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10,000 Maniacs — Don't Talk
Album: In My Tribe
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Total ratings: 826









Released: 1987
Length: 4:54
Plays (last 30 days): 1
Don't talk, I will listen.
Don't talk, you keep your distance
for I'd rather hear some truth tonight than entertain your lies,
so take you poison silently.
Let me be. Let me close my eyes.

Don't talk, I'll believe it.
Don't talk, listen to me instead,
I know that if you think of it, both long enough and hard
the drink you drown your troubles in is the trouble you're in now.

Talk talk talk about it, if you talk as if you care
but when your talk is over tilt that bottle in the air,
tossing back more than your share.

Don't talk, I can guess it.
Don't talk, well now your restless
and you need somewhere to put the blame for how you feel inside.
You'll look for a close and easy mark and you'll see me as fair game.

Talk talk talk about it, talk as if you care
but when your talk is over tilt that bottle in the air
tossing back more than your share.
You talk talk talk about it, you talk as if you care.
I'm marking every word and can tell this time for sure,
your talk is the finest I have heard.

So don't talk, let me go on dreaming.
How your eyes they glow so fiercely I can tell your inspired
by the name you chose for me. Now what was it? O, never mind it.
We will talk talk talk about this when your head is clear.
I'll discuss this in the morning, but until then you may talk but I won't hear.
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This was my first Maniacs album. Bought way back in the late 80s. Fell in love with Natalie's voice and have loved it ever since.
If they decide to do a Natalie Merchant bio pic in the next few years, they should tab Tatiana Maslany to star in it. I have no idea if her life is interesting enough to warrant one. 
This song gets better with time.  Liked it then, love it now.
I LOVE LOVE THIS SONG!!!! talk talk talk about it!
 1wolfy wrote:
Nice guitar

 
It's so jangly!
What a voice!
Can't. Stop. Dancing.
Sounds like Blondie to me. And that's a compliment
Nice guitar
AWESOME SONG!!! 
One of the songs that ruined my drinking.
Awesome, and I love all the 80s 'New Order'-type sound behind her great voice that I agree was used very effectively in this song...
1987? 
Almost 28 years gone already?  
Dang. Queasy flashback in the time machine. 
 
 slr242 wrote:
This was the band near their apex, as far as I'm concerned. Great stuff. Loved her voice at that point. In my opinion, they should have stayed together, were it possible. Natalie's solo career has been underwhelming.

 
My fave Natalie-vocals song. Loved the drumming and zooming bass and reverb and guitar...She sings with more force and passion here and that helps. The music is really tuned to support her voice. This must have been one of the designated singles for the album... 
 jmsmy wrote:
Great - but listen to all the 80's reverb 

 
It doesn't sound like much more reverb than most tunes - there is a lot of "chorus" effect on those guitars though, which was big in the '80s.  Pretty good tune - much more feeling and range in her voice than her later efforts.
Back when her songs were good listening.
Great - but listen to all the 80's reverb 
 bentonian wrote:
Out of all the things one could say about Natalie Merchant, people don't like her voice? That astounds me. I find it a truly amazing voice, one of the most distinctive and compelling I've ever heard.

And the song is good, too! A lover's lament for a brilliant man gone to drink, his thoughts drowned in a bottle.

Or maybe that's just me... 

 

Love this.... Love Natalie.  Understand too much about drunks speaking Chinese, taking up the room, waving the bottle in the air
 bentonian wrote:
Out of all the things one could say about Natalie Merchant, people don't like her voice? That astounds me. I find it a truly amazing voice, one of the most distinctive and compelling I've ever heard.

And the song is good, too! A lover's lament for a brilliant man gone to drink, his thoughts drowned in a bottle.

Or maybe that's just me... 

 
It's you.
Out of all the things one could say about Natalie Merchant, people don't like her voice? That astounds me. I find it a truly amazing voice, one of the most distinctive and compelling I've ever heard.

And the song is good, too! A lover's lament for a brilliant man gone to drink, his thoughts drowned in a bottle.

Or maybe that's just me... 
i cant believe this womans voice has been grating on my nerves since 1987   {#Frustrated}
Meh.
ugh. stop the madness.

This song is good for the ears...
 
This was the band near their apex, as far as I'm concerned. Great stuff. Loved her voice at that point. In my opinion, they should have stayed together, were it possible. Natalie's solo career has been underwhelming.
 kaybee wrote:
One of their best!
 
Indeed, it's an amazingly powerful song. Surprised by the lack of appreciation. The whole album is a gem.
One of their best!
music = good, voice= not so good, she bugs..sorry

There are all kinds, and I'm the kind who likes Natalie Merchant.     {#Smile}


 calypsus_1 wrote:
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My boobs and I will now gargle through yet another marginally acceptable song . . . 



Natalie Merchant  By Guus Krol
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Natalie Merchant, Paradiso 11-05-2010

This photo was taken on May 11, 2010 in Jordaan, Amsterdam, NH, NL, using a Nikon D3.


{#Drunk}
*bump*
lmic wrote:

This is one of the very best pop songs about alcoholism. Maybe Bill could play it in a set along with "We Used to Vacation," and/or "Inside Job"?

Just a beautiful song with a nice hook.  Makes me smile.
A lot of Natalie on RP these days, sorry to say it's not sounding too good to me.
Self righteous twits.
 Tim_in_N_FL wrote:

...and was a bit less reserved in expressing her angst.  I do miss that...but not her penchant for self-righteousness.  Still, she and Wiley Coyote must share the super genius mantle.  {#Yes}



 
You so funny.  You must crack yourself up all the time.  Yawn!

 Josephine wrote:
'In My Tribe' is my favorite 10K album, and maybe because it was my first intro to them. I'd love to hear 'Painted Desert' on RP, as it's one of my all-time fav songs!! I still have this on cassette somewhere, and it has the 'Peace Train' recording, which was later removed from the album, due to some trouble with publishing rights, I believe.
 
This (and the following other explanations for "Peace Train's" absence) is interesting.  I didn't know that later versions had had it pulled—kind of too bad, musically, as it's a really nice version of the song, though I can certainly understand politically/morally. 

In My Tribe is, as others have said, a gem.  It's stood up remarkably well to all these years. . . .

 More_Cowbell wrote:
She had a good strong voice back then
 
...and was a bit less reserved in expressing her angst.  I do miss that...but not her penchant for self-righteousness.  Still, she and Wiley Coyote must share the super genius mantle.  {#Yes}



 aragon wrote:
Well, I like the whole disk and would enjoy a bunch if I could hear "Gun Shy" on RP. But just playing "Don't Talk" is fine with me. Love it!



Funny thing: My vynil album has a different cover.
 
Not sure about different covers for In My Tribe (maybe somebody else can jump in on that one), and even though the word vinyl isn't seen in print as much these days as it used to be, it's definitely "i before y".  Your spelling of it makes it look like an off-brand cold remedy...


 wilcogirl11 wrote:

I always heard that Natalie had it removed because Cat Stevens converted to Islam. She apparently wasn't happy because of how she believes women are treated in Islam. Maybe this is a myth, though?

 

According to wiki, that is true. However, I remember hearing back in the day that "Peace Train" was put on the album by demand from the record studio executives, despite the fact that the 10,000 Maniacs already had an anti-war song (Gun Shy) on the album. Cat Stevens' religious beliefs may have been a useful excuse to finally get that song off the album.
 sfListener wrote:

I thought it was because of his support of the fatwah against Salman Rushdie.

 
Bingo...correct.

 fredriley wrote:

Whatever happened to 10,000 Maniacs? They were some of the poppiest political agitators around, if I remember, but I've not heard a peep of them for years. I can think of a few blokes to whom the lyrics in this song would apply, all talk and beer and no action. 7 from the Nottingham jury.
 
natalie merchant went solo and got boring..
this was their best effort by far..not a bad song on it.
never gets old.
great songs...

 rtwingo wrote:


She sounds just as good today to my opinion.
 
agreed.
Great song writer too 
 rvontha wrote:
Love them Maniacs.
 
Whatever happened to 10,000 Maniacs? They were some of the poppiest political agitators around, if I remember, but I've not heard a peep of them for years. I can think of a few blokes to whom the lyrics in this song would apply, all talk and beer and no action. 7 from the Nottingham jury.

 More_Cowbell wrote:
She had a good strong voice back then
 

She sounds just as good today to my opinion.
Genius.
She had a good strong voice back then
wilcogirl11 wrote:

I always heard that Natalie had it removed because Cat Stevens converted to Islam. She apparently wasn't happy because of how she believes women are treated in Islam. Maybe this is a myth, though?



I thought it was because of his support of the fatwah against Salman Rushdie.

Josephine wrote:
'In My Tribe' is my favorite 10K album, and maybe because it was my first intro to them. I'd love to hear 'Painted Desert' on RP, as it's one of my all-time fav songs!! I still have this on cassette somewhere, and it has the 'Peace Train' recording, which was later removed from the album, due to some trouble with publishing rights, I believe.


I always heard that Natalie had it removed because Cat Stevens converted to Islam. She apparently wasn't happy because of how she believes women are treated in Islam. Maybe this is a myth, though?

Wow, haven't heard that one in ages! I think that just made my Monday morning. Thanks Bill!
Love them Maniacs.
Don't sing.
I used to bounce for Natalie & crew in Buffalo circa 1984? Man this brings back memories...
Well, I like the whole disk and would enjoy a bunch if I could hear "Gun Shy" on RP. But just playing "Don't Talk" is fine with me. Love it! :cheers: Funny thing: My vynil album has a different cover.
The version in the unplugged album is better (specially the vocals). Still quiet good though.
junebaby65 wrote:
Me too.... :no:
My God, I'm not alone. Total agreement. Nothing against the band and its fans. Just what makes the world go 'round. I can't listen to them.
On_The_Beach wrote:
One of the few artists on RP that I can't stand. With apologies to her fans, NM's voice just annoys the hell out of me.
Me too.... :no:
'In My Tribe' is my favorite 10K album, and maybe because it was my first intro to them. I'd love to hear 'Painted Desert' on RP, as it's one of my all-time fav songs!! I still have this on cassette somewhere, and it has the 'Peace Train' recording, which was later removed from the album, due to some trouble with publishing rights, I believe.
I generally like 10,000 Maniacs but I really am NOT liking this song. Perhaps one of their least creative. Decent usually though.
Yup - I really like this song (and yes, she does do that annoying thing with her voice and let\'s it trail off and downward and off the key at the end of nearly every line)....still - solid 8 for me.
wishlist wrote:
What changed? Because she makes sleepy music it makes this song unlikeable?
Because she (they) made the same bloody thing over and over it made it unlikeable. This tune, however, is not. But that doesn't change the way that NM (today) constitutes one of Dante's rings.
God, I was so into this band and album when it came out. And don't listen to the person below. I also saw them at two other venues in Philly back in the late 80s and they were awesome.
One of the few artists on RP that I can't stand. With apologies to her fans, NM's voice just annoys the hell out of me.
So happy to see a 6.6 for the great Natalie M., especially after the depressing 5.8 for Patti Smith earlier. EDIT: Also this is one of the very best pop songs about alcoholism. Maybe Bill could play it in a set along with "We Used to Vacation," and/or "Inside Job"? EDIT EDIT: I do prefer the slower, moodier version on "MTV Unplugged." Nit pick - this is still a 10 for me.
99 wrote:
Don't drink the haterade
:lol:
I've seen hundreds of live shows. 10,000 Maniacs was the only band I've ever walked out on (a 5 star night at the Mann Music Center (formerly known as the Robin Hood Dell East) in Philadelphia). Every song sounded like the last - Natalie Merchant was just bleeting like a sheep, and there was virtually no change to the rhythm or the melody. Don't drone! Just say no to 10,000 Maniacs!
kazuma wrote:
Really nice track from way back when, before that sheep took over her voicebox.
Baaaaa...
Really nice track from way back when, before that sheep took over her voicebox.
Beautiful song.
This song almost rocks, but Natalie comes through again.
Can't believe this has such a low rating. 6.6, really? What isn't there to like? That was a rhetorical question btw
Ace13211 wrote:
Don't Sing
When this song came on I was wondering how far I was going to have to go back to find the obvious comment. The thing is she she doesn't really sing ,if she took her own advice and didn't drone out the lyrics how would she pay her bills? I don't like her voice but I'd hate to see her starve.
Ace13211 wrote:
Don't Sing
Don't drink the haterade
Don't Sing
noelbarnes wrote:
blah blah blah...solid 3
yeah yeah yeah solid 8
Tireux_De_Roche wrote:
I had/have a HUGE crush on Natalie Merchant. This whole album is perfect.
Ditto on the crush thing and, more importantly(?) on the comment about this album...it is about as close to PERFECT they come. Don't Talk is such a powerful song, lyrically, vocally and musically.
What a great segue from Whither!!! Been there, done that, no thanks ever again!!! This was one of my theme songs during my divorce process.
my ears hearing her sing. I know there is talent there, songs, the words, like another reviewer said, blah, blah. There is much music available, why play so much of 10,000 maniacs and her solo stuff?
Roverfish wrote:
I'd ask her to come back when she got to 'ZZZ Sleep Consultants'... But that's now, and this is then. Back then, this was a likeable, if not excellent, tune from a band filled with potential. Glad no one could see the future. I still liked them then. Not now.
What changed? Because she makes sleepy music it makes this song unlikeable?
I had/have a HUGE crush on Natalie Merchant. This whole album is perfect.
Saw them the last season of Popular Creek in Chicago. World Party opened. Very good show.
Even in my headbanging teen years with a closet full of black t-shirts with Black Sabbath to Iron Maiden, I always loved 10K Maniacs. Still do.
cooshound wrote:
In My Tribe is one of those albums that I'm way too emotionally connected with to render an objective opinion. I remember being a senior in high school, going to Chicago for the weekend and seeing U2's Joshua Tree tour on Friday, and then seeing the Connells and Maniacs the next night at The Metro, never having heard of either bands. Not a bad weekend of music. I do think Our Time In Eden is a solid effort and good album overall.
The Connells would have been the highlight.
blah blah blah...solid 3
This album was the high water mark. With a couple of notable exceptions.
what's she banging on about now?
In My Tribe is one of those albums that I'm way too emotionally connected with to render an objective opinion. I remember being a senior in high school, going to Chicago for the weekend and seeing U2's Joshua Tree tour on Friday, and then seeing the Connells and Maniacs the next night at The Metro, never having heard of either bands. Not a bad weekend of music. I do think Our Time In Eden is a solid effort and good album overall.
stevo_b wrote:
Listen to the lyrics, been there and done that also. Finally left the one doing the drinking.
I have to agree. Listen to the lyrics. This is all about the abuse people suffer at the hands of loved ones afflicted with addictions. Some of the most impressive lines in music like, "You need somewhere to put the blame for how you feel inside. You look for a close and easy mark and you see me as fair game." Brutally honest and poignant.
The Maniacs were/are such a good band. As good as any probably, too bad Ms Merchant lost her appreciation for them.
Filofox wrote:
I just adore Natalie's voice, she could sing the telephone directory to me and I wouldn't care.
I'd ask her to come back when she got to 'ZZZ Sleep Consultants'... But that's now, and this is then. Back then, this was a likeable, if not excellent, tune from a band filled with potential. Glad no one could see the future. I still liked them then. Not now.
beelzebubba wrote:
Yeah, where's that masculine voice of Axel Rose when you need it ?
Hehehe not sure if it was meant to be, but this is funny! ...and sadly, even though I don't care much for Axel's forced sandpaper scratching, I still would prefer it to this song... I really do think there's nothing new, unusual, exceptional or exciting about it. It just bubbles along... naaah. Need something GOOD now!
Wow, Did THAT song take me back to my freshman year of high school when this album came out! Funny thing is- I still knew every word of the song. It WAS Natalie's/10,000 Maniacs' peak.
Filofox wrote:
I just adore Natalie's voice, she could sing the telephone directory to me and I wouldn't care.
You stole my words :)
I just adore Natalie's voice, she could sing the telephone directory to me and I wouldn't care.
Natalie's most impressive talent is her lyric writing. This song is a fine example where she takes on the problem of an alcoholic babbling... She's taken on many other issues. She's also written some of the most uplifting lyrics that I know of...
hobbes wrote:
not a big female singer fan....here is an example, crappy band, annoying voice...boring lyrics...
Yeah, where's that masculine voice of Axel Rose when you need it ?
resonator wrote:
All right, trivia time. Who remembers the name of the first Maniacs album? This song brings back great memories. Saw them on this tour open up for REM, and Stipe came out to sing A Campfire Song.
Me too The wishing chair....but wait, was there an EP before that?
HonkB wrote: "Gotta love Natalie....." lovetractor24 wrote:
Do I have to?
no, you don't, but then i don't have to invite you to our dinner party on valentine's day :<}
AliGator wrote:
Hey, are you my cousin or something? (Kerr is my name!) Nice segue from Unified Theory's "Wither".
Any relation to JIM?
HonkB wrote:
Gotta love Natalie.....
Do I have to?
All right, trivia time. Who remembers the name of the first Maniacs album? This song brings back great memories. Saw them on this tour open up for REM, and Stipe came out to sing A Campfire Song.
kerr wrote:
9
Hey, are you my cousin or something? (Kerr is my name!) Nice segue from Unified Theory's "Wither".
9
HonkB wrote:
Gotta love Natalie.....
Actually, no.
i like it.
Gotta love Natalie.....
Best of the Maniacs....
ladybinnath wrote:
IMHO this song is the best thing she's ever done, though it was quickly downhill from here. By the time of their next CD, Blind Man's Zoo, her pretensions and mannerisms had overtaken her ability to carry a tune. :evil:
I did like Blind Man's Zoo and even Our Time in Eden and Unplugged...Her first couple of solo projects were also good istening, but latley...well...not so much. You're right, IMHO, this is her zenith.
Listen to the lyrics, been there and done that also. Finally left the one doing the drinking.
Originally Posted by marycrichards: I think this era of Natalie Merchant's career was definitely her peak.
IMHO this song is the best thing she's ever done, though it was quickly downhill from here. By the time of their next CD, Blind Man's Zoo, her pretensions and mannerisms had overtaken her ability to carry a tune. :evil:
Originally Posted by marycrichards: I think this era of Natalie Merchant's career was definitely her peak.
In My Tribe was definetly the high water mark for the Maniac and Natalie both. I can barely stomach any of her solo work, except for one or two songs. BTW... I think the unplugged version of this song is much better.
I like this. Don\'t know why. Must be her voice. :)
bo-ring.
mmmmm....Natalieee :hug:
Originally Posted by hobbes: not a big female singer fan....here is an example, crappy band, annoying voice...boring lyrics...
Wow, that is quite a statement, so general, so disheartening. I think this era of Natalie Merchant's career was definitely her peak.
this is a great album. try it with \"the feelies\"- it\'s a great combination.
the Maniacs were great live. Too bad you missed them hobbes.
One of my favs from In My Tribe, but this rip has way too much ambiance. Must have been ripped with the \"Stadium\" setting cranked.
Cool song. I actually like the version off the MTV Unplugged album better. Less jangly and more intimate.