![]() Vanilla Sky (Soundtrack) (2001) [ larger cover art ] |
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| (former member) (hotel in Las Vegas) | Posted: Feb 09, 2009 - 21:57 Love it... |
| snowcat (Cold, Frozen Minnesota) | Posted: Dec 11, 2008 - 18:57 The measure of a band's greatness is how many haters come out of the woodwork to say how much they suck. |
| Sideorder (Where the weather is always warm) | Posted: Jan 31, 2005 - 11:25 The most obnoxious band of all time. |
| Sideorder (Where the weather is always warm) | Posted: Jan 31, 2005 - 11:25 The most obnoxious band of all time. |
| Mark1970 (Grayson, GA) | Posted: Oct 05, 2004 - 09:04 Wow..... no one has commented yet on how part of this song is a complete ripoff of Cheap Trick's "Way Of The World" "I've been running, I've been hiding.... it's the way of the world!" |
| Darlington (Columbia, South Carolina) | Posted: Jan 10, 2004 - 19:38 OfficeUseOnly wrote: end note: I miss Let's Active. Even though the founder helped produce Murmur, I still think Let's Active's Cypress(1984), was amply the best music that came from that era. REM was an instant success, and I've never quite understood why Let's Active didn't extract the same response. I was going through some cd's this week that I hadn't listened to in ages, Let's Active, "Big Plans for Everybody" was one of them. I saw them open for REM in 1986 (Life's Rich Pageant Tour) right after that CD came out. Great cd. |
| BurningRome | Posted: Jan 10, 2004 - 19:20 Gotta like olde pre-Chronic Town REM gets recorded in the studio......they trotted out another notonanythingbutbootlegs song from 1980 on the current tour - "permanent vacation"! pk |
| OfficeUseOnly | Posted: Dec 21, 2003 - 05:58 Jacques wrote: for God's sake Kurt Cobain had no idea what the heck he was saying... They were over rated... come to think of it grunge was the most over rated musical genre in long while... but I digress.
I agree; you digress with such force, your assessment appears as half-baked as the one you oppose. end note: I miss Let's Active. Even though the founder helped produce Murmur, I still think Let's Active's Cypress(1984), was amply the best music that came from that era. REM was an instant success, and I've never quite understood why Let's Active didn't extract the same response. |
| Ziller | Posted: Sep 09, 2003 - 13:21 Bummer. Radioparadise does play crappy music. |
| msidoti (Secret Hideaway (USA)) | Posted: May 20, 2003 - 07:40 this newly recorded studio version doesn't quite live up to the live version, from Tyrones in 1980, but anytime you get to hear the pre-Murmur stuff that never made an album, you gotta love it, thanks RP |
| Alien-at-Large (Columbia, SC) | Posted: Feb 26, 2003 - 17:05
The VANILLA SKY version of the song is indeed a new recording, made with Joey Waronker in the studio specifically for the soundtrack. At least three older versions exist on bootlegs and one cleaned-up in-studio (I think) version that appeared on the "IRS VINTAGE YEARS" re-release of DEAD LETTER OFFICE. (In addition to CHRONIC TOWN, the IRS VINTAGE YEARS disc has two or three bonus unreleased tracks.) Not sure when or where the DLO version was recorded, but it's got a distinctive Bill Berry drum sound. Now if only they'd re-record and release some other 1981-era songs. I'm dying to hear a cleaned-up, in-studio version of "Mystery to Me." |
| Jacques (Brossard, Qc) | Posted: May 08, 2002 - 06:55 Originally Posted by Johray63:
Originally Posted by Jacques:
Hey, in 1982 I had two routes to chose from... Van Halen and Foreigner, or U2, REM and Costello... I chose the latter... I never looked back. Can pretty much agree with most of your comment, but weren't you a bit strict when you made that choice? I mean, why wouldn't you still like listening to some (old) van Halen or Foreigner too, every now and then? Of course, in another way than you once did, but nevertheless (or did you never really like those kinda bands in the first place?). I am using those two as examples of a genre... I've always disliked Foreigner and Van Halen (all the while never discounting Eddie Van Halen's talent as a solid songwriter and exceptional guitarist). To me this material was commercial and predictable, written to be hits and not particularly rife with musical integrity... U2 and Costello were trying to say something, not just get the first row of seats wet with "Teen Spirit" hoping to get some themselves... Foreigner and Van Halen were the last of the old school... the last of "arena rock dinosaurs" of the 1970's, and at the time, Costello and U2 offered a fresh approach and a new sound... so I chose the new sound being completely bored with the old one... I could have given dozens of other examples of what was to me dull and unimaginative arena rock dinosaurs and similarly, dozens of other artists I felt were also in the vanguard of new exciting voices in music... I chose these examples because they were instantly recognizable as icons of their respective genres. But, I appreciate the comment and the chance to clarify what I meant. I've read other comments by you Johray63, and even replied to a few (I defended your remarks in another where you questioned the logic of a commentor named "Orbit"), I think we generally see eye to eye musically... Cheers Jacques Radio Paradise: What Radio Could Have Been |
| Johray63 (Meppel) | Posted: May 04, 2002 - 03:47 Originally Posted by Jacques:
Hey, in 1982 I had two routes to chose from... Van Halen and Foreigner, or U2, REM and Costello... I chose the latter... I never looked back. Can pretty much agree with most of your comment, but weren't you a bit strict when you made that choice? I mean, why wouldn't you still like listening to some (old) van Halen or Foreigner too, every now and then? Of course, in another way than you once did, but nevertheless (or did you never really like those kinda bands in the first place?). |
| (8?ยป ((+2 RPT, bioload) Columbia, MO) | Posted: Apr 08, 2002 - 13:36 Now wait a minute, what does the merits of this song have to do with those of the band? I love REM, but think this song is just plain awful. It sounds like something one of the boy bands would unleash on us. (and I have yet to see anyone defending THEM around here). And it isn't just 'cause its a pop song either. In "Shiny Happy People" for instance, you can feel the energy of the artists. With "All the Right Friends", all I get is..... :???: |
| Jacques (Brossard, Qc) | Posted: Apr 03, 2002 - 06:36 I agree that REM may be past their prime.. but to call them the "most over rated band in America" is a bit much. They wrote some gems other songwriters would have given their eye-teeth to have penned. As for the "most over rated band in America... please, I can recall when the american record buyer thought "Hootie and the Blowfish" were the messiahs... REM may have gotten more than their fair share of critical acclaim, but the playing field was littered with so much dross at the time it wasn't hard to single them out as exceptional... you want over rated? Try "Pearl Jam" or "Nirvana"... great bands, yes, but ultimately angry little post-pubescent snotty-faced kids that were convinced they invented dark teenage angst... they were the "Pink Floyd" of their time... 15 year olds wrote their lives according to some heroin induced rantings of Kurt Cobain... for God's sake Kurt Cobain had no idea what the heck he was saying... They were over rated... come to think of it grunge was the most over rated musical genre in long while... but I digress. So, all of this to say... sure REM may be somewhat over rated... and this only when it comes to their weaker albums... but to call them the "most" over rated band in America is simply thinly veiled "I just plain hate 'em no matter what they do" rhetoric. Michael Stipe can be obnoxious.. and bit of a poser, sure... but I can separate his college drama queen persona from the excellence of their music. Hey, in 1982 I had two routes to chose from... Van Halen and Foreigner, or U2, REM and Costello... I chose the latter... I never looked back. Cheers Jacques Radio Paradise - What Radio Could Have Been... |
| Videll (Morgantown, WV) | Posted: Mar 22, 2002 - 15:41 Originally Posted by zaknafein:
It is old R.E.M. Before Vanilla Sky, the only place you could hear this song was on some old bootlegs circa 1981. The version that appears on Vanilla Sky was recorded in Seattle in October of last year. Joey Waronker is on drums. Are you sure about the rerecording? I have a European copy of Dead Letter Office from a few years ago that has a version on it...I was under the impression that this was the same recording (even AMG states that is was an outtake from the Reckoning sessions). |
| Johray63 (Meppel) | Posted: Mar 07, 2002 - 04:44 Bit overproduced for my taste, which makes it sound like going nowhere. A wall of sound can be impressive, but only when the song is impressive too. |
| Leslie (Antioch (155 mi. south of RP), CA) | Posted: Mar 05, 2002 - 21:03 Yuck, This reminds me of the insipid TV show "Friends". Give them both the boot. |
| GF (Eudowood, MD) | Posted: Feb 13, 2002 - 13:55 I hate REM always have, always will. I have never understood the appeal and Michael Stipe! OB-noxious. |
| zaknafein (Kansas City, MO) | Posted: Feb 12, 2002 - 06:31 Originally Posted by Shimmer:
God, it sounds like the old REM. When was this recorded? Who's playing drums? It is old R.E.M. Before Vanilla Sky, the only place you could hear this song was on some old bootlegs circa 1981. The version that appears on Vanilla Sky was recorded in Seattle in October of last year. Joey Waronker is on drums. |
| rmurray248 (EAST Paradise, MA) | Posted: Feb 01, 2002 - 20:49 ...I agree - they're so far past their peak it's difficult to remember they had one. |
| drken (Solon, OH) | Posted: Jan 28, 2002 - 09:07 most over-rated band in America |
| Shimmer (Bethesda, MD) | Posted: Jan 28, 2002 - 09:07 God, it sounds like the old REM. When was this recorded? Who's playing drums? |
| lily33 (Uniontown, PA) | Posted: Jan 04, 2002 - 19:13 this is a surprising soundtrack. i like this song too. i think it might be the first time i heard it (on the sndtk) |
