Listening to RJD2 on Radio Paradise

mmm.... rather eclectic. Agreed about Zappa influence is some strange form.

Posted 11 years ago by whomhow [ Reply ]

Channeling The Doors, Zappa, rap, Bjork, whatever the hell. I started listening to the echoes about halfway through and then lost the thread of it. Quite bizarre.

Posted 11 years ago by kingart [ Reply ]

pannaramma wrote:

Is that the almighty Flying Spaghetti Monster on the cover? This melody is from the Black Orpheus soundtrak from back in the 50's.

I've seen that "Spaghetti Monster" reference elsewhere, and it prompted me to look into it more closely...(click here) Granted, Wikipedia isn't the absolute font of all that is good and true, but it's pretty fun sometimes... I once looked up "Cthulu" because I was on the outs with God and thinking I might try some other deity. Cthulu is UGLY. And cranky. So, I guess I'm back to God, who is at least predictable...

Posted 15 years ago by Cynaera [ Reply ]

jlind wrote:

People don't seem to understand how talented you have to be to do this shit, this music isn't some digital hack, this guy is running 4 turntables to do this. RJD2 might be the best DJ alive. This might not be his best work, but its still really good.

Thanks for this info, jlind - I didn't care much for the song - it's eclectic, but I guess I just wasn't in the mood for something this eclectic. I think it's always good for all of us to remember that even if we don't care for a particular song, we shouldn't write it off as a loser - because of what's involved in the creation of the song. All I know is that I couldn't create music if my life depended on it, and anyone who can has my admiration. I'm glad you've provided some insight into how this music was formed. Good to know! *grins*

Posted 15 years ago by Cynaera [ Reply ]

People don't seem to understand how talented you have to be to do this shit, this music isn't some digital hack, this guy is running 4 turntables to do this. RJD2 might be the best DJ alive. This might not be his best work, but its still really good.

Posted 15 years ago by jlind [ Reply ]

This absolutely sucks. I don't need to be reminded of disposable music anymore.

Posted 16 years ago by kindermanltd [ Reply ]

creepy ... but in a good way ...

Posted 16 years ago by Misterfixit [ Reply ]

tony620d wrote:

Geeezz.. wonder whats next?

Where's the next button?

Posted 16 years ago by passsion8 [ Reply ]

I suddenly have the strangest urge to listen to Blue Oyster Cult...oh no, there goes Tokyo. This tune's never done much for me either way...just kinda...there.

Posted 17 years ago by Roverfish [ Reply ]

pyxxel wrote:

Strangely, this totally works for me, and I think it's due to the accentuated and break-rich drum track.

I like it a lot, too. May have to buy the album soon.

Posted 17 years ago by lmic [ Reply ]

UltraNurd wrote:

Heh... I liked the puppy whines fading into this.

Welcome Gracie! When she's old enuf she'll love RP too! PUPPY Emoticon needed!

Posted 17 years ago by tnt_thomas [ Reply ]

yeah, bill can do no wrong. UltraNurd wrote:

Heh... I liked the puppy whines fading into this.

Posted 17 years ago by greg6494 [ Reply ]

Heh... I liked the puppy whines fading into this.

Posted 17 years ago by UltraNurd [ Reply ]

rosedraws wrote:

jarring... not in that fun way.

Wow, the segue from Ray LaMontagne - Empty to this felt like crashing into a wall.

Posted 17 years ago by kazuma [ Reply ]

rosedraws wrote:

jarring... not in that fun way.

At least he's not jar-jarring; he's a much better comedic relief sidekick.

Posted 17 years ago by UltraNurd [ Reply ]

another solid track from RJ... although not one of his best.

Posted 17 years ago by DrGonzo [ Reply ]

Geeezz.. wonder whats next?

Posted 17 years ago by tony620d [ Reply ]

Is that the almighty Flying Spaghetti Monster on the cover? This melody is from the Black Orpheus soundtrak from back in the 50's.

Posted 17 years ago by pannaramma [ Reply ]

kinda weird...

Posted 17 years ago by exciter76 [ Reply ]

Strangely, this totally works for me, and I think it's due to the accentuated and break-rich drum track.

Posted 17 years ago by pyxxel [ Reply ]

RJD2 is one of the best DJ's on the scene today!

Posted 17 years ago by melodious [ Reply ]

this fails miserably.

Posted 17 years ago by ahoylola [ Reply ]

Damn if I don't hear Grand Funk in the background! Large scream, and a suck-suck.Could be from "Into The Sun"...Edit: Its from "inside looking out"

Posted 17 years ago by katzendogs [ Reply ]

TKTuttle wrote:

I loved him in all six of the Star Wars movies.

Can't believe no one's made a similar comment before. Every time I see his name I think about Star Wars!

Posted 17 years ago by Jacksonstat [ Reply ]

I loved him in all six of the Star Wars movies.

Posted 17 years ago by TKTuttle [ Reply ]

His previous album was so much better than this

Posted 17 years ago by matt! [ Reply ]

jarring... not in that fun way.

Posted 17 years ago by rosedraws [ Reply ]

The intro bit reminds me of Odelay

Posted 17 years ago by AphidA [ Reply ]

strange ... six months later and the play list its the same

Now Playing: New Order - Regret RJD2 - Ring Finger Sugarcubes - Coldsweat Radiohead - Optimistic anjelone wrote:

I'm continually impressed with RadioParadise. Thanks for the diversity. ------------------------------------------------- 1:35 pm - New Order - Regret 1:31 pm - RJD2 - Ring Finger 1:28 pm - Sugarcubes - Coldsweat 1:23 pm - Radiohead - Optimistic 1:20 pm - The Byrds - Eight Miles High ------------------------------------------------- Just amazing!

Posted 17 years ago by gbourbon [ Reply ]

strange ... the girl seems to be afraid of singing ... 1 dont understand what she's saying ... spanish ?!?!?

Posted 17 years ago by gbourbon [ Reply ]

Is that another incarnation of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

Posted 18 years ago by Dave_Mack [ Reply ]

Style-wise this is not my usual cuppa...found myself grooving in it though. Rating may be artificially high, but it hit the spot this morning.

Posted 18 years ago by LennytheB [ Reply ]

littleblueriver7 wrote:

Not a fan.

Likewise!

Posted 18 years ago by highwindows [ Reply ]

Not a fan.

Posted 18 years ago by littleblueriver7 [ Reply ]

Yeah, I don't get it either. I would consider this electronica. However, the Hip-Hop culture and the electronica culture do appear to be closely related (e.g. Morcheeba). Also, some of the songs on Dead Ringer are pure rap (which are also the ones I don't like). --Additional note of interest: If you look for RJD2 on iTunes you will find him in the hip-hop/rap area.

Posted 18 years ago by jbmckee [ Reply ]

hcaudill wrote:

Close. Actually it's Luis Bonfa's "Manha de Carnaval", also known as "A Day in the Life of a Fool" in its English translation. It's from the classic film "Black Orpheus," which kicked off the samba craze in the U.S. in the 60s.

Right you are. My mistake.

Posted 18 years ago by WonderLizard [ Reply ]

This grows on me the more I hear it. The discussion implies this is hip-hop? I must be cracked; I thought it was just electronica.

Posted 18 years ago by UltraNurd [ Reply ]

mezzanine wrote:

It doesn't sound to me that you have a clear understanding of what hip hop is. Rap is associated with hip-hop, but all hip hop is not rap. Hip hop is a culture that includes turntablism, urban clothing, graffiti art, rap, urban dancing, etc. RJD2 is part of that culture. Has nothing to do with print.

Thanks much. I, too, may be confused about exactly what constitutes or defines "hip-hop" music. I get the music-versus-culture distinction, have seen the consumer identifiers, and appreciate the needs and goals of the marketers. But reading below I get a hint that hip-hop somehow enjoys at least an association with electronica, if not a real nearness to such music in substance. I've always thought I liked electronica. Some RJD2 and Air stuff comes to mind. And rap, I had thought, was a rather clearly delineated genre; that is, it included "rapping" (street-corner-style talking/shouting by a young, urbanized, and usually horny male) to a simple, heavy beat, which to me seems quite easily identifiable and is far from my concept of electronica. Where am I skewed here?

Posted 18 years ago by lester [ Reply ]

mezzanine wrote:

It doesn't sound to me that you have a clear understanding of what hip hop is. Rap is associated with hip-hop, but all hip hop is not rap. Hip hop is a culture that includes turntablism, urban clothing, graffiti art, rap, urban dancing, etc. RJD2 is part of that culture. Has nothing to do with print.

Well if that's the case, than Hip-Hop should not be a musical genre. A musical genre has to be defined musically, not by clothing or other cultural elements. Sure, many genres are born out of cultural events/climates, but the music itself defines the genre.

Posted 18 years ago by ploafmaster [ Reply ]

I don't know why I rated this "acceptable" originally.

It's really not...

Posted 18 years ago by winter [ Reply ]

rah wrote:

unfortunately, i think you need to be much better versed in the minutia of hip-hop than i am to understand that. the fact that an artist comes from a hip-hop background, or happens to be a DJ, or raps/uses rap tracks, or wears baggies and bling doesn't necessarily mean that every song that artist produces can be classified as hip-hop. there might be elements from hip-hop in this track, i don't think hip-hop when i hear it. regardless what the doyens of hip-hop might have hoped, i think the idea of "hip-hop" has been narrowed and pigeon-holed just like all great commercial music tends to be, and i don't think the phrase is as universally embracing of urban music as it might once have been.

I agree with you, but record stores classify music in some way to get it to their consumers and most people that are interested in purchasing an RJD2 album, that understand the hip hop culture, would go to the hip-hop section to pick it up. At least I would. Just as if someone were to want to pick up an Air album. They'd most likely be found in the electroica section. They're stuff doesn't always necessarily sound like electronica.

Posted 18 years ago by mezzanine [ Reply ]

ploafmaster wrote:

Hmm...I'm not anti hip-hop, but just because print sources and record stores are calling this hip-hop does not make it so... I'd like somebody to defind hip-hop musically apart from electronic music. If the definition includes rapped lyrics, than this track is not hip-hop. I'm willing to accept a definition of hip-hop that is seperate from rap, and I'd like to hear one. I just haven't yet. As a matter of fact...that'll be my next journal entry.

It doesn't sound to me that you have a clear understanding of what hip hop is. Rap is associated with hip-hop, but all hip hop is not rap. Hip hop is a culture that includes turntablism, urban clothing, graffiti art, rap, urban dancing, etc. RJD2 is part of that culture. Has nothing to do with print.

Posted 18 years ago by mezzanine [ Reply ]

finally, some good clean fun

Posted 18 years ago by bmo [ Reply ]

I'm continually impressed with RadioParadise. Thanks for the diversity. ------------------------------------------------- 1:35 pm - New Order - Regret 1:31 pm - RJD2 - Ring Finger 1:28 pm - Sugarcubes - Coldsweat 1:23 pm - Radiohead - Optimistic 1:20 pm - The Byrds - Eight Miles High ------------------------------------------------- Just amazing!

Posted 18 years ago by anjelone [ Reply ]

WonderLizard wrote:

The melody is Antonio Carlos Jobim's "Desafinado". Intriguing, if not completely successful, application.

Close. Actually it's Luis Bonfa's "Manha de Carnaval", also known as "A Day in the Life of a Fool" in its English translation. It's from the classic film "Black Orpheus," which kicked off the samba craze in the U.S. in the 60s.

Posted 18 years ago by hcaudill [ Reply ]

zurcronium wrote:

dont need to read to understand.

:iamwith:

Posted 18 years ago by drekar [ Reply ]

This is sorta like what Beck would do if he had no talent.

Posted 18 years ago by Daveinbawlmer [ Reply ]

Who cares what its category is? Outstanding!!! \:D/

:goodvibes.gif:

Posted 18 years ago by KitKat [ Reply ]

mezzanine wrote:

ummm...yes it is. Every label he's been on has been a hip hop label. He considers himself hip hop. His music sounds like hip hop. He uses hip hop samples in his music. He grew up on hip hop. How is he not hip hop? Sources: ---While Rj soon became the name to drop in hipster circles, he made his bones in the underground, playing a major role in that mid-west power surge better know as Columbus hip hop. ---Aside from the technical side of what he was doing, his track selection included a broad range of instrumental hip hop. ---Rjd2 is in the very enviable position of being the hottest new artist on Def Jux, which is quickly establishing itself as the epicenter of post-millennial hip hop. --- RJD2's music is a collage of cut-and-paste hip-hop that combines disparate. elements to make for soulful, moody portraits of the world.

Hmmm. The first thing that I heard was Twin Peaks (Julie Cruise?). The second thing that I recognized was Mike Oldfield's Piltdown man. Whatever.

Posted 18 years ago by dpjag [ Reply ]

zurcronium wrote:

if you think this is hip-hop music you probably think the polka is rock and roll.

It ISN'T?! Oh, dear. This is indeed distressing.

Posted 18 years ago by WonderLizard [ Reply ]

he's got much better stuff

Posted 18 years ago by th3boon [ Reply ]

Nuance wrote:

This music is a byproduct of the cut & scratch from Hip Hop. Read this to understand: https://www.jam2dis.com/j2dhiphopdef.htm

dont need to read to understand, if you think this is hip-hop music you probably think the polka is rock and roll. Buzzer please and next contestant.

Posted 18 years ago by zurcronium [ Reply ]

Nuance wrote:

This music is a byproduct of the cut & scratch from Hip Hop. Read this to understand: https://www.jam2dis.com/j2dhiphopdef.htm

unfortunately, i think you need to be much better versed in the minutia of hip-hop than i am to understand that. the fact that an artist comes from a hip-hop background, or happens to be a DJ, or raps/uses rap tracks, or wears baggies and bling doesn't necessarily mean that every song that artist produces can be classified as hip-hop. there might be elements from hip-hop in this track, i don't think hip-hop when i hear it. regardless what the doyens of hip-hop might have hoped, i think the idea of "hip-hop" has been narrowed and pigeon-holed just like all great commercial music tends to be, and i don't think the phrase is as universally embracing of urban music as it might once have been.

Posted 18 years ago by rah [ Reply ]

ploafmaster wrote:

Hmm...I'm not anti hip-hop, but just because print sources and record stores are calling this hip-hop does not make it so... I'd like somebody to defind hip-hop musically apart from electronic music. If the definition includes rapped lyrics, than this track is not hip-hop. I'm willing to accept a definition of hip-hop that is seperate from rap, and I'd like to hear one. I just haven't yet. As a matter of fact...that'll be my next journal entry.

This music is a byproduct of the cut & scratch from Hip Hop. Read this to understand: https://www.jam2dis.com/j2dhiphopdef.htm

Posted 18 years ago by Nuance [ Reply ]

mezzanine wrote:

ummm...yes it is.

Hmm...I'm not anti hip-hop, but just because print sources and record stores are calling this hip-hop does not make it so... I'd like somebody to defind hip-hop musically apart from electronic music. If the definition includes rapped lyrics, than this track is not hip-hop. I'm willing to accept a definition of hip-hop that is seperate from rap, and I'd like to hear one. I just haven't yet. As a matter of fact...that'll be my next journal entry.

Posted 18 years ago by ploafmaster [ Reply ]

beelzebubba wrote:

I'm not sure if I like this yet or not....but my big question is: Is there another performer named CKPO?

how 'bout C3P-NO? CfreeP0?

Posted 18 years ago by Nuance [ Reply ]

The melody is Antonio Carlos Jobim's "Desafinado". Intriguing, if not completely successful, application. :propeller.gif:

Posted 18 years ago by WonderLizard [ Reply ]

Total "Art of Noise" ripoff. Not that that's a good thing...

Posted 18 years ago by Shaken_Bake [ Reply ]

Danny_G wrote:

I'll second that.

Posted 18 years ago by AphidA [ Reply ]

I really dig this - and the other tracks I've heard from him. Now I just gotta see if I can actually find this CD locally.

Posted 19 years ago by Misaria [ Reply ]

moomatz wrote:

No, it's not.

ummm...yes it is. Every label he's been on has been a hip hop label. He considers himself hip hop. His music sounds like hip hop. He uses hip hop samples in his music. He grew up on hip hop. How is he not hip hop? Sources: ---While Rj soon became the name to drop in hipster circles, he made his bones in the underground, playing a major role in that mid-west power surge better know as Columbus hip hop. ---Aside from the technical side of what he was doing, his track selection included a broad range of instrumental hip hop. ---Rjd2 is in the very enviable position of being the hottest new artist on Def Jux, which is quickly establishing itself as the epicenter of post-millennial hip hop. --- RJD2's music is a collage of cut-and-paste hip-hop that combines disparate. elements to make for soulful, moody portraits of the world.

Posted 19 years ago by mezzanine [ Reply ]

mezzanine wrote:

...because it's hip hop.

No, it's not.

Posted 19 years ago by moomatz [ Reply ]

I hear Grand Funk Live in here.Suck,suck,suck....Owww! I'd like to hear more.

Posted 19 years ago by katzendogs [ Reply ]

pleseq wrote:

Just got this album and it has some tracks I love and just one I hate. Very danceable. I've yet to figure out why it's in the "hip hop" section of every music store I've seen it in.

...because it's hip hop.

Posted 19 years ago by mezzanine [ Reply ]

pleseq wrote:

Just got this album and it has some tracks I love and just one I hate. Very danceable. I've yet to figure out why it's in the "hip hop" section of every music store I've seen it in.

same reason DJ Shadow is in the HipHop section... they don't know where else to put it. and anyway, if you added a good mc over the top of it, it would be better than about 95% of the "HipHop" out there today. that being said - this stuff's alright, but it can't hold a candle to Shadow, or to the first UNKLE album for that matter.

Posted 19 years ago by Platypus [ Reply ]

stickittotheman wrote:

Now iz de time ohn schprockets ven ve donce!

I'm ess heppy ess a leeettle guuurl!

Posted 19 years ago by trekhead [ Reply ]

Applause for the seque from G. Love & Special Sauce to RJD2

Posted 19 years ago by Johray63 [ Reply ]

Just got this album and it has some tracks I love and just one I hate. Very danceable. I've yet to figure out why it's in the "hip hop" section of every music store I've seen it in.

Posted 19 years ago by pleseq [ Reply ]

I could swear I've heard the female vocal track sampled in a Thievery Corporation song. Wish I could remember which one.

Posted 19 years ago by gntlemanartist [ Reply ]

8)

Posted 19 years ago by R_P [ Reply ]

i'm liking this. very new sound.

Posted 19 years ago by rah [ Reply ]

I'm not sure if I like this yet or not....but my big question is: Is there another performer named CKPO?

Posted 19 years ago by beelzebubba [ Reply ]

Now iz de time ohn schprockets ven ve donce!

Posted 19 years ago by stickittotheman [ Reply ]

I couldn't click away fast enough. I'm with Danny.

Posted 19 years ago by Waldo [ Reply ]