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Syntax — Pride
Album: Meccano Mind
Avg rating:
7.5

Your rating:
Total ratings: 1984









Released: 2004
Length: 5:37
Plays (last 30 days): 2
its made up of lonely moments
there was always a moment there when i knew
you always gave instalments
always knew u concentrated and grew

and i believe in reinvention
do you believe that life is holding the clue
take away all the lonely moments
give me full communication with you

your smile shine a little light, alright
dont hide, shine a little light
give up on your pride

do you believe in reinvention
do you believe thar life is holding the clue
any way to face the silence
any way to face the pain that kills you

your smile shine a little light, alright
dont hide, shine a little light
give up on your pride

give up on your pride, the moment's gone
give up on your smile, life is long
so i seen a bad dream, that you were gone
i got bitten on the soul, my blood will run

give up on your pride, the moment's gone
give up on your smile, life is long
so i seen i bad dream, you were gone
you're bitter and cold, my blood will run
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It's been about a year now since this song entered my consciousness...and a welcome inclusion it is!  Being a man of few (spoken) words, I was able to use this 5:37 track to speak volumes to my loved ones during a particularly low time...and it shined for sure!  10 rated and Long Live RP!!
 david16 wrote:
2nd best song on RP
 

That begs the obvious question - which is THE best song on RP?
2nd best song on RP.
2nd best song on RP
 Dazzerb wrote:
sounds like INXS.

  I second that opinion.

 SquiddlyDiddly wrote:

Ha ha! For balance. . . I LOVE this song and it needs much more playtime. {#Jump}

 
So right you r ....let's bounce together then {#Jump}
Such a great album
Bought the album hearing this song on RP a couple of times.  It was a good move.
Yep... Simple Minds...
Again Radio paradise is just fantastic in bringing us somewhere !
"Do a little dance, make a little love, get down tonight."
{#Angel}{#Angel}{#Angel}
Sounds like Syntax to me.{#Hug}
 rlr511 wrote:
tired of this song.  needs MUCH less play time{#Beat}
 
Ha ha! For balance. . . I LOVE this song and it needs much more playtime. {#Jump}
tired of this song.  needs MUCH less play time{#Beat}
From the varoius comments over the years this sounds like... Simple Minds, U2, KC and the Sunshine band and INXS among others.

That's fine in my book so a solid 8 from me!
Good, but secondarily - reminds me Simple Minds starting.
Starts great... then quickly becomes boring.
Too bad.
 yofitofu wrote:
This is a GREAT song by a band I've never heard of. Excellent. Thanks Bill for introducing me to so much great new music!

 
Just ONE of Bills superpowers
{#Bananajam}{#Dancingbanana_2}{#Bananapiano}{#Dancingbanana}{#Bananasplit}speakers cranked 
Most excellent song. But so is every cut on this album, which is definitely worth buying. Meccano mind was their only album, sadly, but Fluke is also worth a listen.
 dwhayslett wrote:
So this sounds like both U2 and KC and the Sunshine Band?  My mind just boggled.

 
My thoughts exactly!  Well not so much "sounds like" but sends one's memory back to both thinking: "cover?"
This is a GREAT song by a band I've never heard of. Excellent. Thanks Bill for introducing me to so much great new music!
do I hear Collective Soul + Billy Idol?!
Sounds like a slight rip off of a famous Kc & the sunshine tune to me? 
Meh!
great set so far Bill
 Dazzerb wrote:
sounds like INXS.

 



Alabama 3
sounds like INXS.
I promise, as soon as I land my next gig, I am donating MUCHO to RP...watch me {#Clap}{#Bananajam}{#Hearteyes}
 dwhayslett wrote:
So this sounds like both U2 and KC and the Sunshine Band?  My mind just boggled.

 
Absolutely.  Gotta love it.
 1wolfy wrote:
SO agree with you...great track..gets me motivated!

 


LOVE LOVE LOVE this track.  Thank you for keeping it rockin' every day RP!!!!!!!
 
Meh, not gonna give up on those, Syntax, not gonna take your advice.
Dammmmm!!!!
New Simple Minds???
 {#Music} outstanding CD  nikki54 wrote:
never fails to disappoint regardless of what I am doing at the time{#Bananajam}

 


never fails to disappoint regardless of what I am doing at the time{#Bananajam}
 dwhayslett wrote:
So this sounds like both U2 and KC and the Sunshine Band?  My mind just boggled.

 

U2/KC. 

A thought so profound I cannot even get to the depths or height of such a concept. Even having life-cycled through both generations. Good job.
So this sounds like both U2 and KC and the Sunshine Band?  My mind just boggled.
It's kinda cool but veering a tad close to bono and his chums for my liking. 
So unexpected @ 1:05am on September 11, 2015! Just about to go to bed and one of my favorite songs appears. Thanks Bill. Random thought but relevant to the date....If only those who sanctioned the attack on the WTC would have given up on their pride and left well enough alone. We don't know who you are (were), but have our suspicions.
 wgsu_1978 wrote:
"Do a little dance, make a little love ... "

I see someone caught this before me. How freaking obvious can you get? 
 
No kidding.
 coy wrote:
these lyrics are what is called 'satsang' in hindi
it means company of truth
 
'don't hide
shine a little light
give up on your pride'

 
 

Thank you coy!

love this song
"Do a little dance, make a little love ... "

I see someone caught this before me. How freaking obvious can you get? 
I love the way this song builds. Gets my pulse going every time!
Thought I heard Everlast singing...
Very groovy! Gets my sway on
Thanks RP one more time for expanding my library of music{#Bananapiano}
'do a little dance, make a little love, get down tonight'
 Extreme343gs wrote:
Songs like this is the reason I listen to RP. 

It makes me drop whatever I'm doing and state "what the hell is playing? And why the fuck haven't I heard this before?" 
 
Ya. Same sentiment here.
Really diggin this..
great band name, too 
 yofitofu wrote:
Spectacular song. Why don't we know more about this group? They have extraordinary talents and a great sound.
 
Half of the talent of Syntax is from a band called Fluke who have a very similar sound. Fluke have a large and amazingly good back catalogue. . . here

I
f you like this track then I guarantee you will not be disappointed. 
Talented band.  Good stuff and good album.
 rdo wrote:

No hay problemo.  I would never suggest dubbing Almodovar, who I love.  I have seen all his movies.  It would not make sense to dub him really.  Let me elaborate.  I highly recommend Michael Haneke, the Austrian director.  I've seen all his movies except one, Funny Games, which has two versions, both written and directed by him.  The same script in fact, but one version he made in English, which I saw, but I have not seen the other version. A true masterpiece in my humble opinion.  My point was that if I have a choice, I prefer to watch in my own language without subtitles.  I don't like dubbing.  

 
Funny Games is horrifying... isn't it? I started the foreign language version and ended up fast forwarding through the last 2/3 because it just got too sadistic
 yofitofu wrote:
Spectacular song. Why don't we know more about this group? They have extraordinary talents and a great sound.

 

Could not have said it better myself.
 
 kingart wrote:

I somewhat disagree with your disagreement. I'd rather read subtitles. It's distracting to see the mouth speaking French, German or something else, but hear the language of English. It's watching dialogue out of sync with the lip movement. Part of the context of a foreign film in its original language is the nuance and inflection of the words. The German of Das Boot dubbed in English? Absolutely nein. The lovely French of Quatre Cent Coups or the Japanese of Rashomon washed out by a voice actor reading a script? No way. The rapid fire Spanish of Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown lost in translation? No, gracias. As for the visuals of a film being the most important thing, yes, for the most part. But context and subtext reign and in some movies that is not necessarily more conveyed by action than by what people say to each other and how they say it in the original, even if the subtitles abridge the specific words.  The enjoyment is not hindered but often enhanced by just hearing the language. 

 
No hay problemo.  I would never suggest dubbing Almodovar, who I love.  I have seen all his movies.  It would not make sense to dub him really.  Let me elaborate.  I highly recommend Michael Haneke, the Austrian director.  I've seen all his movies except one, Funny Games, which has two versions, both written and directed by him.  The same script in fact, but one version he made in English, which I saw, but I have not seen the other version. A true masterpiece in my humble opinion.  My point was that if I have a choice, I prefer to watch in my own language without subtitles.  I don't like dubbing.  
Pleqse play something that I can boogie too please!
GREAT!
Normally i dont mind, but this cover art is great! Nice song btw.
 Extreme343gs wrote:
Songs like this is the reason I listen to RP. 

It makes me drop whatever I'm doing and state "what the hell is playing? And why the fuck haven't I heard this before?" 
 
+1
 rdo wrote:

I have a few objections to this.  I am a film buff, so I am not one of those illiterate people you cite.   When you read subtitles in any film, you are really reading watered down text meant for ease in reading, and to allow the viewer to keep up with the film and still watch it.  I generally disagree with you here.  Watching text is not the same as watching a movie, and we lose too much by doing this.   It's better than not watching the film at all, but there is nothing wrong with wanting to see the actors' expressions while speaking, among other aspects of the viewing experience.   This is often much more important than the dialogue.  The visuals of a film are the really important thing.  This is hindered when reading subtitles.

 
I somewhat disagree with your disagreement. I'd rather read subtitles. It's distracting to see the mouth speaking French, German or something else, but hear the language of English. It's watching dialogue out of sync with the lip movement. Part of the context of a foreign film in its original language is the nuance and inflection of the words. The German of Das Boot dubbed in English? Absolutely nein. The lovely French of Quatre Cent Coups or the Japanese of Rashomon washed out by a voice actor reading a script? No way. The rapid fire Spanish of Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown lost in translation? No, gracias. As for the visuals of a film being the most important thing, yes, for the most part. But context and subtext reign and in some movies that is not necessarily more conveyed by action than by what people say to each other and how they say it in the original, even if the subtitles abridge the specific words.  The enjoyment is not hindered but often enhanced by just hearing the language. 
Songs like this is the reason I listen to RP. 

It makes me drop whatever I'm doing and state "what the hell is playing? And why the fuck haven't I heard this before?" 
This is Jerry Harrison singing, isn't he?!
Spectacular song. Why don't we know more about this group? They have extraordinary talents and a great sound.
Love the guitar intro to this interesting song.  Vague nod to KR and Gimme Shelter.
Scrolling down I see lots of listeners heard one musical reference or another.
 colinkoolfm wrote:
Reminds me of the mid 80s{#Sunny}
 

Sounds like he's channeling the late, great Michael Hutchence.  
My FavoriteRadioStation.  ♥
 jimys wrote:
 I just did the same thing.

Andy_B wrote:

It gets better and better every time I hear it!  Bumping it from 8 to 9.



 



 
Me three. 
 
A3 is not a bad (rock and ) roll model.
Just superb.
yuck x 10
 suesblues wrote:
reminds me of the Soprano themesong 'woke up this morning' - I love that driving bass - R.I.P James Gandolfini by the way 

 
Yup, I hear A3 (Alabama 3) working its way through this song.
bumpin this an 8...I always look forward to this in RP rotation. Love the background vocals too!
Good stuff... Thanks to RP I picked this one up from cdnow and the album is on the iPod in heavy rotation.
Reminds me of the mid 80s{#Sunny}
And me!  Great test of my new SONOS Sub added to my SONOS 3s played loud....  Boy that was good.  Thank you!  {#Drummer}  {#Bananajam}
 I just did the same thing.

Andy_B wrote:

It gets better and better every time I hear it!  Bumping it from 8 to 9.



 


It gets better and better every time I hear it!  Bumping it from 8 to 9.


Laut hören ! Ganz laut!!!!!!!
8 > 9
for reinvention.
I run to this song.     My PB mile pace is with this. :)
First time I've heard this song.  The opening made me stop what I'm doing and just listen.  Nice suspenseful build of energy and tempo in the middle.  I also get the Soprano-esque vibe from the baseline when it kicks in.  Nice vocals at the end.  I like it.  Ok, now back to work.
New band for me and I quite like them. Thanks again RP!
Oh mon dieu, la musique d'Alice Nevers le juge est une femme sur Radio Paradise :D
 easmann wrote:

"...better than not watching the film at all..."

Yep. If they give you subtitles you miss some of the facial expressions but preserve the emotion in the actors' vocalizations. If they dub English over the native tongue you preserve the facial expressions but the inevitable mismatch between the visual and the aural can make a great performance seem cheesy.

And then sometimes reading the subtitles helps conceal production or performance flaws.

Of those trade-offs I'll usually take the subtitles, if I have choice...  

 

Thank you.  It is rare and cause for celebration indeed when anyone here agrees with me.  {#High-five}  {#Bounce}


(please don't read any other posts by me {#Stop}, cuz you will probably not agree ever again! {#Lol})  
Superb ending to my sunny Friday afternoon.  Have a lovely weekend, folks.  Thanks again to RP xx
reminds me of the Soprano themesong 'woke up this morning' - I love that driving bass - R.I.P James Gandolfini by the way 

Sounds Eddie Vedderish.


 cathiedee1 wrote:
Love Love Love this entire CD..Read somewhere they are back in the studio.{#Bananajam}{#Bananapiano}{#Bananasplit}{#Dance}{#Music}

 

I hope so! I bought this CD and there is only one song that doesn't create interest for me. Bought it because of RP
{#Dancingbanana}{#Bananajumprope}{#Bananapiano}{#Bananajam}{#Dancingbanana_2}
i'm hypnotized!
 coy wrote:
these lyrics are what is called 'satsang' in hindi
it means company of truth
 
'don't hide
shine a little light
give up on your pride'

 
 
My parents consider a satsang a gathering of people to discuss religion and philosophy... Though people mainly come to eat food, gossip about each other and create drama...

Funny to pontificate the meanings of words... 

edit: After seeing the discussion on foreign films and subtitles below, I think the most important thing to understand is interpretation, and how nothing can be truly translated... Also I love reading good subtitles, it depends on the person's skill level and the accuracy to which the subtitles purvey emotion.
Love Love Love this entire CD..Read somewhere they are back in the studio.{#Bananajam}{#Bananapiano}{#Bananasplit}{#Dance}{#Music}
Those smokin' background vocals are really what's putting this song in overdrive, especially at the end. Awesome!
 coolpeople_rule wrote:


Pride...the biggest downfall of humanity...it's a "no-brainer"...loving yourself is just emptiness.

Satan fell because of it and he was the the most beautiful angel of them all  ;) 
  
....and did he win that title in the swimsuit competition?


 Tippster wrote:

Depends on what you're being proud about, no?
 

Pride...the biggest downfall of humanity...it's a "no-brainer"...loving yourself is complete emptiness.

Satan fell because of it and he was the the most beautiful angel of them all  ;) 

This song is soooo good for the external auditory meatus...
 testpilot wrote:
shalalala-crap
only a weasel would ask you to "give up on your pride"
 
Depends on what you're being proud about, no?
shalalala-crap
only a weasel would ask you to "give up on your pride"
{#Bananajumprope}{#Bananapiano}Groovy tune,hmmmmm
Absolutely awesome song.
Nothing special - rather monotonous in fact {#Yawn}
these lyrics are what is called 'satsang' in hindi
it means company of truth
 
'don't hide
shine a little light
give up on your pride'

 
  sici wrote:


Your story makes me really sad too. That dad you cited is Homer Simpson or Peter Griffin as a real live human being.  What a dolt. But sadly, he represents the majority of people who find would rather see a good explosion or unrealistic special effect than something that makes you actually think, or is a beautiful work of art.

It's one of the reasons that I don't watch the grammy's, emmy's, oscar's, etc  It's too painful to see how much of the really good stuff doesn't even get nominated or when it does get nominated, gets pushed aside when the award goes to something far less deserving.
 
meloman wrote:

I agree with both of you. As someone who writes film subtitles for a living, I find the overwhelming provinciality and ignorance in the USA to be
a very sad situation. Thank goodness for me there's the rest of the world.
 
...it´s not even better in the rest of the world....
 Byronape wrote:

Why did we need an American version of Dragon Tattoo?  Because most people here are too lazy (or too illiterate) to read sub-titles.  One of the reasons I stopped going to our local video rental joint was because of an overheard conversation.  Pan's Labyrinth had just come out on DVD and a 12 or 13 year old kid wanted to rent it.  Their dad said no, and then followed it up with "do you really want to read a movie?"  It made me sad.  Some of the best movies I've ever seen have not been in English.  Some of them have enriched my life a little, as only the best movies do, and really formed and deepened my tastes.

I think a lot of it is related to nothing short of $$.  A fantastic movie filled with fascinating characters and an engaging story does not have the attraction as shit getting blown up or naked women have for most people.  Sure, I enjoy nudity and explosions as much as the next guy, but I'd really like some kind of engaging plot to go with it.  Otherwise I'd watch either Mythbusters or porn.
 
I have a few objections to this.  I am a film buff, so I am not one of those illiterate people you cite.   When you read subtitles in any film, you are really reading watered down text meant for ease in reading, and to allow the viewer to keep up with the film and still watch it.  I generally disagree with you here.  Watching text is not the same as watching a movie, and we lose too much by doing this.   It's better than not watching the film at all, but there is nothing wrong with wanting to see the actors' expressions while speaking, among other aspects of the viewing experience.   This is often much more important than the dialogue.  The visuals of a film are the really important thing.  This is hindered when reading subtitles.
 sici wrote:


Your story makes me really sad too. That dad you cited is Homer Simpson or Peter Griffin as a real live human being.  What a dolt. But sadly, he represents the majority of people who find would rather see a good explosion or unrealistic special effect than something that makes you actually think, or is a beautiful work of art.

It's one of the reasons that I don't watch the grammy's, emmy's, oscar's, etc  It's too painful to see how much of the really good stuff doesn't even get nominated or when it does get nominated, gets pushed aside when the award goes to something far less deserving.
 
I agree with both of you. As someone who writes film subtitles for a living, I find the overwhelming provinciality and ignorance in the USA to be
a very sad situation. Thank goodness for me there's the rest of the world.
 Byronape wrote:
Why did we need an American version of Dragon Tattoo?  Because most people here are too lazy (or too illiterate) to read sub-titles.  One of the reasons I stopped going to our local video rental joint was because of an overheard conversation.  Pan's Labyrinth had just come out on DVD and a 12 or 13 year old kid wanted to rent it.  Their dad said no, and then followed it up with "do you really want to read a movie?"  It made me sad.
 

Your story makes me really sad too. That dad you cited is Homer Simpson or Peter Griffin as a real live human being.  What a dolt. But sadly, he represents the majority of people who find would rather see a good explosion or unrealistic special effect than something that makes you actually think, or is a beautiful work of art.

It's one of the reasons that I don't watch the grammy's, emmy's, oscar's, etc  It's too painful to see how much of the really good stuff doesn't even get nominated or when it does get nominated, gets pushed aside when the award goes to something far less deserving.


 (former member) wrote:

Miss you so much, Ann...

rest in peace... 
 
Wherefore art thou?
richlister wrote:
Sounds like the lyrics from KC and The Sunshine Band's: Do a little dance, make a little love, get down tonight.

That's what's in my sweed anyway.
 
Thanks, my brain was gonna explode trying to find that song

Syntax Pride Lyrics

Songwriters: TOURNIER, MICHAEL JAMES / BURTON, JANET WISNER
 
It's made up of lonely moments 
There was always a moment there when I knew. 
You always gave installments, 
Always knew you concentrated and grew. 

And I believe in reinvention, 
Do you believe that life is holding the clue? 
Take away all the lonely moments, 
Give me full communication with you. 

Your smile, shine a little light, alright? 
Don't hide, shine a little light, 
Give up on your pride. 

Do you believe in reinvention, 
Do you believe that life is holding the clue? 
Any way to face the silence, 
Any way to face the pain that kills you. 

Your smile, shine a little light, alright? 
Don't hide, shine a little light, 
Give up on your pride. 

Give up on your pride, the moment's gone; 
Give up on your smile, life is long. 
So, I seen a bad dream, that you were gone: 
I got bitten on the soul, my blood will run. 

Give up on your pride, the moment's gone; 
Give up on your smile, life is long. 
So I seen a bad dream, you were gone: 
You're bitter and cold, my blood will run.
 
Pride lyrics © Warner/Chappell Music, Inc.

LOVING this more each time. thanks RP!
 Cynaera wrote:

Oooo - good catch!  I liketh, too - more every time I hear it. If I go on another road-trip, this will HAVE to be included in my music.

 
Miss you so much, Ann...

rest in peace... 
 kcar wrote:

Agreed...too bad though, isn't it? You could point to to a slew of other TV shows and movies as evidence. Can someone tell me why we needed an American version of "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo"? I loved the Swedish movies although my parents tell that the books were far superior. 

Even though there's a strong pressure for the mediocre/lowest common denominator in American mainstream culture, there's a great deal of creativity and originality here. Not sure why we can't apply that to adaptations of foreign successes.  
 
Why did we need an American version of Dragon Tattoo?  Because most people here are too lazy (or too illiterate) to read sub-titles.  One of the reasons I stopped going to our local video rental joint was because of an overheard conversation.  Pan's Labyrinth had just come out on DVD and a 12 or 13 year old kid wanted to rent it.  Their dad said no, and then followed it up with "do you really want to read a movie?"  It made me sad.  Some of the best movies I've ever seen have not been in English.  Some of them have enriched my life a little, as only the best movies do, and really formed and deepened my tastes.

I think a lot of it is related to nothing short of $$.  A fantastic movie filled with fascinating characters and an engaging story does not have the attraction as shit getting blown up or naked women have for most people.  Sure, I enjoy nudity and explosions as much as the next guy, but I'd really like some kind of engaging plot to go with it.  Otherwise I'd watch either Mythbusters or porn.
Sounds like the lyrics from KC and The Sunshine Band's: Do a little dance, make a little love, get down tonight.

That's what's in my sweed anyway.
 Byronape wrote:

I love this comment.  As an American, I have to say we have a bad habit of ruining a lot of great things.  The American versions of Top Gear and Being Human really illustrate my point.
 
Agreed...too bad though, isn't it? You could point to to a slew of other TV shows and movies as evidence. Can someone tell me why we needed an American version of "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo"? I loved the Swedish movies although my parents tell that the books were far superior. 

Even though there's a strong pressure for the mediocre/lowest common denominator in American mainstream culture, there's a great deal of creativity and originality here. Not sure why we can't apply that to adaptations of foreign successes.  
I concur...this is a very nice CD end to end. 

aspicer wrote:
I got the CD a while back and it's very good overall!  "....if you have the means, I highly recommend you pick it up!"  (Name that movie character?!)
 


 kcar wrote:
 
Yeah...a bit. An American version of the band, perhaps. Catchy but a bit bland and not deeply memorable. Still fun, though.
 
I love this comment.  As an American, I have to say we have a bad habit of ruining a lot of great things.  The American versions of Top Gear and Being Human really illustrate my point.
oh. this is good.

jim1964 wrote:


It reminds me of the Soprano's theme song.
 
{#Yes} - they were first (and better I may add).
 oldhippiechick wrote:
INXS-like?
  
Yeah...a bit. An American version of the band, perhaps. Catchy but a bit bland and not deeply memorable. Still fun, though.