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jhannescool
Posted: Feb 09, 2013 - 11:56
 
 lily34 wrote:
i love genesis. i dislike this song very much.

 
SWAK!
Blackdragon
(Kiel (Germany))
Posted: Oct 13, 2012 - 06:17
 
What a GREAT Song, love this!

mikec09
(Saugerties, NY - a top 10 coolest small town in America)
Posted: Oct 13, 2012 - 06:15
 
What a horrible, annoying song!

suesblues
(Sydney, Australia)
Posted: Oct 13, 2012 - 06:12
 
they should have left this as an instrumental.  I've never heard this before, but before he started singing, this sounded so powerful, really evocative of a large epic stage production, mechanical and atmospheric, full of steam and darkness.  The singing wrecked it, IMHO

kcar
Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 16:59
 
 fatcatjb wrote:
Love Genesis

Deeply admire Peter Gabriel

Suspicious of Phil Collins

Loathe this weird song

As always, thank you Mr. Riley for the Nottingham Jury's perspective 
 
Mostly agree although some of Genesis' more pop-oriented works—which seem to have Collins definitely leading the band—aren't bad. I came to like "Invisible Touch" for instance, esp. "Land of Confusion." The video with the Spitting Image puppets was a lot of fun, and the cover by Katzenjammer was great. 

Some of the pop hits that I've hated back in the day weren't that bad. It was all the relentless hype and excessive number of plays that got to me.  

DD rabbi_phil
(beach)
Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 16:57
 
 haljordan wrote:
Anyone else remember that episode of Magnum P.I. where they used this as the background music when Thomas was closing in on a serial killer?

More of the useless crap that's rattling around in my head.
 

I'm thinkin Miami Vice.......you know it's 2 a.m...... crocketts driving the black daytona,all brooding and self absorbed...Tubbs is sittin there starin' straight ahead after stuffing shells into the sawed-off......this is playin strong in the background.. intermittent flashbacks to their ex-cop buddy who just took 2 to the ticker......they're blasting thru the deserted streets of cocaine infested 80's Miami.....they're gonna Get those bad guys!!!

lily34
(lexvegas)
Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 16:55
 
i love genesis. i dislike this song very much.

westslope
(BC coast)
Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 16:54
 
 Poacher wrote:
I have just rated something from Phil Collins an 8. . . I now feel dirty and confused.  
 
Me too!  A strong 8.  One of the best ex-Peter Genesis numbers.  I found the rating experience rather exhilarating.  Positively 'liberating'.  In light of some of the vehement commentary on this thread......  

Stranglersfan
(Revelstoke, B.C.)
Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 16:51
 
I Love all the Gabriel Genesis albums, and I feel opposite about Collins Genesis.

scraig
(Santa Barbara, CA)
Posted: Sep 11, 2012 - 16:50
 
This song was used during one of the best episodes of "Magnum PI."

fatcatjb
(Sunny Sacramento)
Posted: Jul 10, 2012 - 19:20
 
Love Genesis

Deeply admire Peter Gabriel

Suspicious of Phil Collins

Loathe this weird song

As always, thank you Mr. Riley for the Nottingham Jury's perspective 

LuvWilloughby
(Westmore,VT)
Posted: Jul 10, 2012 - 18:58
 
Awe don't. Back in the day he/they ruled... there live shows were awesome. The band was tight with Lee Sklar on bass and Darryl Strummer on guitar and Chester Thompson on drums (except on "in the air tonight" 

 Poacher wrote:
I have just rated something from Phil Collins an 8. . . I now feel dirty and confused.  
 



fortheloveofpete
Posted: Jul 10, 2012 - 18:48
 
The lowest of the post-Pete period.

drife
(Golden, CO)
Posted: Jul 10, 2012 - 18:48
 
Here is a song I thought I'd never hear again in my lifetime. I distinctly remember when this song came out (I was in high school) as it received a lot of airplay in my neck of the woods.

donnyballgame
(41*53'36.29N 87*38'20.43W)
Posted: Jul 10, 2012 - 18:48
 
Trent Reznor could really drill this song!

{#Fire}

ChrisH
(UK)
Posted: Jun 09, 2012 - 05:57
 
Wow Wow Fred. Genesis in the studio from 1969 - 1997. Whilst longevity is not an indicator of quality, the band certainly had something going for them. In my view they were certainly a great, original and innovative band certainly up to and including the album, "And Then There Three" in 1978.  Whilst I am not a great fan of Phil, I think he really damaged the band, I am great fan of Peter Gabriel and particularly the music he continues to produce since leaving Genesis.

Seahunt
(Parent's Basement)
Posted: May 08, 2012 - 07:23
 
I've been vindicated.  I like Genesis (with Phil at lead) and Bill plays them so {#Ass}

Red_Dragon
Posted: May 08, 2012 - 07:22
 
no.

h8rhater
Posted: Apr 06, 2012 - 14:18
 
 fredriley wrote:

I loathed, and still loathe, Genesis' output, and until I started listening to RP I'd always associated Peter Gabriel with that pretentious pile of prog, but I now realise that PG did himself a big favour by leaving Genesis and that he's close to a musical genius. Phil Collins, on the other hand, is a self-regarding pillock with barely a musical bone in his body. I loved it when the brilliant and vicious satirist Chris Morris gulled Collins bigtime in the (in)famous Brass Eye 'paedophile special'. Instead of taking it on the chin, Collins was so egotistical that he considered legal action against Morris. A pompous prick of the highest order who's deservedly sunk into the dustbin of history.

 
Wow, Fred... just wow.  Tell us how you really feel. 

Phil Collins was one of the heaviest handed drummers in the business back in the day.  Eric Clapton tabbed him to do all of his drumming in the mid-80s.  This while he was having incredible successes on his own as a solo artist and with Genesis. 

Even though you don't like his work with Genesis, he did guide the band to phenomenal success in the 80's.  Duke, Abacab, Genesis, and Invisible Touch (all albums that he was integral in creating with the band) ALL went #1 in the UK.  His solo albums Face Value, No Jacket Required, and Seriously Folks...  ALL went #1 in the UK.  No Jacket Required was the Grammy winning album of the year in 1985 and featured 3 #1 songs in the US.  No other artist had as much success in the world in 1985.  In the Air Tonight is one of the most iconic songs of all time.  We get it that you don't like a particular type of music but you are WAY off base saying that Phil Collins has "barely a musical bone in his body".

As for Brass Eye... I can't imagine why Phil was upset.  Everyone likes to have a good paedophile joke played on them, don't they?!?

BTW:  The reason Phil doesn't play anymore is that he has damaged vertebrae in his neck and can no longer use his hands properly.  It's probably just karma because he is such an egotistical, pretentious, and pompous prick.

At least we agree on Peter Gabriel.  That is something!

Jörg_Asmussen
Posted: Apr 06, 2012 - 14:18
 
I love the extended versions even more. 

zair99
(In Cognito)
Posted: Apr 06, 2012 - 14:00
 
I had a hard time believing this was Genesis sans Peter Gabriel!  Surprisingly good!

dwlangham
(Nowhere to be found)
Posted: Apr 06, 2012 - 13:54
 
Now I remember why I hate Genesis. Ha-huh-huh.

ycb661
Posted: Apr 06, 2012 - 13:53
 
Genesis wrote this after listening to Einstürzende Neubauten and  Grandmaster Flash.

whtahtefcuk
(Flagstaff, AZ, USA)
Posted: Apr 06, 2012 - 13:52
 
Phil = Lame

Webfoot
(Eugene, Oregon)
Posted: Apr 06, 2012 - 13:51
 
What a surprise, but not the pleasant variety for me. 5

thais
Posted: Apr 06, 2012 - 13:50
 
Bill you just be kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This tunbe is one more perfect definition of SUCKO-BARFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

acupunk
(West Hartford)
Posted: Apr 06, 2012 - 13:50
 
 fredriley wrote:

I loathed, and still loathe, Genesis' output, and until I started listening to RP I'd always associated Peter Gabriel with that pretentious pile of prog, but I now realise that PG did himself a big favour by leaving Genesis and that he's close to a musical genius. Phil Collins, on the other hand, is a self-regarding pillock with barely a musical bone in his body. I loved it when the brilliant and vicious satirist Chris Morris gulled Collins bigtime in the (in)famous Brass Eye 'paedophile special'. Instead of taking it on the chin, Collins was so egotistical that he considered legal action against Morris. A pompous prick of the highest order who's deservedly sunk into the dustbin of history.

 
Well they say that opinions are like A*%holes, everybody's got one.

On_The_Beach
(The Blue Planet)
Posted: Mar 05, 2012 - 22:38
 
 fredriley wrote:

I loathed, and still loathe, Genesis' output, and until I started listening to RP I'd always associated Peter Gabriel with that pretentious pile of prog, but I now realise that PG did himself a big favour by leaving Genesis and that he's close to a musical genius. Phil Collins, on the other hand, is a self-regarding pillock with barely a musical bone in his body. I loved it when the brilliant and vicious satirist Chris Morris gulled Collins bigtime in the (in)famous Brass Eye 'paedophile special'. Instead of taking it on the chin, Collins was so egotistical that he considered legal action against Morris. A pompous prick of the highest order who's deservedly sunk into the dustbin of history.

 
Dude, get some fresh air.

LordBaltimore
(Maryland)
Posted: Feb 03, 2012 - 06:43
 
 fredriley wrote:

I loathed, and still loathe, Genesis' output, and until I started listening to RP I'd always associated Peter Gabriel with that pretentious pile of prog, but I now realise that PG did himself a big favour by leaving Genesis and that he's close to a musical genius. Phil Collins, on the other hand, is a self-regarding pillock with barely a musical bone in his body. I loved it when the brilliant and vicious satirist Chris Morris gulled Collins bigtime in the (in)famous Brass Eye 'paedophile special'. Instead of taking it on the chin, Collins was so egotistical that he considered legal action against Morris. A pompous prick of the highest order who's deservedly sunk into the dustbin of history.
 
I'm sorry you feel that way.  Phil's drumming is some of the best ever recorded.  I dislike almost all of Phil's solo output, but his work with Genesis is brilliant.

LordBaltimore
(Maryland)
Posted: Feb 03, 2012 - 06:41
 
 Poacher wrote:
I have just rated something from Phil Collins an 8. . . I now feel dirty and confused.  
 
Listen to more of their pre-1986 output and you may find yourself giving out that rating a lot more!  :)

fredriley
(Nottingham, UK)
Posted: Feb 03, 2012 - 05:16
 
 jmsmy wrote:
this is great

Phil gets a bad rap for Genesis' 80s stuff - but they did a lot of great Rock music.

"Get-Over It" the fact that Peter left.
 
I loathed, and still loathe, Genesis' output, and until I started listening to RP I'd always associated Peter Gabriel with that pretentious pile of prog, but I now realise that PG did himself a big favour by leaving Genesis and that he's close to a musical genius. Phil Collins, on the other hand, is a self-regarding pillock with barely a musical bone in his body. I loved it when the brilliant and vicious satirist Chris Morris gulled Collins bigtime in the (in)famous Brass Eye 'paedophile special'. Instead of taking it on the chin, Collins was so egotistical that he considered legal action against Morris. A pompous prick of the highest order who's deservedly sunk into the dustbin of history.


haljordan
(right there with ya, baby)
Posted: Feb 03, 2012 - 05:12
 
Anyone else remember that episode of Magnum P.I. where they used this as the background music when Thomas was closing in on a serial killer?

More of the useless crap that's rattling around in my head.

MiracleDrug
(Earth)
Posted: Feb 03, 2012 - 05:12
 
Genesis - Peter and Steve =  The Phil Collins Review (aka Squiggy and The Squigtones)...

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Poacher
(Brighton, UK)
Posted: Feb 03, 2012 - 05:10
 
I have just rated something from Phil Collins an 8. . . I now feel dirty and confused.  

sirdroseph
(Yes)
Posted: Feb 03, 2012 - 05:08
 
 jmsmy wrote:
this is great

Phil gets a bad rap for Genesis' 80s stuff - but they did a lot of great Rock music.

"Get-Over It" the fact that Peter left.
 

I'm with you this and Abacab are my favorite Genesis albums.

jmsmy
(Music Town, Klein, Texas)
Posted: Jan 02, 2012 - 10:28
 
this is great

Phil gets a bad rap for Genesis' 80s stuff - but they did a lot of great Rock music.

"Get-Over It" the fact that Peter left.



gemtag
(Texas)
Posted: Jan 02, 2012 - 10:22
 
This is awful

Mugro
(My body is in Dubai, but my broken heart is in Red Sox Nation)
Posted: Jan 02, 2012 - 10:20
 
Perhaps this song is now considered an historic oddity.

LordBaltimore
(Maryland)
Posted: Dec 02, 2011 - 07:41
 
 Anax wrote:
Not a bad song, except for the part that sounds like a cross between a laugh and an up-chuck. Seriously, what did he think that added?
 
Phil got the idea from Grandmaster Flash's "a-haha-ha-ha" laugh in his song The Message, he was doing a riff on that with a more sinister vibe (he's said this repeatedly in interviews).   

Anax
(Seattle, WA)
Posted: Dec 01, 2011 - 16:26
 
Not a bad song, except for the part that sounds like a cross between a laugh and an up-chuck. Seriously, what did he think that added?

bendame
Posted: Dec 01, 2011 - 16:24
 
Such brilliant musicians. Such a waste of talent from the "Then they where tree album" and later. Going from prog to pop to puke. No difference between Collins solo stuff and Genesis post 70s.

TimeWaster
Posted: Dec 01, 2011 - 16:24
 
Ha Ha, Heh Heh


Servo
(Earth)
Posted: Apr 28, 2007 - 05:23
 
If only Phil Collins had kept Genesis going in this direction. I didn't mind his middle-age nostalgia trip per se. But he never should have let down his bandmates by turning them into backup musicians for his solo act.

sharkartist
Posted: Mar 27, 2007 - 11:18
 
Listening to this today, it's hard for me to imagine that I liked this stuff back in its day.
Seahunt
(Edgewater, MD)
Posted: Mar 27, 2007 - 11:17
 
Summers at the beach and Genesis albumns on the turntable
daveesh
(birthplace of the american revolution)
Posted: Mar 27, 2007 - 11:13
 
genesis was bad enough when peter gabriel was involved...
davin
(Victoria, British Columbia)
Posted: Mar 27, 2007 - 11:12
 
You can say what you like about Phil Collins but there aren't many who can pull off what he did in this song.

Awesome song, shame that a poor mp3 rip of it is being played.
mattt
(Undisclosed Location)
Posted: Mar 27, 2007 - 11:12
 
Trustocity wrote:
Love Genesis, love this song. Love Peter, love Phil, respect what Peter did to the band, respect what Phil did to the band, can't forgive what Phil did to himself and the band in later years.

Wow. Perfect summation.
(former member)
(in the attic, while the moon is rising in the sky.)
Posted: Mar 27, 2007 - 11:11
 
I have recently acquired a new-found appreciation for Genesis (Peter and Phil versions). This is a great song.
dragonflygal
(Moments away from the new system)
Posted: Mar 27, 2007 - 11:10
 
Sounds like he could use some Mucinex.