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Posted: Sep 24, 2014 - 7:00pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

It caches 12 hours, but it does not hold in the cache... it attempts to stay in sync with the live playlist, so if you're online and listening, then jump in your car, it continues the stream from your cache. If you go to sleep for 4 hours and turn the music on again, the music will jump ahead 4 hours in the cache, and continue simulating the live stream. After 12 hours have passed, the cache is gone and you need to get online again.

It makes sense to me but seems like a lot of work to implement when some users only want to capture *any* 12 hours of RP so that they have something to listen to.

So anyway if you're loading up your cache as you leave home, then go to work and come home 12 hours later and want to play the cached music, that won't work. 

 
I simply can't get this to work on my iPhone 4 or iPod touch 5,I can't even cache 4 hrs. I've been using ootunes app , a great alternative until the cache issues have been addressed. Ootunes will record radioparadise  save it and then I listen at work the next day. However bill goldsmith said the developer is working on a rewrite, I don't know if he meant the recent fix, or something in the future. I would love to see this fixed. Regardless r.p. Is still the best internet station out there.


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Posted: Sep 24, 2014 - 6:20pm

 closapalta wrote:
I was pretty excited when I heard about this option to listen to RP offline, but every time I cache the full 12 hours available, it simply disappears.  I see the developer posted on this topic about a month ago, I'm wondering if there's been any updates or am I just doing something wrong?

 
It caches 12 hours, but it does not hold in the cache... it attempts to stay in sync with the live playlist, so if you're online and listening, then jump in your car, it continues the stream from your cache. If you go to sleep for 4 hours and turn the music on again, the music will jump ahead 4 hours in the cache, and continue simulating the live stream. After 12 hours have passed, the cache is gone and you need to get online again.

It makes sense to me but seems like a lot of work to implement when some users only want to capture *any* 12 hours of RP so that they have something to listen to.

So anyway if you're loading up your cache as you leave home, then go to work and come home 12 hours later and want to play the cached music, that won't work. 
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Posted: Sep 24, 2014 - 4:46pm

I was pretty excited when I heard about this option to listen to RP offline, but every time I cache the full 12 hours available, it simply disappears.  I see the developer posted on this topic about a month ago, I'm wondering if there's been any updates or am I just doing something wrong?
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Posted: Aug 25, 2014 - 2:48am

 gotallie wrote:

update 4.0.2 (665)

Still not working.



 
There is an app called ootunes, you can record streams of r.p. , I use it all the time on iphone 4 works great. Also works on my iPod touch 5,Great alternative till they address the cache issues.


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Posted: Aug 15, 2014 - 11:51am

 conolan wrote:

However, I now have to report that the iPhone showed 'cache empty, please reconnect' or similar when I came home after 2 hours leaving the app play. This despite a good wifi/adsl connection. But it didn't crash.

 
Our developer is working on a rewrite of the caching code for the iOS app. Should be ready soon. Stay tuned...
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Posted: Aug 15, 2014 - 11:46am

 conolan wrote:
Using 4.02 on iPad 3 and iPhone 4. Both IOS7.
iPad crashes, also seems very confused about whats in the cache. Same as the earlier version.
iPhone 4 works fine, no crashes, glitch-free.

Can I suggest a mod.
Have an option of minimum cache (5-10min) that lightens the load on your server and is to ensure glitch-free in wifi environment? Very tempting to slide amount to several hours despite when not going on the road. 
Also, the 'cancel' option on cache is misleading. Better if it was 'exit'. Cancel implies cancelling the cache option totally. 

Great idea, love to see it fixed. 

 
However, I now have to report that the iPhone showed 'cache empty, please reconnect' or similar when I came home after 2 hours leaving the app play. This despite a good wifi/adsl connection. But it didn't crash.
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Posted: Aug 15, 2014 - 7:53am

Using 4.02 on iPad 3 and iPhone 4. Both IOS7.
iPad crashes, also seems very confused about whats in the cache. Same as the earlier version.
iPhone 4 works fine, no crashes, glitch-free.

Can I suggest a mod.
Have an option of minimum cache (5-10min) that lightens the load on your server and is to ensure glitch-free in wifi environment? Very tempting to slide amount to several hours despite when not going on the road. 
Also, the 'cancel' option on cache is misleading. Better if it was 'exit'. Cancel implies cancelling the cache option totally. 

Great idea, love to see it fixed. 
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Posted: Aug 11, 2014 - 8:50am

update 4.0.2 (665)

Still not working.


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Posted: Aug 6, 2014 - 1:40pm

Any idea when this feature will be fixed?


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Posted: Jul 23, 2014 - 8:50am

I am trilled about this cache idea, unfortunatly it does not work. It is an ordeal every morning trying to download. Then if I manage to download by time I get to my destination it won't play. Great concept but needs some tweaking. 
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 11:39am

 gotallie wrote:
Attempted to play from cache with 445 minutes.  Long delay, whirling wait icon, app crashed.  Upon re-opening, cache is gone.

 
Hi, I'm the developer of the app...
can you please send me the log from the app? Tap (i) then Log, wait a little and then send me the email... if possible in the text part of the email give me the approximate date/time of the problem. I'll try to track it back and I'll make you know what the problem was.

Thank you and sorry for the problem. 
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 11:28am

 gotallie wrote:
Attempted to play from cache with 445 minutes.  Long delay, whirling wait icon, app crashed.  Upon re-opening, cache is gone.

 
Sorry about that.  I'll pass that along to our developer.

I've used the cache feature extensively during our beta test, and my experience with it has been very good.
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 11:26am

 gotallie wrote:
What happened to all of my Tunemarks?!!

 
We are discontinuing the use of Tunemarks.  In the initial release of the new app we had a system in place to migrate Tunemarks to our new system (Favorites — based on song ratings & accessible from our desktop & mobile websites as well as all apps). Unfortunately, accessing the data storage system used by Tunemarks caused crashes for a large percentage of users in the new app, so we had to remove all Tunemarks support.

If possible, we'll add the ability to migrate Tunemarks back into the next release. We understand that while most people who used the app never used Tunemarks, a lot of you had extensive lists that you would like to preserve. We'll try to make that possible.
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 10:52am

What happened to all of my Tunemarks?!!
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 10:41am

Attempted to play from cache with 445 minutes.  Long delay, whirling wait icon, app crashed.  Upon re-opening, cache is gone.
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 8:41am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Wow, I didn't understand that. We'll use this a lot on our vacation then...

 
We're making sure all of the bugs are out of it before we start making noise about it, but yeah, it's a pretty cool new feature.
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 8:34am

 BillG wrote:

No. It should fill immediately (limited, of course, by the speed of your connection).
 
Wow, I didn't understand that. We'll use this a lot on our vacation then...
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 7:25am

 gotallie wrote:
I think the caching function might need another look.  Maybe I don't understand the function but so far in 18+ hrs only 344mins has apparently been cached.  With a cache set for 8 hours at this rate I guess about 25 hrs are needed to fill an 8hr cache.   Is the caching not at least in real time?

 
No. It should fill immediately (limited, of course, by the speed of your connection).  The time on the slider is approximate, and the time on the cache readout is exact, so there will always be a discrepancy — but not that much, I wouldn't think.  I'll check on that.
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 7:11am

I think the caching function might need another look.  Maybe I don't understand the function but so far in 18+ hrs only 344mins has apparently been cached.  With a cache set for 8 hours at this rate I guess about 25 hrs are needed to fill an 8hr cache.   Is the caching not at least in real time?


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