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Led Zeppelin — Achilles Last Stand
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pianocomposer
(Springfield)
Posted: May 18, 2013 - 04:58
 
Rockin. Nothing like most of their stuff. Innovative for its time. Many bands that came after this wrote music like this. Sounds a lot like Heart's Barracuda. 

Ericocean
(Cumberland, Maryland)
Posted: May 18, 2013 - 04:55
 
Painful, I hope this ends soon. 

KevinM
(Long Beach, Ca)
Posted: Mar 16, 2013 - 10:22
 
Does this thing ever end?

kojiroh
(Istanbul, Turkey)
Posted: Feb 13, 2013 - 01:25
 
This is probably my favorite piece from Zep. Not many people like it I guess. But seeing as people commented on its likeness to Yes (my favorite band) and Rush, it's perfectly understandable that I like it so much.

Eric_Lowrance
Posted: Jan 12, 2013 - 18:56
 
Too long, really?  Grow an attention span people, this song has one of the best martial inspired rock drum tracks ever laid down, an army of swirling, snarling guitars punctuated by a solo torn from Page's soul, a relentless, galloping bass line that would leave most players whimpering in submission and a tempo that builds to speed metal territory before there was even a musical category to describe it.  All in one song no less!

GeorgeMWoods
Posted: Jan 12, 2013 - 17:03
 
Painful. And seemingly never-endingly so.

caregiver
(near contentment now)
Posted: Jan 12, 2013 - 17:01
 
 westslope wrote:
Some of the riffs remind me of Yes.
  Interestingly enough, in 1981 Page joined with Yes bassist Chris Squire and drummer Alan White to form a supergroup called XYZ (for ex-Yes-Zeppelin). They rehearsed several times, but the project was shelved. Bootlegs of these sessions revealed that some of the material emerged on later projects, notably The Firm's "Fortune Hunter" and Yes songs "Mind Drive" and "Can You Imagine?". Page joined Yes on stage in 1984 at Westfalenhalle in Dortmund, Germany, playing "I'm Down".

MJMJ
Posted: Jan 12, 2013 - 17:00
 
When Yes meets Rush

oilydwarf
Posted: Dec 12, 2012 - 08:03
 
not their best indeed, about to hit mute!

ckcotton
(Adding snarky comments since 2007)
Posted: Dec 12, 2012 - 08:01
 
 nikki54 wrote:
not there best
 



YOU Sir/Madame are insane!!!!!!


westslope
(BC coast)
Posted: Dec 12, 2012 - 08:00
 
Some of the riffs remind me of Yes.

Poacher
(Brighton, UK)
Posted: Dec 12, 2012 - 07:59
 
 helgigermany wrote:
To long!
 
Thats what Mrs Poacher says. I always remind her its the width that is important too and not the least, what one does with it. 

nikki54
Posted: Dec 12, 2012 - 07:58
 
not there best

shellbella
(so california)
Posted: Dec 12, 2012 - 07:55
 
What a way to start a work day!!!!  {#Clap}

helgigermany
(Germany)
Posted: Nov 10, 2012 - 23:10
 
To long!

SantaRosaLynn
Posted: Oct 10, 2012 - 14:37
 
Ugh.  Please make it stop already
 

Keef
(Confluence of the American River)
Posted: Oct 10, 2012 - 14:34
 
I must have discovered Led Zep in '76 when this album came out. I must have worn out the vinyl on the record.  Listened to the rest of the catalog later, but the album Presence and this song in particular are the real Zep to me.

TJS
(Bradley, Il)
Posted: Aug 08, 2012 - 14:14
 
One of the most intense drum beats that I have ever tried to play.  Amazing talent, John Bonham. What a loss.

JIan
(SW Desert, AZ, USA)
Posted: Aug 08, 2012 - 14:08
 
Thank you for playing this, Bill!

lemmoth
(NYC)
Posted: Aug 08, 2012 - 14:06
 
 BikeCoachDave wrote:
Wow, the comments on this thread are amazing. People trying to say this sounds like Rush? People admitting they hadnt heard this track before but claiming to be Zep fans? Eluding that it might be a rip off of Heart? Complaining about the run time? You folks need to take some R&R 101 classes before you continue to post. 
 

Dave - I'm with you on some of this but this is not a typical Zep song, not just the radio songs but even a typical deep album cut.

I still stand by my statement that Geddy Lee, Neal Peart and Alex Lifeson had this record on repeat play while they were writing and recording.

hschlossberg
(Los Angeles)
Posted: Aug 08, 2012 - 14:00
 
 BikeCoachDave wrote:
Wow, the comments on this thread are amazing. People trying to say this sounds like Rush? People admitting they hadnt heard this track before but claiming to be Zep fans? Eluding that it might be a rip off of Heart? Complaining about the run time? You folks need to take some R&R 101 classes before you continue to post. 
 
No kidding!  This is a rock classic!!

JIan
(SW Desert, AZ, USA)
Posted: Aug 08, 2012 - 14:00
 
 Bosami wrote:


Word!
 
Word²!

Ears_of_Stone
(Crushed under the hooves of the herd)
Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 10:08
 
I'm suprised others are suprised by the low ratings. Led Zeppelin was never a critical success outside of its loyal fans. When a friend brought some Zep to a grade school "dance" everyone, including me, hated it. I did not begin to enjoy them until much later in life (30's) and then mostly for JPJ's bass and JB's drums. And the occasional Tolkien refererence ;-)

Bosami
(Deep in the heart of nowhere)
Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 10:07
 
 BikeCoachDave wrote:
Wow, the comments on this thread are amazing. People trying to say this sounds like Rush? People admitting they hadnt heard this track before but claiming to be Zep fans? Eluding that it might be a rip off of Heart? Complaining about the run time? You folks need to take some R&R 101 classes before you continue to post. 
 

Word!

bc
(It's everything. Location, Location, Location.)
Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 10:03
 
 TomFromPoland wrote:

Correction, Scott - Hearts cribbed Led Zep, not the other way round ;)

 

Not only that, but this song is the genesis of Metallica
(not to be confused with the Genesis of Metallica).
 

BikeCoachDave
(Columbia, Ky.)
Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 10:03
 
Wow, the comments on this thread are amazing. People trying to say this sounds like Rush? People admitting they hadnt heard this track before but claiming to be Zep fans? Eluding that it might be a rip off of Heart? Complaining about the run time? You folks need to take some R&R 101 classes before you continue to post. 

Randman01
Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 10:00
 
One of my favorite solos put to vinyl by Jimmy. Classic, understated, full of emotion.

smackiepipe
(Western North Carolina)
Posted: Jun 06, 2012 - 09:57
 
For some strange reason I've always thought this was the jammin'est song they ever cut. Length be damned.

jhorton
Posted: May 05, 2012 - 16:06
 
Okay, it is about three-times too long, but the musicianship is farging amazing. Drums, bass, guitar, even the vocals, just stunning. Hard to imagine anyone else who could pull this off.

PhoenixArtDj
(Star Idaho)
Posted: May 05, 2012 - 16:02
 
I thought for a sec that I was going to have to admit to liking a Rush song, then my brain slapped itself and said "you fool, this is Zeppelin!" Whew, that was close.

I still stand by the statement that the pic by the word "rock'n'roll" in the dictionary should be a photo of Led rocking in 73. Pinnacle of pure rock. 

cohifi
(Denver)
Posted: Apr 03, 2012 - 23:20
 
Okay, I'll admit I've never heard this Zep tune, which probably explains why I missed out on the whole band from the beginning.  So thanks for playing it again.

inindian
(Sea of joy)
Posted: Apr 03, 2012 - 23:20
 
 GarageDragon wrote:
Nope. Thought about it and I need to stick with my earlier comment. This song is raw. It's also repetitive as hell and goes on for a *really* long time.
 
Raw's good, right! It could be said to be repetitive but it's also full of rhythmic n melody changes. Maybe you need to adjust "3-minute-attention-span song" control knob!{#Wave}



vit
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 14:49
 
 Randman01 wrote:
I was half expecting the Zep version of When the Levee Breaks after Magic Slim & James Cotton. Nice surpise to be graced with Achilles. I think this is one of the most under rated Zep songs and perhaps Jimmy's best guitar solo. Rather than trying to dazzle us with notes/sec Jimmy pours his heart into making the most of each note.
 
I'm not super-knowledgeable of Led Zeppelin, but it seemed to me this whole (original) album was under-rated.


TomFromPoland
(Warsaw)
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 14:47
 
 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Hmm I gave it a 1 at some point. Probably because it goes on too long. But really it's probably worth a 3 at least for the mmmmBarracuda rhythm.
 
Correction, Scott - Hearts cribbed Led Zep, not the other way round ;)


hschlossberg
(Los Angeles)
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 14:44
 
There are a lot of old songs that RP plays that are generally overplayed and that I could sooo do without (CCR comes to mind).  But this Zep song is one I haven't heard in a long, long time and it is much appreciated.  Classic Zeppelin.

misterbearbaby
(Marina del Rey, California)
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 14:43
 
 Randman01 wrote:
I was half expecting the Zep version of When the Levee Breaks after Magic Slim & James Cotton. Nice surpise to be graced with Achilles. I think this is one of the most under rated Zep songs and perhaps Jimmy's best guitar solo. Rather than trying to dazzle us with notes/sec Jimmy pours his heart into making the most of each note.
 

Its such a good pair, here it is again, FF to January 2012... This song is truly "Godlike," the pinnacle of musical evolution. If you can't see that's so, it's because you're ignorant, having grown up in a  pitiable New Dark Age. One of LZ's three pillars of the earth's music: Achilles, Stairway and Moby Dick (greatest drum solo of all time special award).

Catalytic
(Calgary, Alberta, Canada)
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 14:40
 
Is there no Zero rating available? Oh, there we go, the "close" button...

lemmoth
(NYC)
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 14:39
 
To me this song sounds more like Rush than Zep.  

Barracuda part of this comment from AMG is obivous and commented on before in this forum but gotta love the Iron Maiden comment, all you metal heads.

"The rhythm of the song is very galloping and influential, without which Heart's "Barracuda," and Iron Maiden's entire oeuvre, could not have possibly existed. In particular, John Bonham's drum track is his most devastating ever, combining a breakneck pace with startling finesse."

aelfheld
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 14:38
 
 ofanansky wrote:
way to much Led Zeppelin for my taste
 
T'ain't no such thing.


ScottFromWyoming
(Powell)
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 14:36
 
Hmm I gave it a 1 at some point. Probably because it goes on too long. But really it's probably worth a 3 at least for the mmmmBarracuda rhythm.

jagdriver
(Just a nod and a wink south of Paradise)
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 14:36
 
A evangelistic FANatic since their debut LP first appeared, they lost me with this (original) album.

shellbella
(so california)
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 14:35
 
 ofanansky wrote:
way to much Led Zeppelin for my taste
 
Please explain yourself.... juz kidding... I can't imagine too much Zepp....


randyblew
(Raleigh, NC)
Posted: Jan 31, 2012 - 14:35
 
6.6!? What are you people smoking? I like all kinds of music from about every genre, but this, as Thompson said, Stomps on the Terra.

ofanansky
Posted: Nov 29, 2011 - 02:10
 
way to much Led Zeppelin for my taste

Randman01
Posted: Oct 28, 2011 - 12:06
 
I was half expecting the Zep version of When the Levee Breaks after Magic Slim & James Cotton. Nice surpise to be graced with Achilles. I think this is one of the most under rated Zep songs and perhaps Jimmy's best guitar solo. Rather than trying to dazzle us with notes/sec Jimmy pours his heart into making the most of each note.

GarageDragon
Posted: Oct 28, 2011 - 12:06
 
Nope. Thought about it and I need to stick with my earlier comment. This song is raw. It's also repetitive as hell and goes on for a *really* long time.

Dahlia_Gumbo
(San Francisco)
Posted: Oct 28, 2011 - 12:04
 
 BBOGDA wrote:

I love Zeppelin - but no likey this.


 


I love Z too and Plant, but not this either.

kcar
Posted: Sep 26, 2011 - 19:48
 
 kingart wrote:
Not only is it one of Zep's almighty cuts, but a commercial radio audience would have to wait until palm trees grow on the moon before this would play on that brain dead soundscape.  StairwaytoHeavenWholeLottaLoveImmigrantSong play on an endless loop. Kudos to RP for going where no Clear Channel artificial robo DJ bullshit cares to tread.  
 
I can't say it's one of LZ's better songs, but it's always interesting to hear forgotten works/B-sides/unreleased stuff from big-name groups. I really don't know "Presence" at all. This feels like a structured jam session, but that's OK.

Oldies stations on FM, even those of the best of intentions, get forced by market forces to stick to the old chestnuts. It's good to hear stuff like this because it forces you to expand or re-think your assessment of the band. I remember when I first started hearing the Beatles' "Hey Bulldog" on FM, long after they'd broken up. It had never gotten played much before then but suddenly listeners cottoned onto it and kept requesting that "new" Beatles' song. It represented a different side of the band that people had forgotten or never knew about—and it was exciting. 
  

Deadwing
(Cincinnati OH)
Posted: Sep 26, 2011 - 19:30
 
 jpstfx28 wrote:
Shocked at the poor rating on this tune
 
I know! Right?

Presence was never very well received, but this song is epic and magical.

It just isn't one of the "hallowed" Zep songs that everyone worships en masse.

I would listen to this over Whole Lotta Love every time.



BBOGDA
Posted: Sep 26, 2011 - 19:24
 

I love Zeppelin - but no likey this.