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buddy
Posted: May 13, 2013 - 20:13
 

The girl just has it goin' on!

LowPhreak
(United Corporate States of Neo-Feudal Amurika, Inc.)
Posted: May 13, 2013 - 20:10
 

The whole album's good.

Grammarcop
(Part of the 47% who won't vote for Mitt Romney)
Posted: Nov 06, 2012 - 16:08
 

Interesting choice for election night.

TerryS
(Another SW)
Posted: Jul 03, 2012 - 19:47
 

Anybody who makes music for themselves has my respect.

Darbuka88
(Canada)
Posted: Jun 01, 2012 - 18:35
 

 oldsaxon wrote:

Sounds like you're not very keen on doing the work....just sort of, "Oh, God, starting over is too hard....nah, don't wanna do that" Instead of seeing the possibilities of a brave new world, all you see is a lot of hard work. 

In both the songs you quoted I see a possible, lovely, new world...but starting over isn't easy, and it would hurt, it usually does for a while. The final outcome is the goal...keep your eye on the goal and do the hard work. It will pay off. 

As for your question; "WTF does that mean?"...well...if it isn't plain then you need to  relearn your redin. rightin and rithmatic.

I hope you feel better soon, you seem kinda down today. 
 

Amen to that!

oldsaxon
(Wales via Vancouver, BC.)
Posted: Mar 30, 2012 - 12:55
 

 (former member) wrote:
Talkin bout a Revolution and this song are both about quitting and starting over. Instead of inspirational, it's discouraging and annyoing.

"Too much fighting, not enough understanding. Time to start all over." WTF does that mean?

I used to like her quite a bit, but not much anymore.

 
Sounds like you're not very keen on doing the work....just sort of, "Oh, God, starting over is too hard....nah, don't wanna do that" Instead of seeing the possibilities of a brave new world, all you see is a lot of hard work. 

In both the songs you quoted I see a possible, lovely, new world...but starting over isn't easy, and it would hurt, it usually does for a while. The final outcome is the goal...keep your eye on the goal and do the hard work. It will pay off. 

As for your question; "WTF does that mean?"...well...if it isn't plain then you need to  relearn your redin. rightin and rithmatic.

I hope you feel better soon, you seem kinda down today. 

socalhol
(Seattle)
Posted: Jul 21, 2011 - 17:02
 

I love the subtle use of Didgeridoo in this song

SmileOnADog
(Arizona)
Posted: Apr 17, 2011 - 20:27
 

 cohifi wrote:
Thanks for sharing.  It DOES take time:  jkhandy wrote:

It means that we 'humans' have F*^#ed up big time.  Look around you.  This system doesn't work and needs to be re-vamped.  Start all over is just that, start all over.  How can you not grasp that??  Discouraging??  Life can be at times.  It's only butterflies in rainbows in fairyland and maybe your mind.   
 

 

Maybe what she's trying to say is that we take way too much for granted, we let ourselves and each other get away with stuff that if we really thought about it, is just crazy and evil.  We're playing out the Easter Island saga on a planetary scale for example, and hardly anyone who has any political or practical (money) power stops to say "Hey, is this really such a great idea?"  Instead we all just sheeple along like its all just the most wonderful agenda anyone could come up with.

meadowwoods
(Madison environs)
Posted: Mar 17, 2011 - 09:09
 

This could be a good song for the protests in Madison.  It got MY attention!

cohifi
(Denver)
Posted: Feb 14, 2011 - 00:32
 

Thanks for sharing.  It DOES take time:  jkhandy wrote:

It means that we 'humans' have F*^#ed up big time.  Look around you.  This system doesn't work and needs to be re-vamped.  Start all over is just that, start all over.  How can you not grasp that??  Discouraging??  Life can be at times.  It's only butterflies in rainbows in fairyland and maybe your mind.   
 


jkhandy
(Near the ocean (in my mind))
Posted: Aug 07, 2010 - 23:55
 

 dmax wrote:
Talkin bout a Revolution and this song are both about quitting and starting over. Instead of inspirational, it's discouraging and annyoing.

"Too much fighting, not enough understanding. Time to start all over." WTF does that mean?

I used to like her quite a bit, but not much anymore.

 
It means that we 'humans' have F*^#ed up big time.  Look around you.  This system doesn't work and needs to be re-vamped.  Start all over is just that, start all over.  How can you not grasp that??  Discouraging??  Life can be at times.  It's only butterflies in rainbows in fairyland and maybe your mind.   



ddbz
(The Midwest)
Posted: Apr 02, 2010 - 21:21
 

Ummm... All I can say, without talking about the song itself, is this album, when it came out, reminds me of some of the best times in my life.... just a great album to put on and walk away from... before 'playlist'...

(former member)
Posted: Apr 02, 2010 - 21:19
 

Talkin bout a Revolution and this song are both about quitting and starting over. Instead of inspirational, it's discouraging and annyoing.

"Too much fighting, not enough understanding. Time to start all over." WTF does that mean?

I used to like her quite a bit, but not much anymore.


peter_james_bond
(The Burg)
Posted: Mar 02, 2010 - 18:29
 

 nate917 wrote:
1.  btilrn was quoting a different song, pedant.  Look it up.

2.  You also evidently don't know what an apologist is.  Look it up.

3.  Agreed, and you're still a pedant.  You need to spontaneously combust some more.
 
1. He may have been quoting from a different songbook but we're all singing the same tune here.   And the name is Peter.

2. I did look it up and I'm sorry, but I'm not an apologist!

3.  No thank you, once was quite enough.....I can still taste the smoke.  {#Flamed}

And I thought nate916 was argumentative....Sheesh!


nate917
(2,815 miles from home)
Posted: Feb 23, 2010 - 19:22
 

 peter_james_bond wrote:

1. Here are the lyrics:
Where does it say "another"?

2. That's debatable, just because she plays guitar and sings does not automatically make her a folk singer. Her albums definitely sound more pop/rock than folk to me. I'm not an apologist for her, just a fan defending her work from a mean spirited critic.

3. That's also debatable. I think she does, you think she doesn't. ....and life goes on....{#Wink}

 
1.  btilrn was quoting a different song, pedant.  Look it up.

2.  You also evidently don't know what an apologist is.  Look it up.

3.  Agreed, and you're still a pedant.  You need to spontaneously combust some more.


kretinburger
(Darwin Australia)
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 - 19:10
 

Really really really sorry sorry sorry that she started over.

I hope she doesnt start over any more.



ambrebalte
(Beijing)
Posted: Jan 29, 2010 - 19:07
 

 hcaudill wrote:
 Vogelfrei wrote:

I think you're missing something, which is easy to do when you paint with broad strokes. ... Notice the tools she chooses: "new symbols, new signs, new language."
 
Read "1984" if you don't think that "new symbols, new signs, new language" can be scary. The 20th century was replete with attempts to "start all over", all of them at unfathomable human cost. Who knows what was going through Tracy Chapman's mind - I'm sure she didn't mean this as a totalitarian fantasy - but nevertheless this gives me chills, and not in a good way.

 

hcaudill, I was looking for a way to write how the lyrics affect me, and there it is: you wrote it all. Thanks!

peter_james_bond
(The Burg)
Posted: Dec 29, 2009 - 09:08
 

 nate917 wrote:
1.  The original lyric is "another" folk singer.
2.  Yes, she is a folk singer, but it's perfectly fine for you to be her apologist if you want.
3.  She does not supply the world with good new tunes.
 
1. Here are the lyrics:

The whole world's broke and it ain't worth fixing
It's time to start all over, make a new beginning
There's too much pain, too much suffering
Let's resolve to start all over make a new beginning

Now don't get me wrong - I love life and living
But when you wake up and look around at everything that's going down -
All wrong
You see we need to change it now, this world with too few happy endings
We can resolve to start all over make a new beginning

Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over

The world is broken into fragments and pieces
That once were joined together in a unified whole
But now too many stand alone - There's too much separation
We can resolve to come together in the new beginning

Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over

We can break the cycle - We can break the chain
We can start all over - In the new beginning
We can learn, we can teach
We can share the myths the dream the prayer
The notion that we can do better
Change our lives and paths
Create a new world and

Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over

The whole world's broke and it ain't worth fixing
It's time to start all over, make a new beginning
There's too much fighting, too little understanding
It's time to stop and start all over
Make a new beginning

Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over

We need to make new symbols
Make new signs
Make a new language
With these we'll define the world

And start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over ...


Where does it say "another"?

2. That's debatable, just because she plays guitar and sings does not automatically make her a folk singer. Her albums definitely sound more pop/rock than folk to me. I'm not an apologist for her, just a fan defending her work from a mean spirited critic.

3. That's also debatable. I think she does, you think she doesn't. ....and life goes on....{#Wink}


nate917
(2,815 miles from home)
Posted: Dec 29, 2009 - 08:39
 

 peter_james_bond wrote:

But she's not new and she's not a folk singer....she's more of a pop singer who incorporates folk, rock, blues and other styles into her music. And hey, the world can always use a good new tune.

 
1.  The original lyric is "another" folk singer.
2.  Yes, she is a folk singer, but it's perfectly fine for you to be her apologist if you want.
3.  She does not supply the world with good new tunes.


Razz
(Denmark)
Posted: Nov 27, 2009 - 23:15
 

Maybe not a masterpiece lyrically speaking, but I like it's sound.

LowPhreak
(United States of Duplicitous Tools)
Posted: Oct 27, 2009 - 14:32
 

 MJMJ wrote:
Blech. She'd like to see the world burn, and she can kiss my butt for that.
 
I think your music interpretation skills are a bit lacking today. 

peter_james_bond
(Lunenburg, NS)
Posted: Oct 27, 2009 - 13:58
 

 btilrn wrote:
What the world needs now
is a new folk singer
like I need a hole
in my head. 
 
But she's not new and she's not a folk singer....she's more of a pop singer who incorporates folk, rock, blues and other styles into her music. And hey, the world can always use a good new tune.


spindrift
(Philadelphia PA)
Posted: Oct 27, 2009 - 13:35
 

 btilrn wrote:
What the world needs now
is a new folk singer
like I need a hole
in my head. 
 

You're so right. {#Rolleyes}

black321
(Bong Island - FL - CA - CO - WA - Bong Island)
Posted: Oct 27, 2009 - 13:33
 

Woops...not a bad song, but following the last three, this threw me off:

Tracy Chapman - New Beginning
Iron & Wine and Calexico - Burn That Broken Be
Johnny Cash - Hurt
Pink Floyd - Sheep



btilrn
(Redding, CA)
Posted: Sep 25, 2009 - 23:57
 

What the world needs now
is a new folk singer
like I need a hole
in my head. 

andersonbd1
Posted: Aug 25, 2009 - 11:54
 

 peter_james_bond wrote:
Of course she is right, we do need to start all over and redefine the world. The question is how??????
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_jerusalem


shutter
(You can't get here from there)
Posted: Aug 25, 2009 - 11:52
 

Good Lord, Tracy, how about practicing what you sing.  The repetition repetition repetition just doesn't cut it. The refrain is way overdone.


peter_james_bond
(Lunenburg, NS)
Posted: Aug 25, 2009 - 11:50
 

Of course she is right, we do need to start all over and redefine the world. The question is how??????

moonsaura
(Baltimore, Maryland)
Posted: Aug 25, 2009 - 11:48
 

love tracy chapman. muting is an option (for some). and so if cranking up my macbook pro.

jbunniii
(San Jose, CA)
Posted: Aug 25, 2009 - 11:48
 

Is that a Jew's harp I hear playing faintly in the background?  It's the only interesting part so far.

andersonbd1
Posted: Aug 25, 2009 - 11:48
 

 jagdriver wrote:

{...quickly tear headphones off...}

 
wish you could somehow program the channel to come back on when the song is over.  Now I have to keep checking back.  Wow - Tracy Chapman is horrible!


bieze
(Belgium)
Posted: Jun 23, 2009 - 03:47
 

Somebody having a bad lyrics day? Jeez

hcaudill
(Washington, DC)
Posted: May 22, 2009 - 09:58
 

 Vogelfrei wrote:

I think you're missing something, which is easy to do when you paint with broad strokes. ... Notice the tools she chooses: "new symbols, new signs, new language."
 
Read "1984" if you don't think that "new symbols, new signs, new language" can be scary. The 20th century was replete with attempts to "start all over", all of them at unfathomable human cost. Who knows what was going through Tracy Chapman's mind - I'm sure she didn't mean this as a totalitarian fantasy - but nevertheless this gives me chills, and not in a good way.


SweTex
(Swede living in Texas)
Posted: May 22, 2009 - 09:55
 

Makes me think of when that song with Destinys Child was popular.."Say my name"...and  they repeated that in the song about 5000 times...I woke up from a nap and yep there it was  on the stereo, my daughters loved it...I YELLED from the bed room "WILL SOMEBODY SAY HER FU**ING NAME SO SHE'LL SHUT UP"!!!!!! Ahhhh the memories....

MJMJ
Posted: Apr 20, 2009 - 18:16
 

Blech. She'd like to see the world burn, and she can kiss my butt for that.

jagdriver
(Tunin' in from the aptly-named Grass Valley, CA)
Posted: Dec 15, 2008 - 09:21
 

 flyboy wrote:
mute
 
{...quickly tear headphones off...}


Otomi
(La orilla de la civilización)
Posted: Oct 31, 2008 - 08:58
 

 flyboy wrote:

I'm sorry, I tend to assume that everyone else lives in the same techno-geek, sci-fi dork world that I do.  If you don't understand, please disregard.
 

I guess I missed something, living here on the edge of civilization.

flyboy
(Sarah Palin's Hometown)
Posted: Oct 13, 2008 - 14:50
 

 Otomi wrote:


Most of us find this song at least pretty good (that is, over 50% of the ratings fall within the 6-10 range), so we don't need to take Flyboy's hyperbole seriously.
 
I'm sorry, I tend to assume that everyone else lives in the same techno-geek, sci-fi dork world that I do.  If you don't understand, please disregard.



sub-arctic
(63°50' N)
Posted: Oct 13, 2008 - 04:37
 

 vit wrote:

If you're into that whole brevity thing.

 
El Duderino


Otomi
(La orilla de la civilización)
Posted: Sep 11, 2008 - 14:58
 

 flyboy wrote:
May this song never be played again.

So say we all.
 

Most of us find this song at least pretty good (that is, over 50% of the ratings fall within the 6-10 range), so we don't need to take Flyboy's hyperbole seriously.

flyboy
(Sarah Palin's Hometown)
Posted: Sep 11, 2008 - 14:05
 

May this song never be played again.

So say we all.

vit
Posted: Sep 11, 2008 - 14:04
 

Excelsior wrote:
Start all over.
Start all over.
Start all over.
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Start all over.
Start all over. The above was for the benefit of those who happened to be away when this song came on, and wanted to see what they missed.

for(i=1; i <100;i++) {
    print("Start all over.");
}
If you're into that whole brevity thing.


Excelsior
Posted: Sep 11, 2008 - 14:03
 

muted.

sqqqrly
(Baboosic Lake, NH)
Posted: Sep 11, 2008 - 14:01
 

flyboy wrote:
mute
another



Excelsior
Posted: Jul 10, 2008 - 08:31
 

Start all over.
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Start all over.

The above was for the benefit of those who happened to be away when this song came on, and wanted to see what they missed.
whtahtefcuk
(Flagstaff, AZ, USA)
Posted: May 08, 2008 - 09:50
 

I have always like Tracy! Good stuff.
flyboy
(Wasilla, AK)
Posted: May 08, 2008 - 09:49
 

mute
p2h2d2
Posted: Jan 03, 2008 - 12:19
 

cattgirl813 wrote:
I remember hearing her once say that she considered music to be her hobby. She went to school to explore a career in anthropology. What an amazing talent.


Can I chip in for a shovel?
sans
(Philly)
Posted: Jan 03, 2008 - 12:13
 

bokey wrote:
New Joan Armatrading was released on 4-16-07


It's stellar.
bodhi
Posted: Dec 03, 2007 - 02:52
 

What a load of endless whinge from millionairess Tracy Chapman