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fatcatjb
(Sunny Sacramento)
Posted: Jun 17, 2018 16:41
 

I really admire Peter Gabriel but it's time for a major break...at least a few weeks
SmackDaddy
(San Diego)
Posted: Apr 21, 2018 16:17
 

Enough. 4 times a day? 
dyharenas
(Bahía de Cata)
Posted: Nov 29, 2017 12:34
 

Uncle P
bam23
(Berkeley)
Posted: Apr 29, 2017 21:28
 

Last year's Peter Gabriel/Sting concert in San Jose began with this. When this was new, I guess it imprinted on me in the way few pieces ever did. From the first note as I realized that they were starting with this piece, my failure to even see Peter G in concert prior to this time became an even greater mistake.
Lowdown
(victoria british columbia)
Posted: Feb 27, 2017 17:24
 

Secret world live , essential gabriel
On_The_Beach
(The Blue Planet)
Posted: Jan 27, 2017 21:30
 

 semolinapilchard wrote:
Great song, great artist.
 
Yes, and his best album, IMO.
Just before he became googa-famous with "Sledgehammer" and so on.
hayduke2
(Southampton, NY)
Posted: Jan 13, 2017 10:41
 

love this piece of PG's (hints of Philip Glass to it) great music, puts me in a Beckett mode of searching for dire beauty
Image result for samuel beckett
semolinapilchard
(England)
Posted: Dec 20, 2016 10:54
 

Great song, great artist.
Steely_D
(Biscayne Bay)
Posted: Oct 27, 2016 17:39
 


Emwolb
(Joisey)
Posted: Sep 26, 2016 10:15
 

Just a wonderful song....musically, lyrically, emotionally
Steely_D
(Biscayne Bay)
Posted: May 22, 2016 13:42
 

 Jmr1371 wrote:

This song was also incredible live.

 
The great moment of gentle mockery when he sings "...past 'Geronimo's Disco'..." and gives a gentle disco twist of his hips, pointing out the wrongness of such a thing.

This was always a moving song live. Had the pleasure of seeing him do it maybe a half dozen times since the tour when this album was released. 

Oh - and check out the German version. More greatness.
Ydesign
(The FAR WEST UK)
Posted: Feb 16, 2016 23:05
 

saw some great live performances from PG in the early days. 

"Brian Pern"........! (is it only in the uk?) 
kcar
Posted: Jul 19, 2015 23:59
 

 k8ling1114 wrote:


I think you're right. To me, it also felt as if the death paralleled the loss of native American culture.

 
This song always makes me think of the young students I used to teach. We'd often end up around a campfire where they would become the "Scouts and guides making powwow signs." Although I wasn't effective in holding this conversation, I'd try to communicate that our imitation of culture were quite shallow. I still wonder how I could respond (or even if I should) if this happens in the future.
 
Sounds like you had two challenges: trying to explain a culture completely different from modern America's and one that disappeared a long time ago. It's hard enough to capture the essence of your own culture from 50, 100, 150 years ago. The whole flap about the Confederate flag recently made me chuckle, because most Southerners who lived under that flag during the Civil War would be horrified and mystified by today's celebrators of the Lost Cause. This gradual detachment of one generation from the culture and mindset of previous generations happens all the time. Certain events like war, major economic troubles like the Great Depression, or the rise of new technology (the phone, the mass-produced car, TV, the Web, smartphones) accelerate that erosion of connections between one age and the next. 

So how close can we get to the mindset of the past, or another culture in our midst? "San Jacinto" makes you think about the gap between the worlds but it can only fire your imagination to think about the Native American's world. But it's a great song partly because it does fire your imagination and make you think about loss of a way of life that had great value and beauty and power. 

2/17/16 edit: PG explains the origin of the song:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqZhQgihUgk
 gfp wrote:

This song was better live! (Like all the other songs on the Plays Live album, 1983.) Gabriel sounds like he's singing into (or out of) an empty tin can on his old studio stuff.

  

Yes! "Plays Live" was a brilliant album. 

gfp
(Germany)
Posted: Mar 26, 2015 14:56
 

 Jmr1371 wrote:

This song was also incredible live.



 
This song was better live! (Like all the other songs on the Plays Live album, 1983.) Gabriel sounds like he's singing into (or out of) an empty tin can on his old studio stuff.
kaybee
(Lost in the Wilds of Toronto)
Posted: Oct 02, 2014 20:43
 

 shakitten wrote:

I think it has to do with a Native American elder's right of passage into the Shadow World. It always strikes me as so beautiful, this natural embrace of death after a long life, the death of an old person full of courage, dignity and honor.
 
I've personally associated it with the two times I'd experienced a sweat lodge ceremony - among the most moving experiences of my life.  This song never fails to move me to tears and is probably my favourite Peter Gabriel song.
 
Jmr1371
(Nashville TN)
Posted: Oct 02, 2014 12:27
 

This song was also incredible live.


bluematrix
(confluence of mississippi and missouri rivers)
Posted: Oct 02, 2014 12:23
 

 fedtho wrote:

And same here again.
And so very obviously Gabriel's TRUE best album, not the much-hyped 'So', which is just... very good ;-)
 
ditto
malouna
Posted: Sep 01, 2014 7:12
 

love this song for over  20 years. A exciting and mesmerizing song.
fedtho
(Switzerland)
Posted: Sep 01, 2014 7:07
 

 scrubbrush wrote:
 
 lily34 wrote:
Jmr1371 wrote:

This is probably my favorite PG song. So original and powerful. Incredible live as well. Listen to Tony Levine's stick bass. Awesome.

same
same, same Godlike
same, same, same

 
And same here again.
And so very obviously Gabriel's TRUE best album, not the much-hyped 'So', which is just... very good ;-)
hayduke2
(Southampton, NY)
Posted: May 30, 2014 10:31
 

awesome music man    I'm mesmerized by that album photo as well, the staring mask in that blue-yellow acid trip color scheme..wicked