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kurtster

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Posted: Mar 28, 2024 - 5:49am

 Steely_D wrote:
Those blights on our nation need to be closed, period. They’re leeches, further ruining the lives of those struggling with food deserts (big corporations abandon the poor) and low employment (big corporations abandon the poor). None of this is news, nor is it new. 
 

Food deserts ?  You mean like we just recently recovered from ? 

They are coming back for the same reason they happened before.  Crime.

Rampant crime brought to you by the same people who enabled it the last time around, using the same soft on crime policies they are encouraging today.

So yeah, thanks, Joe and all your progressive buddies in your party. 

It is always someone else's fault.  Defund the police and no cash bail are a republican thing, right ?
rgio

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Posted: Mar 28, 2024 - 5:37am

 Lazy8 wrote:

Yeah, shame on them for selling things poor people can afford! Shame on them for employing people selling those goods! If they had fewer choices of what to buy they'd be infinitely better off. It's not like they know what's in their own best interest.

We'll chalk that up to just not knowing any better...


Steely_D

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Posted: Mar 28, 2024 - 3:10am

 Lazy8 wrote:

Yeah, shame on them for selling things poor people can afford! Shame on them for employing people selling those goods! If they had fewer choices of what to buy they'd be infinitely better off. It's not like they know what's in their own best interest.

Let them eat Target.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/19...

Lazy8

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Posted: Mar 27, 2024 - 10:55pm

 Steely_D wrote:
Those blights on our nation need to be closed, period. They’re leeches, further ruining the lives of those struggling with food deserts (big corporations abandon the poor) and low employment (big corporations abandon the poor). None of this is news, nor is it new.

Yeah, shame on them for selling things poor people can afford! Shame on them for employing people selling those goods! If they had fewer choices of what to buy they'd be infinitely better off. It's not like they know what's in their own best interest.

Let them eat Target.
black321

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Posted: Mar 27, 2024 - 3:18pm

 Steely_D wrote:


Those blights on our nation need to be closed, period. They’re leeches, further ruining the lives of those struggling with food deserts (big corporations abandon the poor) and low employment (big corporations abandon the poor). None of this is news, nor is it new. 

Blame Joe? Instead you should be blaming a philosophy that prevents young pregnant women from having an abortion,
that refuses to properly fund public schools and sucks the money to “Christian” (code for white) schools,
refuses to give poor people a tax break while providing them to those same big corporations or millionaires who have forgotten what philanthropy looks like,
that runs in cahoots with petroleum peddlers while the environment suffers,
and that does everything it can to prevent the education of its populace and shout down the experts that get in their way.

Is that Joe? That would be a very very naive take on the matter.


It was a tongue in cheek post, but perhaps the tongue slipped out and started making flippy floppy noises...
Steely_D

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Posted: Mar 27, 2024 - 3:12pm

 black321 wrote:
In a significant departure from its traditional pricing model, Dollar Tree has announced plans to raise prices on select products from $1.25 up to $7.


Those blights on our nation need to be closed, period. They’re leeches, further ruining the lives of those struggling with food deserts (big corporations abandon the poor) and low employment (big corporations abandon the poor). None of this is news, nor is it new. 

Blame Joe? Instead you should be blaming a philosophy that prevents young pregnant women from having an abortion,
that refuses to properly fund public schools and sucks the money to “Christian” (code for white) schools,
refuses to give poor people a tax break while providing them to those same big corporations or millionaires who have forgotten what philanthropy looks like,
that runs in cahoots with petroleum peddlers while the environment suffers,
and that does everything it can to prevent the education of its populace and shout down the experts that get in their way.

Is that Joe? That would be a very very naive take on the matter.
islander

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Posted: Mar 27, 2024 - 3:06pm

 black321 wrote:
In a significant departure from its traditional pricing model, Dollar Tree has announced plans to raise prices on select products from $1.25 up to $7. This decision reflects the retailer's response to mounting cost pressures and supply chain disruptions. - thanks Joe 



A friend of mine took this in Taipei several years ago: 

He noted that the exchange rate was about 35:1 at the time which would be about $8.50
black321

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Posted: Mar 27, 2024 - 2:55pm

In a significant departure from its traditional pricing model, Dollar Tree has announced plans to raise prices on select products from $1.25 up to $7. This decision reflects the retailer's response to mounting cost pressures and supply chain disruptions. - thanks Joe 
rgio

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Posted: Mar 27, 2024 - 12:48pm

 miamizsun wrote:
yeah, and why weren't the bumpers around the pilings bigger
because hindsight

To your point...

How Fenders might have protected against bridge collapse

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 27, 2024 - 7:36am

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Yeah, and it's most recent citation during an inspection was a problem with the powerplant. That smoke gushing out looks like some sort of catastrophic engine casualty.

Possibly the backup generator being overtaxed/insufficient. Appears the pilot did everything by the book, if there's a book for this. Dropped anchor, rudder hard left, send mayday. Bought some time and saved some lives. 

Comments on that WaPo article indicate there was a cop who barricaded one approach until traffic was stopped, then started to drive out to pick up the workers, but the bridge collapsed before he could do that. I haven't found that article though.

kurtster

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Posted: Mar 27, 2024 - 12:31am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

The boat was old and not fully updated. There.  Happy now ? Sheezus.
Sorry, I wasn't having a dig at you or anyone. Just commenting that bad shit frequently happens on boats. Even to the best skippers.
 
No worries, we're good.  Beside conversations here lately, it pales to some of the stuff I've had to deal with over at discogs the past few weeks.  Technical arguments where the nuance and the attitudes here are like playground stuff.  I'm beat up, is all.

But the event triggered a whole boat load of memories. ;)  I sometimes watch a show called Mighty Ships that you may not get over there, but anyway a few months ago they had a show about either the largest or the second largest container ship in the world that made the trip between China through the Suez to Amsterdam and Hamburg IIRC, back and forth.  The crew does not rest for a minute, sheesh.  I think that they dealt with events by the Suez and what would happen if they had to start going around the Cape Of Good Hope if all hell breaks lose.  That was this morning and a couple of hours ago I remembered that I used to have a Merchant Marine card when I turned 21 and was dealing with ore boats on the Great Lakes.  I've been through every inch of one of these.  Then I remembered that a hs classmate from California was on the same boat as my current best friend at the time from here.  This was the early mid 70's about a couple of years before the Edmund Fitzgerald went down.  I might tell more of the story over in the surfing thread so as not to jack this one anymore.

My armchair conclusion is due to some kind of mechanical failure, the rudder got stuck in right turn Clyde mode and if the bridge didn't get in the way it would have sailed in a circle until they regained control.  In open sea, no one would ever hear about it.  You'd have to read the log to find out.

It's been kind of like a youtube day, where one video leads to another and then another.  Amazing the things you forget.  But with this event for a trigger, 50 years later they all came back clear as a bell.

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{#Meditate}

One, two, free, four ...
miamizsun

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Posted: Mar 26, 2024 - 4:24pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Yeah, and it's most recent citation during an inspection was a problem with the powerplant. That smoke gushing out looks like some sort of catastrophic engine casualty.


yeah, and why weren't the bumpers around the pilings bigger
because hindsight
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Mar 26, 2024 - 4:18pm

 miamizsun wrote:


seems the ship lost power before the accident...




Yeah, and it's most recent citation during an inspection was a problem with the powerplant. That smoke gushing out looks like some sort of catastrophic engine casualty.
miamizsun

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Posted: Mar 26, 2024 - 3:58pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

So I was wondering about how the boatshipvesselcraft could even get to the piers. NYTimes coverage talked about the "fenders" around most piers that are for exactly this situation. The SF/Oakland Bay Bridge took a hit several years ago but the fenders did their job.

The Key Bridge has little bollards (my term), not full fenders, too small to stop a modern container ship. Probably good for the big ships of the day. But in this case, the people who saw the thing turn abruptly, it might be because it hit one of these.





seems the ship lost power before the accident...


ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 26, 2024 - 3:05pm

So I was wondering about how the boatshipvesselcraft could even get to the piers. NYTimes coverage talked about the "fenders" around most piers that are for exactly this situation. The SF/Oakland Bay Bridge took a hit several years ago but the fenders did their job.

The Key Bridge has little bollards (my term), not full fenders, too small to stop a modern container ship. Probably good for the big ships of the day. But in this case, the people who saw the thing turn abruptly, it might be because it hit one of these.


ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 26, 2024 - 2:51pm

 kurtster wrote:

Think of the Nimitz Freeway collapse during the earthquake when the World Series was going on.

Could'a been the same thing ...


My thoughts exactly. When the "Cypress Structure" collapsed I knew there were hundreds killed because I had been in 5pm traffic there before and there was never enough room to shift out of maybe second. But nearly everyone had already found a TV to watch the game.
Steely_D

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Posted: Mar 26, 2024 - 12:03pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


Sorry, I wasn't having a dig at you or anyone. Just commenting that bad shit frequently happens on boats. Even to the best skippers.


Even if it’s only supposed to be a three hour tour. 
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Mar 26, 2024 - 11:25am

 kurtster wrote:

The boat was old and not fully updated.

There.  Happy now ?

Sheezus.


Sorry, I wasn't having a dig at you or anyone. Just commenting that bad shit frequently happens on boats. Even to the best skippers.
kurtster

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Posted: Mar 26, 2024 - 11:11am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

The ship was old and not fully updated.  It was grandfathered in to get by a lot of the requirements. Local harbour pilots are SOP worldwide.  Shit still happens even when everything is good.
boats
 
The boat was old and not fully updated.

There.  Happy now ?

Sheezus.
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Mar 26, 2024 - 10:50am

 Steely_D wrote:

My Better Half™ (RN, triage nurse) and I rushed back to Highland where we met/worked once we saw that it had fallen. I helped clean out the ER of things that could get scooted out before the ambulances arrived. And then we waited.
And waited. And they never came. No one had lived.



yikes. 


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