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kurtster
(drifting)
Posted: Oct 14, 2017 17:57
 

been years since I've come in to look at this song. (2011)

This just might have the most comments and ratings of any song on RP.
Proclivities
(Paris of the Piedmont)
Posted: Sep 14, 2017 4:51
 

 SquiddlyDiddly wrote:
. . . if we have a race of rabid aliens descend on planet earth and start farming us. . . then I'd suggest anyone who is still comfortable eating other sentient animals should not have any argument with that. 

Just saying. 


 
 I assume you mean "fanatical" aliens, and not aliens who have rabies.  Either way, it's difficult to know for sure until they show up.  Do you think they'd spare vegetarians and vegans?  It could make for a fun sci-fi story.
Solanus
Posted: Aug 14, 2017 14:06
 

I have always loved the overall feel of this song, especially the guitar & vocals, but I've never really paid attention to the lyrics (that's my standard M.O.).

Now that I have ... damn, that hits extremely close to home. It's like my thoughts put to paper in a way that I've never had the courage to admit to.

Shit - Bill, can you please put on some Deee-Lite or something equally happy & positive?
thewiseking
(New York, New York)
Posted: Aug 14, 2017 13:32
 

Bill's takin y'all to school with the Bo Diddley to Johnny Marr transition
kt.johnson.jr364
Posted: Aug 01, 2017 11:04
 

Johnny's  driving rhythm guitar, a haunting riff, and the Morrisey voice are a great combo - especially like the guitar drum break near the end
ShamanManu
(somewhere in between)
Posted: Jul 20, 2017 0:03
 

 jmkate wrote:
Still marvelous..

 
{#Cheers}
Foot
(NorCal / Wine)
Posted: Jul 01, 2017 17:13
 

8 > 9
SquiddlyDiddly
(Brighton, UK)
Posted: Jun 19, 2017 9:47
 

 unclehud wrote:

This post is meant in a spirit of free discussion, not condemnation or accusatory rhetoric.

Eating anything means you are responsible for death, even if you didn't kill the plant or animal directly.  (Same for clothes.  You're murdering cotton plants!)

I am not religious, but still silently pray over my food: "Thank you, chicken/pig/fish/asparagus/broccoli/potato, for giving up your life for mine.  I hope to live in a manner that honors your sacrifice."  (And yes, I stole this idea from American Indians.)

Do you also accuse animals of murder?  They consume meat, too, by killing their prey.

 
For me, it is a case of being conscious. Once I woke up to what I was actually doing by consuming animal flesh I simply could not continue. 

Saying 'thank you' to the animal for giving up its life for a mouthful of meat nowadays, when it is easy to avoid eating it in the first place, seems to me to be a huge cop out. 

I had a thought the other day. If you believe (as I do) that aliens exist, and if you accept some are likely to be much more advanced than us in many areas, then if they look on a 'sub-species' like us as a food source, is it any different from us playing the same card on the animal world? Therefore. . . if we have a race of rabid aliens descend on planet earth and start farming us. . . then I'd suggest anyone who is still comfortable eating other sentient animals should not have any argument with that. 

Just saying. 
dwhayslett
(Pawleys Island, SC)
Posted: May 03, 2017 9:14
 

 Proclivities wrote:

It was mentioned earlier in the thread.  The version is a cover by Love Spit Love - a band which featured Richard Butler (of The Psychedelic Furs), on vocals.

 
I didn't know that.  But that explains why I've occasionally (mis)remembered that theme as being a Furs song.
unclehud
(Hallelujah! Back in the ATL suburbs!)
Posted: May 03, 2017 7:59
 

 slandering wrote:
.....  Meat is murder!
 
This post is meant in a spirit of free discussion, not condemnation or accusatory rhetoric.

Eating anything means you are responsible for death, even if you didn't kill the plant or animal directly.  (Same for clothes.  You're murdering cotton plants!)

I am not religious, but still silently pray over my food: "Thank you, chicken/pig/fish/asparagus/broccoli/potato, for giving up your life for mine.  I hope to live in a manner that honors your sacrifice."  (And yes, I stole this idea from American Indians.)

Do you also accuse animals of murder?  They consume meat, too, by killing their prey.
dwhayslett
(Pawleys Island, SC)
Posted: May 03, 2017 7:49
 

 Bat wrote:

If it's true that you are what you eat, then why be a vegetable?  You should eat other people who are smarter and better looking than you. 

 
This is quite possibly the sagest dietary advice ever offered.
Proclivities
(Paris of the Piedmont)
Posted: May 03, 2017 7:48
 

 ChrisVIII wrote:
surprised that no one has made a comment about the version of the song that has been used for "Charmed" 
This song is a nice 9 and if it is overplayed as some claim it is, then I have to either listen to RP more often or change the time at which I do because I rarely catch it  ! 

 
It was mentioned earlier in the thread.  The version is a cover by Love Spit Love - a band which featured Richard Butler (of The Psychedelic Furs), on vocals.
govna
(beantown)
Posted: Apr 19, 2017 9:19
 

Every time I hear "and yo go home, and you cry and you want to die," it makes me hate this song that much more.
dragon1952
(Oregon coast)
Posted: Mar 14, 2017 17:42
 

"I am human and I need to be luh-uh-uhved."
 I luh-uh-uhv this. {#Guitarist}
SmackDaddy
(San Diego)
Posted: Feb 23, 2017 13:55
 

 altblues1 wrote:

Do you know the hardest thing about eating vegetables?
Picking the wheelchair out of your teeth. 

 
How do you make vegetarian gravy?

Slowly roast a vegetarian, collect the drippings, add a little milk and flour, stir briskly, season to taste.
jt1
Posted: Feb 17, 2017 4:35
 

 tulfan wrote:
Still a monumental guitar riff...and then there's Morrissey

 
Yes.

I like the ambiguity of your comment on Morrissey.


jmkate
(nearly under a stack of books)
Posted: Jan 31, 2017 9:00
 

Still marvelous..
hayduke2
(Southampton, NY)
Posted: Dec 31, 2016 15:35
 

Thank you Skydog!  love The Smiths (also love instructive thesaurus-like word history : )   Happy New Year All
Skydog
Posted: Dec 31, 2016 15:20
 

 ScottishWillie wrote:

The carnations are just another part of Morrissey’s pretentious nonsense. They were the best and most important band of the 80’s as far as I’m concerned but that doesn't make Morrissey any less of a bampot!



 
I had to look up bampot, yeah I guess so but he's our bampot
.
 bampot n. a crazy person; a fool or dolt. Etymological Note: Most likely a form of barmpot. According to OEDbarm, “the froth that forms on top of fermenting malt liquors; the head of a beer,” is used attributively as a formative to indicate a crazy or feeble-minded person or idea. This is, obviously, related to barmy or balmy ‘crazy.’ Thanks to Michael Quinion for the tip on bampot‘s etymology. Probably not related to the Irish Gaelic bambairne ‘dolt, stupid person, lout.’ In “Some Modern Irish loanwords describing people” (Celtica vol. 18, p. 53, 1986, School of Celtic Studies, Dublin) Mícheál Ó Siadhail connects bambairne to the old Spanish slang bambarria, which, according to the Velasquez Spanish and English Dictionary (1985, New Win Publishing) means ‘a fool; an idiot.’ Bambarria is glossed as “blockhead” in Carnoy, Albert. “Apophony and Rhyme Words in Vulgar Latin Onomatopoeias. American Journ. of Philology. vol. 38, no. 3. (1917) 271. (source: Double-Tongued Dictionary)
semolinapilchard
(England)
Posted: Dec 22, 2016 11:16
 

Most excellent but stop all that wiggling Morrissey!
ScottishWillie
(The Scottish Lowlands)
Posted: Dec 01, 2016 1:12
 

 VH1 wrote:
{#Clap}I always wondered about the carnations in his back pocket! {#Lol}
 

The carnations are just another part of Morrissey’s pretentious nonsense. They were the best and most important band of the 80’s as far as I’m concerned but that doesn't make Morrissey any less of a bampot!


A_Radio_Head
(Minneapolis)
Posted: Oct 31, 2016 7:34
 

Happy Birthday Johnny Marr!
Kaisersosay
(Mighty Mighty Bostown)
Posted: Sep 28, 2016 8:43
 

 mardisoninnc wrote:
I wholeheartedly concur with "buddy"!

 
I'm with mardi,,, who is with buddy
mardisoninnc
(Morganton, NC)
Posted: Sep 28, 2016 8:39
 

I wholeheartedly concur with "buddy"!
buddy
Posted: Aug 29, 2016 13:52
 

This song is brilliant.  Johnny Marr's driving rhythm guitar is the perfect counterpart to Morrisey's lyrics & vocal.  I understand how some people "don't get" The Smiths.  I'm grateful that I do.
Bat
(Austin)
Posted: Aug 29, 2016 13:43
 

 h8rhater wrote:
People are so defensive.  Just because you feel shame from eating meat doesn't mean you have to lash out at others.

Personally, I love a good steak and care not the least that Morrissey does not.  I do, however, like the song. Which is all that really matters in the context of this thread.

 
If it's true that you are what you eat, then why be a vegetable?  You should eat other people who are smarter and better looking than you. 
Steely_D
(Biscayne Bay, where the Cuban gentlemen sleep all day)
Posted: Aug 29, 2016 13:41
 


tulfan
(Still in SE MI)
Posted: Jul 27, 2016 8:21
 

Still a monumental guitar riff...and then there's Morrissey
sheeelaaa
(where great wine begins)
Posted: Jul 14, 2016 14:59
 

I wish there was a repeat button ... I can listen to this over and over.
Wilfrue
(The space between your reality and my dreams)
Posted: Jun 07, 2016 11:33
 

Oh, Morrissey, why so sad? 
h8rhater
Posted: May 26, 2016 4:52
 

People are so defensive.  Just because you feel shame from eating meat doesn't mean you have to lash out at others.

Personally, I love a good steak and care not the least that Morrissey does not.  I do, however, like the song. Which is all that really matters in the context of this thread.
kgage
Posted: May 24, 2016 12:17
 

 +1

stewliscious wrote:
As soon as i hear the whining intro of this song, i cringe.  I honestly do not get this band.  It's made of plastic and pretense.  And meat is delicious!

 


altblues1
Posted: May 24, 2016 12:12
 

 Will62 wrote:

Vegetables having feelings too you know!!

 
Do you know the hardest thing about eating vegetables?
Picking the wheelchair out of your teeth.
altblues1
Posted: May 24, 2016 12:12
 

 Will62 wrote:

Vegetables having feelings too you know!!

 
Do you know the hardest thing about eating vegetables?
Picking the wheelchair out of your teeth.
altblues1
Posted: May 24, 2016 12:12
 

 Will62 wrote:

Vegetables having feelings too you know!!

 
Do you know the hardest thing about eating vegetables?
Picking the wheelchair out of your teeth. 
buddy
Posted: May 11, 2016 16:57
 

My favorite Smiths tune by far.
Will62
Posted: May 11, 2016 16:55
 

 slandering wrote:
Yeah how soon is now that YOU stay away of eating animals?     Meat is murder!

 
Vegetables having feelings too you know!!
baylees
Posted: May 06, 2016 9:45
 

one more time, thanks,  some songs blast better at volume setting 11 like this one.

Shyness that is particularly vulgar.   High School was along time ago.  But it left a mark
Skydog
(The Mitten)
Posted: May 06, 2016 9:41
 

 papersitter wrote:
Johnny Marr is such a distinctive guitarist. As far as I am concerned he is what makes The Smiths special.

 
I love watching the old youtube clips of him playing that John Lennon black and white Rickenbacker
slandering
(green + lovely Bavaria)
Posted: Apr 24, 2016 1:46
 

Yeah how soon is now that YOU stay away of eating animals?     Meat is murder!
dubberdan
Posted: Apr 24, 2016 1:42
 

 baylees wrote:
Love the reverb fuzz guitar and haunting sound   cranked to 11

 
Yep me too, a great sound. Shame that Morrisey's voice grates on me
VH1
(near Alpha Centauri, then the next left!)
Posted: Apr 22, 2016 9:26
 

{#Clap}I always wondered about the carnations in his back pocket! {#Lol}
Timbo080
Posted: Apr 09, 2016 15:03
 

Grew up in a small town that had either classic rock or bubble gum pop on the radio.  This was the first "alternative" song that I heard in College that showed me that there was more music out there.  It changed my music listening habits for life.
Skydog
(The Mitten)
Posted: Apr 04, 2016 9:42
 

i played The Smiths "This Charming Man" for my wife and she blushed
SteadyRollingMan
(Miami, Florida)
Posted: Mar 23, 2016 5:55
 

This song will always remind me of Piper, Phoebe, Prue and Paige.    {#War}
baylees
Posted: Mar 21, 2016 14:02
 

Love the reverb fuzz guitar and haunting sound   cranked to 11
Skydog
(The Mitten)
Posted: Mar 21, 2016 13:51
 

we were just discussing Morrissey in the previous song thread
.
did you plan this Bill?{#Confused} 
bmccaul
(always getting nearer to Paradise)
Posted: Mar 08, 2016 20:41
 

Just how I feel - I rate this a 9.

But it made me wonder if I really don't like other Smiths songs, so I checked my other ratings for Smith songs: 5, 6, 6, 7, for an average of 6.  Not all that low, compared to some other 80s bands I'm not very fond of.

 
scrubbrush wrote:
The only Smiths song that I can definitively say that I like... and I do like it a lot!

 


Nerubo
(Denver, CO)
Posted: Mar 03, 2016 16:11
 

I missed this song when it first came out, being a bit too young (and my religious folks would have been very suspicious of any rock n roll that wasn't oldies).

I like it. In addition to being musically unique, it also captures an emotion which, if the comments are anything to go by, a lot of people don't want to feel, or don't feel.

And the lyrics!  "A shyness which is criminally vulgar" is such a classic line.

Also the following, one that many introverts will instantly recognize (the context being going to a club):

"So you go and you stand on your own
And you leave on your own
And you go home"

A 10 for me in case that wasn't obvious.


 
stewliscious
(northGA)
Posted: Feb 20, 2016 12:56
 

As soon as i hear the whining intro of this song, i cringe.  I honestly do not get this band.  It's made of plastic and pretense.  And meat is delicious!