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| websbestcomics | Posted: Dec 20, 2007 - 18:08 palexis wrote: How come songs like that from the Stones never make it on "Best of " compilations?
Everyone here is forgetting that unlike the legendary bands such as The Beatles or Doors, The Stones are still active and making new music (whether you like it or not). My point is that it's difficult to determine if the newer material will stand on it's own in 30 or 40 years. It's also difficult to view The Stones careers objectively because we don't have that luxury of hindsight yet. I suspect that in 15 years, when The Rolling Stones will have obviously retired and likely will be dead, some of these cynical 'age-ism' perceptions might seem less relevant in comparison to their entire body of work. They are still quite creative, and most of their recent material, IMO, is not contrived at all, but genuine attempts to produce meaningful sounds. Whether you agree with that or not doesn't matter; what matters is that these guys still think the work is important and clearly are physically capable of producing it at the same level of energy and enthusiasm. I don't think any of their post-Steel Wheels material was 'phoned-in'. Love it or hate it, but why be so cynical about it? Remember, Mick and Keith haven't needed to record since at least 1989, since the Steel Wheels tour set them all into kazillionaire status. The other band members don't even make much money from album sales. It's the tours that rakes in the real money for all of them, and they could easily have toured for the last 20 years as a greatest hits package. But they didn't. Honestly, the people that think the Stones are ridiculous are just unable to tear themselves away from the music they made earlier on. It's almost 2008, get over the 60's and 70's, please. The Stones have. |
| keller1 (Taco Bell is a phone company in Mexico) | Posted: May 13, 2007 - 16:58 An underrated country band, in my view. |
| Barman (Milan, Italy) | Posted: Apr 28, 2007 - 02:52 sutcliff wrote: just stop it
Take a walk. |
| laprincessa | Posted: Mar 27, 2007 - 12:47 I watched Gimme Shelter last night - what an interesting bit of time captured on film. If you haven't seen it, see it for the documentary aspects rather than just seeing the Stones perform. If you're expecting to JUST see the Stones perform, you'll be disappointed. Great flick - I was actually so interested in the whole Altamont deal that I watched it again with the commentary on and learned a heap about the tragedy. |
| sutcliff (Saint Louis) | Posted: Mar 11, 2007 - 22:46 just stop it |
| lester | Posted: Feb 24, 2007 - 08:20 lester wrote: Regarding the notion that they're has-beens, it seems that if you're not creating meaningful new music you belong on the scrap heap. For example, Ray Charles isn't putting out anything these days. Let's lose him. And Mozart . . . dump him. While we're at it, Charles Dickens's publisher hasn't seen any new manuscripts in years.
etwilson wrote: Well, but the Stones aren't actually dead yet so they could potentially record a decent record again. They just don't seem to care enough to try to. |
| marmelock (Frankfurt, Home of the EAGLES!) | Posted: Jan 25, 2007 - 02:45 Stripped is the best Stones record since 'Some Girls'. After 'Stripped' they only released meaningless mainstream stuff, ain't I right? |
| On_The_Beach (Vancouver, Canada) | Posted: Jan 10, 2007 - 12:16 Never too old to Rock & Roll! |
| Viv515 (Calgary, Alberta) | Posted: Jan 10, 2007 - 12:12 skyguy wrote: Stones are best doing blues and alt. Country. T
They can "send me dead flowers" any time!  |
| madaxeman (Scottish west coast) | Posted: Jan 10, 2007 - 12:10 This isn't crap,it just sounds that way after following Alison Krauss and Union Station. |
| SpaceCase (Lancaster, PA, USA) | Posted: Jan 10, 2007 - 12:10 OldFrenchie wrote: Aren't these guys dead yet?
Aren't we all dead???? This tune is excellent.... "Got to scrape that shit right off your shoe" I just love that line!! |
| OldFrenchie | Posted: Dec 26, 2006 - 23:32 Aren't these guys dead yet? |
| agnes (the land of bourbon and horses) | Posted: Dec 26, 2006 - 23:28 This is one of my absolute favorite Stones songs, but for some reason, I REALLY like the we're-drunk-as-eighteen-f*cks-with-all-our-buddies-in-a-studio version from Exile. Not that this isn't great, but it's a little like hearing someone who can actually sing cover Dylan. Something's off. |
| skyguy (CO) | Posted: Dec 12, 2006 - 10:50 Stones are best doing blues and alt. Country. They have a huge catalouge- of course there are going to be duds. Exile is the best of the blues. love that raw production. They must be doing something right, have you seen the chicks mick hangs with ?! |
| etwilson (Murrysville, PA) | Posted: Dec 12, 2006 - 10:49 lester wrote: Regarding the notion that they're has-beens, it seems that if you're not creating meaningful new music you belong on the scrap heap. For example, Ray Charles isn't putting out anything these days. Let's lose him. And Mozart . . . dump him. While we're at it, Charles Dickens's publisher hasn't seen any new manuscripts in years.
/quote> Well, but the Stones aren't actually dead yet so they could potentially record a decent record again. They just don't seem to care enough to try to. |
| Walrus_Gumbo | Posted: Dec 12, 2006 - 10:49 emeraldrose63 wrote: I would love seeing the "rock Legends" in concert sometime... Don't know.. I better hurry up and do that..
 They still put the young wanna-be's to shame and show them how it's done. You gotta make the effort to see them live!!! You won't regret it!!! |
| emeraldrose63 | Posted: Nov 27, 2006 - 20:20 I would love seeing the "rock Legends" in concert sometime... Don't know.. I better hurry up and do that.. |
| Mari (île de lesvos) | Posted: Nov 13, 2006 - 05:30 slowhand wrote: Respect your "rock" elders. They helped forge the path for everyone today. Everyone today? Hey, that's me!  Right on! |
| slowhand (South!!!!!!!!!!) | Posted: Sep 30, 2006 - 07:05 Respect your "rock" elders. They helped forge the path for everyone today. |
| teknomike (Mexico City, Mexico) | Posted: Sep 15, 2006 - 15:25 Ahh, somebody beat me to it. Something about scraping ... Great tune, love to perform it, from a band I've been listening too for far too long. Haven't bought anything new since black and Blue, but still enjoy listening. |
| WonderLizard (2,755.46 mi. due east of Paradise) | Posted: Sep 15, 2006 - 15:25 wondertoofar wrote: The Stones have been doing nothing but living off their name since 1974 for people who don't have the creativity to look on their own for new talent to listen to.
They have gradually slipped from irrelevant to mundane to being embarassed for them to now pathetic! And the tours keep coming like flies to sh**. Pleas not more Rattling Bones and the Steel Wheelchair tours! Boys it's time to lay down now. In all others ways you're already dead but I guess as long as the robots keep shuffling their money your way it'll never stop! Next the taxedermist will be stuffing them and sending them out on tour with a sountrack and it will still be one of the years top grossing tours at least that one would be more honest. Madona still does well too. Probably the same people go. Well, sorry, I'm not ready to write them off just yet, tho' I was largely disappointed with The Bigger Bang, like most of their studio stuff of the last decade. But they can still bring it live. Downright scary sometimes. This cut's proof. |
| dogdokken (los angeles, ca) | Posted: Sep 15, 2006 - 15:22 wondertoofar is correct. We should simply shoot or perhaps place in internment camps anyone over the age of 45 (Age of Mick Jagger during start of Steel Wheelchair tour). Yea Stones stink, I like Arctic Monkeys, but next year I will like the next big hyped thing. |
| Odyzzeuz (Austin, Texas) | Posted: Sep 15, 2006 - 15:21 wondertoofar wrote: The Stones have been doing nothing but living off their name since 1974 for people who don't have the creativity to look on their own for new talent to listen to.
They have gradually slipped from irrelevant to mundane to being embarassed for them to now pathetic! And the tours keep coming like flies to sh**. Pleas not more Rattling Bones and the Steel Wheelchair tours! Boys it's time to lay down now. In all others ways you're already dead but I guess as long as the robots keep shuffling their money your way it'll never stop! Next the taxedermist will be stuffing them and sending them out on tour with a sountrack and it will still be one of the years top grossing tours at least that one would be more honest. Madona still does well too. Probably the same people go. Off your meds again I see. |
| Rickster (Peoples Republic of Boulder, Colorado) | Posted: Aug 17, 2006 - 10:16 wondertoofar wrote: The Stones have been doing nothing but living off their name since 1974 for people who don't have the creativity to look on their own for new talent to listen to.
They have gradually slipped from irrelevant to mundane to being embarassed for them to now pathetic! And the tours keep coming like flies to sh**. Pleas not more Rattling Bones and the Steel Wheelchair tours! Boys it's time to lay down now. In all others ways you're already dead but I guess as long as the robots keep shuffling their money your way it'll never stop! Next the taxedermist will be stuffing them and sending them out on tour with a sountrack and it will still be one of the years top grossing tours at least that one would be more honest. Madona still does well too. Probably the same people go. I've been thinking the same for years - but have been amazed at the following. I guess I shouldn't be surprised because there are still folks who are stuck dressing in clothes from a past era as well. They love their polo shirts and white tennis shoes... I, personally, wouldn't miss hearing the Stones ever again because it was totally overplayed in the past 2 or three decades. |
| Thistle (Peg City) | Posted: Aug 17, 2006 - 10:12 This whole album is awesome... it has the greatest version of Wild Horses |
| ScottN (at , or watching, a stadium near you.) | Posted: Apr 07, 2006 - 20:34 wondertoofar wrote: The Stones have been doing nothing but living off their name since 1974 for people who don't have the creativity to look on their own for new talent to listen to.
They have gradually slipped from irrelevant to mundane to being embarassed for them to now pathetic! And the tours keep coming like flies to sh**. Pleas not more Rattling Bones and the Steel Wheelchair tours! Boys it's time to lay down now. In all others ways you're already dead but I guess as long as the robots keep shuffling their money your way it'll never stop! Next the taxedermist will be stuffing them and sending them out on tour with a sountrack and it will still be one of the years top grossing tours at least that one would be more honest. Madona still does well too. Probably the same people go. Have you seen a show on the current tour? Hardly dinosaurs; they play with great energy.. There is a reason they fill stadiums at big bucks... it's an amazing performance. |
| wondertoofar (There and back again) | Posted: Mar 24, 2006 - 04:18 The Stones have been doing nothing but living off their name since 1974 for people who don't have the creativity to look on their own for new talent to listen to. They have gradually slipped from irrelevant to mundane to being embarassed for them to now pathetic! And the tours keep coming like flies to sh**. Pleas not more Rattling Bones and the Steel Wheelchair tours! Boys it's time to lay down now. In all others ways you're already dead but I guess as long as the robots keep shuffling their money your way it'll never stop! Next the taxedermist will be stuffing them and sending them out on tour with a sountrack and it will still be one of the years top grossing tours at least that one would be more honest. Madona still does well too. Probably the same people go. |
| pigglywiggly (mid-America) | Posted: Mar 09, 2006 - 09:52 melissa wrote: oh yeah! got to scrape that sh#t right off yer shooOOOOes!
love it Yes i got the desert in my toenail |
| Smutty (Calgary, AB Canada) | Posted: Mar 09, 2006 - 09:52 Wonderful sound... |
| nick_valensi (Charlotte, NC) | Posted: Mar 09, 2006 - 09:51 10! 10! 10! |
| hippiechick | Posted: Mar 09, 2006 - 09:50 This is when the RS knew how to make music. Not the garbage they've put out lately. |
| loungelizard48 (North Vancouver, Canada) | Posted: Jan 09, 2006 - 18:51 kazuma wrote: Case in point: Hey Negrita. One of the best they did! |
| loungelizard48 (North Vancouver, Canada) | Posted: Jan 09, 2006 - 18:49 These dudes will ALWAYS get a ten from me...I would vote for them to be at the top of the list in the Hall of Fame for rock 'n roll. The way they present the blues always sends a shiver up my spine.  |
| kazuma (Austin, TX) | Posted: Dec 11, 2005 - 18:57 Lazy8 wrote: Black & Blue was Ron Woods' first album with the band, and he absolutely smoked.
Case in point: Hey Negrita. |
| kazuma (Austin, TX) | Posted: Dec 11, 2005 - 18:55 Pretty faithful rendition. |
| PattonFever (wherever i go, there i am.) | Posted: Nov 12, 2005 - 12:09 i heart the rolling stones. |
| bmo (Canada) | Posted: Nov 12, 2005 - 12:08 cartoon rock |
| pyxxel (Dublin, Ireland) | Posted: Aug 01, 2005 - 06:04 "It's the Stones, Jim, but not as we know it" Not their strongest song by a far cry, IMHO.  |
| lester | Posted: Jul 02, 2005 - 20:14 Regarding the notion that they're has-beens, it seems that if you're not creating meaningful new music you belong on the scrap heap. For example, Ray Charles isn't putting out anything these days. Let's lose him. And Mozart . . . dump him. While we're at it, Charles Dickens's publisher hasn't seen any new manuscripts in years. But maybe these kids are just saying the Stones should have thereafter been prohibited from performing or recording. Whatever. |
| melissa (my cave) | Posted: Jun 03, 2005 - 08:45 oh yeah! got to scrape that sh#t right off yer shooOOOOes! love it |
| Ender43 | Posted: Apr 20, 2005 - 10:11 I'm 25, and thankful that I've seen them live at least once. Believe me, it was a good show, with a lot of energy. |
| Mugro (Lane Village, Massachusetts) | Posted: Apr 20, 2005 - 10:11 Exile on Main Street was a great album that was perhaps overlooked by most people on the Classic Rock track. I think there was only one "hit" on the album, but there were a lot of great tunes on the album like this one! |
| Johray63 (The Lowlands) | Posted: Jan 22, 2005 - 02:11 Lazy8 wrote: You're passing up some great music. You're not alone in that, most people (even some Stone's fans) overlooked Black and Blue (1976) and Some Girls (1978). These records had their faults (bandwagon-jumping mostly, reggae in the case of Black & Blue and disco in the case of Some Girls) but there's some awesome music in there. Black & Blue was Ron Woods' first album with the band, and he absolutely smoked. Some Girls was written on or about the time Mick Jagger's wife left him, and his troubles provoked some fine songwriting. Since then they've kinda coasted, but there was still a little steam in the boiler after '72. Well, it's true that with their immense status they could've start living off the success after the early seventies. But fortunately they were challenged again by Disco and Punk in the late seventies. Already then they were called dinosaurs
Since then updating their sound a bit by choosing the right producers and studios seemed enough. Music wise that is, but that's all that matters in the end. Conforming to their age and experience they're in many respects a lot more well balanced and professional then they ever were, which (in their case) doesn't neccesarily mean more exciting and dynamic! Obviously that generation of musicians is very tough and hard to beat. For instance their last tour was still more intensive than U2's (who's members could be their sons). |
| Lazy8 (the Gallatin valley of Montana) | Posted: Jan 07, 2005 - 08:21 stevebeaver wrote: If you ask me, and nobody has, the Stones haven't made relevant new music since 1972. They've been a cover band (granted, of themselves) since then.
You're passing up some great music. You're not alone in that, most people (even some Stone's fans) overlooked Black and Blue (1976) and Some Girls (1978). These records had their faults (bandwagon-jumping mostly, reggae in the case of Black & Blue and disco in the case of Some Girls) but there's some awesome music in there. Black & Blue was Ron Woods' first album with the band, and he absolutely smoked. Some Girls was written on or about the time Mick Jagger's wife left him, and his troubles provoked some fine songwriting. Since then they've kinda coasted, but there was still a little steam in the boiler after '72. |
| Danny_G (Lima) | Posted: Jan 07, 2005 - 08:16 "thanks four your wine"  |
| Daveinbawlmer (Bawlmer, Merlin. Hon.) | Posted: Jan 07, 2005 - 08:14 I think the Stones would prolly be first to admit they are more enteratainers than artists these days. But then again you never know, they could make some "sittin on a bar stool chicago blues" record some day and peeps will be worshipping them all over again. Give 'em another 10 years and we'll see what happens. Thats the blues tradition of Muddy Waters, etc. |
| dkwalika | Posted: Jan 07, 2005 - 08:11 Drop your reds. Drop your greens and blues. Shit yes! |
| ScopArch (Go Green / Stop Red) | Posted: Nov 09, 2004 - 05:12 Wait a minute. Can you say "shit" on the radio? :-k |
| Gregorama (Austin, TX) | Posted: Oct 25, 2004 - 10:35 Xeric wrote: The Stones. Ho-hum. Don't dislike 'em--never have. But never have seen exactly what all the fuss is about, either. . . .
There was a time before they existed. It was pretty dull as I recall. I can't think of any other MerseyBeat era bands that can still sell out arenas. I wonder how much stuff, from '72 and before, that they still have stashed in the can, unreleased. Probably even some good stuff from those glory days that has never been aired. Maybe some of us fogies like us because they were innovative and moved the music from point a to point b, and did it well. You can hardly beat them for being prolific. |
| ChardRemains (Pepperland) | Posted: Oct 25, 2004 - 10:28 Kurt_from_La_Qui wrote: ....all my favorite stones tune are the ones you hardly hear... except here on paradise! I am so with you on that brother. I would love to have cranked this; nice version. |