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| Gryn (Oregon) | Posted: Aug 07, 2006 - 07:07 meloman wrote: Sorry, but replying to this is difficult. How shall I put it? It's as if you'd said that masturbation is better than sex with another person. Are you kidding me? Nothing is better than the REAL thing! Meaning, masturbation. |
| meloman (Warsaw, Poland) | Posted: Aug 01, 2006 - 05:04 Gryn wrote: I like this song.. a lot. I dislike the Beatles. These guys are better than the Beatles.
Sorry, but replying to this is difficult. How shall I put it? It's as if you'd said that masturbation is better than sex with another person. |
| noelbarnes (Santa Cruz) | Posted: Jul 17, 2006 - 13:01 One of the worst album cover arts ever! |
| (former member) (Shadow Valley Condos) | Posted: Jul 17, 2006 - 12:53 jeffhtuner wrote: This is "Baby You're a Rich Man" no?
Si. World Party is without shame, lifting from the greats. Strictly homage. |
| moshevelvul (or velocity?) | Posted: Jul 17, 2006 - 12:50 love 'em or hate 'em WP has always lifted bits and pieces of pop history and incorporated them into their (his) records. Every WP record wears its influences on its sleeve..... |
| jeffhtuner | Posted: Jul 17, 2006 - 12:50 This is "Baby You're a Rich Man" no? |
| Gryn (Oregon) | Posted: Jul 14, 2006 - 04:44 Monkeysdad wrote: ..and your taste for music is in your shoe! I suppose this is why my taste for music kicks ass! |
| rachlan (nyc) | Posted: Jul 09, 2006 - 18:30 I can't help liking songs sounding beatlesk. |
| Monkeysdad (Sunny Simi) | Posted: Jul 02, 2006 - 21:09 Gryn wrote: I like this song.. a lot. I dislike the Beatles. These guys are better than the Beatles.
..and your taste for music is in your shoe! |
| Gryn (Oregon) | Posted: Jun 25, 2006 - 02:38 I like this song.. a lot. I dislike the Beatles. These guys are better than the Beatles. |
| Darkmatter (Sweden) | Posted: Jun 25, 2006 - 02:36 This could be a show: "Dumbing up with Dubya". Oh wait, it is already on primetime.  |
| kgish (Lost in the Netherlands) | Posted: Jun 25, 2006 - 02:31 Yes, definitely Beatles-like. |
| laozilover (Left of Chicago and up.) | Posted: Jun 10, 2006 - 12:35 Marley wrote: Sounds like the Beatles, if they were produced by Jeff Lynne  "ELO meets the Beatles"!  |
| mysteryplane | Posted: Jun 10, 2006 - 12:33 Keep wishing you had something to say, moron. this doesnt belong on record, it belongs at some open mike night. "Now that you know the score, How could you need some more? You've taken over and we want to have a word When you come round How did you come to be? Why don't you ever say "I see"? You stole the fire, Now there's no one round to put you out" |
| AphidA (Alexandria, VA) | Posted: Jun 07, 2006 - 12:31 Like these guys (KW) but I'm not really into lifting entire melodies from Baby, You're a Rich Man. Just under half pleasant. Just over half irritating. |
| TKTuttle (Northern Illinois) | Posted: Jun 07, 2006 - 12:29 Started out as a 6, finished with a 7.  |
| Shesdifferent (Just visiting this planet) | Posted: Jun 07, 2006 - 12:28 Good to hear World Party on RP! 
cesare wrote: I hear it too. I can't decide if it's lame or a legitimate tribute. It's definitely not original enough to stand on its own. I gave it a 2 but because I like those two songs I can't stop listening. Unless your BECK of course! |
| Cruithne3753 (Bristol, UK) | Posted: Jun 07, 2006 - 12:27 Obvious Lennonist leanings in their policies! (boom-tish!)  |
| Ubaldo (Hurricane Alley, FL) | Posted: Jun 07, 2006 - 12:26 This group -- they sound familiar. I thought they broke up in 1970! |
| coding_to_music (Beantown) | Posted: Jun 07, 2006 - 12:26 Um, shouldn't they write their own hooks? Freakin thiefs All the good hooks are stolen, the non-stolen stuff is blah... |
| Marley (Portland, Or) | Posted: May 23, 2006 - 22:03 Sounds like the Beatles, if they were produced by Jeff Lynne |
| vandal (the 'couve) | Posted: May 09, 2006 - 08:19 re: Beatles, how about, "heavily influenced by the style of. . . ?" |
| cesare (PRB) | Posted: May 09, 2006 - 08:18 ChardRemains wrote: Wow man. Groupthink.
I hear it too. I can't decide if it's lame or a legitimate tribute. It's definitely not original enough to stand on its own. I gave it a 2 but because I like those two songs I can't stop listening. |
| nick_valensi (Charlotte, NC) | Posted: May 09, 2006 - 08:15 Beatles guys again. funny. I'm actually liking it. |
| jcs | Posted: May 06, 2006 - 21:37 gjeeg wrote: Never an insult to copy the Beatles. I agree |
| Mari (Broome, WA) | Posted: May 06, 2006 - 21:33 ...  ... |
| PopKombo (Monrovia, CA) | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 13:46 bbHappy wrote: I believe the word you're looking for is "imitation", and in the music industry I think that leads to getting permission to use the material, paying royalties or, more likely, both. Otherwise it's considered plagiarism and you end up in court just like George Harrison did. Thanks for correcting me, bb. I did mean to say "imitation". I guess it comes down to whether you think the song was imitation or plagerism ... as we all recognized, it was definitely an imitation of the Beatle's style on "Baby, You're a Rich Man" and "Dear Prudence". Where Harrison got into trouble: "My Sweet Lord" does not stylisticly sound like "He's So Fine", but the chord progression, melody line and even the arrangement (substitute "hare krishna, hare rama" for " do-lang, do-lang, do-lang" in the back-up vocals) is "He's So Fine" with different words. I believe, as the Court did that George didn't do this purposely, it was an honest (subconscious?) mistake, but never the less they had to find for Spector because of the musical mirror image. As far as "Another Thousand Years" goes I thought it to be more of a stylistic "rip-off" if you will and since style can not be copywrited more of a musical nod to Lennon and McCartney than plagerism ... but hey ... what the hell do I know ... maybe this is a matter for "Dewey, Cheatham and Howe, esqs." |
| bbHappy (Boulder, CO) | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 12:45 PopKombo wrote: What is the saying ... "Plagerism is the sincerest form of flattery." ??? something like that ...
I believe the word you're looking for is "imitation", and in the music industry I think that leads to getting permission to use the material, paying royalties or, more likely, both. Otherwise it's considered plagiarism and you end up in court just like George Harrison did. |
| nick_valensi (Charlotte, NC) | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 12:26 PopKombo wrote: I have no doubt that World Party fully realized what they were doing ... it's more of a tip of the hat than a rip off ... again ... quoting the masters No doubt they realized what they were doing. And no doubt they are huge Beatles fans. And no doubt they wanted to quote The Masters... but I just think this is not a smart way to do it, it's so literal. I mean, for years many bands have wisely used lots of Beatles' musical techniques. Blur, Radiohead, Supergrass, I don't know, lots of bands. But this is way too obvious, which makes it silly and ordinary, thus, insulting. |
| PopKombo (Monrovia, CA) | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 12:14 deepfatfried wrote: What a blatant rip-off.
 I have no doubt that World Party fully realized what they were doing ... it's more of a tip of the hat than a rip off ... again ... quoting the masters |
| PopKombo (Monrovia, CA) | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 12:13 What is the saying ... "Plagerism is the sincerest form of flattery." ??? something like that ... |
| deepfatfried | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 12:11 What a blatant rip-off. |
| PopKombo (Monrovia, CA) | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 12:10 gjeeg wrote: Never an insult to copy the Beatles. But I agree with gjeeg, it's more a complement to the masters than an insult. |
| ArmchairMusician (Rochester, NY) | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 12:06 PopKombo wrote: That's funny ... we all had the same thoughts!!
It's soooo obvious!! I was ready to groove to the Beatles then.. OH NO!! |
| nick_valensi (Charlotte, NC) | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 12:05 gjeeg wrote: Never an insult to copy the Beatles. Depends. |
| bbHappy (Boulder, CO) | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 12:05 Umm...Does anyone else hear the Beatles' "Baby You're A Rich Man" riff in this song? "Now that you know the score.." = "How does it feel to be.." Edit: I guess so! |
| PopKombo (Monrovia, CA) | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 12:04 That's funny ... we all had the same thoughts!! |
| gjeeg (Syracuse, New York) | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 12:04 nick_valensi wrote: This is a very insulting mix between "Baby You're A Rich Man" and "Dear Prudence".
Never an insult to copy the Beatles. |
| PopKombo (Monrovia, CA) | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 12:03 How does it feel to be one of the beautiful people, dear Prudence? |
| ChardRemains (Pepperland) | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 12:03 nick_valensi wrote: This is a very insulting mix between "Baby You're A Rich Man" and "Dear Prudence". Wow man. Groupthink. |
| gjeeg (Syracuse, New York) | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 12:03 Do they know it's Baby You're A Rich Man ?? |
| ArmchairMusician (Rochester, NY) | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 12:02 How does it feel to be one of the beautiful people? |
| ChardRemains (Pepperland) | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 12:02 Dear Prudence: Baby, You're a Rich Man. Love, World Party posing as the Beatles |
| nick_valensi (Charlotte, NC) | Posted: May 05, 2006 - 12:02 This is a very insulting mix between "Baby You're A Rich Man" and "Dear Prudence". |