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westslope

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Posted: Jan 27, 2022 - 10:40am

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Not trying to be obtuse here, but... so?

Understandable.  Presumably the bounce from a steep recession will be a good one.

Think of the political implications of this from the perspective of voters who have little understanding of economics or economic policy, and who consistently exaggerate the influence of the President, and government in general.

Example: Sleepy Joe managed to attain a higher rate of economic growth than Marxist-Keynesian Donald J. Trump aka the GREATEST American president ever! 

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Posted: Jan 27, 2022 - 9:06am

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Not trying to be obtuse here, but... so?
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Posted: Jan 27, 2022 - 8:55am

2021 economy boomed at fastest rate in 37 years
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Posted: Feb 1, 2021 - 8:42am



 westslope wrote:
 
I was referring to the tax-cut driven increase in deficit-financed fiscal expenditures during the reign of Trump I.   The exact opposite of what conservative Keynesian business cycle management would call for. But I get the Lenin reference.  

Maybe Americans find themselves between a rock and hard place but frankly, I say screw the bi-partisanship and do what you have to do to get the pandemic under control.  Place the country on an almost war-like footing and then play bi-partisan footsies with the republicans later.   Economics outcomes will not sustainably improve until this threat is under control.  
Borrowing costs are low, interest payments are manageable and the government should exploit that to fully gear up.    

Agreed!
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Posted: Feb 1, 2021 - 8:40am



 miamizsun wrote:
maybe it's the stupid economy

or maybe just the stupid

bet you all never thought about did you?
 
you want me to think now too? sheesh. I'm just here for the chicken.

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Posted: Feb 1, 2021 - 8:36am

maybe it's the stupid economy

or maybe just the stupid

bet you all never thought about did you?
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Posted: Feb 1, 2021 - 8:30am



 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


 westslope wrote:
If I understand correctly the White House proposes transfers to prop up state and municipal governments.  From what I have read, many US states and municipalities are not fiscally equipped to deal with a unexpected emergency like this pandemic.  

I hope Biden sticks to the programme and essentially ignores the Marxist Senators from Trump's Republican Party. 
 

I always thought they were more Leninist than Marxist, but hey ho.
 

I was referring to the tax-cut driven increase in deficit-financed fiscal expenditures during the reign of Trump I.   The exact opposite of what conservative Keynesian business cycle management would call for. But I get the Lenin reference.  

Maybe Americans find themselves between a rock and hard place but frankly, I say screw the bi-partisanship and do what you have to do to get the pandemic under control.  Place the country on an almost war-like footing and then play bi-partisan footsies with the republicans later.   Economic outcomes will not sustainably improve until this threat is under control.  

Borrowing costs are low, interest payments are manageable and the government should exploit that to fully gear up.  


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Posted: Feb 1, 2021 - 8:21am



 westslope wrote:
If I understand correctly the White House proposes transfers to prop up state and municipal governments.  From what I have read, many US states and municipalities are not fiscally equipped to deal with a unexpected emergency like this pandemic.  

I hope Biden sticks to the programme and essentially ignores the Marxist Senators from Trump's Republican Party. 
 

I always thought they were more Leninist than Marxist, but hey ho.
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Posted: Feb 1, 2021 - 8:16am

If I understand correctly the White House proposes transfers to prop up state and municipal governments.  From what I have read, many US states and municipalities are not fiscally equipped to deal with a unexpected emergency like this pandemic.  

I hope Biden sticks to the programme and essentially ignores the Marxist Senators from Trump's Republican Party. 
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Posted: Jan 28, 2021 - 8:38am

Thanks, Donnie!
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Posted: Jan 19, 2021 - 7:25am

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Posted: Dec 26, 2020 - 7:29am

Rent Seeking with Michael Hudson & Pepe Escobar

 
Really about the 21st century's Great Game: China, Russia, and other non-absorbed countries.
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Posted: Dec 8, 2020 - 6:04am

The cost of income inequality
westslope

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Posted: Oct 16, 2020 - 3:18pm



 sirdroseph wrote:

Especially lead.
{#Wink}
 
Yea, that is pretty funny.  

Come on guys; it ain't goin' get that bad! 


                                                       Or will it?  

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Posted: Oct 16, 2020 - 8:50am



 sirdroseph wrote:

Especially lead.
{#Wink}
 That was my thought too...
c.


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Posted: Oct 16, 2020 - 8:49am

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Investors Are Already Treating America Like an Emerging Market - FP
Election chaos, social unrest, and weak institutions make the United States too risky for a developed economy.

To the extent this is true, it all bodes well for precious metals going forward.  
 
Especially lead.{#Wink}
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Posted: Oct 16, 2020 - 7:52am

Investors Are Already Treating America Like an Emerging Market - FP
Election chaos, social unrest, and weak institutions make the United States too risky for a developed economy.

To the extent this is true, it all bodes well for precious metals going forward.  
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Posted: Oct 16, 2020 - 7:50am



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More aid?
Why not work?
The west coast is still dealing with the devastation of wildfires...plenty of work there to clean/repair.
Storm damage in the south.
What city doesnt need a little repair, shine around the edges?
I get the initial aid response to the pandemic, but now?
Put people to work, dont give them a handout they dont really want.

 
I think there's merit there. And precedent - the WPA and CCC, for example. Displaced people need somewhere to live - use existing park facilities, some built by CCC crews, for starters. Pay people to work - clearing storm and fire debris, cleaning flooded but otherwise safe homes, cooking meals for work crews, delivering food/supplies to folks who can't work, the list is endless. Even stuff like setting up a computer and getting people (re)connected.

Here in Austin 'Discount Electronics' has truckloads of lease-return computers of all shapes and sizes. They can't possibly sell all of them, no matter how cheaply they're listed. Donate them (tax write off) and set up information centers where people can get information. For that matter, donate them to individuals for remote working, online school, surfing pron: you know, the essentials.

The 'rona isn't going away anytime soon. Natural disasters are not going to stop. Sure FEMA and whatnot have their place, but we need a larger, and more personal, mobilization.
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Posted: Oct 16, 2020 - 6:44am

More aid?
Why not work?
The west coast is still dealing with the devastation of wildfires...plenty of work there to clean/repair.
Storm damage in the south.
What city doesnt need a little repair, shine around the edges?
I get the initial aid response to the pandemic, but now?
Put people to work, dont give them a handout they dont really want.

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Posted: Oct 15, 2020 - 4:40pm



 rgio wrote:
.....
 
You know when people complain that everything is now politics?

GDP is a financial number.  It doesn't identify fat people, poor people, billionaires, efficiency, medical availability, immigration...it's a number.  I thought it was interesting to see that California is roughly the financial size of the UK.  You don't...OK.  New Jersey having the financial throughput of Switzerland isn't making anyone vote differently...is it?

Next time you walk past a mirror,  ask "am I the type of person pushing people to vote for Trump?"

 

Actually GDP is part of the System of National Accounts.  That place where statisticians do the national book keeping.  GDP is not a financial number.  It is a measure of economic value; it is a flow number; it does not capture national wealth per capita, for example, which in passing is much harder to measure because financial concepts and measures are so important.

Economists got over GDP as an indicator of economic performance a long time ago.  Per capita real wealth is the preferred number in many quarters.   Moreover, much output such as 'home production' is never monetized but is most valuable all the same.   But nobody serious limits themselves to just one indicator.  (Besides, complexity sells....)   

Socio-economic output indicators try to go beyond annual income and capture meaningful wealth, e.g., indicators of health and education.  In that respect, many small European countries with stable populations, i.e., near zero population growth, exhibit outstanding socio-economic outcomes.  

rgio,   I am probably far more conservative on many policies than you are so let's not go there, please.  

I apologize for coming down so hard on you.  Unnecessary.      Probably twigging off my own fears of population growth.  

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