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RobRyan
(Canyon Country, CA)
Posted: Feb 21, 2011 - 07:10
 

 ckcotton wrote:

Thats pretty funny..... they wern't talking about the Dead at all....

"Well I heard mister Young sing about her
Well, I heard ole Neil put her down
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
A Southern man don't need him around anyhow"

Reminds me of a friend who thought Steve Miller was singing about, "Big o'l Jed and Lionel" (Jet Airliner)
 
Um, you might try looking up the word "paraphrase."

LongGoneDaddy
Posted: Sep 16, 2010 - 11:35
 

 calypsus_1 wrote:

Grateful Dead - "So Many Roads" Live in Las Vegas (1994):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfGD94CchJU

"This is one of the monumental Jerry ballads from the later years"


  that's great!  Hard to find a good video of Lazy River Road, though...



tapatia1072
Posted: Jul 14, 2010 - 13:16
 

{#Dancingbanana_2} {#Dancingbanana}{#Bounce}{#Bounce}{#Dance}

SmileOnADog
(Arizona)
Posted: Mar 09, 2010 - 14:39
 

 jagdriver wrote:

Except that the Pranksters took the legendary bus trip to the New York World's Fair in '64 and dropped in on Dr. Tim's tripping headquarters as long as they were nearby and both camps shared a mutual fondness for Mr. Owsley. Unfortunately, Kesey and Leary had completely different ideas as to how Owley's gift to the world should best be utilized. The former thought "anytime, anywhere," and "more is more." The later treated it with more respect, given that many who saw the light were ultimately vaporized by same. 

A great read on all that is "Storming Heaven".  Even the good Dr. Leary and the Millbrook crowd got stridently messianic and lost a certain necessary perspective after just plain too many sessions.  All those clowns kind of poisoned the well for everyone, its taken like 30 years and a lot of uphill legal, political, and scientific battles by truly dedicated groups like MAPS to get the work of Stan Grof and the other _real_ consciousness researchers restarted.



ckcotton
Posted: Mar 09, 2010 - 14:24
 

 loanking wrote:

I think I speak for most Deadheads who didn't go to school in the 80's but more like the 70's and 60's when I paraphrase Lynard Skynard form Sweet Home  Alabama. "A dead fan don't need you around anyhow."

Great band, great song. Keep up the good work.


 
Thats pretty funny..... they wern't talking about the Dead at all....

"Well I heard mister Young sing about her
Well, I heard ole Neil put her down
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
A Southern man don't need him around anyhow"

Reminds me of a friend who thought Steve Miller was singing about, "Big o'l Jed and Lionel" (Jet Airliner)


raewah
(Somewhere where the mountains meet the plains)
Posted: Mar 09, 2010 - 14:19
 

 ckcotton wrote:

Same for me... then I heard "One from the Vault" and the whole world changed..... just amazing!

 
Franklin's on One From the Vault is a 10 all the way!


raewah
(Somewhere where the mountains meet the plains)
Posted: Mar 09, 2010 - 14:18
 

 erichb wrote:


If you think deadheads are bad, you should have spent some time around Phishheads.  They made deadheads a joy to be around.
 
True DAT!


crockydile
(Outer Spiral Arm, Milky Way)
Posted: Mar 09, 2010 - 14:17
 

Not such a good song, is it? {#Ask}

ckcotton
Posted: Mar 09, 2010 - 14:16
 

 Mugro wrote:

I must have been a Reverse "Touch Head" then. I initially thought that the Dead sucked because all I knew was Touch of Grey. I was about 15 when that song was released as a single. Little did I know that the song had been performed live for years before that. Once I listened to the concert stuff, I was hooked. It took a bit to overcome listening to Touch of Grey on every radio station for a while though.
 
Same for me... then I heard "One from the Vault" and the whole world changed..... just amazing!


gatorade
(Ocean Park, WA)
Posted: Jan 05, 2010 - 15:25
 

JERRY ME SOME MORE PLZ.

h8rhater
Posted: Dec 05, 2009 - 07:07
 

OMG this Damien guy is such a douche.  Grab a bag of stereotypes and SPEW them out fool.  Sounds to me like you know absolutely nothing about the Dead or dead heads.  You are just some tool who thinks he's being cute by flaming people he doesn't know on the web. You sound like the grumpy old man.  Surely there is some rock you can crawl back under.

 _Some_ people may have joined the Dead for the scene but they always stayed for the music.



h8rhater
Posted: Dec 05, 2009 - 07:02
 

 Bodhisattva wrote:
Physics genius, perhaps. Music moron, definitely. :iamwith:
 
I doubt this guy is a genius at anything.  You nailed him.


krich58
(SCruz)
Posted: Dec 05, 2009 - 06:56
 

This song just Barks SF '60s. That is the very sound! Well, this and the Airplane's Pillow.

What a funky album. I read that Jerry had a hard time listening to is after the fact, outta tune and all speed up. I love it.

calypsus_1
Posted: Oct 31, 2009 - 18:45
 


Grateful Dead - "So Many Roads" Live in Las Vegas (1994):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfGD94CchJU

"This is one of the monumental Jerry ballads from the later years"



Jersey_Joe
(Sparta NJ)
Posted: Oct 03, 2009 - 08:08
 

I love this tune.  Hey Hey

Sleepytyme
(Left Coast, California)
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 13:28
 

Great song great band...

krich58
(SCruz)
Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 13:25
 

The Golden Road...so many thanks.

gutboy
(hanging out in)
Posted: May 29, 2009 - 18:19
 

 damien wrote:

its like the joke goes;
Q: what did one Deadhead say to the other when they ran out of acid?
A: Man! this music BLOWS!
 

LOL  having been there (60s 70s) I disagree with almost everything Damien wrote. You had to be there.

yes the music did blow, but have you heard the shit on the air since then. nuf said.

loanking
Posted: Mar 27, 2009 - 13:29
 

I think I speak for most Deadheads who didn't go to school in the 80's but more like the 70's and 60's when I paraphrase Lynard Skynard form Sweet Home  Alabama. "A dead fan don't need you around anyhow."

Great band, great song. Keep up the good work.



Mugro
(Lane Village, Red Sox Nation)
Posted: Mar 27, 2009 - 13:18
 

 Jack_Jefferson wrote:


Having gone to college in the late 1980's/early 1990's, I'd have to say the majority of the "deadheads" I knew fit this profile. These same people were just looking for something to conform to. The vast majority were preppy in high school, voted for Reagan or Bush and belonged to a fraternity or sorority. They were into the dead simply for the material peripherals (drugs and clothes) and knew next to nothing about the music. Having said that, I enjoyed their music a lot at the time but did not identify myself as a deadhead mostly because I didn't want to be confused with the college-aged bandwagon deadheads.
 

I don't agree. I went to school in the same timeframe you speak of. Yes, I voted for Bush (both of them) and I would have voted for Reagan if I had been old enough.I used to hang around a lot of people who called themselves deadheads. I have been a Deadhead without the clothes or the drugs.  For me, it has always been about the music, not the scene. I have thousands of shows on tape and CD (and now MP3), but have only been to one show. I know their entire catalogue by heart and am looking forward to seeing the Dead in a few weeks (minus Jerry of course).

It is very hard to establish stereotypes because then you find that there are so many exceptions to the little stereotype construct that you have built....

AliGator
(Lex Vegas)
Posted: Feb 24, 2009 - 00:44
 

 Jack_Jefferson wrote:
Having gone to college in the late 1980's/early 1990's, I'd have to say the majority of the "deadheads" I knew fit this profile. These same people were just looking for something to conform to. The vast majority were preppy in high school, voted for Reagan or Bush and belonged to a fraternity or sorority. They were into the dead simply for the material peripherals (drugs and clothes) and knew next to nothing about the music. Having said that, I enjoyed their music a lot at the time but did not identify myself as a deadhead mostly because I didn't want to be confused with the college-aged bandwagon deadheads.
 
Wow. Most of the DeadHeads I knew in college didn't fit this stereotype. Some of the DeadHeads at my school belonged to a fraternity or sorority, but I'm not sure they voted for Reagan or Bush. And they sure didn't give a shit about the "material peripherals." They just liked the music. I was in college when you were, and I can assure you we were all about the beer. The beer and the music. And the pot. That too.



spudboy
Posted: Jan 23, 2009 - 11:14
 

 wferrier wrote:
 
 

 

There's different layers; below the Deadheads are the Pranksterites. Every Pranksterite knows who Leary was, but not many Deadheads do. But when you ask a Pranksterite what Leary was into, outside of the usual clichés, none can tell you. There once was an east coast tribe and a west coast tribe. The west coast tribe never knew what the east coast tribe was doing.  



 
Curious observation.  Why are you linking Pranksterites with Timothy Leary?  By Pranksterites I assume you mean fans and followers of Ken Kesey, like the Pranksters?  The Pranksters and Leary were not at all on the same page.  Leary saw LSD as a tool for further study of mental capacirty and functionality while the Pranksters were more light hearted and simply enjoying the experience.  To say that deadheads don't know who Leary was makes no sense.  Are all your deadhead acquaintances 15 years old or something?


jagdriver
(Tunin' in from the aptly-named Grass Valley, CA)
Posted: Jan 23, 2009 - 11:01
 

 wferrier wrote:
 There's different layers; below the Deadheads are the Pranksterites. Every Pranksterite knows who Leary was, but not many Deadheads do. But when you ask a Pranksterite what Leary was into, outside of the usual clichés, none can tell you. There once was an east coast tribe and a west coast tribe. The west coast tribe never knew what the east coast tribe was doing.  
 
Except that the Pranksters took the legendary bus trip to the New York World's Fair in '64 and dropped in on Dr. Tim's tripping headquarters as long as they were nearby and both camps shared a mutual fondness for Mr. Owsley. Unfortunately, Kesey and Leary had completely different ideas as to how Owley's gift to the world should best be utilized. The former thought "anytime, anywhere," and "more is more." The later treated it with more respect, given that many who saw the light were ultimately vaporized by same.

Me, I drove my own psychedelic bus, thanks, and it wasn't all that terrific—although a multi-hued August dawn somewhere on I-80 E in Iowa with 'Trane blaring was an unforgettable sight akin to a daytime aurora borealis. I quickly discovered I preferred Dr. Tim's approach, given that—when in Rome—I find lyres, baths, frescos, wine and (lack of) togas far more appealing than chariots, lions, and senatorial assassinations.



LongGoneDaddy
Posted: Nov 21, 2008 - 06:26
 

 erichb wrote:


If you think deadheads are bad, you should have spent some time around Phishheads.  They made deadheads a joy to be around.
 

freakin gate crashers! 


wferrier
(Johnson City, New York; Home of the Factory)
Posted: Aug 18, 2008 - 12:23
 

 Jack_Jefferson wrote:


Having gone to college in the late 1980's/early 1990's, I'd have to say the majority of the "deadheads" I knew fit this profile. These same people were just looking for something to conform to. The vast majority were preppy in high school, voted for Reagan or Bush and belonged to a fraternity or sorority. They were into the dead simply for the material peripherals (drugs and clothes) and knew next to nothing about the music. Having said that, I enjoyed their music a lot at the time but did not identify myself as a deadhead mostly because I didn't want to be confused with the college-aged bandwagon deadheads.
  
 

 

There's different layers; below the Deadheads are the Pranksterites. Every Pranksterite knows who Leary was, but not many Deadheads do. But when you ask a Pranksterite what Leary was into, outside of the usual clichés, none can tell you. There once was an east coast tribe and a west coast tribe. The west coast tribe never knew what the east coast tribe was doing.  




erichb
Posted: Aug 18, 2008 - 12:15
 

 Jack_Jefferson wrote:


Having gone to college in the late 1980's/early 1990's, I'd have to say the majority of the "deadheads" I knew fit this profile. These same people were just looking for something to conform to. The vast majority were preppy in high school, voted for Reagan or Bush and belonged to a fraternity or sorority. They were into the dead simply for the material peripherals (drugs and clothes) and knew next to nothing about the music. Having said that, I enjoyed their music a lot at the time but did not identify myself as a deadhead mostly because I didn't want to be confused with the college-aged bandwagon deadheads.
 

If you think deadheads are bad, you should have spent some time around Phishheads.  They made deadheads a joy to be around.

Al_Koholic
(Exit 82, NJ)
Posted: Aug 18, 2008 - 12:15
 

ArbiterOfGoodTaste wrote:

Yeah, similar for me, though the songs were Casey Jones and Truckin'. Still don't really like either of those.

Always hated when they played those 2 songs.  After a while, they stopped playing them altogether-thank god.


rtwingo
(Israel)
Posted: Aug 18, 2008 - 12:14
 

 laozilover wrote:
First track off their first album!
 

First and last I hope {#Ask}

Jack_Jefferson
(Columbus, OH)
Posted: Jun 16, 2008 - 08:32
 

damien wrote:
I think the Dead never had a chance with me because of all the deadheads. It isn't so much their music, or true dead heads (whom most are in their 50s now)- it is more the bandwagon jumpers who decide to become deadheads without really listening to the band. They see the Dead subcultture, and with their pathetic need to belong to something (not enough religion in their life?) they run out, buy a crapload of tie dye and hemp clothing, stop showering and cover themselves in patchuli stink. THEN they TRY to get into the music. It is more a gimmic now than anything. But that is just me - hey, I think most harley people are dicks too!

its like the joke goes;
Q: what did one Deadhead say to the other when they ran out of acid?
A: Man! this music BLOWS!


Having gone to college in the late 1980's/early 1990's, I'd have to say the majority of the "deadheads" I knew fit this profile. These same people were just looking for something to conform to. The vast majority were preppy in high school, voted for Reagan or Bush and belonged to a fraternity or sorority. They were into the dead simply for the material peripherals (drugs and clothes) and knew next to nothing about the music. Having said that, I enjoyed their music a lot at the time but did not identify myself as a deadhead mostly because I didn't want to be confused with the college-aged bandwagon deadheads.
DigitalJer
(Edmonton, Alberta, Canada)
Posted: Jun 16, 2008 - 08:14
 

I grew up hearing this from 'Skeletons From the Closet' (and still have the vinyl); among others of the time...great period, great music.
wferrier
(Johnson City, New York; Home of the Factory)
Posted: Apr 14, 2008 - 09:27
 

erichb wrote:
Phish followed by GD: It's hippie hour at radio paradise


It's OK, it's cool, join us. Dance around the sun!
erichb
Posted: Apr 14, 2008 - 09:25
 

Phish followed by GD: It's hippie hour at radio paradise
MinMan
(Bay Area, CA)
Posted: Mar 13, 2008 - 21:52
 

If it's dead, bury it.
ArbiterOfGoodTaste
(Seattle, WA)
Posted: Dec 10, 2007 - 14:02
 

Mugro wrote:
I must have been a Reverse "Touch Head" then. I initially thought that the Dead sucked because all I knew was Touch of Grey. I was about 15 when that song was released as a single. Little did I know that the song had been performed live for years before that.

Once I listened to the concert stuff, I was hooked. It took a bit to overcome listening to Touch of Grey on every radio station for a while though.

Yeah, similar for me, though the songs were Casey Jones and Truckin'. Still don't really like either of those.
Mugro
(Lane Village, Red Sox Nation)
Posted: Dec 10, 2007 - 13:58
 

ArbiterOfGoodTaste wrote:


I must have been a Reverse "Touch Head" then. I initially thought that the Dead sucked because all I knew was Touch of Grey. I was about 15 when that song was released as a single. Little did I know that the song had been performed live for years before that.

Once I listened to the concert stuff, I was hooked. It took a bit to overcome listening to Touch of Grey on every radio station for a while though.
ArbiterOfGoodTaste
(Seattle, WA)
Posted: Dec 10, 2007 - 13:54
 

mefrombrazil wrote:
I prefer TOUCH OF GREY.

They've got a name for your type.
mefrombrazil
(ponta grossa, brazil)
Posted: Dec 10, 2007 - 13:53
 

dogpound wrote:
it's hippie hour here at RP


YES. LET'S TURN OFF
dogpound
(the island on which I belong)
Posted: Dec 10, 2007 - 13:52
 

it's hippie hour here at RP


mefrombrazil
(ponta grossa, brazil)
Posted: Dec 10, 2007 - 13:51
 

I prefer TOUCH OF GREY.
laozilover
(Left of Chicago and up)
Posted: Nov 09, 2007 - 04:20
 

First track off their first album!
RobRyan
(Canyon Country, CA)
Posted: Sep 07, 2007 - 08:04
 

damien wrote:
I think the Dead never had a chance with me because of all the deadheads. It isn't so much their music, or true dead heads (whom most are in their 50s now)- it is more the bandwagon jumpers who decide to become deadheads without really listening to the band. They see the Dead subcultture, and with their pathetic need to belong to something (not enough religion in their life?) they run out, buy a crapload of tie dye and hemp clothing, stop showering and cover themselves in patchuli stink. THEN they TRY to get into the music. It is more a gimmic now than anything. But that is just me - hey, I think most harley people are dicks too!

its like the joke goes;
Q: what did one Deadhead say to the other when they ran out of acid?
A: Man! this music BLOWS!


Envy is a sad thing. I was never a Dead Head though I've been to several of their concerts. I think much of their music (this song, Bertha, many others) are terrific and some are trite and boring.

But to take such an attitude toward people who loved the music and enjoyed the community smacks of cynical envy. Take it or leave it, let others do the same.
wally42
(Between a Rock and a Hard Place)
Posted: Sep 07, 2007 - 08:01
 

Awesome!!!!!!!!!
Bocephus
(Boulder, CO)
Posted: Sep 07, 2007 - 08:01
 

this track hasn't aged well and I actually like The Dead.
laozilover
(Left of Chicago and up)
Posted: Aug 06, 2007 - 21:48
 

Wow! First track on first album!
musikalia
(Somewhere (over the rainbow))
Posted: Jul 06, 2007 - 09:39
 

fractalv wrote:

In fact, it was the people that only followed the dead and had nothing else in their lives that I felt the worst about.


Nothing else in their lives? My life was beautiful, whole and complete while I followed the Dead. No need for you to have felt badly for us, but thanks for caring.
fuh2
(I think I'm in the USA)
Posted: Jun 20, 2005 - 17:51
 

This sounds a bit punkish.
Mugro
(Lane Village, Massachusetts)
Posted: May 13, 2005 - 07:15
 

damien wrote:
I think the Dead never had a chance with me because of all the deadheads. It isn't so much their music, or true dead heads (whom most are in their 50s now)- it is more the bandwagon jumpers who decide to become deadheads without really listening to the band. They see the Dead subcultture, and with their pathetic need to belong to something (not enough religion in their life?) they run out, buy a crapload of tie dye and hemp clothing, stop showering and cover themselves in patchuli stink. THEN they TRY to get into the music. It is more a gimmic now than anything. But that is just me - hey, I think most harley people are dicks too!

its like the joke goes;
Q: what did one Deadhead say to the other when they ran out of acid?
A: Man! this music BLOWS!


For me, it is not about Deadheads. It is about the music. Yes, perhaps there was a great community created by the Dead and their tours, but the lasting thing for me is the music. The music, and how it makes me feel. Damien, it sounds like you never got deep into the music or the Deadhead culture. That is fine, that is your choice. It is not mandatory to like the Dead or their music. However, don't trivialize it, because it happened and the Dead's music has endured despite the death of a lot of its members and despite the fact that they were never a big seller of hit records.

As for the music. Just listen to it. Really listen. And don't just listen to Touch of Grey or Friend of the Devil. Listen to their American folk background with songs like Deep Ellem. Listen to their amazing melodies like Eyes of the World. I listened to Eyes of the World on my way into the office this morning and it turned my whole mood around. If after you really listen to the deep cuts, and you still don't like the music, then fine. That is ok. But don't judge it until you have given it a chance!
JoJopugs
(New Milford CT.)
Posted: May 13, 2005 - 07:06
 

SWEET! :D/
rgrace
(Rio Nido, CA)
Posted: Apr 28, 2005 - 15:51
 

basslice wrote:
Your comments are absolutely Dead-On. I always thought that Nirvana was nothing but a Greatful Dead rip-off / tribute band. They obvisouly stole all their riffs and style from The Dead! I don't believ they ever gave props to the Dead in their liner notes either...


Huh? They sound nothing like one another! what the heck are you talking about? Must beat you now
jagdriver
(HP Cubeland, Roseville, CA)
Posted: Apr 28, 2005 - 15:46
 

Not my favorite Dead song, nor my favorite Dead album. But it is probably my most favorite from this LP. Actually, I had purchased "Anthem of the Sun" first, and was hoping this LP was like that.