 20:41
 

It's a history thing. 

Well said! I bet you like the Juliane Werding version better?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s9Z37FSV84
 



Mita
(Santa Fe, NM)
Posted: Aug 20, 2011 - 20:40
 

10 cubed!

michael_a_k
(Germany)
Posted: Jul 20, 2011 - 12:03
 

 Curley24 wrote:
By far the worst song by the worst band in the history of rock 'n roll. I have never understood the reason we MUST like this band; after all, EVERY pop music critic in every newspaper or magazine would go on and on in love with these guys. I've never met a person who likes the group or any of their songs. 

I say this as someone who loves all kinds of music. I have over 3,000 records, a ton of CDs, was a music major in college (for a while) and spend a few dollars at iTunes every week. 

 
Well said! I bet you like the Juliane Werding version better?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s9Z37FSV84



adroc
(slightly left of centre)
Posted: Jul 20, 2011 - 12:03
 

 Curley24 wrote:
By far the worst song by the worst band in the history of rock 'n roll.
 
That's gotta be by far the worst comment in the history of RP message boards.


cc_rider
(Austin Texas. Y'all.)
Posted: Jul 20, 2011 - 12:02
 

 Curley24 wrote:
By far the worst song by the worst band in the history of rock 'n roll. I have never understood the reason we MUST like this band; after all, EVERY pop music critic in every newspaper or magazine would go on and on in love with these guys. I've never met a person who likes the group or any of their songs. 

I say this as someone who loves all kinds of music. I have over 3,000 records, a ton of CDs, was a music major in college (for a while) and spend a few dollars at iTunes every week. 

  Interesting. Since the average rating is over '8', your opinion, while certainly valid, seems to have very few supporters. Just sayin'.



Curley24
(Orcutt, California)
Posted: Jun 18, 2011 - 20:04
 

By far the worst song by the worst band in the history of rock 'n roll. I have never understood the reason we MUST like this band; after all, EVERY pop music critic in every newspaper or magazine would go on and on in love with these guys. I've never met a person who likes the group or any of their songs. 

I say this as someone who loves all kinds of music. I have over 3,000 records, a ton of CDs, was a music major in college (for a while) and spend a few dollars at iTunes every week. 


fredriley
(Nottingham, UK)
Posted: May 18, 2011 - 05:26
 

 onomasticator wrote:
 fredriley wrote:

Ah, right. Being an ignoramus the other side of the Pond I was never quite sure what this was about, but figured it was something to do with the war. A shame it's still being fought, going by messages such as the above. That's a bit like some hard-core Irish Republicans still having it in for England on account of what Oliver Cromwell did 3 centuries ago. Regrettably, the map of the world is driven by inter-State warfare and imperialism, and us grunts just have to accept what results. Pining for a forgotten and defeated State from 200 years ago is both pointless and leads to some very dangerous and reactionary revanchism. Let's just deal with what is, not what should have been, and improve our societies from their current state.
 
Well, being an ignoramus living on same side of said pond, but hailing from the Land of Lincoln, it is my opinion one cannot understand the US without understanding the American Civil War, its causes and consequences.  History can be a pain that way.  

BTW, I also happen to believe one cannot understand England today without understanding the English Civil War - but, whatever . . .  
 
Agreed - understanding history is absolutely essential for analysis, and understanding, of the current state of a society. What is not essential, and indeed is positively dangerous, is nostalgic pining for a State/state from centuries ago and viewing it as some kind of Golden Age. Demagogues and reactionary nationalists love that sort of thing, as was murderously clear during the Balkan wars in the 90s when reactionary Serb and Croat nationalists resurrected mythical states and heroes to inspire and legitimate their campaigns of conquest and ethnic cleansing.

I would recommend the Scottish model. The Scottish National Party has recently won elections to the devolved Scottish parliament, and will be moving for independence from the UK. SNP nationalism is forward-looking, inclusive and social democratic. Modern Scots Nats understand history and the appalling crimes committed in recent centuries (primarily The Clearances in the Highlands) and how history's shaped the Scotland of today, but they look forward to an independent multi-ethnic State in Europe and the manifold social and economic benefits that independence may bring, rather than looking back to some mythical Celtic Eden destroyed by evil, perfidious Albion and bearing massive grudges, as reactionary Scot Nats did in the past. Looking forward is progressive, looking backwards regressive and reactionary.


HazzeSwede
(Vinyl Land)
Posted: May 18, 2011 - 05:19
 

We love the band.

sirdroseph
(Yes)
Posted: May 18, 2011 - 05:09
 

Chills.......every........time, all versions!{#Notworthy}



pinnyrat
Posted: Apr 16, 2011 - 15:56
 

Easily my favourite Band tune.

Businessgypsy
(Deepest, Darkest Florida)
Posted: Apr 16, 2011 - 15:44
 

 mvanderford60 wrote:
...Since the wars, all three groups - American Southerners, Irish and French Canadians have been vilified, portrayed as dirty, ignorant, diseased, breeding out of control, marginalized economically, and generally considered morally deficient by the dominating force — this has lasted for Hundreds of Years, through multiple generations — as indicated by the arrogant and imperialistic comments below.

 This is what the song is about.
  Yes!


Businessgypsy
(Deepest, Darkest Florida)
Posted: Apr 16, 2011 - 15:41
 

 Otomi wrote:
...I thought you might be right, so I designed a simple experiment to put your claim that "the world recognizes the term 'American' as a USA citizen" to the test...
  Well done!


sirdroseph
(Yes)
Posted: Apr 16, 2011 - 15:37
 

Wonderful, just wonderful! 10!

Otomi
(La orilla de la civilización)
Posted: Jan 12, 2011 - 14:39
 

 Hannio wrote:
This is hilarious.  Canadians throw themselves into fits of high dudgeon whenever a Canadian artist is mistaken for an American, and at the same time they are not a little peeved that the world recognizes the term "American" as a USA citizen. 
 
Howdy, Hannio. I thought you might be right, so I designed a simple experiment to put your claim that "the world recognizes the term 'American' as a USA citizen" to the test. I looked up America, América, Amérique, and Amerika in the English, Spanish, French, and German Wikipedia pages. I decided that Wikipedia was a good place to look, because its democratic orientation can give us a glimpse at what people in a given online language community tend to think. The first search, on the English language web page, took me to a disambiguation page where the continental sense of the word (North, Central, and South America plus nearby islands) is listed first, then the United States of America. Searches in the other three languages took me directly to the continental description. On the Spanish disambiguation page we are warned that the Real Academia Española, arbiters of linguistic propriety in this language, discourage the use of "America" in reference to the United States. On the main French page for Amérique it is stated that this word should not be confused with the United States of America. On the German disambiguation page the continental sense precedes the national sense. Repeating this trial with the adjectives American, americano, américain, and Amerikaner produced similar results. This experiment tends to confirm what I thought I knew from experience in my travels and contacts with people from around the world, that outside the USA most people understand the words America, American and their cognates in the continental sense.

- Otomi in pedant mode (sorry, folks, I'll try to lighten up)

mvanderford60
Posted: Jan 12, 2011 - 13:39
 

Just to add some perspective to the whole Canadian/Irish/American Deep South discussion — the French Canadians were beat to shit by the British/Americans during the French/Indian war; the Irish were beat down for centuries by the Brits (galvanizing Ben Franklin in favor of independence, by the way) and the Confederacy got their asses handed to them by the Yankees (with the help of Irish cannon fodder) during the US Civil War.

Since the wars, all three groups - American Southerners, Irish and French Canadians have been vilified, portrayed as dirty, ignorant, diseased, breeding out of control, marginalized economically, and generally considered morally deficient by the dominating force — this has lasted for Hundreds of Years, through multiple generations — as indicated by the arrogant and imperialistic comments below.

 This is what the song is about.

calypsus_1
Posted: Nov 27, 2010 - 20:58
 


The Black Crowes - The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down, Live

"This is a great cover of a great song. No need to compare to The Band or to The Band's "The Last Waltz". the Crowe's are fantastic, ..and simply just paying homage to one of the best American (Canadian) band's ever to hit a live stage, period. "





SinisterDexter
Posted: Nov 10, 2010 - 06:49
 

 fredriley wrote:

Ah, right. Being an ignoramus the other side of the Pond I was never quite sure what this was about, but figured it was something to do with the war. A shame it's still being fought, going by messages such as the above. That's a bit like some hard-core Irish Republicans still having it in for England on account of what Oliver Cromwell did 3 centuries ago. Regrettably, the map of the world is driven by inter-State warfare and imperialism, and us grunts just have to accept what results. Pining for a forgotten and defeated State from 200 years ago is both pointless and leads to some very dangerous and reactionary revanchism. Let's just deal with what is, not what should have been, and improve our societies from their current state.

 

Hear, hear!

Hannio
(Austin, TX)
Posted: May 03, 2010 - 11:05
 

 cosmiclint wrote:

Um, Canadians are "Americans." The United States doesn't get to appropriate the name of the continent we share.

 

This is hilarious.  Canadians throw themselves into fits of high dudgeon whenever a Canadian artist is mistaken for an American, and at the same time they are not a little peeved that the world recognizes the term "American" as a USA citizen. 



Danimal174
(Upstate South Carolina)
Posted: May 03, 2010 - 08:45
 

Never understood the appeal of these guys.

Papernapkin
(Mountain View, CA)
Posted: May 03, 2010 - 08:44
 

 Misterfixit wrote:
Sad and tragic story of the War of Northern Aggression.
 
Sorry you lost your slaves.

TJOpootertoot
(Toronto)
Posted: May 03, 2010 - 08:41
 

 finosj wrote:
Levon Helm, who sang "The Night ...", is not Canadian but Arkansan.
 
Just to throw kindling on the amusing Canadian/American debate here - Robbie Robertson wrote the song and he's Canadian.
It's a testament to his skill that he could grow up a couple of hours from Toronto and write something so far from his own experience that a boy from Arkansas could sing like this...

It's the Canadian-American contrast that's a big part of what makes The Band so special so no point debating the fine points.


jersey_birdman
Posted: Apr 01, 2010 - 17:17
 

The Band    {#Clap}

So many great songs: from this album and others...  play them all

On_The_Beach
(Vancouver BC, Bud)
Posted: Jan 28, 2010 - 15:06
 

 cosmiclint wrote:
Um, Canadians are "Americans." The United States doesn't get to appropriate the name of the continent we share.
 
I think you kind of missed the point. Holborne was simply pointing out that The Band was from Canada, not the U.S.A., and as such the U.S.A. should not refer to them as their own. A valid point I thought. By the same token, we wouldn't take credit for The Doors, CCR, Springsteen and so on. Peace to all you music lovers on either side of the 49th.  {#Meditate}



(former member)
(hotel in Las Vegas)
Posted: Jan 28, 2010 - 14:52
 



This song is good for the ears...



onomasticator
(London, England)
Posted: Dec 28, 2009 - 04:19
 

 fredriley wrote:

Ah, right. Being an ignoramus the other side of the Pond I was never quite sure what this was about, but figured it was something to do with the war. A shame it's still being fought, going by messages such as the above. That's a bit like some hard-core Irish Republicans still having it in for England on account of what Oliver Cromwell did 3 centuries ago. Regrettably, the map of the world is driven by inter-State warfare and imperialism, and us grunts just have to accept what results. Pining for a forgotten and defeated State from 200 years ago is both pointless and leads to some very dangerous and reactionary revanchism. Let's just deal with what is, not what should have been, and improve our societies from their current state.
 
Well, being an ignoramus living on same side of said pond, but hailing from the Land of Lincoln, it is my opinion one cannot understand the US without understanding the American Civil War, its causes and consequences.  History can be a pain that way.  

BTW, I also happen to believe one cannot understand England today without understanding the English Civil War - but, whatever . . .  

calypsus_1
Posted: Dec 13, 2009 - 11:02
 


The Band - "It Makes No Difference" Live



calypsus_1
Posted: Oct 29, 2009 - 23:41
 


Joan Baez - "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" Live

"...one of the best-loved songs ever recorded about the Civil War: "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" by The Band. The song was first recorded in 1969, and was later covered and/or performed by Joan Baez, Johnny Cash, Jerry Garcia, the Black Crowes, Bruce Hornsby, and the Allman Brothers Band, among others... "

"Great performance by a fine folk singer. I love her clear, silvery vocal tone and clear diction."



helgigermany
(Germany)
Posted: Oct 26, 2009 - 08:56
 

Nice song!!

Pyro
Posted: Oct 26, 2009 - 08:56
 

Does this tempo seem awfully slow to anyone else?  Plodding.  And I happen to LIKE the song.  Just not this particular version.

iscoot4peace
Posted: Oct 26, 2009 - 08:56
 

To my mind...this is the definitive version of this fine song.  Levon helm's vocals and that kick-ass horn section sell it!  a classic if ever there was one!