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Posted: Aug 24, 2023 - 6:59pm

Another record, sports fans.

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Posted: Aug 24, 2023 - 12:05pm

G20 poured more than $1tn into fossil fuel subsidies despite Cop26 pledges – report
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Posted: Aug 23, 2023 - 11:21am

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Yeah, I guess because averages over years are showing these increases and extreme events, etc.  His tweet isn't really careless with that conflation of weather and climate, but I have seen a number of much more alarmist/sensationalist articles and headlines which are.  It just seems like something people need to be very conscious of - as I said "devil's advocate".


Maybe a season is the reasonable minimum for climate.

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Posted: Aug 23, 2023 - 11:03am

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Thoughts and prayers for the moisture.

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Posted: Aug 23, 2023 - 10:54am

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The heat dome is weather and he's using one extreme weather phenomenon to make a point about this summer (climate). From your link:
In most places, weather can change from minute-to-minute, hour-to-hour, day-to-day, and season-to-season. Climate, however, is the average of weather over time and space. An easy way to remember the difference is that climate is what you expect, like a very hot summer, and weather is what you get, like a hot day with pop-up thunderstorms.
Enough (short-term) extreme weather events will make the longer-term (climate) more extreme as well since the latter is based on averages over time.


Yeah, I guess because averages over years are showing these increases and extreme events, etc.  His tweet isn't really careless with that conflation of weather and climate, but I have seen a number of much more alarmist/sensationalist articles and headlines which are.  It just seems like something people need to be very conscious of - as I said "devil's advocate".

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Posted: Aug 23, 2023 - 10:31am

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Just to play devil's advocate: I don't necessarily disagree with his findings and theories but isn't he making the mistake that many climate deniers make - conflating weather with climate?  (i.e. "We had a lot of snow this winter, there's no such thing as global warming.") Shouldn't it be "the weather is this summer", not "the climate is this summer"?  I guess it's just semantics.
Weather is what conditions of the atmosphere are over a short period of time, and climate is how the atmosphere "behaves" over relatively long periods of time.

The heat dome is weather and he's using one extreme weather phenomenon to make a point about this summer (climate). From your link:
In most places, weather can change from minute-to-minute, hour-to-hour, day-to-day, and season-to-season. Climate, however, is the average of weather over time and space. An easy way to remember the difference is that climate is what you expect, like a very hot summer, and weather is what you get, like a hot day with pop-up thunderstorms.
Enough (short-term) extreme weather events will make the longer-term (climate) more extreme as well since the latter is based on averages over time.

Edit: He's now in a better position to judge with two-thirds of the summer gone/done.

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Posted: Aug 23, 2023 - 7:35am

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Just to play devil's advocate: I don't necessarily disagree with his findings and theories but isn't he making the mistake that many climate deniers make - conflating weather with climate?  (i.e. "We had a lot of snow this winter, there's no such thing as global warming.") Shouldn't it be "the weather is this summer", not "the climate is this summer"?  I guess it's just semantics.
Weather is what conditions of the atmosphere are over a short period of time, and climate is how the atmosphere "behaves" over relatively long periods of time.
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Posted: Aug 21, 2023 - 9:41am

What climate change...?   Sure, parking will be tough, but the field is ready.

Dodger Stadium has been turned into an island by the post-tropical cyclone.

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Posted: Aug 20, 2023 - 7:32am

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Space lasers

The bizarre CT that just won't go away.
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Posted: Aug 20, 2023 - 12:02am

Space lasers
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Posted: Aug 19, 2023 - 12:01pm

this is fine
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Posted: Aug 18, 2023 - 10:08am

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Cult.



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Posted: Aug 18, 2023 - 8:05am

Cult.
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Posted: Aug 16, 2023 - 10:53pm

Rising Temperatures Are Wreaking Havoc Year-Round
Even small changes in global average temperature are driving environmental and economic consequences.
Nice graphs.
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Posted: Aug 16, 2023 - 11:46am

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