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Grateful Dead — Help On The Way/Franklin's Tower
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unclehud
(now 50 feet above the planet in Boston)
Posted: Mar 14, 2013 - 12:04
 
Note to my main bloke fredriley:  I hear you, bro.  Back then, I was creating enough smoke to close down Heathrow and just didn't catch the Dead vibe.  If you had to be there to understand, well, that doesn't wash, because — like you — I was there.

Does this qualify me for a handicap parking space?

leafmold
Posted: Mar 14, 2013 - 12:01
 
I like the Dead well enough, but this song is going on too long.

Limpopoking
(The Parish of St. Alfonzo)
Posted: Mar 14, 2013 - 12:01
 
I'd forgotten that this album existed... immediately took me back to my teens. Lovely!!!! This awesomeness that is Radio Paradise {#Biggrin}

timmywilson
Posted: Mar 14, 2013 - 12:00
 
Loved this when I first heard it.  So unlike anything else from the mid 70's.  Still quite unique in so many ways.  Thanks, Bill.

k-man
(SCruz, CA)
Posted: Mar 14, 2013 - 11:59
 
 fredriley wrote:
Maybe I should have been strapped down, made to smoke stiff spliffs, then had the Dead played at me for ten hours straight.
 

I'm very sad to report, but I don't think this prescription would address your condition.

Try instead to get outside more and enjoy the sounds of nature.



bbryan
(Don't believe everything you think)
Posted: Mar 14, 2013 - 11:57
 
I grew up on live versions and have to say that this is one of their studio tracks that pales in comparison. This one just seems to draaaaag relative to live versions

mitchscott
Posted: Apr 09, 2012 - 09:28
 
 tkosh wrote:


so true!
 



cohifi
(Denver)
Posted: May 15, 2011 - 21:12
 
 BlueHeronDruid wrote:
I'm guessing this is one of those "you had to be there" moments.
 


Not necessarily

tkosh
(Minnesota)
Posted: May 15, 2011 - 21:10
 
 jerrieberrie wrote:
Hi Fred,

I'm not taking offense as a deadhead but it is pretty easy to see why you don't get it.   If you've hit mute, you just can't hear it.  

The Dead are in most cases an acquired taste (that being neither good nor bad) but if you don't give it a chance or two or three, you probably won't ever appreciate any part of it.   IMO there's a lot more to it than drugs or having to have been there.  We all seek different things from music and it may be that you are looking for more or less than the Deads' introspection and musings offer.  These are stories, exercises, essays- if you will.  For some of us, their reflections  "get" to the core of life and existance and our thoughts and experiences as human beings.
 
btw, I enjoy your comments on RP.

tkosh:
What a great description.  I was only part way there for the Dead, but enjoy their music tremendously.  To me it's like jazz—once you get the groove, it just gets in your blood, right to your heart.  And that just doesn't seem to go away.
 
 


cohifi
(Denver)
Posted: May 15, 2011 - 21:08
 
 BlueHeronDruid wrote:
I'm guessing this is one of those "you had to be there" moments.
 


Not necessary

BlueHeronDruid
Posted: May 15, 2011 - 21:05
 
I'm guessing this is one of those "you had to be there" moments.

jerrieberrie
(Omaha)
Posted: Apr 14, 2011 - 09:19
 
Hi Fred,

I'm not taking offense as a deadhead but it is pretty easy to see why you don't get it.   If you've hit mute, you just can't hear it.  

The Dead are in most cases an acquired taste (that being neither good nor bad) but if you don't give it a chance or two or three, you probably won't ever appreciate any part of it.   IMO there's a lot more to it than drugs or having to have been there.  We all seek different things from music and it may be that you are looking for more or less than the Deads' introspection and musings offer.  These are stories, exercises, essays- if you will.  For some of us, their reflections  "get" to the core of life and existance and our thoughts and experiences as human beings.
 
btw, I enjoy your comments on RP.

 fredriley wrote:
This starts, so I hit mute, listen to two tracks on iTunes, go answer the phone and spend 5 minutes on the conversation, come back, and this lot are still  feckin' going. How long is this blasted toon anyway?

I don't get the thing about the Dead and drugs. Back in the day when I smoked grass like there was no tomorrow, this would have been seriously excruciating to listen to when I was high. The thing about blow is that it magnifies your appreciation of physical sensation, particularly hearing, and the thought of the Dead ten times as ear-mangling is frightening. Maybe I should have been strapped down, made to smoke stiff spliffs, then had the Dead played at me for ten hours straight. That would have been some serious aversion therapy and would have kept me off blow for life.

I know, ya hadda be there, but I wasn't so don't get it at all. Kudos to RP for mixing up oldies with 'newies', but sometimes oldies just don't travel through time well, and the Dead are such a group. IMHO, naturally, and no offence intended to Deadheads, stoned or straight :*)

 



fredriley
(Nottingham, UK)
Posted: Apr 14, 2011 - 07:28
 
This starts, so I hit mute, listen to two tracks on iTunes, go answer the phone and spend 5 minutes on the conversation, come back, and this lot are still  feckin' going. How long is this blasted toon anyway?

I don't get the thing about the Dead and drugs. Back in the day when I smoked grass like there was no tomorrow, this would have been seriously excruciating to listen to when I was high. The thing about blow is that it magnifies your appreciation of physical sensation, particularly hearing, and the thought of the Dead ten times as ear-mangling is frightening. Maybe I should have been strapped down, made to smoke stiff spliffs, then had the Dead played at me for ten hours straight. That would have been some serious aversion therapy and would have kept me off blow for life.

I know, ya hadda be there, but I wasn't so don't get it at all. Kudos to RP for mixing up oldies with 'newies', but sometimes oldies just don't travel through time well, and the Dead are such a group. IMHO, naturally, and no offence intended to Deadheads, stoned or straight :*)


jerrieberrie
(Omaha)
Posted: Apr 14, 2011 - 07:17
 

This is so good for me today.   I've been called worse than a "Deadhead."



parttime
(Kona Hawaii)
Posted: Mar 13, 2011 - 20:16
 
Thr road take's one more off into the sunset...  RIP Bear

gatorade
(Ocean Park, WA)
Posted: Mar 13, 2011 - 20:08
 
RIP "Bear".

LongGoneDaddy
Posted: Feb 10, 2011 - 11:31
 
Granfaloons of the Dead.  Franklin Hoenikker.

netstv
(On the east side of the bay)
Posted: Feb 10, 2011 - 11:30
 
Today is just strange.  I'm not really a Dead Head.  Growing up a love child I grew up listening to this and somehow I think I rebelled against this music.

But today... it's ok.

Maybe because I'm grown up now?  Who knows...

just saying.... 

vandal
(arriving somewhere, but not here. . .)
Posted: Jan 18, 2011 - 14:31
 
 Webfoot wrote:

It's not so much "hating" as just "not liking."  This is only "music that I don't prefer."  I find very little music that I hate outside of music promoting violence towards women, etc., which RP doesn't play anyway.  Within the context of what I hear RP playing, this is on the bottom end of the scale —- for me.  Bill sets the bar pretty high in general.  Maybe it's just the pop term "hater," which is mostly an exaggeration for clarity.  Don't take my opinion that seriously, as it just is what it is —- an opinion.  No offense is meant.  Maybe "hate" is the right term for some people, but all we can do is have compassion for them as they are just souls crying out for love.
 
Makes me wish that I had written this.  Well put.  

 

Bazooka
(Honolulu, HI USA)
Posted: Jan 10, 2011 - 04:43
 
Good Rhythm...Whatever to the rest of the constant diatribes. 

meuks
Posted: Jan 10, 2011 - 04:40
 
So sweet....

Webfoot
(Eugene, Oregon)
Posted: Dec 09, 2010 - 15:14
 
 sans wrote:
Wow, surprised at the hating. Best American band of all time, this is a 9 and if it was live it would be a 10.

 
It's not so much "hating" as just "not liking."  This is only "music that I don't prefer."  I find very little music that I hate outside of music promoting violence towards women, etc., which RP doesn't play anyway.  Within the context of what I hear RP playing, this is on the bottom end of the scale —- for me.  Bill sets the bar pretty high in general.  Maybe it's just the pop term "hater," which is mostly an exaggeration for clarity.  Don't take my opinion that seriously, as it just is what it is —- an opinion.  No offense is meant.  Maybe "hate" is the right term for some people, but all we can do is have compassion for them as they are just souls crying out for love.

RedGuitar
(Iowa, USA)
Posted: Dec 09, 2010 - 14:46
 
 Otomi wrote:
Here's an interesting article about a study that ranks drugs by overall harm caused:

{#Nyah}

Alcohol was found to be at the top of the harm ranking, psychedelics way down at the bottom.

 


 
I read somewhere about psilocybe mushrooms being very gentle on the human system.  Fits with your statement.


Otomi
(La orilla de la civilización)
Posted: Dec 09, 2010 - 14:36
 
 black321 wrote:
Honestly, why do the dead get banged around so much with the drug jokes? What rock band out of the 60s/70s (and for the 80s, 90s, 00s) didnt have a drug issue...and the same for its fan base? Clapton and all his bands, the Stones, Beatles, Who...or is it just a bias against psychedelics?

  Here's an article about a study that ranks drugs by overall harm caused:

{#Nyah}

Alcohol was found to be at the top of the harm ranking, psychedelics way down at the bottom.



claya
Posted: Dec 09, 2010 - 14:35
 
I guess if you haven't gotten it already your not going to....but I love the dead. The dead culture,  I could take it or leave it.... ooooh but that smooth groove and warm vibe. Miss you Jerry.  Two from the Vault, Good Morning Little School Girl.... good stuff.


black321
(Apogee)
Posted: Dec 09, 2010 - 14:32
 
 krich58 wrote:
Folks, that ain't noodling,In musical terms it's called a "progression."

It's clear that not all folks hear what the Dead offered musically, which isn't my concern. However, not all Deadheads are stoners. Sure, some of their shows sucked. But the Dead went on stage to perform, not to regurgitate a preset list of canned songs. Like a good sports team, they were there play by play. And sometimes they got sacked.

I remember when this album came out—couldn't play it loud enough. Very stoked to hear it here...
 



I like that last comment...good analogy.

vandal
(arriving somewhere, but not here. . .)
Posted: Dec 09, 2010 - 14:31
 
mute

freeone1
(naru island, nagasaki, japan)
Posted: Dec 09, 2010 - 14:31
 
...and now this?  what a morning!!!!  fantastico!

johnjconn
(chicago land)
Posted: Dec 09, 2010 - 14:28
 
 repeat108 wrote:
Absolutely some of the best music ever to grace the universe......peace and kindness

 
You expect me to believe this is better than the 1967 release of the Archie's album "Sugar Sugar"
Really
Hard to imagine



bam23
(Berkeley)
Posted: Dec 09, 2010 - 14:28
 
In many respects this song, and the album, were a sort of change in their approach to music. I find this song to be one of their more compelling compositions. Garcia's guitar has a gentle but insistently pulsing drive.

repeat108
(Ridgway, CO 81432)
Posted: Nov 07, 2010 - 19:47
 
Absolutely some of the best music ever to grace the universe......peace and kindness


black321
(Apogee)
Posted: Oct 07, 2010 - 07:24
 
Honestly, why do the dead get banged around so much with the drug jokes? What rock band out of the 60s/70s (and for the 80s, 90s, 00s) didnt have a drug issue...and the same for its fan base? Clapton and all his bands, the Stones, Beatles, Who...or is it just a bias against psychedelics?


h8rhater
Posted: Oct 07, 2010 - 07:22
 
Never heard so many crybabies in one place.  At least back-in-the-day the drugs of choice weren't depressants like these folks must be taking.

Thanks Bill for playing this great loooonnnnngg-running classic!!!!

krich58
(SCruz)
Posted: Oct 07, 2010 - 07:21
 
Folks, that ain't noodling,In musical terms it's called a "progression."

It's clear that not all folks hear what the Dead offered musically, which isn't my concern. However, not all Deadheads are stoners. Sure, some of their shows sucked. But the Dead went on stage to perform, not to regurgitate a preset list of canned songs. Like a good sports team, they were there play by play. And sometimes they got sacked.

I remember when this album came out—couldn't play it loud enough. Very stoked to hear it here...

More_Cowbell
(Northern IL)
Posted: Oct 07, 2010 - 07:20
 
Excelent cap (Franklin's Tower!)  Strong 8!

Frater_Kork
(Uppsala, Sweden)
Posted: Oct 07, 2010 - 07:20
 

Mmmm, this makes me pine for a warm bowl of noodles.
PS. I dig the Dead, but they do tend to noodle a bit ;-)

vesta0424
Posted: Oct 07, 2010 - 07:16
 
Love the Dead, hate this.  Turning off Radio Paradise now.  Good bye.



ick
(S.E. La Jolla)
Posted: Aug 04, 2010 - 07:11
 
Fortunately, this doesn't happen too often.  Noodling, and more noodling.  Might be fun if your tripping on acid with a bunch of other like-minded individuals but IMO, it sucks.

justin4kick
(The Netherlands)
Posted: Aug 04, 2010 - 07:08
 

My first {#Puke}ever! Oooh what a relief!



fredriley
(Nottingham, UK)
Posted: Aug 04, 2010 - 07:07
 
'Kinell - are they still going? Boy, you sure got value out of the Dead with tracks that long. Good news if you're a Deadhead, bad for the rest of us. Yeesh!

RedGuitar
(Iowa, USA)
Posted: Aug 04, 2010 - 07:07
 
 sans wrote:
Wow, surprised at the hating. Best American band of all time, this is a 9 and if it was live it would be a 10.

 
Sorry, can't agree with ya there.  Maybe one of the best, I don't know.  Who do I pick as best American band?
Little Feat comes to mind - for their musical expertise alone.  The Jimi Hendrix Experience (he was born in the U.S.), The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers, ...
Too many years to cover - better to pick best band from each decade.


ronniegirl
(Middle of New Jersey)
Posted: Aug 04, 2010 - 07:04
 
This reminds me of all the Dead shows I was dragged to in the 70s, and all the great naps I got to take.

FlatCat
(Chicago)
Posted: Jul 03, 2010 - 10:05
 
Love some of the GD tunes and the whole gestalt. But I never understood the long guitar noodles. They only seem pedestrian and awkward to me. Puts me off from much of their music.

Canlistener
(Ontario Canada)
Posted: Jun 01, 2010 - 14:44
 
 sans wrote:
Wow, surprised at the hating. Best American band of all time, this is a 9 and if it was live it would be a 10.
 
Best American band of all time?  Sorry Sans, you like them, that's cool.  But to make a claim like that for a group of hippies that made a career of having pot heads follow them around like sheep, quite a stretch I'd say.  Cheers

SuzG
(at my desk)
Posted: Jun 01, 2010 - 14:22
 
Sometimes their shows or parts of them could be stinkers.  If the commenter saw a show right before the diabetic coma, uh... who knows?  But I don't go see live music to see someone play an album note for note though.  I'd rather see them experiment and fail than try to play exactly what they played in the studio. 

sans
(Philly)
Posted: Jun 01, 2010 - 14:09
 
Wow, surprised at the hating. Best American band of all time, this is a 9 and if it was live it would be a 10.


Webfoot
(Eugene, Oregon)
Posted: Jun 01, 2010 - 14:09
 
 Stefen wrote:
My speakers have been muted so long I forgot what they're for.  Get this overwith.
 

I should have muted earlier.  {#Eh}

gratefulgator
(San Francisco CA)
Posted: Jun 01, 2010 - 14:08
 
 hippiechick wrote:
What does a Deadhead say when he quits drinking?
"Man that music sucks!" (Compliments of my brother, a lifelong Deadhead)
 
I don't think alcohol is generally the substance of choice among deadheads...  {#Cowboy}



sans
(Philly)
Posted: Jun 01, 2010 - 14:07
 
 Stefen wrote:
My speakers have been muted so long I forgot what they're for.  Get this overwith.
 
If you plant ice you're gonna harvest wind.


Stefen
(West Hollywood, CA)
Posted: Jun 01, 2010 - 14:07
 
My speakers have been muted so long I forgot what they're for.  Get this overwith.