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Joan Baez — Diamonds and Rust
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AndyJ
(Oregon)
Posted: Apr 23, 2013 - 10:59
 
It doesn't matter who she wrote it about. It appeals because it could apply to -all- of us. Every one has some fond memories that get clearer as time passes. They are our own history. Drunk dialing is not  something unique to Joan and Bob...

There is no going back... No "Do Overs" in real life.  


  

ottovonb
Posted: Apr 23, 2013 - 10:57
 
A mild case of Dolly Partonesque warblage. Ack.

aspicer
(Chicago, IL)
Posted: Apr 23, 2013 - 10:56
 
Just kind of depresses me really, and I know she is a great songwriter with a beautiful voice and...

Siljanus
Posted: Apr 23, 2013 - 10:56
 
Just for a change of pace, it would be nice to hear Judas Priest belting this out right after.  {#Guitarist}

This version doesn't seem to irk me as much today so I'll bump up my 3 rating a bit.

Catalytic
(Calgary, Alberta, Canada)
Posted: Apr 23, 2013 - 10:56
 
IfIPrattleAPreachySpeechInASingingVoiceICanCallItASooooooooong!

scraig
(Santa Barbara, CA)
Posted: Apr 23, 2013 - 10:55
 
I'm glad she made it to Woodstock and the Doors got nixed. NOT

johnjconn
(chicago land)
Posted: Apr 23, 2013 - 10:54
 
nails on a chalk board

Kaisersosay
(Mighty Mighty Bostown)
Posted: Apr 23, 2013 - 10:53
 
Make Joan Laugh

bachbeet
Posted: Mar 22, 2013 - 23:38
 
A very good singer.  Liked her songs and her sister's songs too (her sister was Mimi Farina who recorded with her husband Richard).  I think Richard died in the motorcycle accident that Dylan survived.

kingart
(Brooklyn NY)
Posted: Feb 19, 2013 - 13:31
 
I wonder what crummy hotel over Washington Square she refers to. Almost 50 years later (holy s***, half a century) a lot of that 'hood is simultaneously quite the same but entirely different. 
 

Grammarcop
(You want an E Class? We got 'em!)
Posted: Feb 19, 2013 - 13:30
 
Joan Baez, a New York City native, was a fixture of the Northeast folk scene in the 1970s. This was released in 1975, just as New York's punk scene was taking off. After listening to this yet again, it's easy to see how a new generation of New Yorkers could reject this in favor of simplistic three-chord songs played fast and loud. 

WonderLizard
(2,755.46 mi. due east of Paradise)
Posted: Feb 19, 2013 - 13:27
 
 Giselle62 wrote:

20 years later? It came out in '75. They were going out around '65. I think they really did love each other. This a beautiful and very moving song about that brief moment.
Is the song you are talking about "Love is just a 4-letter word?" Which song are you talking about? He wrote a lot of his best put-down songs about another woman, Suze Rotolo.
 I'm not sure what you're trying to say: that it's not okay for a married woman to seek fame? I'd like to know where you are coming from with that comment.
 She couldn't help her fame, just like he couldn't help his—-(and because he was vastly more famous he had vastly more problems with the whole thing)
They were both very talented and very much a part of their time. I don't love her style, but I think he treated her  badly and was a downright and total asshole in "Don't Look Back."

 
My understanding is that "Diamonds and Rust" was an answer to "Tangled Up in Blue"—the classic song about a intermittent romance over time. Of course "Tangled" came out with Blood on the Tracks in 1975. She didn't waste any time, eh?

jmsmy
(Music Town, Klein, Texas)
Posted: Feb 19, 2013 - 13:21
 
I was 16 when this song was on the local Rock stations.
When I was 20 the live Judas Priest version was on the same local Rock stations. 

I'm one of the few who can say - I still love both versions.

Great song Joan 

d-don
(Oregon)
Posted: Feb 19, 2013 - 13:15
 
"...and I remember your eyes were bluer than robin's eggs." One of the greatest love songs ever written.

pi31415
Posted: Dec 18, 2012 - 21:09
 
Love the song now! When I was a kid my mom used to play it all the time and it drove me nuts. Then I heard a Judas Priest cover and loved their version. Perhaps they were a gateway band, but now I love everything about Joan Baez's version (plus many of her other songs). Thank you!

Aud
(lost in lakecity)
Posted: Nov 17, 2012 - 23:09
 
 jadewahoo wrote:
Like a knife to the heart, begging to be pushed in deeper, deeper, until it reaches the explosive sweetness of love divine to be found beneath all the scar tissue.
 

Yes Great comment. I have somebody that comes to mind with this song. I have to stop whatever I am doing and listen...

MirageRF
(Clemmons, NC, USA)
Posted: Nov 17, 2012 - 12:18
 
 jadewahoo wrote:
Like a knife to the heart, begging to be pushed in deeper, deeper, until it reaches the explosive sweetness of love divine to be found beneath all the scar tissue.
 
Very poetic comment.  Couldn't agree more!

Xeric
(Montana)
Posted: Nov 17, 2012 - 12:17
 
Such a poet, such a voice. Thanks, Joan.

MirageRF
(Clemmons, NC, USA)
Posted: Nov 17, 2012 - 12:17
 
America's women of folk are fundamental to music's history and deserve more credit.  Super song Joan!

jadewahoo
Posted: Nov 17, 2012 - 12:16
 
Like a knife to the heart, begging to be pushed in deeper, deeper, until it reaches the explosive sweetness of love divine to be found beneath all the scar tissue.

ploba
(the other coast and hang a left)
Posted: Oct 17, 2012 - 03:52
 
 nailed it!

AndyJ wrote:

The music and lyrics are by Joan Baez... I think this maybe about Dylan. The "Washington Square: reference is more likely a clue to NYC than SF...

She has a great voice and phrasing... I love her sound...Makes me wish for a bit of wine...and quiet conversation with a good friend, o someone in the process of becoming...
 



ploba
(the other coast and hang a left)
Posted: Oct 17, 2012 - 03:51
 
 
yes!  and close my eyes and go back to that time.......what a treat to hear this

goodbugs wrote:
Everything stops. I have to listen to every word, again. Never enough!
 



jmsmy
(Music Town, Klein, Texas)
Posted: Sep 15, 2012 - 14:37
 
My 27 year old question to Joan & Rob Halford is - How come you two didn't sing this song together at Live Aid.

coding_to_music
(Beantown)
Posted: Sep 15, 2012 - 14:34
 
 goodbugs wrote:
Everything stops. I have to listen to every word, again. Never enough!
 
Exactly

Proclivities
(Carrboro, NC)
Posted: Jul 14, 2012 - 16:45
 
 fingerpin wrote:

I was taking issue with the fact that here it is used as a measurement of time rather than the distance it actually represents. As far as a measurement of time, a light year is still just a year. Just wanted to clarify. :)
 

 drivingunit103 wrote:

,,,with less calories?
 
...apparently there's a gluten-free version now.

goodbugs
(Lauderdale)
Posted: Jul 14, 2012 - 16:43
 
Everything stops. I have to listen to every word, again. Never enough!

neuticle
(fog fog fog)
Posted: Jul 14, 2012 - 16:42
 
Jeez. And I thought Bryan Ferry was heavy on the vibrato

justsomeone
(Between a rock and a hard place)
Posted: Jul 14, 2012 - 16:40
 
Gimme Judas Priest, please...

iTuner
Posted: May 12, 2012 - 06:35
 
 GarageDragon wrote:
Remember the scene in "Animal House" where Belushi grabs some guy's guitar and smashes it against the wall? This song reminds me of that.
 
I'd set it on fire too.

 

drivingunit103
(around the 4 western provinces)
Posted: May 12, 2012 - 06:32
 
 fingerpin wrote:

I was taking issue with the fact that here it is used as a measurement of time rather than the distance it actually represents. As far as a measurement of time, a light year is still just a year. Just wanted to clarify. :)
 
,,,with less calories?

AndyJ
(Oregon)
Posted: Apr 10, 2012 - 13:17
 

The music and lyrics are by Joan Baez... I think this maybe about Dylan. The "Washington Square: reference is more likely a clue to NYC than SF...

She has a great voice and phrasing... I love her sound...Makes me wish for a bit of wine...and quiet conversation with a good friend, o someone in the process of becoming...

ubuntourist
(Brain-Washington)
Posted: Apr 10, 2012 - 13:16
 
 Moak wrote:


 fingerpin wrote:
"A couple of light years ago". Arrrg...a light year is just a year. Okay, I'll chalk it up to poetic license. 
 
A light year isn't a year...it's the distance light travels in a year.
...a couple of light years ago...still sounds good though.



 
I dunno 'bout that: I've had a few dark years. ;-)

nagsheadlocal
(North Carolina, the new New Jersey)
Posted: Apr 10, 2012 - 13:15
 
 bev wrote:


...yes...those have got to be my favorite lines from the song...which I believe is filled with amazing lines. It's a solid "10" for me — from the very first time I heard it and through every time since. So haunting. And knowing some of the history of Joan's affair with Bob Dylan just makes it even more poignant.

"...and if you're offering me Diamonds and Rust...I've already paid..."

Wow.

 
Yeah, this song and Jackson Browne's "Fountain of Sorrow" are both filled with amazing imagery and emotional insight. Both make me stop whatever I'm doing and listen, for the thousandth time, to the last note.

 

Randomax
(Wimberley, TX)
Posted: Apr 10, 2012 - 13:14
 
 fingerpin wrote:

I was taking issue with the fact that here it is used as a measurement of time rather than the distance it actually represents. As far as a measurement of time, a light year is still just a year. Just wanted to clarify. :)
 
I always thought she meant how QUICKLY the couple of years had gone....at the speed of light

dw
(PHill, CA)
Posted: Apr 10, 2012 - 13:14
 
Still beautiful....so descriptive.

martinc
(Ottawa Canada)
Posted: Apr 10, 2012 - 13:14
 
One of Steve Jobs favorite ladies.

The_Enemy
(...is within)
Posted: Apr 10, 2012 - 13:14
 
 CMax wrote:
Is this about Bob Dylan?? 
 
That what I've always understood.

MiracleDrug
(Earth)
Posted: Apr 10, 2012 - 13:14
 
oh I'll be damned if I'll listen to this...
PSD.

mandolin
(...drifting...)
Posted: Apr 10, 2012 - 13:14
 
 CMax wrote:
Is this about Bob Dylan?? 
 
...yep...

CMax
(Copenhagen)
Posted: Feb 07, 2012 - 04:07
 
Is this about Bob Dylan?? 

fingerpin
(oHIo)
Posted: Jan 06, 2012 - 11:14
 
 Moak wrote:


 fingerpin wrote:
"A couple of light years ago". Arrrg...a light year is just a year. Okay, I'll chalk it up to poetic license. 
 
A light year isn't a year...it's the distance light travels in a year.
...a couple of light years ago...still sounds good though.

 
I was taking issue with the fact that here it is used as a measurement of time rather than the distance it actually represents. As far as a measurement of time, a light year is still just a year. Just wanted to clarify. :)

Moak
(Reading, PA)
Posted: Jan 06, 2012 - 09:20
 


 fingerpin wrote:
"A couple of light years ago". Arrrg...a light year is just a year. Okay, I'll chalk it up to poetic license. 
 
A light year isn't a year...it's the distance light travels in a year.
...a couple of light years ago...still sounds good though.




bev
(Reno, NV)
Posted: Jan 06, 2012 - 09:18
 
 vandal wrote:
Now I see you standing
With brown leaves falling around
And snow in your hair
Now you're smiling out the window
Of that crummy hotel
Over Washington Square
Our breath comes out white clouds
Mingles and hangs in the air
Speaking strictly for me
We both could have died then and there

 

...yes...those have got to be my favorite lines from the song...which I believe is filled with amazing lines. It's a solid "10" for me — from the very first time I heard it and through every time since. So haunting. And knowing some of the history of Joan's affair with Bob Dylan just makes it even more poignant.

"...and if you're offering me Diamonds and Rust...I've already paid..."

Wow.


fingerpin
(oHIo)
Posted: Jan 06, 2012 - 09:17
 
"A couple of light years ago". Arrrg...a light year is just a year. Okay, I'll chalk it up to poetic license. 

GarageDragon
Posted: Jan 06, 2012 - 09:17
 
Remember the scene in "Animal House" where Belushi grabs some guy's guitar and smashes it against the wall?

This song reminds me of that.

ploba
(the other coast and hang a left)
Posted: Jan 06, 2012 - 09:16
 
Not a huge fan of her - but this song...o this song.   Its a 10.

whtahtefcuk
(Flagstaff, AZ, USA)
Posted: Jan 06, 2012 - 09:15
 
This would be a NO for me...

Grammarcop
(Upriver from Zug Island)
Posted: Jan 06, 2012 - 09:15
 
Joan Baez two days in a row? Bill, are you okay? Are you going through a crisis or something?

coy
(san antonio)
Posted: Jan 06, 2012 - 09:14
 
bill likes joan
 

unclehud
(300 feet above the planet)
Posted: Dec 05, 2011 - 14:32
 
 "I never did see what my father saw in her."

That's because you're not your father.  I've often wondered about choices my father (and my children) have made, and then rejoiced that I am not living their llives.