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Cream — White Room
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kcar
Posted: May 14, 2013 - 10:54
 
I prefer the live version from "Live Cream vol. II" but this still works for me. Definitely a period piece, but hey so is "Smells Like Teen Spirit" which Bill is spinning right now. Odd, but I'm more willing to listen to Cream than Nirvana and Nirvana's from my generation. I've gotten really tired of Kurt's gritty, messy anger. It worked back in the early 90s but these days he reminds me of a weekend binge-drinker in my neighborhood. 

Love, love the new "show lyrics" tab. Much easier to spot and laugh about mondegreens now. Always thought Jack Bruce was singing about "landau moonbeams" but no it's "ran-down moonbeams" which makes things so much clearer.  

kdarwish
(Turku, Finland)
Posted: May 14, 2013 - 10:42
 
Ginger Baker's drumming really makes the preternatural quality of this piece, it is "Godlike", thank you.

helgigermany
(Germany)
Posted: Apr 04, 2013 - 09:43
 
Very nice!

kaybee
(Lost in the Wilds of Toronto)
Posted: Feb 09, 2013 - 08:38
 
 mikec09 wrote:
I know it's heresy to say so . . . but . . . Classic example of song that I loved back then that "doesn't stand the test of time".  Even despite Ginger and Eric's efforts . . . 

Sigh. 
 
I've always liked Cream and mostly because of Jack Bruce.  I think he is very underrated as a musician.



kaybee
(Lost in the Wilds of Toronto)
Posted: Feb 09, 2013 - 08:34
 
Had to bump!

Inamorato wrote:
In the white room, with black curtains...

 


RobN
(In the flatlands of East Anglia)
Posted: Jan 31, 2013 - 14:33
 
One of the sound tracks of my yoof and built into my soul so I can't rate it objectively. 10.

Dav3thedog
(Canberra)
Posted: Jan 09, 2013 - 00:30
 
So sorry for people for whom this brilliant song doesn't 'stand the test of time'. Always be the best song ever!!

Rotterdam
Posted: Jan 09, 2013 - 00:30
 
 mikec09 wrote:
I know it's heresy to say so . . . but . . . Classic example of song that I loved back then that "doesn't stand the test of time".  Even despite Ginger and Eric's efforts . . . 

Sigh. 
 
Interesting. I was just going to write something. So I will just say that I agree with you.

mikec09
(Saugerties, NY - a top 10 coolest small town in America)
Posted: Dec 31, 2012 - 06:18
 
I know it's heresy to say so . . . but . . . Classic example of song that I loved back then that "doesn't stand the test of time".  Even despite Ginger and Eric's efforts . . . 

Sigh. 

nagsheadlocal
(North Carolina, the new New Jersey)
Posted: Oct 29, 2012 - 13:10
 
Growing up in the rural South, I had no idea why he was waiting in the "Q" - or was he waiting on "Q" from James Bond movies?

I just figured it was more psychedelic inscrutability.   

martinc
(Ottawa Canada)
Posted: Aug 27, 2012 - 13:19
 
I love screaming guitars and a little wah wah goes a long way with me

lemmoth
(NYC)
Posted: Aug 27, 2012 - 13:18
 

Now there's one you don't hear every day.

Of course I used to hear it every day, for about 25 years, when I listened to classic rock radio.



kurtster
(Back in Ohiya, for now ...)
Posted: Aug 04, 2012 - 21:47
 
I've heard this song a gazillion times and so many versions over the years.  Seen Clapton a half a dozen times over many decades.  Missed Cream.  When Clapton plays this song in whatever band he's curently in, he's just doing a cover.

Finally when I heard Cream do it at their HOF induction again after so many years, it hit me like a ton of bricks.  Its Cream itself that really makes this song so good.  The opening chords sounded perfect as did what followed.  Clapton is made so much better when he plays with Cream.  Don't know why nor do I really care. 

Matyx
(Texas)
Posted: Aug 04, 2012 - 21:09
 
 lily34 wrote:

love this comment.
 



Perfect Conclusion!.

DD rabbi_phil
(beach)
Posted: Jul 27, 2012 - 03:22
 
 Spliff wrote:
Pretty amazing band when Eric Clapton is the weakest member.
 

say what ???

Spliff
(Mountain Home, AR)
Posted: Jul 04, 2012 - 10:33
 
Pretty amazing band when Eric Clapton is the weakest member.

rasimych
Posted: Jun 03, 2012 - 23:53
 
Cream used to be outstanding band as well as the overwhelming majority of songs they did. Jack's "White room" is just fabulous! And don't you argue.

lily34
(lexvegas)
Posted: May 01, 2012 - 20:28
 
 wolfkiss wrote:
I'm not quite sure why the lyrics are taking such a beating.  So many complaints, I went to go read them, and found them full of imagery.  With ease I was able to imagine myself in that tense space of both wanting and not wanting a woman.

What you get from good lyrics or a good poem should be your own.  If you hear/read them and get nothing, that's shallowness on your part not that of the artist.
 
love this comment.

keller1
(In A Gadda Da Vida, Baby)
Posted: Mar 14, 2012 - 17:59
 
 buddy wrote:

Don't have to track them down, lived through them. (gotcha by 3 years   {#Wink}  )

I'd agree with you on Baker & Bonham.  But seriously...Paice & Mitchell?  Can't go there with you. Neil Peart, Keith Moon, Carl Palmer, and Bill Bruford are ahead of them on my list.  What drum community are talking about, btw?  Just askin'....
 
Around my drum school Mitchell is regarded as the best drummer of the classic rock era.

After that it gets a bit less definitive. 

Bonham was probably the most influential.

I do suggest you round up DVDs of Zeppelin and Purple from the early 70s and compare them to anything Baker has done.

He is just not in Bonham and Paice's league.

Peart is a different thing.  No question the most influential rock drummer of the last 30 years.

In terms of pure chops, though, Mitchell, Paice and Bonham would all blow him off the stage.  And I say that as a Canadian who grew up just up the road from the great Mr Peart.



buddy
Posted: Feb 19, 2012 - 16:50
 
 keller1 wrote:

For some perspective on where Ginger Baker stands in the pantheon of classic rock drummers, my suggestion is to track down some Zeppelin, Deep Purple, and Jimi Hendrix Experience DVDs.

The consensus in the drumming community is that Bonham, Paice and Mitchell were the big three in classic rock drumming.

Honorable mention to Moonie and Ringo for style and being exactly the right guy for their respeictive bands.

Baker isn't in the conversation.



 
Don't have to track them down, lived through them. (gotcha by 3 years   {#Wink}  )

I'd agree with you on Baker & Bonham.  But seriously...Paice & Mitchell?  Can't go there with you. Neil Peart, Keith Moon, Carl Palmer, and Bill Bruford are ahead of them on my list.  What drum community are talking about, btw?  Just askin'....



keller1
(In A Gadda Da Vida, Baby)
Posted: Jan 19, 2012 - 04:55
 

For some perspective on where Ginger Baker stands in the pantheon of classic rock drummers, my suggestion is to track down some Zeppelin, Deep Purple, and Jimi Hendrix Experience DVDs.

The consensus in the drumming community is that Bonham, Paice and Mitchell were the big three in classic rock drumming.

Honorable mention to Moonie and Ringo for style and being exactly the right guy for their respeictive bands.

Baker isn't in the conversation.




helgigermany
(Germany)
Posted: Jan 18, 2012 - 22:36
 
Very, very nice!

mistabird
(frei republik allgäu)
Posted: Dec 27, 2011 - 00:06
 
das  ist ja wirklich  legendär  !!  ginger baker  der große  j.bruce  genial  aber der Hammer  eric clapten Legende 
3 Jungs und soooo viel  MUSIC{#Bananajam}{#Drummer}{#Guitarist}  wirklich classic

Proclivities
(Carrboro, NC)
Posted: Dec 12, 2011 - 09:02
 
 salzburg4321 wrote:
Ah, my first 45 RPM....bought at Woolworth's for probaby 50 cents, if that much.
 
Woolworth's stores where I grew up had pretty good record selections back in the 60's and 70's.  I assume the one you went to was not in Austria.

wolfkiss
Posted: Nov 16, 2011 - 12:42
 
I'm not quite sure why the lyrics are taking such a beating.  So many complaints, I went to go read them, and found them full of imagery.  With ease I was able to imagine myself in that tense space of both wanting and not wanting a woman.

What you get from good lyrics or a good poem should be your own.  If you hear/read them and get nothing, that's shallowness on your part not that of the artist.

lemmoth
(NYC)
Posted: Nov 16, 2011 - 12:33
 
Always find myself trying to play air drums to (unsuccessfully) match the brilliance of Ginger Baker on this one.

salzburg4321
(Salzburg, Austria)
Posted: Nov 16, 2011 - 12:29
 
Ah, my first 45 RPM....bought at Woolworth's for probaby 50 cents, if that much.

audiophelia
(Pennsylvania)
Posted: Nov 16, 2011 - 12:26
 
Some songs never get old! <3

allabout
(Perth Western Australia)
Posted: Oct 15, 2011 - 23:14
 
Hey, YOU are on the money. SanFranGayMan wrote:
If you don't get it now, then let's just be polite and say you weren't there then. Music is part context, part, music, part lyrics. As a participant of the time, these guys were exquisite poets who could say it better than anyone else. And this applies to most of the icons of that time. And who understands poets fer godssakes! Well, we did, at least our own poets. 
 



Pibailey
(Melbourne)
Posted: Sep 23, 2011 - 00:05
 
Or the song writing and production.

 winter wrote:

Can't find much to fault in the bass, drums, or vocals, either.
 



winter
(in exile, as always)
Posted: Sep 14, 2011 - 09:57
 
 johnjconn wrote:
In general, Cream had good guitars ( Clapton) but terrible lyrics (yellow tigers crouched in jungles)

Psychodelic hippie crap.
But good guitars.
 
Can't find much to fault in the bass, drums, or vocals, either.

winter
(in exile, as always)
Posted: Sep 14, 2011 - 09:56
 
 RedGuitar wrote:

I thought I was a fan of Clapton, but recently he's disappointing me - a lot.  Love the Crossroads Festival stuff, but the studio albums put me off.  So I revert to this stuff, where he was smokin' hot.
 
Exactly. Back in these days and even up through Derek & the Dominos, Clapton delivered some of the best guitar-playing out there. I'd still put him up at the top of the pantheon with Page and Hendrix for what he did then. 

But he's gone steadily downhill into easy-listening stuff. It's disappointing. 

johnjconn
(chicago land)
Posted: Sep 14, 2011 - 09:55
 
In general, Cream had good guitars ( Clapton) but terrible lyrics (yellow tigers crouched in jungles)

Psychodelic hippie crap.
But good guitars.

ckcotton
Posted: Sep 08, 2011 - 16:35
 
Is THAT FREEDOM ROCK DUDE?!!!!!
 

nagsheadlocal
(North Carolina, the new New Jersey)
Posted: Aug 08, 2011 - 07:45
 
 SanFranGayMan wrote:
If you don't get it now, then let's just be polite and say you weren't there then. Music is part context, part, music, part lyrics. As a participant of the time, these guys were exquisite poets who could say it better than anyone else. And this applies to most of the icons of that time. And who understands poets fer godssakes! Well, we did, at least our own poets. 
 
And it helps if you heard this for the first time on a Sears Silvertone radio tuned to WABC New York, which you could get in the rural South after dark. You'll never lose that connection.

martinc
(Ottawa Canada)
Posted: Jul 22, 2011 - 06:33
 
Released August 1968. Still have the vinyl in my collection

Proclivities
(Carrboro, NC)
Posted: Jul 22, 2011 - 06:27
 
 RedGuitar wrote:

I've always found Pete Brown's lyrics (he was a collaborator of Bruce's) to be "interesting" to say the least.
Or maybe they're just complete BS!  I play this song with my band and can never remember the correct words to each "chorus"!

 
No one else does either, so you could probably just make up anything. {#Whisper}



SanFranGayMan
(San Francisco)
Posted: Jul 07, 2011 - 23:00
 
If you don't get it now, then let's just be polite and say you weren't there then. Music is part context, part, music, part lyrics. As a participant of the time, these guys were exquisite poets who could say it better than anyone else. And this applies to most of the icons of that time. And who understands poets fer godssakes! Well, we did, at least our own poets. 

Byronape
(Snorkeling in the River Styx)
Posted: Jun 06, 2011 - 07:23
 
 alanthecowboy wrote:

I grew up listening to Bon Jovi, but really, is there any other kind of Bon Jovi?

 
Not that I've ever heard, but then again, I haven't willingly listened to a Bon Jovi song since 1998.


RedGuitar
(Iowa, USA)
Posted: Jun 06, 2011 - 07:23
 
 jam5ie76 wrote:
Not a fan of Clapton.

But this is a solid excellent.
 
I thought I was a fan of Clapton, but recently he's disappointing me - a lot.  Love the Crossroads Festival stuff, but the studio albums put me off.  So I revert to this stuff, where he was smokin' hot.


jam5ie76
Posted: May 11, 2011 - 09:04
 
Not a fan of Clapton.

But this is a solid excellent.

alanthecowboy
(Lakefield)
Posted: May 05, 2011 - 17:32
 
 Byronape wrote:
....trite Bon Jovi crap....
 
I grew up listening to Bon Jovi, but really, is there any other kind of Bon Jovi?


grungepuppy
(Flagstaff, AZ)
Posted: Mar 03, 2011 - 14:33
 
I just got a promotional email from MGM Grand in Vegas. They're giving away 2 tickets to the March 5th Eric Clapton show with Los Lobos, if you book 2 nights (March 4-6, any two in that range) at one of their properties. I just booked it. I've never seen either artist. Should be a good show. I hope they don't stick us too far in nose bleed, but the rates weren't bad, so a weekend in Vegas with free tickets to see some legendary artists is good for me.


RedGuitar
(Iowa, USA)
Posted: Feb 14, 2011 - 13:51
 
 nerakdon wrote:
Words are very meh, and not a good message.
 
I've always found Pete Brown's lyrics (he was a collaborator of Bruce's) to be "interesting" to say the least.
Or maybe they're just complete BS!  I play this song with my band and can never remember the correct words to each "chorus"!


vit
Posted: Feb 14, 2011 - 13:37
 
Man I was going batsh*t crazy listening to some endless funk on another station and decided to check RP to see if there was a mistake. This may be a staple from classic rock stations but (aside from the fact that it's good stuff anyway) man it's exactly what I needed. Thank you RP.

kayc
Posted: Jan 31, 2011 - 13:22
 
 Byronape wrote:
I first heard this song when I was half drunk in a bar back home.  I don't know how I missed it other then I was steeped in my brothers favorite music most of my life at that point and I had just had my fill of mindless hair metal and trite Bon Jovi crap at that point.  It was like someone hit me in the face with a street sign, suddenly an entire world opened up in front of me.  The pure talent shown in just this one song, only a few minutes long, tilted the axis of my world.
 
I hope it wasn't a big steel sign.



Byronape
(Purgatory)
Posted: Jan 14, 2011 - 07:24
 
I first heard this song when I was half drunk in a bar back home.  I don't know how I missed it other then I was steeped in my brothers favorite music most of my life at that point and I had just had my fill of mindless hair metal and trite Bon Jovi crap at that point.  It was like someone hit me in the face with a street sign, suddenly an entire world opened up in front of me.  The pure talent shown in just this one song, only a few minutes long, tilted the axis of my world.

cohifi
(Denver)
Posted: Nov 12, 2010 - 01:39
 
Ginger is much better than other drummers, imho!


1wolfy
(Mission Viejo California)
Posted: Oct 28, 2010 - 15:00
 
I had this 45 when I was a kid...wish I still did !

Cynaera
(South of Neanderthal)
Posted: Sep 09, 2010 - 14:46
 
Rating this at 8, but I have to say that I used to hear it every day on the local classic rock station, so I'm a bit tired of it.  Still, it's better than 90% of the stuff that usually gets played in this pit-scratch town where I live, so I'll take it. {#Mrgreen}  And what's not to like about Eric Clapton, Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker? {#Daisy} In spite of their internal bickering and power-plays, they were a great band.