I couldn't agree more. It's refreshing to hear DM's voice and songwriting backed by musicians who aren't trying to play beyond their respective technical abilities. Sorry DMB members and fans but, nearly every time I hear a live recording of DMB, I notice that the drummer is playing too far forward, timing is a bit off (or worse) and at least one other member of the band is dragging the tempo down. The live recording of "Stay" is a prime example. This is high school band stuff. Still in all, I appreciate hearing Dave Matthews, as his music is intelligent and um, a bit eclectic in its combination of styles.

Absolute brilliant musician with own style & substance.

Please stop playing Dave Matthews

Make the...torture stop...no more Dave Matthews please...

 davedog wrote: 

Wonder what brings this song back after 6 years.  

While I do enjoy some of Dave Matthew's stuff, I've noticed something over the years.  His stuff is "lowest common denominator" music.  When I get together with a bunch of people who may not know each other that well, and someone says "how about some music?", seems like the choice is often DM.  Safe, most people like him well enough.  Not exactly a ringing endorsement, however.  

Absolute brilliant musician with own style & substance.

Latest fad going on 17 years... maybe you should get out of Amerind more often there Kirok.

Huh? You must not be a drummer, and you probably haven't heard Carter Beauford play much, I guess. The guy is a genius. Incredibly technically proficient.

Buy or rent "Under the Table and Drumming" which is one of Carter's instructional videos. I am a drummer with 20+ years of experience, and oftentimes I've thought I'd heard overdubbed drum parts on several DMB albums,thinking there is no way (physically,) to play the parts.

But seeing the video, you finally see how Carter can do these seemingly impossible parts by himself, which he often does live. (One-handed, single stroke rolls, anyone?) I will confess that I couldn't even ATTEMPT something like that, and that my two-handed single stroke rolls probably sound worse than his one-handeds.

I suppose what I appreciate most from Carter (via the videos adn various interviews I've read,) is the fact that he still considers himself to be a humble student, learning from other legendary drummers past and present. I bet you'd be pretty hard pressed to find another "rock star" with this sort of outlook. Anyway, I guess we all take our inspiration wherever we can get it, so I will continue to listen to (and learn from,) Carter and a slew of other drummers from different times and places.

I get enough DM on the radio around here. Then to hear him twice in a couple of hours on RP is too much. I agree that he is overrated and overplayed. IMO, he's just the latest in the fad of irritatingly mellow, subdued formula pop.
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Absolute brilliant musician with own style & substance.

Extreme no 1:You must enjoy anything that gets mainstream air time.
Extreme no 2:You must loathe anything that gets mainstream air time.

That's red state and blue state America, respectively...

The orchestral crescendo at the end is especially laughable and desparate.

I couldn't agree more. It's refreshing to hear DM's voice and songwriting backed by musicians who aren't trying to play beyond their respective technical abilities. Sorry DMB members and fans but, nearly every time I hear a live recording of DMB, I notice that the drummer is playing too far forward, timing is a bit off (or worse) and at least one other member of the band is dragging the tempo down. The live recording of "Stay" is a prime example. This is high school band stuff. Still in all, I appreciate hearing Dave Matthews, as his music is intelligent and um, a bit eclectic in its combination of styles.

Extreme no 1:You must enjoy anything that gets mainstream air time.
Extreme no 2:You must loathe anything that gets mainstream air time.

It's a shame if anything gets played to death, but when you only judge a song by where it gets played then you're gonna miss out.

Awesome song from the best Dave Matthews album yet. This song in peticular really grows on you, as does the whole album. The string arrangement and orchestration at the end of the song is brilliant! Dave just keeps getting better and better.

Here's someone who refines OVER-RATED. Please do not play him anymore. This is what mainstream radio is for.

Finally...a DM song I dig !

I really dig this album. I also have no problem with the frequency of DM being played here...it's funny that I like pretty mich every single song that Bill plays (that you!)...some of you more critical folks need to ease up a bit and "enjoy the music!"

No offense is intended...I just dont understand the amount of negative comments...and not just on DM stuff...I thought a station like this would be listened to by music lovers...

Sean

I haven't seen a majority of people here that don't like it. If it means that much to you, then you don't have to listen.

Are you kidding me? Carter Beauford is one of the best drummers around, and I'm not a DMB fan at all.

Otherwise, no matter what the majority want, they will keep shoving dave Matthews down our throats. Thank you so much!

Sorry DMB members and fans but, nearly every time I hear a live recording of DMB, I notice that the drummer is playing too far forward, timing is a bit off (or worse) and at least one other member of the band is dragging the tempo down.