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Talk Talk — I Believe In You
Album: Spirit of Eden
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Released: 1988
Length: 5:54
Plays (last 30 days): 3
Hear it in my spirit
I've seen heroin for myself
On the street so young, laying wasted
Enough, ain't it enough, crippled world
I just can't bring myself to see it starting

Tell me how I fear it
I buy prejudice for my health
Is it worth so much when you taste it?
Enough, there ain't enough hidden hurt
A time to sell yourself, a time for passing

Spirit

How long?

Spirit

Spirit

Spirit

How long?

Spirit

How long?

Spirit
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The backing choir on this track was recorded in my home town's cathedral, where my sister subsequently got married. Now that she's no longer with us, this track always reminds me of her and those times way back when.
 
As far as I'm concerned Talk Talk and Mark Hollis produced some of the finest music that just forces you to stop and listen. This one is a 10 for me.
 eveliko wrote:
One more band whom I was the only one in my whole classroom to consider geniuses in the early eighties and everyone was making fun of me but I knew I was right and it feels soooo sweet today.
 
You know it.  I saw Talk Talk open for Elvis Costello in 80 or 81, in a 1000 seat theater.  Great show.  I sort of don't like that the bands I adored in my youth, now becoming more popular as classics, I still like the exclusivity.
 Where the hell was my head in 1988 when this came out? Thanks again to Bill for turning me on to another great album I somehow missed in my youth.
sehr gute Musik aus meiner Zeit...
great underated band , they still sound great.
One more band whom I was the only one in my whole classroom to consider geniuses in the early eighties and everyone was making fun of me but I knew I was right and it feels soooo sweet today.
Great, emotive voice of Mark Hollis. This album in particular has great staying power over the years.
 johnalexford wrote:
I've now heard this song on RP maybe 3-4 times in the past few months (and trust me -this is NOT a complaint) and it continues to grow on me. Solid choice!

 
I am right there with you!  Thinking about getting the album and might have to find it on vinyl.  This came out when I was a bit too young to appreciate the sonic chill-out it provides.  Keep on "spinning" it BillG!!  Long Live RP!!
LOVING THIS. AGAIN.
Bill, thanks for this much needed "Zen" moment at the beginning of an insane Friday. Love this!!
I've now heard this song on RP maybe 3-4 times in the past few months (and trust me -this is NOT a complaint) and it continues to grow on me. Solid choice!
 Castelfranco wrote:
 westslope wrote:

You can alter your conscience by diving along a coral reef or immersing yourself in another culture and language.

You can alter your conscience by being a 14-year old boy who has his first experience with Blonde Lebanese hashish.

Opiates are a very risky way of altering one's conscience.  So is tobacco.  Alcohol can also be extremely risky. 
 

Alcohol is risky, really? Altering your mind with tobacco? No kidding?

 
Yes, alcohol is risky.   It is the second most deadly and socio-economically destructive popular recreational drug after tobacco.

Alcohol is the violent assault, sexual assault, rape and homicide drug of choice.
As for altering your mind with tobacco, of course.   It makes you dizzy.  Before you collapse into laughter consider what early prophets did to alter their minds, they went into the desert, starved, possibly got sun stroke and then hallucinated for hours or days on end.  
 Noé wrote:
Mes chéris !!!

 
Salut, gras ! Fait plèz' de voir un frenchy dans l'coin. :)
Perfect after Collective Soul's impeccable "Listen." I love how this song dances on the edge of distortion and feedback and transcends!
 Castelfranco wrote:
 westslope wrote:

You can alter your conscience by diving along a coral reef or immersing yourself in another culture and language.

You can alter your conscience by being a 14-year old boy who has his first experience with Blonde Lebanese hashish.

Opiates are a very risky way of altering one's conscience.  So is tobacco.  Alcohol can also be extremely risky. 
 

Alcohol is risky, really? Altering your mind with tobacco? No kidding?

 
I think what he meant was altering your consciousness with alcohol, opiates, tobacco and hashish at the same time is risky. Come on people, be selective. 
 I think you alter your consciousness, not your conscience.

westslope wrote:

You can alter your conscience by diving along a coral reef or immersing yourself in another culture and language.

You can alter your conscience by being a 14-year old boy who has his first experience with Blonde Lebanese hashish.

Opiates are a very risky way of altering one's conscience.  So is tobacco.  Alcohol can also be extremely risky. 

 


 westslope wrote:

You can alter your conscience by diving along a coral reef or immersing yourself in another culture and language.

You can alter your conscience by being a 14-year old boy who has his first experience with Blonde Lebanese hashish.

Opiates are a very risky way of altering one's conscience.  So is tobacco.  Alcohol can also be extremely risky. 
 

Alcohol is risky, really? Altering your mind with tobacco? No kidding?
Mes chéris !!!
 RazzCat wrote:
Interesting read:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/sep/13/talk-talk-mark-hollis
 
Nice find, thanks.

Phill Brown is a little more forthcoming. Brown engineered Spirit of Eden and recalls an "endlessly blacked-out studio, an oil projector in the control room, strobe lighting and five 24-track tape-machines synced together. Twelve hours a day in the dark listening to the same six songs for eight months became pretty intense. There was very little communication with musicians who came in to play. They were led to a studio in darkness and a track would be played down the headphones."  

This track moves me so much it often brings me close to tears. It sends shivers. It is, in my view, a masterpiece.
Interesting read:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/sep/13/talk-talk-mark-hollis
 Tippster wrote:

Who's talking about Opiates?  Some of the greatest music ever written, including the Jazz age (hell, even Classical) was written under the influence of drugs, be it Alcohol, Laudanum, Marijuana, or psychedelics. One of the few traits nearly all cultures globally share is that they find a way to alter their conscience.

 
You can alter your conscience by diving along a coral reef or immersing yourself in another culture and language.

You can alter your conscience by being a 14-year old boy who has his first experience with Blonde Lebanese hashish.

Opiates are a very risky way of altering one's conscience.  So is tobacco.  Alcohol can also be extremely risky. 
 westslope wrote:
I love the CD.   Strongly recommend it.

 
me too!!
One of my favorite records to listen to the old fashioned way....on a turntable!

 

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Could it be classified in post-rock?
This is such a powerful album to sit down and listen moderate to loud straight through.  You will be well rewarded.  Altered consciousness optional! {#Devil_pimp}
 Tippster wrote:

Who's talking about Opiates?  ......

 
Here are the first part of the lyrics pasted:

Hear it in my spirit
I've seen heroin for myself
On the street so young, laying wasted
Enough, ain't it enough, crippled world
I just can't bring myself to see it starting

 
 Tippster wrote:

...  One of the few traits nearly all cultures globally share is that they find a way to alter their conscience.

 
I've observed that this only requires a certain amount of rationalization.
 westslope wrote:
Boiled down to a cliché, the lyrics contain an anti-drug message.  Contrary to the received wisdom, there is an anti-drug message in lots of popular music.  Steven Wilson's material, for example.  

Besides the better music always sounds best when the listener is in a clear unaltered state of mind.  100% straight if you prefer.

Junk is crushing.  Thankfully I never liked opiates. 

 
Who's talking about Opiates?  Some of the greatest music ever written, including the Jazz age (hell, even Classical) was written under the influence of drugs, be it Alcohol, Laudanum, Marijuana, or psychedelics. One of the few traits nearly all cultures globally share is that they find a way to alter their conscience.
Boiled down to a cliché, the lyrics contain an anti-drug message.  Contrary to the received wisdom, there is an anti-drug message in lots of popular music.  Steven Wilson's material, for example.  

Besides the better music always sounds best when the listener is in a clear unaltered state of mind.  100% straight if you prefer.

Junk is crushing.  Thankfully I never liked opiates. 
Well I liked that a lot
I love the CD.   Strongly recommend it.
Great band with a unique sound.
Yes!
Me likey like very very much, more this please!
{#Notworthy} 

A rare 10 for me — tricky subject matter, especially for anyone with a friend or loved one who's been crushed by addiction, but a fantastically beautiful, poignant, even... dare I say... spiritual piece of music.  Superb.
 
 fitmartin wrote:
Unique gentle expression of musical art
Most excellent 
 
Well said.
 fitmartin wrote:
Unique gentle expression of musical art
Most excellent 
 
+1
Timeless perfection, no other band goes so deep!!
Unique gentle expression of musical art
Most excellent 
 westslope wrote:
It listens well while buzzed.  But like a lot of first-rate prog music, to really appreciate all the subtleties, you need a sharp mind.  Listens best at great volume while boringly straight.  
 
Well observed. In my stoner years I thought this track was just sublime and brought me close to tears of joy.

Now, as an ex-stoner, I'd say it is as equally moving. 

One of my desert island tracks. 

 
 coloradojohn wrote:
This certainly continues to spin out waves and loops that tie me up to the times it was first sent out, and sometimes it slants me blue and others more towards the sunny side...truly soulful, impassioned singing, cutting-edge sonic explorations, with amazing pulses of timing...

 
Yes.

It listens well while buzzed.  But like a lot of first-rate prog music, to really appreciate all the subtleties, you need a sharp mind.  Listens best at great volume while boringly straight.  
The gun worked.  Bought the CD.
 westslope wrote:

I stopped.  Turned it up, then turned it up twice more.

Does that say something?



 
The cat had a gun in your ribs. Again. 

cat pointing gun at baby ducks

When you have nothing left to lose, you turn the music up to 11. 
 
 DaidyBoy wrote:
Perfection

 
....... it certainly is
 westslope wrote:

I stopped.  Turned it up, then turned it up twice more.

Does that say something?

 
Time for a hearing aid?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
(Yes, this CD is excellent.)
I'm sure that this would have been great to listen to back in the days when I smoked spliffs like cigarettes - it just feels like the sort of song you'd lie back stoned in a darkened room to enjoy - but it's seriously boring when straight. Perhaps the band themselves were stoned out of their boxes when they wrote it...{#Sleep}
One of the best ever records. Perfect for listening 1000 times in the background, and intensely one piece at a time.
 {#Daisy}
Upgraded. 8 to 9.

Very fitting for the "holiday season" for some reason...
I thought it was Shearwater until I looked....
 jkamm14 wrote:
This is what bands like Porcupine Tree emulate, but will never be able to replicate. 
 
Who needs anyone replicating this brilliant stuff? It already exists. Porcupine Tree is different and brilliant.
 coloradojohn wrote:
This certainly continues to spin out waves and loops that tie me up to the times it was first sent out, and sometimes it slants me blue and others more towards the sunny side...truly soulful, impassioned singing, cutting-edge sonic explorations, with amazing pulses of timing...

 
 Nicely put!
This certainly continues to spin out waves and loops that tie me up to the times it was first sent out, and sometimes it slants me blue and others more towards the sunny side...truly soulful, impassioned singing, cutting-edge sonic explorations, with amazing pulses of timing...
One of the most under rated, yet one of the greatest bands ever!! Bill, thank you! This song and "I don't Believe In You" from The Colour Of Spring are simply brilliant! No other recordings sound better on vinyl with a good sound system! Bill, would love to hear you play "I Don't Believe In You" for your listeners...
Perfection
 jkamm14 wrote:
This is what bands like Porcupine Tree emulate, but will never be able to replicate. 

 
never thought of it that way. but, i see what you mean.
love talk talk.
more talk talk, please.
I SO needed to hear this now. Thank you!
This is what bands like Porcupine Tree emulate, but will never be able to replicate. 
a band responsible for an impregnable wall of music...
solid 12
This album was their swans song ... but by gosh was it excellent then ... and still solid today :)
 agkagk wrote:


Me too.
 
And ditto.
 agkagk wrote:


Me too.
 
Me three! Awesome song.  I bought this album and Color of Spring after hearing cuts here on Radio Paradise. Thanks Bill!
 westslope wrote:

I stopped.  Turned it up, then turned it up twice more.

Does that say something?

 

Me too.
This is one of the albums that makes me thankful for RP.  I was just a bit too young to get this when it came out, but after hearing this song I bought the album.  It's become one of my absolute all-time favorites. 
I love Mark Hollis' voice! This is such a beautiful song too.

P.S. I bought the album - it is lush and wonderful sounding. Thanks Bill!
 chedak wrote:
As always...utterly fantastic!  This music was great then and great now...ahead of their time. 
 
Yes!
 von_Hayek wrote:

Matt Johnson was in talk talk ? {#Stupid}
 
That was The The, happens a lot that people mix them up. Both were great (definitely better than Mister Mister or Duran Duran), but very different.
 Poacher wrote:

Ha! I do this as an occasional treat for me and Mrs Poacher when the time seems right. 

As an added bonus I just found out a good friend of mine is a good friend of Matt Johnson the lead singer. With a bit of luck I will be able to engineer a meet up, but it appears he is as mad as a fish. 
 
Matt Johnson was in talk talk ? {#Stupid}
I will cherish and mourn this band forever.
 aspicer wrote:
I Dare you to put on some headphones or sit in front of a high quality audiophile system and listen to this album straight through and not be BLOWN AWAY?!?!!!!!  Go ahead I dare ya'!  ;-p
 
Ha! I do this as an occasional treat for me and Mrs Poacher when the time seems right. 

As an added bonus I just found out a good friend of mine is a good friend of Matt Johnson the lead singer. With a bit of luck I will be able to engineer a meet up, but it appears he is as mad as a fish. 
Slow motion music.  Plodding comes to mind.
....wow,.....beck,bowie and now THIS.....what a soundtrack for a lazy saturday morning breakfast.....
....thanks,bill,....i believe in YOU.....;)
Epic Album! Loved it when it was released and loved it ever since...10
 aspicer wrote:
I Dare you to put on some headphones or sit in front of a high quality audiophile system and listen to this album straight through and not be BLOWN AWAY?!?!!!!!  Go ahead I dare ya'!  ;-p
 
{#Notworthy}
 yenco wrote:
Without a doubt. This band changed my life for the better. Incredible track.
 
...agreed.......
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talk talk you could play that at my grave
Without a doubt. This band changed my life for the better. Incredible track.
Back in the day the 'Record People' weren't too happy with this effort
after the commercial success of the Talk Talk & Life's What you make it record. 
But the band stuck to their guns & said this is what we're writing & releasing.
Good on them. 

Can't believe anyone remembers these guys. I used to play them on my college radio station show in the eighties. Way to dig up the nugs... 
The people in my trailer park had no idea how GREAT this band was until I began piping Radio Paradise through the manhole covers!
 chedak wrote:
As always...utterly fantastic!  This music was great then and great now...ahead of their time. 
 
agreed wholeheartedly!
As always...utterly fantastic!  This music was great then and great now...ahead of their time. 

I stopped.  Turned it up, then turned it up twice more.

Does that say something?


My thoughts exactly! {#Notworthy}

 
aspicer wrote:
I Dare you to put on some headphones or sit in front of a high quality audiophile system and listen to this album straight through and not be BLOWN AWAY?!?!!!!!  Go ahead I dare ya'!  ;-p
 


Simply wonderful and still sounds great!!!!

Nice and melodic 80's tune!


Pretty darned good!
I Dare you to put on some headphones or sit in front of a high quality audiophile system and listen to this album straight through and not be BLOWN AWAY?!?!!!!!  Go ahead I dare ya'!  ;-p
 BowTieDad wrote:
oh shit! just turned my computter on for som RP and it's this on {#Puke} ok Ok OK I'll find something else to listen to

hum the puke smiley don't show
 
wah!

You'll live.
GREAT!!!!!!!!
This is pretty good but it's no "Life's What You Make It," a 9+ in studio or live version, and a full decade before.
PLEASE PLAY : HAPPINESS IS EASY! The world should Know this song too!
 rolf wrote:
TALK TALK
YES!
if i were a smiley i would show up here only if i were some VERY very very positive one :-)
this one is sooo god for the ears!
There just isn't enough to say about this group...their later albums, though post-pop success, are by far their best. 
 BowTieDad wrote:
oh shit! just turned my computter on for som RP and it's this on {#Puke} ok Ok OK I'll find something else to listen to

hum the puke smiley don't show
 
That's because even the smileys like this song.

 Stingray wrote:
WONDERFUL COVER!

It took me 20 years (more?) to understand
that TALK-TALK are more than a popper or hit-band

Instead they are real great!

With an incredible voice!

What is this VOICE doing today...?

Just blowing the millions??
Anybody know...?

 

It sure is different to see Stingray say something nice about a song. If i understand his sentiment correctly, i think i agree (although that freaks me out a bit) {#Eyes}

I was thinking of this music early today...of course RP plays it. I {#Heartkiss} R& B.

 BeyondZero wrote:
Talk Talk is one of those bands that creates such a powerful atmosphere that it just immerses me completely. I love everything they've done. 9!
  What he said. {#Music}


Oh wow...those haunting chorale-type vocals in the background.....beautiful! {#Notworthy}
Lovely.
And what happened with music like that (nowadays I mean) {#Neutral}

LOVE!!!
Wow...Was not previously familiar with the less "pop" side of Talk Talk. Good stuff here.
 Stingray wrote:
WONDERFUL COVER!

It took me 20 years (more?) to understand
that TALK-TALK are more than a popper or hit-band

Instead they are real great!

With an incredible voice!

What is this VOICE doing today...?

Just blowing the millions??
Anybody know...?
 
Unfortunately, in retirement. It's such a shame! (pardon the pun)
WONDERFUL COVER!

It took me 20 years to understand
that TALK-TALK was more than a one-hit wonder


 BowTieDad wrote:
oh shit! just turned my computter on for som RP and it's this on {#Puke} ok Ok OK I'll find something else to listen to

hum the puke smiley don't show
 

You have posted three negative comments about this song on this page including one puking emoticon and one attempted puking emoticon. Move along please. You have nothing more to say here.

oh shit! just turned my computter on for som RP and it's this on {#Puke} ok Ok OK I'll find something else to listen to

hum the puke smiley don't show


Sends shivers. . . every time. A rare 10 in my book and quite possibly one of my desert island disks. Sung from the heart. 

 Dave_Mack wrote:
I think I heard some muskrats making love in there.  But I still like this.
 
You make me laugh! {#Smile}
An album I return to again and again; just awesome.
Gotta be a 10...these series of Talk Talk records changed the way I thought of composition and dynamics. Amazing.
On their previous album they have a song called "I Don't Believe in You" Change of heart, maybe {#Think}

...just beautiful, the whole album...
I wish Marc Hollis would return....
White bird must fly or she will die
Love this!!!
Don't think I've ever heard this; but I really like it!
I think I heard some muskrats making love in there.  But I still like this.
I really liked this song and had forgotten about this band.  I went over to Amazon and ordered this and their very best.
"Laughing Stock" is one of the great, impressionist rock albums...don't know how else to say it.  Truly amazing...