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govna
(beantown)
Posted: Apr 30, 2013 - 06:10
 
my god...almost twenty years ago.  still love it.

sbegf
(Manchester, Maryland)
Posted: Feb 26, 2013 - 16:51
 
 cosmiclint wrote:
This is a great song to strum late at night in people's living rooms. And the placenta line sure gets their attention if they haven't heard it before :)
 
I am in no way a musician...I listen...but really...placenta?  Is it really called that? 


ottojschlosser
(Beaverton OR (no, really, that's its name))
Posted: Feb 26, 2013 - 16:51
 
Like a rolling thunder chasing the wind...
Like a rock song cliche' comin' again... 

cosmiclint
(romeotuma's hotel room)
Posted: Jan 26, 2013 - 09:27
 
This is a great song to strum late at night in people's living rooms. And the placenta line sure gets their attention if they haven't heard it before :)

hayduke2
(Southampton, NY)
Posted: Jan 26, 2013 - 09:26
 
great driving song, I crank it way upp
Thanks!! 

teapot
(in orbit)
Posted: Jan 26, 2013 - 09:23
 
Always loved the production on this one.

jocelynsart
Posted: Jan 26, 2013 - 09:23
 
One of my most favourite songs - I tend to love moody or dramatic music

rdo
(DC)
Posted: Jul 07, 2012 - 10:23
 
 Proclivities wrote:

"Art" is not "by definition, artifice".  The former word is not derived from the latter; the Latin word "ars" (skill) is the source for both words.  Pretentiousness is certainly a valid (albeit over-used) criticism for creative endeavors since art is not intrinsically pretentious.

pretentious:
1. Claiming or demanding a position of distinction or merit, especially when unjustified.
2. Making or marked by an extravagant outward show; ostentatious.



When a critic calls a performer pretentious, I think they mean the performer has "artistic pretentions", mainly.  Artisans, the forerunners of artists, worked with their hands, and that is where the modern word art comes from. Pretension had nothing especially to do with it. But now the word art certainly has the connotation of pretentiousness. Take the plastic arts (sculpture, painting, etc..), or what we usually mean when we use the word "art" by itself. Contemporary plastic art is intrinsically and self-consciously pretentious. Go to any museum of contemporary art, you'll see what I mean (I am not talking about the many lesser-known artists who are not a part of all that). Poetry has become the same. All this is because there is no longer the “vulgar” public “consuming” those art forms. This “vulgar” public, thank god, is  still the final arbiter of music, film, and fiction - the three creative art forms that are actually still alive. I kinda like the term "Art Rock" (often intended as a diss) because it means the performer is primarily concerned with the music, as opposed to the life-style aspects of Rock. I, for one, want Radiohead and similar performers to be appreciated by all and sundry (i.e., the “masses”). I think if they all just pay a little more attention, they’ll see what I do in their music. It’s not for everyone of course. I want good performers to be recognized as true artists, but yes, without the pretense.

merkin_muffley
(Down the rabbit hole.....)
Posted: Jul 07, 2012 - 09:00
 
Brilliant song never thought I would hear it on RP thank you Bill.
Good album as well.

Groogrux69
(Auburn, CA)
Posted: Jun 05, 2012 - 14:52
 
Outstanding!

tomatoslayer
(movin' and shakin')
Posted: Mar 02, 2012 - 11:39
 
 chitown wrote:
Quite possibly the worst song I've heard on RP.  Don't get it.
 
They've got to let you out of that cage once in a while.  Bill - you got any Lionel Richie to cheer this guy up?

chitown
(Havana Daydreamin')
Posted: Mar 02, 2012 - 11:35
 
Quite possibly the worst song I've heard on RP.  Don't get it.

aspicer
(Chicago, IL)
Posted: Jan 30, 2012 - 19:20
 
They KICK ASS live (no pun intended really!).  By far their best album was their first - I highly recommend you pick it up if you like them at all...called "Mental Jewlery" - incredible record!

HazzeSwede
(Vinyl Land)
Posted: Dec 30, 2011 - 00:50
 
Just the song title make's this a nine !

Byronape
("post-capitalist wreckageville")
Posted: Dec 30, 2011 - 00:49
 
Oh yes... back in the hazy days of High School.  Staying the night with my friend, a little {#Devil_pimp}, talking about girls, and jamming out to some Live (and many other great 90's bands)...  I miss those days sometimes. 


unclehud
(300 feet above the planet)
Posted: Nov 28, 2011 - 07:28
 
 htowncoog wrote:
Say what you will, but these guys are great "live." 

Amen, brother.  Seen them twice, so I get to say it twice: they were great in person, on stage.

kingart
(Brooklyn NY)
Posted: Aug 25, 2011 - 15:48
 
At least on some radio stations here in NYC, this seemed to have been deemed the unofficial 'theme song' of the Oklahoma City bombing. I kind of like the song—a dirge, kind of ominous though hopeful—but in my mind it is linked strongly to that low moment in American history. 

RobMartin
(CA)
Posted: Aug 25, 2011 - 15:47
 
 teadye wrote:
I'm LMAO... just thought about the lyrics in another way: "rolling thunder chasing the wind. I can feel it!" Morning after the big bowl of chili.... 8^)
 
Wow, just what are you birthing there? {#Roflol}
This song still rocks! {#Dancingbanana_2}

errantpenny
Posted: Jul 25, 2011 - 06:53
 
My first 3 rating goes to this song. I have disliked this band since first hearing—and especially disliked this song. It's a visceral reaction that's hard to articulate, but here goes. It just seems one of the worst examples of 90's self-important "alt-rock" that wasn't raw or interesting enough to be alternative or robust enough to be rock—or fun enough to be either. "Neither fish nor fowl nor good red herring" — Madeleine L'Engle, A Wrinkle in Time

Mostly, it just bores me.

eruwenolorien
(SC)
Posted: Jul 25, 2011 - 06:43
 
My little sister used to sing, "like a roller wonder juicing the wind" when this came on the radio (she was 6 when this song released).  I can't listen to this tune without hearing her!

ENIGmAttIC
Posted: Jul 25, 2011 - 06:39
 
haven't heard this song in a long long time... but i still call it the song that converted me into a listener with good tast... {#Smile} This album is - from my point of view - one of the best ever made. nothing compared to all the shit they released later on... these were the good old live-days!!! brilliant! simply brilliant!


fredriley
(Nottingham, UK)
Posted: May 23, 2011 - 02:24
 
Interesting CD cover, shame about the dull song. Sort of like Pearl Jam, but less interesting. Inoffensive and unnoticeable, other than when he goes into an anguished I'm-trying-to-squeeze-a-log-out scream. Next song, please.

toterola
(Further)
Posted: Apr 21, 2011 - 13:10
 


{#Roflol}{#Ass}{#Beat}

teadye wrote:
I'm LMAO... just thought about the lyrics in another way: "rolling thunder chasing the wind. I can feel it!" Morning after the big bowl of chili.... 8^)
 



teadye
(St. Petersburg, FL)
Posted: Apr 21, 2011 - 13:03
 
I'm LMAO... just thought about the lyrics in another way: "rolling thunder chasing the wind. I can feel it!" Morning after the big bowl of chili.... 8^)

MissAmy
(Austin, TX)
Posted: Apr 21, 2011 - 12:59
 
This takes me back a loooong way!

htowncoog
(Texas)
Posted: Jan 17, 2011 - 10:27
 
Say what you will, but these guys are great "live." 

And it's an 8+

pepsiparanoia
(Japan)
Posted: Dec 17, 2010 - 00:37
 
Wow, that takes me back a few years. Can't decide if I like it now though.

Proclivities
(Carrboro, NC)
Posted: Nov 15, 2010 - 07:38
 
 ziggytrix wrote:

How about ostentatious, bombastic, and overproduced, then?

Mind you, I can go for that sort of thing when the mood strikes me.  This one is quite fun to sing along as loud as you can while driving down the highway.

I mean, I don't see why "pretentiousness" is even construed as a valid criticism for an artistic expression.  Art is, by definition, artifice.  And it's the really good art that inspires emotional response in a listener/viewer/reader who would otherwise not be feeling such emotion, right?

 
"Art" is not "by definition, artifice".  The former word is not derived from the latter; the Latin word "ars" (skill) is the source for both words.  Pretentiousness is certainly a valid (albeit over-used) criticism for creative endeavors since art is not intrinsically pretentious.

pretentious:
1. Claiming or demanding a position of distinction or merit, especially when unjustified.
2. Making or marked by an extravagant outward show; ostentatious.







RedGuitar
(Iowa, USA)
Posted: Nov 15, 2010 - 07:11
 
 gandalfbmg wrote:Anyone else remember a show called "Strange Luck" with DB Sweeney on Fox (back in the early 90's, on with the X-Files)? If you remember the show, you'll know why this song made me think of that show. And somebody earlier was right about these guys in concert. One of the best shows I've been to.

 Cynaera wrote:

Oh, I DO!  I DO!  That was one of the weirdest shows evah.  It epitomized the expression, "Inexplicable confluence of events."  Dang, I loved it.  And that was the first time I'd ever heard this song, too.  Hmmm - wonder if Strange Luck is on DVD?
 

That was one of the best uses of music in film that I can recall.  I was just enthralled with that segment (and the show in general)!



ick
(S.E. La Jolla)
Posted: Nov 15, 2010 - 07:10
 
Lighten up Kowalcyzk!


ziggytrix
(Dallas, TX)
Posted: Oct 14, 2010 - 15:41
 
 DoktorC wrote:

is an overused, nonsensical, and trite expression.   {#Beat}      Please try harder next time.  
 
How about ostentatious, bombastic, and overproduced, then?

Mind you, I can go for that sort of thing when the mood strikes me.  This one is quite fun to sing along as loud as you can while driving down the highway.

I mean, I don't see why "pretentiousness" is even construed as a valid criticism for an artistic expression.  Art is, by definition, artifice.  And it's the really good art that inspires emotional response in a listener/viewer/reader who would otherwise not be feeling such emotion, right?


Cynaera
(South of Neanderthal)
Posted: Oct 14, 2010 - 15:10
 
 gandalfbmg wrote:
Anyone else remember a show called "Strange Luck" with DB Sweeney on Fox (back in the early 90's, on with the X-Files)? If you remember the show, you'll know why this song made me think of that show. And somebody earlier was right about these guys in concert. One of the best shows I've been to.
 
Oh, I DO!  I DO!  That was one of the weirdest shows evah.  It epitomized the expression, "Inexplicable confluence of events."  Dang, I loved it.  And that was the first time I'd ever heard this song, too.  Hmmm - wonder if Strange Luck is on DVD?



Giselle62
(many bear, big rock, estuary California)
Posted: Oct 14, 2010 - 15:01
 
wow, they use the word "placenta"—-that IS something!

beelzebubba
(Where the hell is Walldrug, South Dakota?)
Posted: Oct 14, 2010 - 15:01
 
Could never get into this. Don't hate it, just can't get into it.

mbriner
(So Cal)
Posted: Oct 14, 2010 - 14:58
 
Awesome song and album...

sziggle
Posted: Sep 12, 2010 - 20:19
 
eddie k's best

Bazooka
(Honolulu, HI USA)
Posted: Aug 11, 2010 - 19:34
 
I admit..I turned it up alittle {#Shhh}

Frater_Kork
(Uppsala, Sweden)
Posted: Jun 09, 2010 - 01:50
 
Ovary STRIPE!

DoktorC
Posted: Apr 06, 2010 - 15:29
 
 Marley wrote:
Pretentious crap
 
is an overused, nonsensical, and trite expression.   {#Beat}      Please try harder next time.  

_Bruce_
(Santa Barbara, Ca)
Posted: Apr 06, 2010 - 15:25
 
 Dave__Janet wrote:
Placenta!   Placenta!  PLACENTA!

 
...and then there is "The Evils of Placenta Hustling" by the Bloodhound Gang.


Dave__Janet
Posted: Apr 06, 2010 - 15:23
 
Placenta!   Placenta!  PLACENTA!


ptooey
Posted: Apr 06, 2010 - 15:19
 
It hardly ever gets mentioned for some reason, but this dude can really pound the skins. 

lemmoth
(NYC)
Posted: Apr 06, 2010 - 15:18
 
Live is a great live band, but then again I guess they would have to be.

I've seen Ed and the boys up close and personal about 1/2 dozen times.  Great show, real passion.

Stefen
(West Hollywood, CA)
Posted: Apr 06, 2010 - 15:16
 
Interesting sound.

Marley
(Portland, Or)
Posted: Apr 06, 2010 - 15:16
 
Pretentious crap

kaybee
(Lost in the Wilds of Toronto)
Posted: Feb 02, 2010 - 14:40
 
Unlike the guy who sings for the Veils, I don't think I'll ever be in the mood to listen to this singer's voice. {#Headache}  (And it has nothing to do with the word "placenta"!)


Danimal174
(Upstate South Carolina)
Posted: Feb 02, 2010 - 12:37
 
Not my favorite song by them, but a very good one, nonetheless. How about some "T.B.D." by them?

thediceareloaded
(Berlin, Germany)
Posted: Feb 02, 2010 - 12:30
 
they have cheesy, overreligious lyrics. They don't evolve in their albums, they always sound the same. 

But still, I love to hear their music.... 

stachrom
(switzerland)
Posted: Jan 02, 2010 - 01:54
 
Outstanding! 

:-) 

moon13
Posted: Dec 01, 2009 - 19:46
 
outstanding album