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Dav3thedog
(Canberra)
Posted: May 03, 2013 - 22:58
 

sajitjacob
(Christchurch NZ)
Posted: Apr 02, 2013 - 19:37
 
In reply to both rdo and highlowsel

I would suggest in this case the tyranny of language and not culture (as long as we stay in the west) can be blamed.
Classical music is largely instrumental, Italian opera dominated at the time 'cause they invented it. Similarly English rock/pop dominates because it was invented in the English speaking world and non English acts sing in English if they want to be heard outside of their country.

Sir Bill often play non English acts, which could be why we're all here.. I guess.

Rock me Amadeus.

 rdo wrote:


Actually, up until the early 20th century no other county had anywhere near the illustrious music tradition of Germany/Austria, which was considered supreme beyond all comparison (I am not making this up).  I am of course referring to the "classical", or what I'd prefer to call the institutional music tradition.  Countries like Italy, France, and Russia were highly regarded, second-tier musical cultures, while those like England, USA and Sweden were considered inferior by large degrees.  Now, in non-institutional music, it's Germany that is inferior.  It hardly shows up on the radar.  I cannot think of one decent German performer.   France, Italy and Russia lag too, yet the UK, US and Scandinavia reign supreme.
 



Coventry
(the great flyover country)
Posted: Apr 02, 2013 - 19:25
 
AT first he sounds a bit like Roland Orzabal.

rdo
(DC)
Posted: Feb 23, 2013 - 13:55
 
 Highlowsel wrote:

RDO:  What's up with the Germans?  Don't get me wrong they're a strong people on any number of levels.  But Rock involves a certain emotional commitment and "ear."  It isn't what you'd call mechanistic, although that idea is open to interpretation.  It has a wild edge to it.  The Germans, as a society, tend to be less emotional and very mechanistic.  I find it a hysterical irony of history that they share a border with a society well known for their emotional aspect, the French.  It's no wonder history witnessed them going nuts with each other from time to time.  In any case this is my subjective answer to your question. 

Just some thoughts. 

Great tune by the way.

Highlow
American Net'Zen
 

Actually, up until the early 20th century no other county had anywhere near the illustrious music tradition of Germany/Austria, which was considered supreme beyond all comparison (I am not making this up).  I am of course referring to the "classical", or what I'd prefer to call the institutional music tradition.  Countries like Italy, France, and Russia were highly regarded, second-tier musical cultures, while those like England, USA and Sweden were considered inferior by large degrees.  Now, in non-institutional music, it's Germany that is inferior.  It hardly shows up on the radar.  I cannot think of one decent German performer.   France, Italy and Russia lag too, yet the UK, US and Scandinavia reign supreme.

Highlowsel
(New York City)
Posted: Jan 18, 2013 - 08:45
 
 rdo wrote:

Interesting.  I agree England has better Rock music.   What's up with Germany?  Seriously, why don't we hear anything from there?
 
RDO:  What's up with the Germans?  Don't get me wrong they're a strong people on any number of levels.  But Rock involves a certain emotional commitment and "ear."  It isn't what you'd call mechanistic, although that idea is open to interpretation.  It has a wild edge to it.  The Germans, as a society, tend to be less emotional and very mechanistic.  I find it a hysterical irony of history that they share a border with a society well known for their emotional aspect, the French.  It's no wonder history witnessed them going nuts with each other from time to time.  In any case this is my subjective answer to your question. 

Just some thoughts. 

Great tune by the way.

Highlow
American Net'Zen

mrtuba9
(most likely near Normal)
Posted: Jan 18, 2013 - 08:26
 
jeetttstreaaaaammmmmaammm!

mrtuba9
(most likely near Normal)
Posted: Nov 28, 2012 - 07:27
 
 michaelgmitchell wrote:
michaelgmitchell wrote:
'Boober', thanks!
That link's dead. I guess this year's teacher killed the student blogs. Damn shame. Here's the video on my Vimeo site.
http://vimeo.com/23420607
Really nice job by the boys. 
Well, I liked the song, anyway, but after having watched that video, I have to say this:  My jaw dropped, I was completely riveted to the screen, and I kept shaking my head in disbelief.  And now I want to share it with everyone I know and tell them that a bunch of KIDS did it!  It's wicked-good - I love all the different aspects they picked up on from the lyrics.  Excellent, excellent work. Those young adults can be very proud, and perhaps a little gloating would not be inappropriate!
Thanks for sharing this. I am humbled.

This, coming from Cynaera back in December, I am deeply humbled. Because I always valued her thoughts on these forums and comment threads.
I never knew a thing about the woman, but it's clear she left a mark with many. That's all we can ask ... is to leave something significant behind.
/M.
 
Deserves a hot link to the video... http://vimeo.com/23420607



mguzina
Posted: Nov 28, 2012 - 07:24
 
Booring

rdo
(DC)
Posted: Nov 16, 2012 - 15:02
 
 Stingray wrote:

Great-great band!

In the end - though it's possibly a silly thing to say - I believe

that England makes the better music (for me anyway),

but that USA has the better (trained) musicians!

 
Interesting.  I agree England has better Rock music.   What's up with Germany?  Seriously, why don't we hear anything from there?

michaelgmitchell
(Stirling, ON)
Posted: Sep 26, 2012 - 11:26
 
michaelgmitchell wrote:
'Boober', thanks!
That link's dead. I guess this year's teacher killed the student blogs. Damn shame. Here's the video on my Vimeo site.
http://vimeo.com/23420607
Really nice job by the boys. 
Well, I liked the song, anyway, but after having watched that video, I have to say this:  My jaw dropped, I was completely riveted to the screen, and I kept shaking my head in disbelief.  And now I want to share it with everyone I know and tell them that a bunch of KIDS did it!  It's wicked-good - I love all the different aspects they picked up on from the lyrics.  Excellent, excellent work. Those young adults can be very proud, and perhaps a little gloating would not be inappropriate!
Thanks for sharing this. I am humbled.

This, coming from Cynaera back in December, I am deeply humbled. Because I always valued her thoughts on these forums and comment threads.
I never knew a thing about the woman, but it's clear she left a mark with many. That's all we can ask ... is to leave something significant behind.
/M.

camatcba
(Lumberjack Software Hack Node)
Posted: Sep 26, 2012 - 11:23
 
{#Motor}

Stingray
Posted: Sep 26, 2012 - 11:22
 
 mrtuba9 wrote:
Is there a little ELO sampling in this?
 
NONE! Not even Bev on the drums!

Stingray
Posted: Sep 26, 2012 - 11:21
 

Great-great band!

In the end - though it's possibly a silly thing to say - I believe

that England makes the better music (for me anyway),

but that USA has the better (trained) musicians!



GalileoCoffeeCo
Posted: Sep 14, 2012 - 17:28
 
👍👍👍👍😁

jagdriver
(Just a nod and a wink south of Paradise)
Posted: Jul 25, 2012 - 13:08
 
 le_colonel wrote:

Oh how I love this band...

This is not their best song, but even their worst is still 8.

 
Right. I love almost everything else they've done, but this one only gets a 6. Other tracks off this CD still really excite me whenever I hear them.

TerryS
(Another SW)
Posted: Jul 13, 2012 - 19:34
 
Well shite. That link's gone, Cynaera. Sure sounded good, though. OK, take it back, just saw the patch. Agreed, brilliant.

mrtuba9
(most likely near Normal)
Posted: May 23, 2012 - 06:53
 
 Cynaera wrote:

Well, I liked the song, anyway, but after having watched that video, I have to say this:  My jaw dropped, I was completely riveted to the screen, and I kept shaking my head in disbelief.  And now I want to share it with everyone I know and tell them that a bunch of KIDS did it!  It's wicked-good - I love all the different aspects they picked up on from the lyrics.  Excellent, excellent work. Those young adults can be very proud, and perhaps a little gloating would not be inappropriate!

Thanks for sharing this. I am humbled.

 
AGREED {#Eek}

mrtuba9
(most likely near Normal)
Posted: May 23, 2012 - 06:50
 
Is there a little ELO sampling in this?

thewiseking
(New York, New York)
Posted: Apr 09, 2012 - 16:00
 
 Alexandra wrote:
This really has a hint of New Order in it, huh? I like The Doves a lot.
 

Kraftwerk Numbers kickin in just past the 3:00 mark

thewiseking
(New York, New York)
Posted: Apr 09, 2012 - 15:52
 
dug the Doves but hadn't heard this one till now. it's a keeper

Cynaera
(Oh, who cares?)
Posted: Dec 16, 2011 - 15:53
 
 michaelgmitchell wrote:
'Boober', thanks!
That link's dead. I guess this year's teacher killed the student blogs. Damn shame. Here's the video on my Vimeo site.
http://vimeo.com/23420607
Really nice job by the boys.

 
Well, I liked the song, anyway, but after having watched that video, I have to say this:  My jaw dropped, I was completely riveted to the screen, and I kept shaking my head in disbelief.  And now I want to share it with everyone I know and tell them that a bunch of KIDS did it!  It's wicked-good - I love all the different aspects they picked up on from the lyrics.  Excellent, excellent work. Those young adults can be very proud, and perhaps a little gloating would not be inappropriate!

Thanks for sharing this. I am humbled.


michaelgmitchell
(Ontario, Canada)
Posted: Dec 09, 2011 - 14:16
 
 boober wrote:
The little buggers have an artistic flair....and good taste in music.Good job teach!
  'Boober', thanks!
That link's dead. I guess this year's teacher killed the student blogs. Damn shame. Here's the video on my Vimeo site.
http://vimeo.com/23420607
Really nice job by the boys.


kaybee
(Lost in the Wilds of Toronto)
Posted: Dec 04, 2011 - 16:54
 
 Alexandra wrote:
This really has a hint of New Order in it, huh? I like The Doves a lot.
 
Also the singer is somewhat reminiscent of Lennon - maybe the Beatles, had they stayed together in the '80's and John had lived.


le_colonel
Posted: Nov 14, 2011 - 22:26
 

Oh how I love this band...

This is not their best song, but even their worst is still 8.

 



boober
(KC,Mo)
Posted: Jul 05, 2011 - 05:41
 
 michaelgmitchell wrote:
 michaelgmitchell wrote:
Some of my students are doing a video of this tune for their music project this term. Looking forward to their interpretations.

AND ... here's the link to one of their blogs, which will show the video. The boys did an amazing job. I think Doves would be flattered.

Cheers,
M. 

  The little buggers have an artistic flair....and good taste in music.Good job teach!



kaybee
(Lost in the Wilds of Toronto)
Posted: Jun 30, 2011 - 17:47
 
 Alexandra wrote:
This really has a hint of New Order in it, huh? I like The Doves a lot.
 
It sounds a bit like Wire's "Eardrum buzz" to me.



socalhol
(Seattle)
Posted: Jun 10, 2011 - 10:57
 
 Alexandra wrote:
This really has a hint of New Order in it, huh? I like The Doves a lot.
 
I never thought of that comparison, but now that you mention it I hear it in this song for sure.  I am a huge New Order fan, perhaps that is why I am partial to Doves too!  {#Sunny}

michaelgmitchell
(Canada)
Posted: May 29, 2011 - 16:36
 
 michaelgmitchell wrote:
Some of my students are doing a video of this tune for their music project this term. Looking forward to their interpretations.

AND ... here's the link to one of their blogs, which will show the video. The boys did an amazing job. I think Doves would be flattered.

Cheers,
M. 


Alexandra
(The Gem City, Ohio)
Posted: Apr 08, 2011 - 05:10
 
This really has a hint of New Order in it, huh? I like The Doves a lot.

jlind
(Chicago, IL)
Posted: Apr 01, 2011 - 08:51
 
 Cynaera wrote:
Bumping this from 8 to 9 - it's really starting to grow on me! {#Dancingbanana_2}
 

I personally think it's a 7 because it really sounds like their other stuff, not to mention a ton of other stuff. Although they did basically invent this sound, they really haven't innovated it much. When I first heard them circa 2001 I thought they were going to be the next thing, but I really think they turned out to be another cold play: one innovation and done.

Cynaera
(South of Neanderthal)
Posted: Mar 07, 2011 - 17:27
 
Bumping this from 8 to 9 - it's really starting to grow on me! {#Dancingbanana_2}

warped_core
(laid back Shekou Shenzhen China)
Posted: Jan 04, 2011 - 02:22
 
Dang it! just got back to my computer to see that I missed this...

love this album, and pretty much all they have done. Please play catch the sun, cuz it has been grey and gloomy here...
{#Sunny}
 

Stingray
(EUROPE)
Posted: Jan 04, 2011 - 02:13
 
THIS IS "MUSIC" AS I NEED IT...!

GORGEOUS!!

michaelgmitchell
(Belleville, ON)
Posted: Dec 28, 2010 - 07:09
 
Some of my students are doing a video of this tune for their music project this term. Looking forward to their interpretations.

Stingray
(EUROPE)
Posted: May 19, 2010 - 14:50
 
SURPRISINGLY GOOD!


k_trout
(Dream State)
Posted: Feb 20, 2010 - 13:19
 
 westslope wrote:

Well, as long as there was no gun play in the concert, everything is cool.

 
no gunplay at altamont



westslope
(BC coast)
Posted: Feb 13, 2010 - 16:10
 
 Dior wrote:
It's one of the best britpop albums I have ever heard!  Teen music with adult content in perfect balance!
 

Howdy Dior!  That is an interesting comment.  Is it the driving techno-like beat that suggests "teen music"?

 

BTW, does Britpop make your teeth go bad?



DigitalJer
(Edmonton, Alberta, Canada)
Posted: Nov 18, 2009 - 07:34
 
 westslope wrote:
DigitalJer
(Edmonton, Alberta, Canada)

 

Hey DigitalJer,  In the spirit of friendly rivalry between neighbouring provinces, I would like to point out to your embarrassment that Edmonton is no longer the MURDER CAPITAL OF CANADA.

Greater Vancouver took that honour earlier this year (and the targeted hand-gun murders continue).


 
Hey, they don't call us Stabmonton for nothing, you know.  Major problem with knives here in the last five years or so.

But yeah...as an ex-Vancouverite, the gang problem there is mounting heavily.  Good luck my friend, keep ur head down.


Stingray
(Cologne)
Posted: Nov 18, 2009 - 07:28
 
SPECIAL!

westslope
(BC coast)
Posted: Aug 25, 2009 - 13:52
 
DigitalJer
(Edmonton, Alberta, Canada)

 

Hey DigitalJer,  In the spirit of friendly rivalry between neighbouring provinces, I would like to point out to your embarrassment that Edmonton is no longer the MURDER CAPITAL OF CANADA.

Greater Vancouver took that honour earlier this year (and the targeted hand-gun murders continue).

We're so proud!  {#Sunny}

 

In passing I would like to thank the American neighbours for supplying most of the illegal hand guns.  Without you we would feel so "left out", so "unimportant", so "insecure".    THANK YOU!




crockydile
(I miss Excelsior!)
Posted: Aug 25, 2009 - 13:50
 
 Darkmatter wrote:

Oh, agreed! This is what the last New Order album should have been like. Luckily, we have Doves to pick up where they left off.

 
I think these folks are much better than New Order, although I did like Power, Corruption and Lies...


Darkmatter
(Back in Ye Olde Sweden)
Posted: Jul 24, 2009 - 10:04
 
 lophrequa wrote:
NewOrderKraftwerk tastiness! nice
 
Oh, agreed! This is what the last New Order album should have been like. Luckily, we have Doves to pick up where they left off.



Mikelo
(UK)
Posted: Jul 15, 2009 - 03:53
 
Anyone notice where the arpeggio comes from?

DigitalJer
(Edmonton, Alberta, Canada)
Posted: Jun 29, 2009 - 15:39
 
 westslope wrote:

Well, as long as there was no gun play in the concert, everything is cool.

 
where is the +8 funny?


Dior
(Sherbrooke, Quebec)
Posted: Jun 23, 2009 - 05:41
 
It's one of the best britpop albums I have ever heard!  Teen music with adult content in perfect balance!
 Pyro wrote:
the more I listen, the more I like....
 



lophrequa
(the very edge of the land)
Posted: Jun 13, 2009 - 08:16
 
NewOrderKraftwerk tastiness! nice

Bocephus
(Boulder, CO)
Posted: May 30, 2009 - 08:37
 
One of the first Doves songs I've heard that I actually like.

westslope
(BC coast)
Posted: May 30, 2009 - 08:33
 
 jim1964 wrote:
They opened their show in Vancouver last night with this song, ...man these guys can play! Interestingly the band requested that all beer be served in plastic cups not the usual glass, they must be used to tough audiences.
 
Well, as long as there was no gun play in the concert, everything is cool.


shewasthenazz
Posted: May 28, 2009 - 20:16
 
Was about to give it a 4, but it just got good. This one is a grower.

cochlear
(Kauai, Hawaii)
Posted: May 28, 2009 - 20:14
 
Yawn.