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A dreaded sunny day
So I meet you at the cemetry gates
Keats and Yeats are on your side
A dreaded sunny day
So I meet you at the cemetry gates
Keats and Yeats are on your side
While Wilde is on mine
So we go inside and we gravely read the stones
All those people, all those lives
Where are they now?
With loves and hates
And passions just like mine
They were born
And then they lived
And then they died
Seems so unfair
I want to cry
You say: "Ere thrice the sun hath done
salutation to the dawn"
And you claim these words as your own
But I've read well and I've heard them said
A hundred times (maybe less, maybe more)
If you must write prose or poems
The words you use should be your own
Don't plagiarise or take 'on loan'
There's always someone, somewhere
With a big nose who knows
And who trips you up and laughs
When you fall
Who'll trip you up and laugh
When you fall
You say: "Ere long done do does did"
Words which could only be your own
And then produce the text
From whence was ripped
'Some dizzy whore', 1804
A dreaded sunny day
So let's go where we're happy
And I meet you at the cemetry gates
Oh Keats and Yeats are on your side
A dreaded sunny day
So let's go where we're wanted
And I meet you at the cemetry gates
Keats and Yeats are on your side
But you lose
'Cause weird lover Wilde is on mine
(sugar)
So I meet you at the cemetry gates
Keats and Yeats are on your side
A dreaded sunny day
So I meet you at the cemetry gates
Keats and Yeats are on your side
While Wilde is on mine
So we go inside and we gravely read the stones
All those people, all those lives
Where are they now?
With loves and hates
And passions just like mine
They were born
And then they lived
And then they died
Seems so unfair
I want to cry
You say: "Ere thrice the sun hath done
salutation to the dawn"
And you claim these words as your own
But I've read well and I've heard them said
A hundred times (maybe less, maybe more)
If you must write prose or poems
The words you use should be your own
Don't plagiarise or take 'on loan'
There's always someone, somewhere
With a big nose who knows
And who trips you up and laughs
When you fall
Who'll trip you up and laugh
When you fall
You say: "Ere long done do does did"
Words which could only be your own
And then produce the text
From whence was ripped
'Some dizzy whore', 1804
A dreaded sunny day
So let's go where we're happy
And I meet you at the cemetry gates
Oh Keats and Yeats are on your side
A dreaded sunny day
So let's go where we're wanted
And I meet you at the cemetry gates
Keats and Yeats are on your side
But you lose
'Cause weird lover Wilde is on mine
(sugar)
| hanssachs (Hawaii) | Posted: Apr 23, 2013 - 00:46 Another Smiths song that runs the emotional (and musical) gamut from A to C ... |
| robotbass (Boston Area) | Posted: Mar 22, 2013 - 13:21 Okay, I am changing the station now knowing full well that music taste is subjective. |
| Lazarus (Bethany) | Posted: Mar 22, 2013 - 13:18 Everybody in my church be dancing to this marvelous song... love it... |
| siskinbob (United Kingdom) | Posted: Feb 19, 2013 - 03:05 Drone.....Drone...... Drone.... |
| jocelynsart | Posted: Jan 18, 2013 - 19:20 Ok, wow, sounded like the BNL lead singer (being played on RP!? no way!) love them - had to check - ah, the Smiths |
| ziakut (Slightly North of Obvlivion) | Posted: Dec 18, 2012 - 10:46 Pretty good Smiths tune. Just not in the mood for it right now I guess. Meet you at the symmetry gates. |
| lily34 (lexvegas) | Posted: Jun 12, 2012 - 15:29 warderblu wrote: This is so Mint! ![]() |
| warderblu | Posted: Mar 09, 2012 - 10:34 This is so Mint! |
| olivertwist (Atlanta GA) | Posted: Nov 03, 2011 - 13:27 "And then produce the text From whence was ripped Some dizzy whore, 1804" That last line cracks me up, especially the way Morrissey delivers it with that drawl of his. |
| gemtag (Texas) | Posted: Nov 03, 2011 - 13:01 Love the Smiths. Any song with Keats and Yates in it rates in my book. |
| (former member) (hotel in Las Vegas) | Posted: Oct 02, 2011 - 23:16 Everybody in my hotel room be dancing to this marvelous song... |
| (former member) (hotel in Las Vegas) | Posted: Jun 30, 2011 - 18:32 dkeifer wrote: clever music, love the smiths I agree... we be dancing... love it... |
| dkeifer | Posted: Apr 28, 2011 - 14:09 clever music, love the smiths |
| GuiltyFeat | Posted: Jan 24, 2011 - 05:59 While Wilde is on mine. Perfect jingle jangle pop by the greatest band/songwriting pair of the past 30 years. Before you start arguing, remember there's always someone, somewhere with a big nose who knows. In this instance, it's me. |
| sirdroseph (Yes) | Posted: Nov 22, 2010 - 04:20 Great song! The Smiths at their retro Brit Indie best! |
| nerakdon (Colorado) | Posted: Oct 21, 2010 - 12:09 I highly doubt that Yates is on my side. He was Illuminati. -_- |
| Proclivities (Carrboro, NC) | Posted: Aug 23, 2010 - 05:59 daedalus wrote: The Smiths were musically great and vocally embarrassing. Embarrassing to whom? Maybe you've spent too much time in that labyrinth of yours. |
| spigolli (Peachtree City, GA, USA) | Posted: Aug 18, 2010 - 18:25 Dude should sing on Broadway |
| dedawson (You never know where you're going til you get there) | Posted: Jul 17, 2010 - 20:06 crockydile wrote: Automatic 2 for a song with him singing. I wouldn't be that generous. |
| bluedot (Long Beach, CA) | Posted: Jun 15, 2010 - 23:23 crockydile wrote: Automatic 2 for a song with him singing. lol |
| crockydile (Outer Spiral Arm, Milky Way) | Posted: Apr 13, 2010 - 10:06 Automatic 2 for a song with him singing. |
| Bosami (Deep in the heart of nowhere) | Posted: Dec 08, 2009 - 11:00 DigitalJer wrote: All cred to DrLex: I think expecting Radio Paradise to have a playlist of 8 billion songs, or even 8 million songs, is quite a bit of lack of perspective. Do you ever come out in the real world? Even in my country where FM radio doesn't suck as hard as in the US, you'll hear the same song multiple times a day unless you'd go working, shopping and dining while wearing industrial ear protection. Because you seem to like numbers, here's some mathematics. Suppose a station has a playlist of 10000 songs. I have no idea how many songs the active playlist of RP has, but this seems reasonable, especially in the light of the following assumption. Suppose this station is run by DJ Random, who gives every song a number between 1 to 10000 and uses a perfect random number generator to pick the next song. Suppose you listen to 120 songs this way (at an average of 4 minutes per song, that would take 8 hours). The birthday paradox says that in this case (see simulation below), there's a 50% chance that you'll hear the same song twice in this time span! For a playlist of 50000 songs, the 50% chance of repetition is already reached at approx. 250 picks, not the expected 600. Of course, while many radio streams work this way, on RP this is not how it's done — luckily. First of all, Bill avoids the horrible transitions that DJ Random would produce, by combining songs that actually belong together. This reduces the amount of randomness, but of course Bill has a memory and will try to avoid repeating the same song often. To minimize repetition, he would need to create an ideal sequence of all songs once, and repeat this eternally. But that would become boring too, so as a compromise and to keep managing RP tractable, Bill recycles 'stretches' of playlist, slowly mutating them and discarding them after a while. And Bill is only human, so he'll play the songs that he likes a little bit more often than others. I wasted some of my time telling this story to show that things can be a whole lot worse, and I believe RP comes damn close to an ideal radio station. You just have to accept the fact that ideality doesn't exist and that some of the songs you don't like will be played, and repeated after a while. Awesome (and impressive) breakdown. ![]() |
| kaybee (Lost in the Wilds of Toronto) | Posted: Oct 06, 2009 - 16:20 Sometimes Morrissey can be a bit of a dreary drawers, but the lyrics are often quite funny, like these: If you must write prose/poems The words you use should be your own Don't plagiarise or take "on loan" 'Cause there's always someone, somewhere With a big nose, who knows And who trips you up and laughs When you fall Who'll trip you up and laugh When you fall You say : "'Ere long done do does did" Words which could only be your own And then produce the text From whence was ripped (Some dizzy whore, 1804) |
| nate917 (2,815 miles from home) | Posted: Oct 06, 2009 - 13:41 DigitalJer wrote: All cred to DrLex: (pedantic probability explanation omitted) ...Bill has a memory and will try to avoid repeating the same song often.... He also tries to avoid repeating the same artist often. You know, like Morrissey twice in four hours. Hence my message. |
| DigitalJer (Edmonton, Alberta, Canada) | Posted: Oct 06, 2009 - 12:46 nate917 wrote: We just heard Smiths four hours ago. I guess it's Drama Queen Day in Paradise. All cred to DrLex: I think expecting Radio Paradise to have a playlist of 8 billion songs, or even 8 million songs, is quite a bit of lack of perspective. Do you ever come out in the real world? Even in my country where FM radio doesn't suck as hard as in the US, you'll hear the same song multiple times a day unless you'd go working, shopping and dining while wearing industrial ear protection. Because you seem to like numbers, here's some mathematics. Suppose a station has a playlist of 10000 songs. I have no idea how many songs the active playlist of RP has, but this seems reasonable, especially in the light of the following assumption. Suppose this station is run by DJ Random, who gives every song a number between 1 to 10000 and uses a perfect random number generator to pick the next song. Suppose you listen to 120 songs this way (at an average of 4 minutes per song, that would take 8 hours). The birthday paradox says that in this case (see simulation below), there's a 50% chance that you'll hear the same song twice in this time span! For a playlist of 50000 songs, the 50% chance of repetition is already reached at approx. 250 picks, not the expected 600. Of course, while many radio streams work this way, on RP this is not how it's done — luckily. First of all, Bill avoids the horrible transitions that DJ Random would produce, by combining songs that actually belong together. This reduces the amount of randomness, but of course Bill has a memory and will try to avoid repeating the same song often. To minimize repetition, he would need to create an ideal sequence of all songs once, and repeat this eternally. But that would become boring too, so as a compromise and to keep managing RP tractable, Bill recycles 'stretches' of playlist, slowly mutating them and discarding them after a while. And Bill is only human, so he'll play the songs that he likes a little bit more often than others. I wasted some of my time telling this story to show that things can be a whole lot worse, and I believe RP comes damn close to an ideal radio station. You just have to accept the fact that ideality doesn't exist and that some of the songs you don't like will be played, and repeated after a while. |
| nate917 (2,815 miles from home) | Posted: Oct 06, 2009 - 12:38 We just heard Smiths four hours ago. I guess it's Drama Queen Day in Paradise. |
| lmic (Narrow Minded Couch Potato) | Posted: Aug 04, 2009 - 12:07 Always reminds me of the teeny-bopper Goths hanging out at Evergreen Cemetery in Santa Cruz as I would walk past, to work, in the mid-80s. Actually, they were kind of frightening. |
| stescott100 | Posted: May 01, 2009 - 06:49 'Some Dippy Whore 1804' always makes me laugh |
| moshevelvul (or velocity?) | Posted: Mar 30, 2009 - 17:41 erf - mildly melodic whining..... |
| jjbix (san diego) | Posted: Jan 26, 2009 - 15:12 what stinky fish fails to tell us was that he was 14 when he kept beating up the 5th grader. Roverfish wrote: Sorry, Morrissey just reminds me of that kid I continually beat the crap out of in 5th grade. Ho hum. |
| holborne (New York) | Posted: Nov 24, 2008 - 10:12 Catalytic wrote: Which speaks volumes about your pathetic existence. Every bully I've every known has been a miserable excuse for humanity, badly overcompensating for their blatant inadequacies by inflicting physical violence on their betters. Kind of like the chimps at the zoo who's only recourse to their pathetic state is fling their poo around. Go back to daydreaming about your glory days of high school football, Roverfish, and let the rest of us with IQs above room temperature enjoy our music in peace. This is basically my favorite post on RP, ever. |
| holborne (New York) | Posted: Nov 24, 2008 - 10:12 daedalus wrote: The Smiths were musically great and vocally embarrassing. That's just stupid. |
| daedalus (over your hill) | Posted: Oct 23, 2008 - 21:19 The Smiths were musically great and vocally embarrassing. |
| prickelpit96 (Hannover, Germany) | Posted: Jul 21, 2008 - 00:47 aragon wrote: This is a pop gem. Perfection is not enough to describe it. As the bard would say:"Caviar for the common people". Long Live The Smiths!
well said, aragon. |
| ksb (Oakland, CA) | Posted: Jun 19, 2008 - 12:08 aragon wrote: This is a pop gem. Perfection is not enough to describe it. As the bard would say:"Caviar for the common people". Long Live The Smiths!
Good point, ever had cheap Caviar? It's terrible, not worth having unless you pay for the good stuff. Morrissey is just like that - a hideous imitation of the real thing. It's no wonder that most Morrissey fans these days are those who fondly remember it from their youth - before they developed a discriminating taste! |
| Droidac (Kitchener, Ontario) | Posted: Jun 19, 2008 - 11:57 Roverfish wrote: Sorry, Morrissey just reminds me of that kid I continually beat the crap out of in 5th grade. Ho hum.
Well, I guess admitting that you are an ass is the first step towards recovery! |
| Catalytic (Calgary, Alberta, Canada) | Posted: Jun 19, 2008 - 11:54 Roverfish wrote: Sorry, Morrissey just reminds me of that kid I continually beat the crap out of in 5th grade. Ho hum.
Which speaks volumes about your pathetic existence. Every bully I've every known has been a miserable excuse for humanity, badly overcompensating for their blatant inadequacies by inflicting physical violence on their betters. Kind of like the chimps at the zoo who's only recourse to their pathetic state is fling their poo around. Go back to daydreaming about your glory days of high school football, Roverfish, and let the rest of us with IQs above room temperature enjoy our music in peace. |
| Gednabb (New York City) | Posted: Jun 19, 2008 - 11:50 memories from high school. This was a favorite. My mom used to call Morrissey "Johnny One-Note" |
| aragon (West Lafayette) | Posted: Apr 10, 2008 - 07:08 This is a pop gem. Perfection is not enough to describe it. As the bard would say:"Caviar for the common people". Long Live The Smiths! |
| hedda | Posted: Feb 14, 2008 - 14:55 Roverfish wrote: Sorry, Morrissey just reminds me of that kid I continually beat the crap out of in 5th grade. Ho hum.
gee, i wonder how much more money morrisey makes than the bully?? |
| davin (Victoria, British Columbia) | Posted: Feb 14, 2008 - 14:53 Roverfish wrote: Sorry, Morrissey just reminds me of that kid I continually beat the crap out of in 5th grade. Ho hum.
You sound like an idiot, so this story is plausible. |
| youngj (Canton, GA) | Posted: Feb 14, 2008 - 14:53 The Smiths are like M&Ms. You can't go wrong. |
| fredriley (Nottingham, UK) | Posted: Jan 14, 2008 - 03:36 Roverfish wrote: Sorry, Morrissey just reminds me of that kid I continually beat the crap out of in 5th grade. Ho hum.
Maybe he was a kid who had the crap beaten out of him at school - that would explain his miserableness. I too had the crap beaten out of me at school and was pretty f*cking miserable until my 30s as a direct result ;-| Not the best Smiths number, but still worth a 5. |
| Darkmatter (Sweden) | Posted: Nov 12, 2007 - 08:26 Roverfish wrote: Sorry, Morrissey just reminds me of that kid I continually beat the crap out of in 5th grade. Ho hum.
Well, aren't you the manly man! I guess bullys aren't supposed to like the Smiths anyway, so there. I can imagine what Kurt Cobain felt when he discovered the same type of bullies who beat him up in school turned up at Nirvana concerts. |
| Wizzuvvoz (Land of Nod. East of Eden on Route 66.) | Posted: Nov 12, 2007 - 08:22 Who gets the honors of being first emo? For some reason that question just popped into my mind. |
| Roverfish (Tucson, AZ - Thanks for visiting...now go home!) | Posted: Oct 11, 2007 - 22:35 Sorry, Morrissey just reminds me of that kid I continually beat the crap out of in 5th grade. Ho hum. |
| MojoJojo (Indianapolis, IN USA) | Posted: Jul 09, 2007 - 13:36 Just for the record; I dont hate this band, and I love(d) MST3K (at least the Joel era). dolfan wrote: I get how people hate this band, but I really quite like them. MST 3K once had a hilarious skit about Morrisey and his angst, and they were right. Still, The Smiths had many good songs and albums and this is, besides being a pretty upbeat song (for them), a good song and the lyrics have a clever and humorous slant to them. Hate away, but as for me, I will keep listening.
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| prickelpit96 (Hannover, Germany) | Posted: Jun 08, 2007 - 05:17 Of course they're very 'British'! They were the my perfect guitarheroes in my teenager-years in the 80's. Bought every album, listened permanently to them and drove my parents nuts. |
| Mari (île de lesvos) | Posted: Apr 22, 2007 - 00:41 cemetery gates I like ![]() |
| tiggers | Posted: Apr 06, 2007 - 05:46 swoles wrote: can anyone think of a band that people love/hate more than this one? (i happen to love them-but i'm not mad if you hate em)
As I said on another thread I think they are very 'British' and a lot of America just won't get them. For a start the lyrics to many of their songs are actually quite clever and ironic whereas if they'd written about spouses leaving, pets dying or their Chevy giving up Ameria may just have taken them to heart |



